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Installfest
by Gun Caundle 09 May '04

09 May '04

Thanx to all those that organised the Installfest. > It was very successful for me and the help I got is very much > appreciated. As a bonus, it gave me a buzz watching these guys > zooming around linux files making changes. Their skill and knowledge > level blew me away. > > Cheers > Gun Caundle

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Installfest roundup
by Craig Box 09 May '04

09 May '04

Hi there, Thanks to everyone who came to the installfest today, and a special thanks to all those who helped out; especially Matt for all the organizing, Daniel for the venue and Bruce for rousing all the attendants! We had a lot of people signing up as a token of their gratitude - thank you very much; those of you who didn't pay today will want to check https://secure.wlug.org.nz/join.html to figure out what to do next. Just a note to a gentleman named David, who gave us Mandrake 10 - you paid and filled out a membership form, which I think you took with you. Can you contact me off list, if you're out there, or if anyone knows David can they please ask him to get in touch. I'm sure you'll hear more from others about this event soon. If you came, and have any questions or comments, please feel free to post them to this list. Regards, Craig

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Installfest is this weekend
by Daniel Lawson 06 May '04

06 May '04

As you are all probably aware, the WLUG Installfest is happening this weekend, Saturday 8 May, at Crawshaw Primary School. Directions and information can be obtained from the WLUG Wiki, at http://www.wlug.org.nz/InstallFest. If you are planning on coming, please please please register your interest. We'd like to have a rough idea of how many tables to put out, how many meters of power and network cabling we need, and how many sachets of Raro to buy. This also applies if you have talked to people and they are keen on coming - get them to register as well, or register a separate time for their entry. Thanks a lot, we hope to see a lot of you on Saturday. Daniel

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Network profiles in Mandrake
by Glenn Ramsey 05 May '04

05 May '04

Anyone know how to get network profiles working in Mandrake? The whole system seems to be badly broken, but then again I may have set it up wrong. What I want is to set up a home profile and a University profile on my laptop. Home needs a static ip and University needs dhcp. Actually home could use dhcp too but then if I boot when not connected to a network it takes forever to time out looking for the dhcp server. I have tried to set this up using netdrake (or whatever it's called) but the ip address settings ie static/dhcp etc seem to be independent of the profile, so there isn't really any point to using it. Any suggestions? g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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'Automatic' kernel patching
by Daniel Lawson 03 May '04

03 May '04

Just saw an article about automatic kernel patching linked off rootprompt.org Ketchup is a script that intelligently downloads the right files for a kernel. EG, if you want to grab the latest kernel source, and you have nothing, it'll just grab the source. If you already have an earlier version, it'll grab the right patches to bring that version up to speed. It also understands a range of patchsets, such as the -pre or -rc kernels, and some of the extra patchsets such as the -mm, -tiny and -mjb patchsets. http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2976 http://www.selenic.com/ketchup/

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Mysql support in apache /php
by Stephen Pearce 03 May '04

03 May '04

Hi Any experts on this out there? I have set up a mysql database running on a server. The database is loadable and can be interacted with via mysql client using a telnet session. A basic php script running on the httpd server <?php phpinfo() ?> returns a result suggesting mysql is supported ..under the dbx subheading of the return .. but if I run the "mysql_connect" command the web page shows a error saying that this function (mysql_connect()) is not supported .. I cannot work out why not. Secondly I would ideally have liked to create the database as non root .. but seem to only be allowed to do it as root. Other users can readily access it. The os is rh9. Oddly, setting this up locally on my laptop there is no problem in running mysql_connect despite the installation being essentially identical (although I did use mysql rpm binaries to set up mysql). Any thought appreciated Stephen :>)

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RE: [wlug] Programming Courses ?
by David Nicholls 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Hi gavin check out these courses at the uni (comp-sci)... comp103 comp130 and possibly comp208 comp258 Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Denby [mailto:redhat(a)ihug.co.nz] Subject: Re: [wlug] Programming Courses ? Thanks for the interesting comments to date, Just to fine tune my thinking, If a new programmer learnt C++ and then was handed some C code for tidy up, he would probably manage ok ??? Of course since no courses seem to be available, it may come down to books and self learning anyway. Both the polytech and uni are sending me course details, but neither course call centre understood a bean of what I asked.

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Programming Courses ?
by Gavin Denby 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Having lasted 25 years as an electronic Tech, I am needing to expand to cope with the continued blurring of the line between when the electronics start and the Programming of PC's takes over. I already write assembler for microcontrollers (programming from 2K to 2 meg in assembler) and really should be using c for this, but have never took the time to learn it.I have however programed in both Portran (port-a Punch) and basic many years ago. Ancient history lesson ends I basically need to program PC's to set up/ colect data/ process data and probably via a graphical interface. so my question ... in 2 parts: 1. Is C still a viable language to learn to write programs for PC/MAC Ideally in Win MacOSX (cocoa looks nice) and Linux or should I be looking at C# / Mono / QT / ?? It seems that all later programming languages seem to be adding to C (extend .. embrace ??) so Would C be a good start place ? All opinions welcome.... and crystal ball gazing will be entertained. 2. Does anyone have experience with a good course / course provider that they would recommend to provide such training. I would prefer part time training, as my family like to eat, but this is flexible, as I can work nights/weekend is the course is not too long. Of course, then I could apply for the job that just hit my inbox too :-) Thanks in advance.

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Re: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home.
by Stephen Pearce 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

If you still have it .. probably not .. I'm interested Thanks Stephen pearce > > From: Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> > Date: 2004/04/19 Mon PM 08:54:16 GMT+12:00 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home. > > Pentium 200, 64MB SIMM RAM, AT Case & Motherboard. Free to a good > home. Take it now or I chuck it. > > Regards > -- > Oliver Jones Â» Director Â» oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com Â» +64 (21) 41 > 2238 > Deeper Design Limited Â» +64 (7) 377 3328 Â» www.deeperdesign.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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OT Programming Job
by Craig Mckenna 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Wanted: Programmer/s with HTML, Perl and Java experience, preferably on a linux platform. This is for an immediate project requirement. Must have database experience. Please contact simon(a)eforms.co.nz to arrange a meeting. We are based in Hamilton and have an excellent coffee machine! -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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iptables question
by DrWho? 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

This has more then likely been asked by a million people with a million different answers but here goes. I was wondering if it is possible for iptables to filter by a domain name? I would like to restrict port 80 connects to .nz domains only and all others are stealthed. The solution does not need to be very fast, handle more then one high level domain or any other ports and is not for commercial usage. Any solutions?

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RE: Perl spelling rules (was: [wlug] iptables question [OT])
by Lindsay Druett 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

HeY yOu FoGoT tO dO tHe SuBjEcT > -----OrIgInAl mEsSaGe----- > From: A. pAgAlTzIs [mailto:pAgAlTzIs(a)gMx.dE] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:59 > To: wAiKaTo lInUx uSeRs gRoUp > Subject: Re: Perl spelling rules (was: [wlug] iptables question [OT]) > > > * OrIoN(a)CoKe.nEt.nZ <oRiOn(a)cOkE.NeT.Nz> [2004-04-27 03:21]: > > FiLeSyStEmS WhIcH ArE PeDaNtIc aBoUt cAsE ArE StUpId. HuMaNs > > WhIcH ArE PeDaNtIc aBoUt tHe cAsE Of aN AcRoNyM ArE 100 TiMeS > > WoRsE. > > i bEt yOu cArE AbOuT CaSe aS WeLl. > > -- > ReGaRdS, > ArIsToTlE > > "iF YoU CaN'T LaUgH At yOuRsElF, yOu dOn't tAkE LiFe > sErIoUsLy eNoUgH." > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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ms access 97 to apache/php/mysql
by Stephen Pearce 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Is there an automated way to take an access 97 database and port it to mysql .. and convert the forms for php access using apche? (I have apache/php and mysqld operating on a networked server .. and am now trying to do the port) Thanks Stephen

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Well, that address space wasn't featured on the Auckland Peering Exchange, Mmm... > -----Original Message----- > From: pdm1-forwarding > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:43 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [wlug] iptables question > > > Lindsay Druett wrote: > > What ? All of it ? > > > > But someone mentioned that there are bits of it over in Japan. > > Someone else mentioned that it was all over the show. > > That would have been a more recent assignment, I don't think APNIC > > even see Telecom as a big enough player to assign a full /8 block. > > > > They got assigned 222.152/16. I have one of these addresses > on my home DSL > and I can't get to various portions of the internet, can be > quite annoying. > > Philip Murray > Systems Engineer - Open2view.com > webmaster(a)open2view.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Of course they are, which means getting a /24 block might be a bit easier, and that they stand a chance for a /16 block. > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Broadley [mailto:drew(a)corrupt.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:44 > To: 'Waikato Linux Users Group' > Subject: RE: [wlug] iptables question > > > > I don't think APNIC even see Telecom as a big enough player > to assign > a > > full /8 block. > > Last I saw they were a medium membership holder. > > Surely they would "care" about that sized customer ? > > - Drew > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

What ? All of it ? But someone mentioned that there are bits of it over in Japan. Someone else mentioned that it was all over the show. That would have been a more recent assignment, I don't think APNIC even see Telecom as a big enough player to assign a full /8 block. Anyway, not my problem... > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Broadley [mailto:drew(a)corrupt.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:13 > To: 'Waikato Linux Users Group' > Subject: RE: [wlug] iptables question > > > > Dunno... Who has that one ? > > Who knows, everything under my administrative control was in > > there, so I'm happy with it... > > Xtra's Flatrate 256k Netblock. > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Dunno... Who has that one ? Who knows, everything under my administrative control was in there, so I'm happy with it... > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Broadley [mailto:drew(a)corrupt.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 09:50 > To: 'Waikato Linux Users Group' > Subject: RE: [wlug] iptables question > > > > Here you go... > > Auckland Peering Exchnage's peering list would be a good start... > > > > <prefix-list> > > Where is 222/8 ? :) > > - Drew > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Yeah, so if you decided to go down the path that Bruce suggested which was to allow only source addresses from within New Zealand networks to do normal port 80 web traffic, then the first place I would look is the BGP prefix lists on the New Zealand's primary peering point, and worry about the rest later if that becomes a problem. As I said, this is a good start... > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Stevenson [mailto:richard(a)endace.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:09 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: RE: [wlug] iptables question > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Lindsay Druett wrote: > > > Dunno... Who has that one ? > > 222/8 is spread all over APNIC space... KDDI (in Japan) has > 222.0.0.0/12, > if I calculate my bits correctly. > > Cheers > > R > > > Who knows, everything under my administrative control was > in there, so > > I'm happy with it... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Drew Broadley [mailto:drew(a)corrupt.co.nz] > > > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 09:50 > > > To: 'Waikato Linux Users Group' > > > Subject: RE: [wlug] iptables question > > > > > > > > > > Here you go... > > > > Auckland Peering Exchnage's peering list would be a > good start... > > > > > > > > <prefix-list> > > > > > > Where is 222/8 ? :) > > -- > Richard Stevenson > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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food for installfest thought
by Gavin Denby 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Ok its really nothing to do with the installfest, But here is an interesting article comparing a mandrake and win2k install on a system. All the rules and issues are there, but its a fair view on the install processes of 2 OS's Its a fun read, we all know it of course, but for those that are not forced to do Windows installs, it exposes some of the problems with installing Windows onto a machine. If you have time its worth looking at . Have a nice day. (and no I don't use either of these versions, so I can't discuss the findings.)

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: zcat [mailto:zcat(a)wired.net.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:01 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [wlug] iptables question > > > DrWho? wrote: > > > My idea was to use a callback too hook port 80 and use a > perl script > > to reverse lookup the ip address and look for .nz at the > end and pass > > fail there after. > > PAINFUL!! > > If you wanted it hidden you'd have do blackhole the port by default, > sniff for attempted connections, look up the address, change > firewalling > on the fly.. and you're opening yourself up for a huge self-DoS if > someone spoofs millions of random SYN packets at you. > > I believe there's a list of IP ranges that are allocated within New > Zealand. configure your box to accept those and blackhole everything > else. End of problem. > > Here you go... 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pl100 permit 203.163.86.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 203.163.98.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 203.167.128.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 203.173.128.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.48.0.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.0.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.12.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.32.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.56.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.128.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.142.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.148.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.152.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.211.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.54.252.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.0.0/25 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.1.0/25 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.4.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.7.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.8.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.10.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 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prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.228.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.230.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.55.248.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 210.246.0.0/18 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 218.101.0.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 218.101.56.0/24 ge 25 le 29 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 219.88.103.0/24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 219.88.128.0/20 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 permit 219.88.224.0/19 ge 20 le 24 ip prefix-list pl100 deny 0.0.0.0/0 le 32 Yeah go on.... 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Firewall script problem
by Gun Caundle 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

I am a newbie trying to create a firewall on RH9. I am using a script from the RH9 bible (p507). I am running a section at a time. What I have so far: # (1) Policies (default) iptables _P INPUT DROP iptables -P OUTPUT DROP iptables -P FORWARD DROP # (2) user-defined chain for ACCEPTED TCP packets iptables -N okay iptables -A okay -p TCP --syn -j ACCEPT iptables -A okay -p TCP -m state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A okay -p TCP -j DROP This line is giving me some grief: 'iptables -A okay -p TCP -m state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT' Because I get this error when I run it. 'firescript: line 23: ESTABLISHED,RELATED: command not found' The author says this line "allows through packets associated with an ESTABLISHED connection (one that has already had traffic pass through the interface) or a RELATED connection (one that is starting a new connection related to an already-established connection) Are there other commands I could use or another line of script that would do the same job? Any help would be appreciated. Gun Caundle

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WLUG Meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder bot 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

The WLUG meeting is this evening ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux as a Personal Video Recorder ([PVR]). In particular, looking at [MythTV], although I'll investigate the other options if I have time. Date: Monday 26 April 2004%%% Time: 7:00pm onwards - __Please note new time!__ %%% Location: CrawshawSchool%%%

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Fw: [wlug] Firewall script problem
by Craig Box 24 Apr '04

24 Apr '04

(Forwarded from Mark Grimshaw) Hi Gun, It may be something as simple as the 'ACCEPT' being on a different line to the main body of the command and therefore being treated as a command itself which will obviously lead to an error (although that could be word wrap in email clients). Try putting it on the same line. Mark G. On 24 Apr 2004 at 9:21, Gun Caundle wrote: > I am a newbie trying to create a firewall on RH9. I am using a script > from the RH9 bible (p507). I am running a section at a time. What I > have so far: > > # (1) Policies (default) > iptables _P INPUT DROP > iptables -P OUTPUT DROP > iptables -P FORWARD DROP > > > # (2) user-defined chain for ACCEPTED TCP packets > iptables -N okay > iptables -A okay -p TCP --syn -j ACCEPT > iptables -A okay -p TCP -m state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > iptables -A okay -p TCP -j DROP > > This line is giving me some grief: > 'iptables -A okay -p TCP -m state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT' > Because I get this error when I run it. > 'firescript: line 23: ESTABLISHED,RELATED: command not found' > > The author says this line "allows through packets associated with an > ESTABLISHED connection (one that has already had traffic pass through > the interface) or a RELATED connection (one that is starting a new > connection related to an already-established connection) > > Are there other commands I could use or another line of script that > would do the same job? Any help would be appreciated. > > Gun Caundle

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[Administrivia] WLUG Committee Mailing List
by daniel＠meta.net.nz 24 Apr '04

24 Apr '04

One of the points of order raised at the last WLUG Committee meeting regarded the wlug-committee mailing list. For those of you who aren't aware of the current situation, the wlug-committee mailing list is a moderated mailing list available for the commitee members to discuss committee business. As such, only committee members can post. However, in the interests of open policy, and not least because we are a group concerned with open standards and discussions, the wlug-committee mailing list available for read-only access for general paid-up LUG members. However, it is important that anyone who wishes to read the wlug-committee mailing list understands a few points: * You are allowed to read the list, but you are not given write access. This is primarily because you have elected the committee to act on your behalf, and it is up to the committee to make the decisions. If you feel strongly about something you may forward your point to any committee member, who may act upon it. This does not mean they will raise your point immediately, nor does it mean they will forward your email direct to the wlug-committee list. * The list is there for the purpose of committee discussions. As such, the committee needs to be able to have candid discussions. * Once a final decision is made, the committee may inform the rest of the LUG if appropriate. However, until the committee has committed to a decision, you have no permission to act upon it. * If the committee wishes to ask for general input on a point, then it is up to the committee to do so. We have decided to keep the wlug-committee mailing list the way it is for now, despite some recent events which have lead, it seems, a great deal of confusion in external groups to the LUG. Had the above guidelines been understood beforehand, this would not have happened. It is important to us that if you choose to read the wlug-committee mailing list, you adhere to the above guidelines. We don't want to have to close the list to non-committee members completely. Daniel El Presidente :)

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mail clients and archiving
by Glenn Ramsey 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Hi, Does anyone know if any of the popular/stable mail clients have an archiving feature? If not then what is a good way to archive mail? Ideally I'd like something where I can say "archive all mail older than X" or something like that. I am using maildir so I guess I could just use shell commands to find all the old files but a method where I don't have to think too hard or read a zillion different man pages would be better ;-). g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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InstallFest Progress
by Matt Brown 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Hi, I wanted to keep everybody up to date on how progress with planning for the InstallFest is going. Keep an eye on www.wlug.org.nz/InstallFest for the latest details. We have confirmed the date (8 May) and venue Crawshaw School. The InstallFest will run from 11am to 4pm. Advertising is well underway but the most effective form of advertising we can get is word of mouth, tell all your friends and then bring them along on the day. Please register first so we know how many people are likely to be there! While we are calling the event an InstallFest we really want it to be much more than that, we want it to be a social event for the lug, even if you already have linux installed and do not plan to install anything on the day feel free to come along. You don't even need to be a paid member of WLUG to participate. What happens on the day will really be determined by who is there, obviously our first priority will be installing Linux for new people who attend, but if time allows and there are interested people there it is feasible that we could also have some other activities based around various applications etc. I've got no idea what form that sort of thing would take, if we would have time, or if people are interested in that sort of thing. The InstallFest is not just for new linux users (although that is the primary focus). One idea that I think would be quite cool if time permitted would be to have a bug finding / squashing or documentation party where pick a peice of software and as a group work towards making this better. The benefit of this is that there are lots of different tasks that can be done, if you're not a programmer you can test and look for bugs, if you are a programmer you can hack around in the code etc. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble and I'm really just throwing out ideas rather than describing existing plans - the point is we want everyone who is involved in the LUG to come and be at the InstallFest, given enough people we could easily have a group doing new installs while other people are doing something else. So consider this a challenge, we've never done an InstallFest before, it's new and interesting, get in and support your LUG by being involved! -- Matt Brown Email: matt(a)mattb.net.nz GSM : 021 611 544

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RE: [wlug] Request for old hardware.
by David Nicholls 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Sorry cant remember, its been a while since I last looked. But it uses scsi and once again is free for the taking for anyone who even just wants to take a peep. Warning: it's a big sod so anyone planning on using a carrybag and motor scooter to transport it, beware... Its heavy and I repeat large! :) Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: Simon Anderson [mailto:oob(a)wildstar.net] Subject: RE: [wlug] Request for old hardware. Hello David, What type of Sun server do you have ? Regards, SImon. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, David Nicholls wrote: > I have an old sun server if you want that... Unknown working order at > this stage but it should be working (just minus HDDs). free > > Cheers... > david >

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RE: [wlug] Request for old hardware.
by David Nicholls 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I have an old sun server if you want that... Unknown working order at this stage but it should be working (just minus HDDs). free Cheers... david -----Original Message----- Wondering if anyone out there has any old PCs, they don't require anymore? Preferably greater than 133MHz, that they want taken off their hands. :) Also interested if anyone has any old Sun Sparcstation/IPXs, they don't need anymore. Almost anything considered :D Thanks, Lance. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Request for old hardware.
by Lance Fitz-Herbert 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Wondering if anyone out there has any old PCs, they don't require anymore? Preferably greater than 133MHz, that they want taken off their hands. :) Also interested if anyone has any old Sun Sparcstation/IPXs, they don't need anymore. Almost anything considered :D Thanks, Lance. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Spare RAM.
by Nigel Nguyen 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

Hi there, I've just joined the mailing list. Just an email to say hi to everyone. The other thing, I have some spare 128 - PC133 Ram @ home. So if you guys need to speed up the server, then let me know where and to whom I can drop it. With best wishes, Nigel Ng. P.S: I did see the bank account on the internet but who is the bank acc holder as my bank asked for the holder thou. Thanks for respone.

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P200 for free.
by Oliver Jones 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

A number of people have expressed interest in the P200. Please note that I am in Taupo. You either have to come get it or pay the $20 in postage it'll probably cost to send it to Hamilton. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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how to find files with multiple suffixes
by Glenn Ramsey 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

How do I find files having either of several extensions? Eg this finds all .c and .h files $find . -name '*.[ch]' but what if I want to find all .cpp and .h files? I guess I need a grouping operator in the pattern but I can't figure out what it is. I've looked in the man page and Google and tried a few things, also tried the -regex switch instead of -name but couldn't get it to work. Eg this doesn't find anything $find . -regex '.*\.(cpp|h)' I suspect the answer is really simple. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Kiwi VOIP interconnect
by Simon Anderson 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

G'day, I read in your Wiki some details on Asterisk, notably from Nathan Ward and Matt Riddell, but my quick search of the last two years' postings to this list didn't turn anything else up, so forgive me if this message is coming to the wrong place. Matt R and I are already in touch with one another, working on an Asterisk<->Asterisk interconnect arrangement. Matt is in Dunedin and I'm in Wellington. I wonder if there is there an Asterisk operator (or a prospective operator) in the Waikato who would like to interconnect? In the spirit of quid pro quo, I will terminate calls in the Wellington free calling area in exchange for my calls being terminated in the Waikato, with a view to setting up a peering arrangement between all willing Asterisk operators in this country as and when the opportunity arises, down the line. Note that I am not proposing a commercial venture of any sort - I'm an enthusiast looking for other enthusiasts who enjoy messing with this technology and might be interested in providing a small scale solution to others out of a sense of altruism. Talk to me about it or request an account here; iax2://guest(a)gateway.anderson.gen.nz Regards, Simon

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RE: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home.
by DrWho? 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

It is tempting.. but I all ready have a good collection of old PCs... Sadly the 286 has gone to silicon heaven. At 09:02 20/04/2004, you wrote: >content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-23701A9B; >boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C42651.9C081870" > >There you go Dr. Who... > >How can you refuse this ? >You won't need to run Linux on your 286 anymore... >-----Original Message----- >From: Oliver Jones [mailto:oliver(a)deeper.co.nz] >Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 20:54 >To: Waikato Linux Users Group >Subject: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home. > >Pentium 200, 64MB SIMM RAM, AT Case & Motherboard. Free to a good >home. Take it now or I chuck it. > >Regards >-- >Oliver Jones » Director » ><mailto:oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com>oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 >(21) 41 2238 >Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » ><http://www.deeperdesign.com>www.deeperdesign.com > >_______________________________________________ >wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home.
by Lindsay Druett 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

There you go Dr. Who... How can you refuse this ? You won't need to run Linux on your 286 anymore... -----Original Message----- From: Oliver Jones [mailto:oliver(a)deeper.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 20:54 To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home. Pentium 200, 64MB SIMM RAM, AT Case & Motherboard. Free to a good home. Take it now or I chuck it. Regards -- Oliver Jones > Director > <mailto:oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com> oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com > +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited > +64 (7) 377 3328 > <http://www.deeperdesign.com> www.deeperdesign.com

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Pentium 200, free to a good home.
by Oliver Jones 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

Pentium 200, 64MB SIMM RAM, AT Case & Motherboard. Free to a good home. Take it now or I chuck it. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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3 * EDO 128MB sticks
by Drew Broadley 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

Does anyone have 3 for sale ?

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RE: [wlug] Dual Booting for the install-fest [long]
by Lindsay Druett 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

FFS Man !!! Which part don't you understand about WLUG not wanting to use Ghost or Partition Magic ? Licensing costs and issues are not the only reason behind this... I personally wouldn't paint myself into a corner backing up peoples computers, there are a lot of issues, what if the back up failed ? What is the content I'm backing up ? What about disposing of the data once finished ? Believe it or not, there are a lot of legal issues there... The other issues (which I thought was very obvious) is that here we are promoting a suite of software ranging from the OS right up to end user applications that is for starters free, open source, an alternative to Microsoft, and we are going to use what? to partition hard drive space, and we are going to use what? to backup the data. Hey if you want to use at home (or whatever) is fine to me, but what you are suggesting here is as appropriate as suggesting that you consume alcohol at church... Personally, Hard Drives are not expensive, people should consider installing a new hard drive in their machine and install the going distro. If they are newbies, things *will* go wrong somewhere along the line, and at least they can reformat the drive and start all over again without losing any sleep. > -----Original Message----- > From: DrWho? [mailto:x_files_(a)ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:20 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [wlug] Dual Booting for the install-fest [long] > > > At 17:56 18/04/2004, you wrote: > > > > >>I think the idea of asking Symantic if they would do some sort of > >>sponsorship with Ghost would be a great idea. > > > >Great. Where can I download the source code? > > > You cant, but sometimes you need to spend a bit of money to > get the job > done <grin> and if a commercial pay for it product will do > the job a hell > of allot better than any free product then so be it <grin>. > > Also if symantic would be willing to give away some copies > then take it!! > it will do a good job, better than any oss solutions <grin> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > >

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Re: [wlug] Install fest
by DrWho? 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

At 15:49 15/04/2004, you wrote: > > I would think, providing something like Partition Magic is available ( > > which I have and no doubt others ) to do the job it could be offered as > > an option for those who are not competent with doing it themselves or > > installing new hardware. > >Oh? Does the license allow that? >Even so, it's still far more risk/hassle than we need I believe. It can run from a boot disk, no install on target PC needed. > > I have resized MANY NTFS and FAT partitions with PQMAGIC and never had a > > problem, not to say there have not or will not be any problems, but > > there is also the option of ghosting their HDD before the resize. > >To what? Are you providing the disk space? >Remember this is an afternoon workshop. Good question, that is one minor problem with ghost.... perhaps a spare 40G HDD?? Or setup a ghost server on a PC with some disk space and ghost over a network? >-- >Greig McGill > > >_______________________________________________ >wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG Meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder bot 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

The WLUG meeting is one week away ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux as a Personal Video Recorder ([PVR]). In particular, looking at [MythTV], although I'll investigate the other options if I have time. Date: Monday 26 April 2004%%% Time: 7:00pm onwards - __Please note new time!__ %%% Location: Probably at CrawshawSchool%%%

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[installfest] Hard Disk Repartitioning
by Matt Brown 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

In light of the recent frenzy of discussion regarding hard disk partitioning and the InstallFest I would like to clarify what the official position of the WLUG Committee on this issue is. WLUG (and it's representatives) will not be responsible for repartitioning or backing up hard disks at the InstallFest. All data backup and disk preparation tasks (such as ensuring there is sufficient unpartitioned space) are the responsibility of the owner of the computer and should be completed before attending the InstallFest. The minimum requirements that we have specified for hard disks for the install fest are either a) You are willing to wipe the entire disk (which is at least 5GB in size) and have Linux installed. OR b) There is at least 5GB of UNPARTITIONED space available on the disk. The rationale behind this position can be found on the InstallFest wiki page at http://www.wlug.org.nz/InstallFest along with other information related to hardware requirements. If people have further general comments on Free hard disk partitioning tools that are available for use in Linux then you are most welcome to post them to the list, however I would suggest that any disk partitioning issues related solely to the InstallFest have already been well and truly flogged and any more discussion would be counter productive. Questions or concerns about any aspect of the position stated above can be directed to myself or any other member of the committee. Regards -- Matt Brown Email: matt(a)mattb.net.nz GSM : 021 611 544

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Re: [wlug] Install fest
by Wayne Rooney 17 Apr '04

17 Apr '04

>Also, to Wayne, who decided that because a process "works for him" it's >infallible, and 100% safe for all, I've seen plenty of PM partitioning >problems in my time, and it's the benchmark. I didn't say it was infallible. I said it was designed to fail safe. qtparted resizes NTFS partitions with ntfsresize. Part of "man ntfsresize" says: KNOWN ISSUES No reliability problems are known or has been reported. If you need help please try the ntfsresize FAQ first (see below) and if you dont find your answer then send your question, comment or bug report to <linux-ntfs-dev(a)lists.sourceforge.net>. No subscription is needed but the mailing list is moderated and it can take some time to approve your post. There are some very rarely met limitations at present: filesystems having bad sectors, highly fragmented Master File Table (MFT), relocation of the first MFT extent and resizing in the middle of some metadata in some cases arent supported yet. These cases are detected and resizing is refused, restricted to a safe size or the closest safe size is displayed. --------- I like the words "no reliability problems are known" The fact that you've seen problems with OTHER software doesn't mean that THIS software is no good, does it? If you've had problems with qtparted then do share them so we know what to look out for. >So forgive me if I don't >really want to see the WLUG put its balls on the block guaranteeing the >safety of the user's data. That's why you get them to sign a waiver. Why would you want to guarantee somebodys data? That's asking for trouble. An installfest should be all care and no responsibility. Check out this waiver: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/sigunix/installfest/waiver.shtml Wayne

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Re: [wlug] Install fest
by Wayne Rooney 17 Apr '04

17 Apr '04

>No backups necessary then? > >Cool, so it can predict a power outage? Wow! :-) Smartarse ;-P Yes, actually, it takes a reading from /dev/crystalball and uses KStars to get an alignment of the planets and only resizes partitions if there are no power outages in the near future. Wayne

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Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
by Oliver Jones 16 Apr '04

16 Apr '04

I'm about to put the Game Return to Castle Wolfenstein on TradeMe. RTCW is a great first person shooter and as a bonus works in Linux as a native app! A rare thing with Loki games now gone. http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=10582307 If you're interested place a bid. I'd get a kick out of seeing another Linux gamer enjoy this game. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] Install fest
by Wayne Rooney 16 Apr '04

16 Apr '04

>You do not need to install it as it will run from a boot disk, or in my >case a boot CD. Read your licence agreement again carefully, Doctor. Then perhaps visit http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html from which comes the following quote: "Partition Magic is one solution -- except that Linux user groups cannot lawfully keep a copy on hand to use on visitors' machines, even if they're willing to spend the money. Advising them to buy a copy and come back is lawful, but not very appealing." Wayne

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Issues with BIND
by Craig Box 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

(Passing on the message from Drew. Note to everyone, messages you send from unsubscribed addresses get dropped! -- Craig) I am having issues with a SINGLE domain "corrupt.co.nz", every other domain is fine! Here's the deal: Bind logs return nothing like they usually would saying there was an error with the domain. I can dig to ALL of my AUTH NS servers, and get the records returned no problemo. I can use XTRA, DTS (and a few others have used their own DNS servers) and get returned results without any SERVFAIL errors. I try to dig anything to the PARADISE NS servers (203.96.152{4,12}) and I get mixed results. I get www.corrupt.co.nz and corrupt.co.nz, but none of my overly important records (home.corrupt.co.nz, mail.corrupt.co.nz) It returns SERVFAIL id:2 whenever I try to request anything other then www.corrupt.co.nz / corrupt.co.nz via PARADISES NS Servers Any ideas? I have contacted soa(a)paradise.net.nz but god knows how long that will take to be processed. - Drew

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RE: [wlug] Prefered Mail Client
by David Nicholls 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

> Strip back the FUD; apply the standard "there are security holes in Linux applications > fixed all the time, but Gartner Group rarely complains about them, and if they do, it > gets written off as anti-MS propaganda"... One interesting point I think people offten tend to miss when the Gartner Group or other such company is counting bugs/security warnings/year in linux versus windows codebases is that for linux they never differentiate between the O/S itself and the apps that are included with the distros. They like to lump them all in together to get the most number of bugs possible. My suspicion is, if they only looked at the O/S itself they would have a much harder time finding problems. Cheers... david

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Re: [wlug] Install fest
by Wayne Rooney 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

>Resizing is a very risky option; the very LAST thing we want is people >who say "I tried to install Linux once, and lost all my data because if >it.". Especially if we were helping them at the time. No, no, no. Resizing is very easy and safe. Boot computer off Knoppix cd. Open an x-term. Type "sudo su <enter>" Type "qtparted <enter>" Click on the edge of the partition you want to resize and drag it to the new size you want. Click "ok" And you're done. And it handles NTFS partitions. And it fails safe, that is, if something is going to go wrong (which it never has for me) it throws up an error message and quits BEFORE making changes to the hard drive. Try it. You'll like it. Wayne

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Upcoming committee meeting
by Craig Box 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Per the WLUG charter, we'd like to inform you that there is an WLUG committee meeting to be held next Wednesday, 21 April. Tentative Agenda 1. Minutes from previous meeting 2. Treasurer's Report 3. Correspondence 4. Committee Mailing List - effectiveness & policy regarding posting 5. Committee - Purpose, Direction, Relationship to WLUG 6. Resignation, Greig McGill 7. General Business If you want to have an item added to this agenda, please contact me at secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. Craig, Secretary

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installing new kernel from rh9
by Stephen Pearce 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

I recently tried to compile and install the 2.6.5 kernel on a rh 9 system (dell i8500) .. it installed ok as a grub boot option but hangs trying to load the directory structure .. I have compiled and installed modules .. what else do I have to do to get the new kernel to boot? Thanks Stephen

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