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Ubuntu 5.10 Image
by Ivan Potgieter 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

Hi all, As you may or may not know, Ubuntu 5.10 was released last week and I have been trying to download it - unsuccessfully! Yip, I'm still on dialup :-(( Are there any good samaratons out there (in Hamilton) that could supply me with a copy of the i386 release iso (ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso)? Thanks, Ivan

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WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder bot 16 Oct '05

16 Oct '05

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A WLUG meeting is booked for this date. If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start.

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(OT) Paid work for students or anyone
by Richard Hayes 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

Dear list, I have two problems that I will pay to have fixed 1. I have a IR device that works with Windows to upload data. Using Linc record or IrDa-utils I need to capture the data similar to a package sniffer and make it readable in Linux. http://www.lirc.org/ irda.sourceforge.net/ 2. Openemr is a medical patients system and billing system. I would like to hear from anyone to build a Debian package using Sarge. Currently there is a Mandrake RPM so I could use alien but I would prefer a real Debian package. http://sourceforge.net/projects/openemr Please email or call -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WLUG Committee Meeting To have something added to the agenda for this meeting, please email secretary @ wlug.org.nz. Provisional agenda: # Minutes from previous meeting # Matters arising # Correspondence # Treasurers report # General business

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Fwd: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au 2006: Registrations are open!
by Ian McDonald 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

Folks, This is one of the three premier Linux conferences worldwide which is in NZ next year. Well worth attending if you can. I am presenting a paper at this conference also! Ian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lca-announce-admin(a)lists.linux.org.au <lca-announce-admin(a)lists.linux.org.au> Date: 11-Oct-2005 11:59 Subject: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au 2006: Registrations are open! To: lca-announce(a)lists.linux.org.au 2006 - Dunedin, NZ! linux.conf.au is the annual Australian Linux technical conference, and is one of the largest gatherings of users and developers of Free and Open Source Software in the Southern Hemisphere. It is an opportunity for developers and groups to present their ideas amongst peers, and for the Free Software and Open Source communities to gather in general. Summary: Registrations are open! See http://lca2006.linux.org.au/register/ The 2006 conference is being held in Dunedin, New Zealand, at The University of Otago[1]. More information can be found on the conference website: http://lca2006.linux.org.au/ Registrations: The organisers of linux.conf.au 2006 are proud to finally announce that registrations are open. Keynote speakers at the conference are Mark Shuttleworth (instigator of the Ubuntu Linux distribution), Sudhakar "Thaths" Chandrasekharan (co-founder of Linux India), and Damian Conway (Perl 6 Developer and Guru). Some of the other speakers presenting at linux.conf.au 2006 are listed on http://linux.conf.au/speakers.php. This list will grow as more speakers confirm their acceptance to present at linux.conf.au, so check back from time to time. Like previous years the response to the call for papers was overwhelming, with over 150 paper and tutorial submissions received. Selection of the successful submissions was very difficult! Registration fees for linux.conf.au 2006 will be: AU$690 for professional delegates, AU$300 for hobbyist delegates, and a low AU$100 for students. An early bird discount of AU$172 for professional delegates and AU$75 for hobbyist delegates is available for those who register and pay before November 18th 2005 (This brings the prices down to AU$517.50 and AU$225 respectively). Registration for linux.conf.au includes admission to the two days of mini-conferences preceding linux.conf.au. We'll be announcing the miniconfs very soon, so stay tuned! Anyway, without further ado, it's time for you to direct your browser at: http://lca2006.linux.org.au/register/ ... And register so you can join us in January! See you there! Please feel free to forward this announcement to your local LUG, or any other person or group that would be interested! [1]: http://www.otago.ac.nz/ Regards, Mike Beattie, linux.conf.au 2006 Organisers _______________________________________________ lca-announce mailing list lca-announce(a)lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lca-announce

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Oh the irony of it all.
by Dave Waddling 10 Oct '05

10 Oct '05

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3437625a28,00.html -- Dave Waddling

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D-Link 504G Router and Ubuntu Hoary
by Ron Dean 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

I have got the router working with WinXP as well as my Ubuntu box however it stopped working on my Linux Box and I suspect it may be a wiring problem is there any way to test the network so I can eliminate software as a cause.

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Weird power
by Kyle Carter 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Just an inquisitive question. My UPS seemed to go mental last night/this morning (around midnight Sat Oct 1st) flicking between battery and mains repeatedly for a few hours.. But no flickering lights or anything.. Im wondering if anyone else had something similar? Im assuming it may have been the power company doing something weird re: daylight savings? Kyle Carter

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Burning an iso image to cd
by Ron Dean 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

I am using k3b burning software on Hoary do I have to alter the settings to burn an iso image

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Using the Sony EyeToy under Linux
by Ian McDonald 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Folks, While playing around with webcams under Linux I got this working and I've documented this at http://wlug.org.nz/EyeToy I've tested this out with GnomeMeeting and Camorama successfully. I'm sending this to the list as I know many of you may have these at home and it gives you a free webcam (you still need a microphone though). It wasn't well documented on the web either so I thought I might save a few of you the fun I went through :-) Ian

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Interesting Ubuntu article from Mark Shuttleworth (founder)
by Ian McDonald 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Folks, Given how most[1] WLUG members support Ubuntu there is an interesting article here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth Ian [1] as per WLUG survey

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Ubuntu PowerPC and AMD64 CD's
by Jamie Curtis 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Hi, I have a few AMD64/EM64T and PowerPC Ubuntu Hoary (5.04) CD's left over still. They contain both the install and LiveCD variants. Available for collection from the Uni or possibly by post. E-mail me off list for details. Cheers, Jamie

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Re: [wlug] mythtv installation day?
by Justin Hyde 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Thanks for the help Craig, very tempting to go home and try it now, but will have to wait until this evening. I knew that there was more than one way to skin the cat, but couldn't figure out how to integrate the help from the various pages/wikis. What are you experts partial to? Would ice cream persuade you to come along and help? I originally proposed next weekend for an installation day. I think this is too soon now, and I would like to get more experience before such a day. Can the experts please email me privately with a day/evening that is convenient, between now and end of November. I envisage a sat/sun with expert help for a few hours in the morning, and the experimenters can carry on through the day. Or the experimenters can start in the morning and experts turn up for lunch and solve all the problems in the afternoon. Location: my place in Ham East. Content: limited to free to air TV reception Bribery: Ice cream and other food and drink Date to be announced. Expressions of interest from experimenters would be helpful too please.

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Re: [wlug] mythtv installation day?
by Justin Hyde 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

>Along those lines, have you ever tried Knoppmyth? It's goal in life is >"KnoppMyth is my attempt at making the Linux and MythTV installation as >trivial as possible. " >http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Well, I tried to get this running on the weekend, (for free to air channels in Hamilton) and with a bit of experience under my belt I think I can ask a couple of targeted questions... I followed the installation instructions found on http:// <http://zaf.geek.nz/projects/mythtv/> zaf.geek.nz/projects/mythtv/ but came across a couple of hang ups. 1. In step 2 of the instructions, it gives details of how to grab the listings from ontv or mrgeek and also how to create a symlink between the tv_grab_nz_mrgeek (or ontv) to the tv_grab_au file that will be selected in the next step. >From what I can understand this tells mythtv where to look for the current tv listings. Am I right in assuming that through this setup mythtv will grab the settings automatically each week, or does that still need to be set up? Is anyone else using the scripts from zaf's webpage? Do the scripts need modification? 2. In step 3, section 3 - "Video sources" of running mythtv-setup as the mythtv user I create a new video source, and called it FTA or similar, and selected the "Australia" option. This creates a file in /home/mythtv/.mythtv called FTA.xmltv If I cancel out of the mythtv-setup program then this file will contain no code. The instructions then say to run mythfilldatabase --manual as the mythtv user but this doesn't work, I get an error along the lines saying that --manual is not a valid option. Any ideas how to proceed from here? What does the FTA.xmltv code look like? Any one got this file for Hamilton? 3. I'm still keen to have a mythtv installation day, who on the committee can help me make this happen? Cheers Justin

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USB Audio and Linux
by Oliver Jones 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hi Folks. For some unknown reason my plantronics headset makes nasty noises when I'm trying to record voice. Lots of background hum etc. On my laptop the hum is unusably bad. On my media box it isn't so bad. Anyway, I thought I might get a USB Plantronics headset to replace this one. I'm thinking it being a pure digital device the hummmmmm might be avoided. Anyway, I did a little Google for Linux and Plantronics DSP-500 and came up short. It appears to work but people seem to have problems integrating existing soundcards and the USB audio device. Most of these web pages mention old distross or kernels. Has anyone used a recent 2.6 kernel with ALSA and had joy getting two sound cards (or USB audio + sound card) to work well? Thanks. -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > http://www.deeperdesign.com/

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MTAs, oh the choices...
by Oliver Jones 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Now that I've got a debian box I have a somewhat more eclectic selection of MTAs. Instead of being "stuck" with sendmail I can select either Postfix or Exim. Currently my box has postfix 2.1.5 installed. But I see that I can install one of the following: Exim 3.36 Exim 4.50 (stable) Exim 4.52 (testing) Postfix 2.2.4 (testing) I know Daniel is fairly familiar with Exim but I know nothing about these alternative MTAs. Can anyone provide sage advice on which has more features, is easier to configure, has powerful plugins, db support, IMAP server integration, virtual domains, spam filtering that sort of thing. Recommendations highly appreciated. Regards -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com

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Distro Question - Terminal Server
by Ivan Potgieter 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hello all, I am trying to get a 'proof of concept' machine going that will emulate a Terminal (serial port) Server. ie. Connecting via SSH and get access to a com port via a VT100 terminal session. I'm looking for a distro that meets specific requirements: (If anyone can recomend any hadware equivalent devices, that would be appreciated also.) My requirements are (in oder of preference): * SSH * minicom * Good NIC detection * Small resource requirements (pentium I, approx 32MB ram <1GB HDD) * pref LiveCD or simular that will install onto HDD * CLI only - X not required, in fact, I'd prefer no X at all. Most of the mini distros seems to be lacking minicom (usually rescue distros) or are geared towards running some form of mini-X (usually also lacking minicom). The closest distro that I have found that may do the trick, is FreeSCO. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Ivan

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Access to www.wlug.org.nz
by Andrew Thrift 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

For around a month now i have not been able to access www.wlug.org.nz from our netblocks 202.49.148.0/24 and 202.49.149.0/24 has anything changed at the WLUG end that could be causing this? The DNS resolves to 210.55.18.250 Regards, Andy

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Access to www.wlug.org.nz
by Andrew Thrift 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

For around a month now i have not been able to access www.wlug.org.nz from our netblocks 202.49.148.0/24 and 202.49.149.0/24 has anything changed at the WLUG end that could be causing this? The DNS resolves to 210.55.18.250 Regards, Andy

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

The WLUG Mailing List is the discussion-list extension of the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated). As such, we expect members of this list to adhere to the principles espoused in the official WLUG Charter[1], in particular, Rule 6, which covers the activities on this mailing list. While this is an Acceptable Use Policy, the WLUG Committee do recognise the need for informal discussion among list members, and draconian administration is not the goal here. Please keep in mind, however, that your comments to this list do represent the WLUG, and while it is good to be seen as an organisation with a sense of humour, some comments may do major harm to our credibility as a serious advocate of GNU/Linux and all things Free Software/ Open Source related. List discussion should * be honest * accentuate the positive, without hyperbole or blatant misrepresentation * maintain a reasonable level of spelling and grammar * not indulge in ad hominem attacks * not continue inflammatory or abusive threads * not be unprofessional or petty, especially with respect to the names of other software companies * not promote or denigrate political, cultural, or religious views * not indulge in marketing or advertising, other than on a private sale basis, or advertising of jobs - which may be announced once only * not reproduce copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder * not defame any person or organisation Posters who consistently violate these guidelines will be dealt with at the discretion of the List Maintainer. If you feel you have been unfairly dealt with, you have recourse to any member of the WLUG Committee[2]. Certain mailing list etiquette should also be maintained: * please use only plain text (not HTML) * reply inline or below when quoting, rather than on top * trim quotes (don't reply quoting a 10 page message with a single line of reply) If you have any questions, start reading at http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html. These points have been established over a long time on this list. If you want to question them, please do it off list. As list users, use your discretion when pulling people up over etiquette - please reply off list, and if there is a serious breach, the list administrator will probably have dealt with it off-list already. [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter [2] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCommittee

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Re: [wlug] looking for python guru
by David Nicholls 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

ok, what about someone slightly less local? cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: David Nicholls Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 3:25 pm hey guys, a friend of mine (runs a web development business) is currently searching for someone local - tauranga/hamilton kinda area - with good python skills. let me know if you think you fit the bill & i'll pass your details on. cheers... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant d.nicholls at waikato.ac.nz School of Science & Engineering / Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato Hamilton, New Zealand

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CFP: Systems Administration Miniconf, linux.conf.au 2006.
by Craig Box 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Call for Presentations Systems Administration Miniconf, linux.conf.au 2006. This is a call for presentations for a 2 day Linux Systems Administration mini conference that will be held as part of the linux.conf.au conference in January 2006. The conference will be held in Dunedin, New Zealand. Miniconferences are held on the first two days, prior to the main programme. Please see our website at http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/ for details. The organisers of the Systems Administration Miniconf would like to invite proposals for presentations to be delivered at the Miniconf. Topics for presentations could include (but are not limited to) Samba, Databases, Backups, Firewalls, AAA, Troubleshooting, Buying Decisions, VPN, Virtual machines (Xen, UML, VMware), Monitoring Software, Web/Mail/LDAP/etc Server software, Wikis, PHP, Spam and Virus Filtering, VOIP, Trouble Ticket System, Best Practices, New Developments, Clustering/High Availability , Automated Installs, Automated configuration, Packaging Local Software. Speakers should assume that members of the audience have at least a couple of years experience in Unix/Linux administration. Format of Presentations ----------------------- Presentations of between 30 and 120 minutes (including questions) are currently being sought. We will also be holding a lightning talks session, with a list of 5-10 minutes short presentations.. Submitting talks ---------------- Please note that in order to give a presentation you must be register to attend the main linux.conf.au conference. In order to submit a talk please see our Call for Presentations webpage at: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/cfp.html Submissions (or any questions) should be sent to: contact @ sysadmin.miniconf.org. Dates and Deadlines ------------------- To encourage early submissions around half the programme will be filled from presentations submitted before the 31st of October. 31 Oct 2005 - Deadline for early submissions 18 Nov 2005 - Deadline for late submissions Contact and Questions --------------------- Please see our website at http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/ for more information on the miniconf and presenting at it. If you have any questions please feel free to email the organisers at: contact @ sysadmin.miniconf.org

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'Fixit' meetings
by GunCom 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

One of the suggestions in Craig's survey was to have 'fixit' meetings. Informal discussion after the AGM showed there is some support for this from experienced members. To gauge the depth of interest, e-mail me off list and mention the sort of things you would like to have 'fixed'. If there is enough interest I'll put it to the committee. Gun Caundle gun(a)guncom.co.nz --

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wanted socket 462 (atholon/duron) motherboard
by stephen pearce 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Hi anyone have one of these spare and for sale .. my elite k7s6a motherboard has died ... (but the memory and processor seem ok) Thanks Stephen

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Backups are your friend.
by Oliver Jones 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

My Laptop's Hard Disk croaked yesterday. The device is less than a year old but it decided to destroy itself. No idea why. So backup early and often people. You will be thankful one day. I'm glad I have _any_ backup at all. Even if it is 3 or more months old. Regards

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Exim Install on Ubuntu
by Ivan Potgieter 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Thanks for all the suggestions, I've tried apt-get install resulting in: ivan(a)silver:~$ sudo apt-get install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. My understanging of the above is that my system is clean. (FYI: I'm running Ubuntu 5.04) I have installed exim4, exim4-config, exim4-doc and found that anacron, at, lsb, mailx & mutt were still installed, but postfix, postfix-lts, ubuntu-base had been removed (as expected). So all seems fine. Thanks for all the feedback - it looks like it was just a storm in a teacup. Ivan. Matt Brown wrote: > What version of Ubuntu are you running Ivan? > Do you know if the package system was clean before you tried to install > Exim? > My suggestion on how to fix this would be to drop to the command line, > run apt-get install (no arguments). This will handle any packages that > are not in a clean state. Once you can run apt-get install (no > arguments) and have it return without doing anything, then try apt-get > install exim4 exim4-config (or use synaptic if you prefer).

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looking for python guru
by David Nicholls 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

hey guys, a friend of mine (runs a web development business) is currently searching for someone local - tauranga/hamilton kinda area - with good python skills. let me know if you think you fit the bill & i'll pass your details on. cheers... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant d.nicholls at waikato.ac.nz School of Science & Engineering / Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato Hamilton, New Zealand

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Sidebar issues
by Justin Hyde 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Sidebar issues With the sidebar enabled, I get it 2 times. http://www.geocities.com/justinhyde/withsidebar.jpg [220kB] Without the sidebar enabled, I get a see through sidebar. http://www.geocities.com/justinhyde/withoutsidebar.jpg [202kB] Using browser as below Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050717 Firefox/1.0.6 Haven't had a chance to view under Ubuntu yet. Any ideas Justin

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Re: [wlug] Sidebar issues
by Justin Hyde 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

>Hit F5 or Ctrl-R to refresh your screen and it comes right. Some sort >of caching issue by the look of it.... seems to do the trick, thanks

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Microsoft and JBoss working together
by Ian McDonald 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Quite an interesting article here: http://beta.news.com.com/Microsoft,+JBoss+link+server+software/2100-7344_3-… It goes further than I would have expected from Microsoft as it includes working together on Active Directory integration and allowing SQL Server to be a back end. Only question I have is how much will actually be open-source as the article says "most" JBoss software is LPGL.

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Exim Install on Ubuntu
by Ivan Potgieter 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Hello all, I've decided to install exim using Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager. When selecting some of the packages, some unexpected packages are marked for removal (see below). Marked for installation: exim4, exim4-config ==> automatically marked for removal: postfix, postfix-lts, ubuntu-base, anacron, at, lsb, mailx, mutt Can anyone explain why these are marked to be removed? Thanks, Ivan

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Re: [wlug] grub problem
by stephen pearce 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Further to my post yesterday ... I pulled out the flash rom chip ... and removed the cmos battery ... left things for a few hours .. then reinstalled .. and it booted .. fine .. then reset it and the same problem recurred .. then reinstalled flash rom but left cmos battery bu out and left overnight .. .. it rebooted ok .. I wonder whether some of the memory in the flash rom has "gone stale" i.e. is returning equivocal logic values ... if so is this due to flash failure or the expected degradation of memory in a flash device after 4 years? Alternative is static damage at a gate level which is intermittantly casuing failure .. hdd seems to be reliable ... I plan to re flash the rom when I get home Stephen

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Re: [wlug] grub prob
by stephen pearce 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Hi Same error, same conditions, Fedora core 4. Then lost control of keyboard ... .. could this be a virus using the recently identified hole in Firefox to download code to reprogram the flash rom? The alternative is a static spike which fried a whole lot of disparate systems .. would a hdd failure be consistant with being able to read to grub stage 2.? hopefully just corrupted the flash rom.. which might also be consistant with a wide range of disparate symptoms. I have a hdd partitioned for windows 98 and linux .. I could not get past the grub stage 2 phase .. and the keyboard would not respond to trying to "del" during boot to access the cmos ... so I reset the cmos on the motherboard (perhaps in retrospect ill advisedly ... it now gives a keyboard read error ..) if it is a fried motherboard .. does anyone have a k7s6a elite surplus/sale? It was thepccompany .. which of course is no longer! I'll have to pull it apart to see what processor and memory type it is .. unless someone knows. I have downloaded the firmware upgrade and plan to extract the flash rom and reprogram it in an eprom burner (if I can find one which suits the flash device en29f002t/5v challanging .. and frustrating symptoms! (I suppose it reflects crappy component tolerances .. maybe we should all buy pentioned servers as the engineering in these is a bit better) any new info appreciated Thanks Stephen

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Waikato Linux Users Group Incorporated Committee for 2006
by Craig Box 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Congratulations to the following people, who were last night voted in as the Executive Committee for the WLUG for 2006: President: Lindsay Druett Vice-President: David Hallett Treasurer: Ian McDonald Secretary: Craig Box General Committee: Matthias Dallmeier Perry Lorier Gian Perrone Minutes are now available at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2005-09-26. Thanks to everyone who came. Craig

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grub prob
by David Nicholls 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

hey guys, i have an interesting one. the other day my computer at home started for no aparent reason (i had'nt been fiddling or doing anything stupid on it... last time i used it i logged off & shut down normally) to display the following message when it starts up: GRUB loading stage 2 then it just sits theere doing nothing. i'm running suse 9.3. anyone got any clues? is more info needed? cheers... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant d.nicholls at waikato.ac.nz School of Science & Engineering / Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato Hamilton, New Zealand

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Debian and profile.d
by Oliver Jones 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Is there a /etc/profile.d like system on Debian? That is something I really like about Redhat. The default setup of bash is pretty light on Debian 3.1. I want to add a few aliases and stuff to the bash config system wide. Regards -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com

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scanning for an IP address...
by Camster342 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Does anyone know of a tool which will let me discover the IP address of my ADSL modem in this setup : LAN <----> switch <----> Linux Server <----> ADSL Modem My computer is in the LAN, the Linux server is a Debian Box with no monitor or keyboard, and the ADSL modem is a DLink 302G (the kind you get free with an Xtra connection). The Linux server has two network cards in it, one connected to the switch (eth0), and one connected straight to the modem(eth1). The ADSL modem has been configured into half-bridge mode as discussed on the wlug wiki page for it (http://wlug.org.nz/DSL-302G) which means the IP address that appears on the Linux box is the external IP address of the modem, or at least the last one that was used. Now the problem is, I want to update some configuration on the modem, but I cannot remember what the IP address for it is. All I remember was that I changed it from its default. Does anyone know of a command, presumably that I would run from the linux box that I can use to find out the IP address of the modem that I browse to, to configure it? -- Cameron

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WLUG Meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder bot 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

The WLUG meeting is this evening ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter (http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter) I would like to announce to all members that the WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting (http://www.wlug.org.nz/AGM) on Monday, 26 September, 2005, at 7pm, at the regular meeting location of room LitB] at the http://www.wlug.org.nz/University of Waikato ([WaikatoUniversity). New committee All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WlugCommittee for 2006. The charter currently specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and five general committee members. Because of the relatively large size of the committee compared to the organisation's membership, the outgoing committee intends to propose a change to the charter at the AGM. We wish to call for a vote on modifying Rule 7 to require only three general committee members, not five, and modifying Rule 6 such that the quorum for committee meetings is four, not five. To stand for the committee, please email secretary at wlug.org.nz (http://www.wlug.org.nz/mailto:secretary at wlug.org.nz). If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2004-2005, and signed a new membership form for '05-'06. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Remember to bring your survey code if you want to be in the draw to win the $100 Dick Smith Electronics voucher. Regards, CraigBox WLUG Secretary

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Devices, udev, device numbers
by Ian McDonald 23 Sep '05

23 Sep '05

Hi there, In the process of setting up webcams (and getting greatly frustrated) I have been using mknod to create device entries. This is something I'm not really familiar with and I have some questions. I am trying things at present and don't really know why I am typing stuff I find in Google! Questions: 1) How are major and minor device numbers assigned? e.g. a webpage will say type "mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0". I understand the syntax but why 81 and 0 for the major and minor numbers? 2) How do these devices you create interact with udev? Permissions and other things seem to disappear after a reboot. Should I be using udev instead of mknod? URLs to articles would be appreciated or just people's comments. I promise to Wiki what I find out as I have been doing for most of my discoveries... Ian

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WLUG Meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder bot 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

The WLUG meeting is on Monday ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter (http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter) I would like to announce to all members that the WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting (http://www.wlug.org.nz/AGM) on Monday, 26 September, 2005, at 7pm, at the regular meeting location of room LitB] at the http://www.wlug.org.nz/University of Waikato ([WaikatoUniversity). New committee All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WlugCommittee for 2006. The charter currently specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and five general committee members. Because of the relatively large size of the committee compared to the organisation's membership, the outgoing committee intends to propose a change to the charter at the AGM. We wish to call for a vote on modifying Rule 7 to require only three general committee members, not five, and modifying Rule 6 such that the quorum for committee meetings is four, not five. To stand for the committee, please email secretary at wlug.org.nz (http://www.wlug.org.nz/mailto:secretary at wlug.org.nz). If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2004-2005, and signed a new membership form for '05-'06. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Survey I would also like to announce the first annual WLUG survey, and the chance to win a $100 DickSmith Electronics voucher! All people associated with WLUG, paid members or not, are encouraged to fill out the survey at http://survey.wlug.org.nz/. No personal information is collected and all responses are totally anonymous. At the end of the survey you will be given a token; bring this to the AGM and sign up for the '05/'06 year, and you will be in to win the $100 voucher. Regards, CraigBox WLUG Secretary

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Happy SFD!
by Dave Waddling 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

Yes it's Software Freedom Day '05! In celebration of the event I wanted to let everyone know of the following link. ftp://ftp.lanux.com/pub/Suse/SUSE_9.3_PROF_i386_5CD_set/ As you may guess from the URL it is the full version of SUSE 9.3 Pro. The company providing this is a Canadian Company that says: " We are here to support the Linux community at large so if there are people that need the disks for "test and experimentation" they can have them under our extended license. " So enjoy, however I have been told that if the bandwidth goes too nuts they will may to cut it off. -- Dave Waddling ----------------- dave(a)waddling.com Skype davewaddling

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v4l question - /dev/video0
by Ian McDonald 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

Hi there, I'm trying to get a couple of webcams going in Linux. One is a firewire card and one is a USB. They are both loaded on my system and are partially usable (e.g. Firewire one works in Gnome Meeting). My question is how does /dev/video0 come into existence with video 4 linux (aka v4l)? I have tried using mknod and that can create it but it doesn't make it usable. I've hunted around the web heaps and not found much at all. Questions: - is there a magic step to create /dev/video0 automatically and I haven't set it up? - or is it that my drivers aren't really working well? Ian

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Committee nominations as at 19 Sep & survey cutoff
by Craig Box 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

Hi all, Current nominations for 2005-2006 committee =========================================== President DRUETT, Lindsay Vice President HALLETT, David Secretary BOX, Craig Treasurer MCDONALD, Ian General Committee Members: LORIER, Perry PERRONE, Gian PURVIS, Jon That's exactly the right number, but we can't have a very good election if we don't have any contention :) Survey closeoff =============== The survey will be closed on Sunday evening to allow for some statistics to be presented at the AGM. If you have not filled out the survey yet, please check it out before Sunday at http://survey.wlug.org.nz/. Regards, Craig

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802.11G Wireless Cardbus cards for sale
by Daniel Lawson 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

Hi, I recently acquired a bulk lot of brand new (shrinkwrapped) 802.11G Wireless cards through an auction. They caught my attention because the particular models were compatable with linux. They are DLink DWL-G630 cards, hardware revision D1, Firmware 4.10. They use the Atheros chipset, and are fairly easy to get to work in linux using a recent snapshot of the madwifi drivers. I'll provide some better notes on the wiki once I get time. I've got 5 for sale. I also have a pair of DLink DWL-G650+ cards, which I believe have an ACX chipset. Last time I tried to make an ACX chipset card work in linux, it didn't like me very much, but I've heard good things about getting the DWL-G650+ to work with the driver available from acx.sourceforge.net. They'll work fine in windows. If you'd like one of these, mail me offlist. Asking price is $35, and I can provide some limited support for getting them working. http://www.wlug.org.nz/GarageSale Daniel

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Debian stable/unstable.
by Oliver Jones 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

Hi folks. I'm just trying to find out what peoples feelings are with regard to the testing & unstable branches of Debian. I've added testing to my deb and deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list. Mainly because I wanted a newer version of a package I use. I'd like to know A) if this is advisable B) if going all the way to unstable is advisable. What are the security patch repercussions? Regards -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com

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WLUG Meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder bot 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter (http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter) I would like to announce to all members that the WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting (http://www.wlug.org.nz/AGM) on Monday, 26 September, 2005, at 7pm, at the regular meeting location of room LitB] at the http://www.wlug.org.nz/University of Waikato ([WaikatoUniversity). New committee All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WlugCommittee for 2006. The charter currently specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and five general committee members. Because of the relatively large size of the committee compared to the organisation's membership, the outgoing committee intends to propose a change to the charter at the AGM. We wish to call for a vote on modifying Rule 7 to require only three general committee members, not five, and modifying Rule 6 such that the quorum for committee meetings is four, not five. To stand for the committee, please email secretary at wlug.org.nz (http://www.wlug.org.nz/mailto:secretary at wlug.org.nz). If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2004-2005, and signed a new membership form for '05-'06. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Survey I would also like to announce the first annual WLUG survey, and the chance to win a $100 DickSmith Electronics voucher! All people associated with WLUG, paid members or not, are encouraged to fill out the survey at http://survey.wlug.org.nz/. No personal information is collected and all responses are totally anonymous. At the end of the survey you will be given a token; bring this to the AGM and sign up for the '05/'06 year, and you will be in to win the $100 voucher. Regards, CraigBox WLUG Secretary

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu said "Ack!!"
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Thanks I get a couple of days off when I get to Florida so will read up then Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > --- jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > > Hey all > > I had a problem with the "simple" install of > > Ubuntu > > Hoary which I thought was due to me not paying > > attention to > > the partitioning thus not including a swap space. > > However I retried the install and paid > > attention to > > what happened. Almost at the end of an otherwise > > uneventful > > install the programme said: > > Would suggest you start again with a clean slate. Use > Knoppix and QtParted to wipe current data and to > create a swap partition. I have just put up a HowTo @ > http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuKbuntuInstall > > HTH > Bill > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Debian tips
by Oliver Jones 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi people. I've just leased a Debian server from Server Beach. I've managed to upgrade it from 3.0 to 3.1 and install a few apps I want to play with. However I'm a recovering RedHat user and therefore very green when it comes to Debian. ;) I would appreciate any sage advice/tips to help me transition from people (Daniel?, Perry?) who've made the switch before. Thanks. -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com

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Ubuntu said "Ack!!"
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hey all I had a problem with the "simple" install of Ubuntu Hoary which I thought was due to me not paying attention to the partitioning thus not including a swap space. However I retried the install and paid attention to what happened. Almost at the end of an otherwise uneventful install the programme said: "Ack! something bad happened trying to recover". Sadly ths was not the case much custard was developed. I guess this is a (no cay)nown problem but i did not read about it yet in my limited experience. Regards John

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Announcing the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger)
by Craig Box 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

I will have a copy of this very soon if anyone is interested and doesn't want to download it themselves. -- Craig The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 - codenamed "Breezy Badger". The Preview Release includes both Install CDs and bootable Live CDs for three architectures. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages installed by default, every other package you can imagine available from the network, a commitment to security updates for 18 months after each release and professional technical support from many companies around the world. To Get Ubuntu 5.10 Preview -------------------------- Download Ubuntu 5.10 Preview here (choose the mirror closest to you): United States: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ Europe: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ United Kingdom: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ Rest of the World: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ Please download using Bittorrent if possible. The final version of Ubuntu 5.10 is expected to be released in October. At that time, we will mail pressed CDs free of charge. To receive a complimentary copy of the Official Breezy Badger CD -- or a handful of them to give to your friends, your school or LUG -- place your request at the URL below. Remember that these CDs won't ship until after the final release in October. http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ About Ubuntu 5.10 Preview ------------------------- To see it all, you'll need to try the CD, but the highlights include: On the Desktop * GNOME 2.12 -- Very fresh... Released yesterday!! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 beta 2 * X.org 6.8.2 with wider hardware support * An enhanced tool for easily installing new applications (see "Add/Remove Programs" in the System Administration menu) * A new tool which makes it easy to install support for multiple languages (Language Selector) * Editable GNOME menus * Applications are now linked into the Launchpad infrastructure (new entries on the Help menus for translation and support) * Support for writing audio CDs (Serpentine) * Graphical boot process with progress bar (USplash) On the Server * PHP5 * Support for installing directly onto LVM volumes * Built-in thin client functionality produced in cooperation with the LTSP project (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto) * Simple NFS root setup with automatic hardware detection through initramfs-tools * Support for up to 4 gigabytes of RAM by default on 32-bit architectures * Kernel support for cluster filesystems (OCFS2 and GFS) Hardware Support Improvements * Linux 2.6.12.5 with many updated drivers from third parties * Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys, and working suspend/resume on more models) * HP all-in-one printer/scanner devices are supported out of the box * Bluetooth input devices (such as keyboards and mice) are supported out of the box * Multiple audio devices are handled more gracefully (and one can easily select the default device) * 64-bit PowerPC kernel available Installation * A new OEM mode to simplify the process of preinstalling Ubuntu on computers for resale or redistribution * Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available to the desktop * Simple "dual boot" configuration with automatic resizing of an existing installed OS * The second stage of the installation now has a progress bar "Under the hood" * GCC 4.0.1 * glibc 2.3.5 * New early userspace infrastructure based on initramfs-tools * More modular X.org packaging As always, Ubuntu includes the very best of the 100% FREE / LIBRE application software world, and each new release incorporates countless new features and bugfixes from the global development community. Feedback and Helping -------------------- If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/ Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this Preview into the best release of Ubuntu ever. Please report bugs through Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ More Information ---------------- You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our website, IRC channel and wiki. If you're new to Ubuntu, please visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/ To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce

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