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Beta version of Google Earth now available
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060613-7041.html http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

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Dapper distro (64bit)
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi All, I successfully downloaded and installed the new Ubuntu Dapper and have so far managed to get some of my media(Mpeg and wmv) to work plus flash player. However when I try to play a DVD it suggests I may not have permission. In properties it is a root only file so how do I change this please? Regards John

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MySQL database
by Chris O'Halloran 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

Hello, I tried upgrading Kubuntu Breezy to Dapper using the "alternative CD" It didn't work particulary well and so I looked at kubuntu.org for information on what to do. The upshot is, in the words of the website, that I have "hosed" my Kubuntu install. Naturally enough I didn't do a backup before had because everything that I had done with Kubuntu in the past had worked fine. I have Suse10 installed on other partitions and I can happily see my kubuntu partitions so the file systems aren't corrupt, its just that Kubuntu won't boot anymore. I'll happily resign myself to a fresh install of Kubuntu Dapper except the only data I don't know how to retrieve is information stored in my phpwiki that relies on MySQL for the content storage. I'd forgotten I had it on my machine but now that I have remembered it I'd really like it back. Is my data recoverable from MySQL? I don't mind if I have to cut and paste everything back into the wiki. It doesn' contain heaps of data but it does contain some techobabble gems and I would like to recover them if possible. Is it doomed?

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Soundcards
by Chris O'Halloran 10 Jun '06

10 Jun '06

Hello, I was wondering if people might care to comment on their experiences with soundcards and linux support. I have a Pentium III Coppermine on a motherboard with an onboard sound card. lspci> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 21) To date the sound card has worked fine playing ogg files and mp3's. However, where it seems to struggle is with programs like Skype and Openwengo, two VOIP applications. I believe it has something to do with operating in full duplex ie it can't record and play at the same time (I don't have Windows to test this theory) and/or the state of Alsa support for the card is such hardware mixing (which I don't think the card supports) is the only viable option for using these programs I was wondering if people might be able to recommend a PCI sound card that is well supported by/for Linux.

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On Mon June 26, the date of our next meeting,
by Craig Box 10 Jun '06

10 Jun '06

...the WLUG wiki turns four years old. http://www.wlug.org.nz/WikiHistory Any suggestions on how we should commemorate this event? :) Craig

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(no subject)
by Joshua M. Goodwin 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

Hi guys, I'm trying to update to Dapper from Kubuntu. I have updated my sources.list as root, replacing "Breezy" with "dapper". I get the following errors.... Building dependency tree... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _dapper Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fdapper%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _dapper Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) dapper/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fdapper%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_dapper_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Help!

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Re: [wlug] Wlug WIKI
by David Nicholls 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Errrm, just as a heads up... I have access to an A0 poster printer (I help maintain it). If cheap printing of banners is what you are after... Email me off list to talk turkey so to speak anyway - the printer is up in the school of science (where I notice you guys posed for that lovely photo) :) Cheers... david > > It's back up now. > > Also, we now have one of these... http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugBanner > > Craig > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Fonts.
by Oliver Jones 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

OK.. My bad. It seems last time I twiddled with "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" I turned on "Autohinting". Bad idea. It makes things fugly. Native is a much better idea. Regards

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Ubuntu documentation
by Craig Box 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

There are many reasons that WLUG recommend Ubuntu as a distribution for new and experiences Linux users alike. The one I'd like to point out today is the excellent documentation that is available. http://help.ubuntu.com/ has PDF and HTML versions of guidebooks for the new 6.06 release, covering all variants (GNOME, KDE, XFCE), as well as Ubuntu Server and packaging. The documentation is available under the GNU Free Documentation License, so you can download it and print it yourself, as well as distribute it freely. A company called Lulu are making printed versions available by money-and-postage (http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc) but I imagine shipping to New Zealand would be prohibitive. If enough people are interested, WLUG could investigate having some copies printed and bound, and made available to members at cost. Craig

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Open Office
by Joshua M. Goodwin 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

To the WLUG, Howdy! Here's my first question. (BTW I am a novice Linux/ubuntu user -- dual boot and work with Windows networks) I am a Domain Admin trying to access Windows shares ( I have full access). That works fine. I've been using OpenOffice to open Microsoft documents, edit them, and save changes. This has worked fine for 2 weeks. Now, when I try to open these documents, the OpenOffice program starts launching, but never opens the document (or OpenOffice itself). This just started happening today, so it seems like a freak occurence. Some help would be great. Hohua (aka Josh) tech(a)iblp.org.nz

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Ubuntu 6.06 fonts
by Oliver Jones 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Has anyone else noticed in Ubuntu 6.06 that their fonts are all foo. As in rendering all weird and ugly. Especially in Firefox & Thunderbird. Regards

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List admin request: Off-list replies
by Craig Box 05 Jun '06

05 Jun '06

A comment based on this mornings discussion: If something in an e-mail doesn't work for you, it's probably better to send a reply to the sender directly (off-list). This means the person can correct the link or solve the problem, without sending a discussion to all the subscribers that, by the time they get the messages, has become irrelevant. Craig

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cdrecord with Ubuntu 6.06 won't write cd Can anybody help?
by Ron Dean 05 Jun '06

05 Jun '06

This is the error message I get ron(a)ubuntu:~$ cdrecord -v /home/ron/Desktop/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Joerg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to <cdrtools(a)packages.debian.org>. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.15-23-386 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '/dev/cdrw' devname: '/dev/cdrw' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? : Operation not permitted Using libscg version 'debian-0.8debian2'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (debian-0.8debian2 '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'PIONEER ' Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-110D' Revision : '1.37' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x0009 Profile: 0x002B Profile: 0x001B Profile: 0x001A Profile: 0x0016 Profile: 0x0015 Profile: 0x0014 Profile: 0x0013 Profile: 0x0011 Profile: 0x0010 Profile: 0x000A Profile: 0x0009 (current) Profile: 0x0008 cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code. cdrecord: See /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.DVD.Debian for details on DVD support. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1267712 = 1238 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 697 MB Total size: 801 MB (79:23.98) = 357299 sectors Lout start: 801 MB (79:25/74) = 357299 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71) Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 2547 Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? : Operation not permitted Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 40 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 0 of 697 MB written.cdrecord: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 0E 13 00 00 0E 26 09 30 FE 08 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x01 (logical unit communication time-out) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 236126208 (not valid) resid: 63488 cmd finished after 2.085s timeout 40s write track data: error after 0 bytes cdrecord: A write error occured. cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. Writing time: 19.883s Average write speed 654.9x. Fixating... cdrecord: Success. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x64 Qual 0x00 (illegal mode for this track) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.006s timeout 480s cmd finished after 0.006s timeout 480s cdrecord: Cannot fixate disk. Fixating time: 2.016s cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. ron(a)ubuntu:~$

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Wlug WIKI
by Daniel Lawson 03 Jun '06

03 Jun '06

Just a heads up to anyone who hasn't worked it out: the wiki, and hoiho itself, is currently offline. No update on what is wrong with it as yet.

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Stop - Dapper time!
by Craig Box 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

It's here. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html There are 9 ISOs in total (three architectures, three types of CD; desktop (live CD), server and 'alternate install', which I believe is the original text mode install CD). I suspect someone might like to arrange a NZ mirror? Craig

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Warren Hughes (IBM) is out of the office.
by Warren Hughes 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

I will be out of the office starting 01/06/2006 and will not return until 02/06/2006. Hi, thanks for your email. I am away on sick leave. I will be checking my email occassionally while away. I will now be back at work on Friday. Cheers, Warren.

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Openfiler
by Chris O'Halloran 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Some discussions have come about adding another server to reduce the pressure on our existing server. I don't generally make any of the decisions regarding our computer network but a suggestion was made regarding a program/server/technology called openfiler. Given that I am the known open source advocate around here, the question was asked, what did I know about it and did anyone in the wlug have any experience of using it. I assumed it was a software package but its seems is a customized version of a Ret Hat derivate CentOS. http://www.openfiler.org Having a Linux server on the network would definitely be a foot in the door for Linux based software within our company but it would good if the first experience within the company was positive and straightforward. Any comments or does openfiler provide a nice gui install for setting up a network server that could also be acheived using other modern distro? Cheers Chris

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Picasa on Ubuntu.
by Oliver Jones 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

I downloaded Picasa for Ubuntu. It works really well. Props to Google. Now if they just made it Open Source. Regards

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 May '06

31 May '06

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Warren Hughes (IBM) is out of the office.
by Warren Hughes 31 May '06

31 May '06

I will be out of the office starting 31/05/2006 and will not return until 01/06/2006. Hi, thanks for your email. I am away on sick leave. I will be checking my email occassionally while away. I hope to be back at work tomorrow (Thursday). Cheers, Warren.

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Re: [wlug] Graphics SiS
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 May '06

28 May '06

Hmmn! Negative outcome, not good. *waits for Dapper* John > > Sounds like you are out of luck :-( > > -- > Ian McDonald > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 > Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com > WAND Network Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Waikato > New Zealand > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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what does a good e-mail client need ?
by Gavin Denby 27 May '06

27 May '06

I was reading the cnet article on the need for a mail client to push forward DESKTOP LINUX *E-mail will be the most significant factor governing the uptake of Linux on the desktop, according to a new study. * The Desktop Linux Client Survey 2005, released this week by the Open Source Development Labs, found that the lack of a powerful e-mail application could hinder the adoption of Linux on the desktop. Full story here: http://news.com.com/E-mail+crucial+to+future+of+desktop+Linux/2100-7344_3-5… What I wondered was what does an enterprise e-mail client do that's different from my thunderbird. Is it just the calender? is it notes. I have tried, and hated outlook, probably as I use just e-mail and dont like the complexity of all the other things, but what would happen in an enterprise situation. If you understand this article, can you explain what the novell and mozilla offerings will mean, and will this be the outlook killer. What does outlook do that so vital? Is this another case of its not the same, or are we really missing out on something? any enterprise experince that can help a tech like me understand this ? Is there a really good app for this, could something be done to solve this. After all e-mail is the number 1 app for the net, search is 2 and then web surfing. 2 and 3 are fine, are we missing the boat on 1? I thinks its sufficiently linux related. do we have the Guru's in the lug that could solve this?

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Google Picasa (picture organiser) now available for Linux
by Ian McDonald 26 May '06

26 May '06

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/picture-this-picasa-for-linux.html -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Graphics SiS
by Ron Dean 26 May '06

26 May '06

http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml I found this site that may help but I still haven't got 3D

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Re: [wlug] Graphics
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 May '06

26 May '06

This is the output from my lspci also. I too am keen to see a resolve for this. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > This is the output lspci 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible > controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741 > /760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Graphics
by Ron Dean 25 May '06

25 May '06

This is the output lspci 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741 /760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter

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Making 3D drivers work
by Ron Dean 25 May '06

25 May '06

On the cd that came with my motherboard with on board graphics is a linux driver sisdrv_430_20040604.o which I have no idea how to install the mother board is an A7S8X-MX . It already works with 2D graphics . I am running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - the Dapper Drake

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A bash question
by Leslie Katz 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hi again Aristotle. All is, I believe, now resolved. Your latest script didn't work as you'd intended. Each time xmms finished its chore, it sat there without closing. As there were two wma test files to be converted, that meant that xmms had to be closed twice manually before the script finished. (When, however, the script was helped in that way, it ultimately produced two perfect mp3 test files.) I don't know that I'm expressing this properly, but what I had found by trial and error with my script was that the "xmmsctrl quit" command didn't seem to do anything unless there'd been an antecedent "xmmsctrl launch" command; it wasn't enough merely to have earlier started xmms by typing its own name, followed by a reference to a file to be played. When I added to your latest script, immediately before the line "xmms "$src"", the line "xmmsctrl launch", then the script ran from beginning to end without interruption, with xmms opening and closing at the appropriate points. At the same time, by running and rerunning the script and checking the results, I found that the script didn't do its job properly if, when it ran, there was already in the .xmms directory a file called xmms.m3u, which, as I understand it, is a playlist file. I therefore added to the line "xmmsctrl launch" the word "clear" and that put an end to that problem, although if with any potential adverse consequences, I'm not now aware. You asked me whether I had MPlayer. The answer's no. I'm doing all this on an ancient laptop running DSL. I tried to get MPlayer to run on it, but it wouldn't for some reason I can't now remember. In any event, even if it would, it'd be very cramped, given the ancient laptop's specifications. You also raised the issue of changing the script so that it would convert other audio file formats as well. I believe I understand how that could be done, but the circumstances in which I'm struggling with all this are peculiar. I gave the laptop to the son of friends and he's the one who asks me for things he wants to be able to do. I then try to work out (or, to be more accurate, try to get others to work out!) how to do them. The only kind of file he says he wants to convert to mp3 is wma, so, at least for now, the script can be used as it is. My warmest thanks for all the help you've given me with this. Best wishes, Leslie

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slmodem problem
by Xiao Wong 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi I'm currently having a problem with connecting to my ISP. I'm not sure if it's a setup problem or a protocal problem--I thought I had set up my modem and driver, but when it connects from the terminal (just after it's sending my password), this type of message comes up: --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. --> Starting pppd at Mon May 15 18:19:03 2006 --> pid of pppd: 4635 --> Using interface ppp0 --> Disconnecting at Mon May 15 18:19:34 2006 --> The PPP daemon has died: PPP negotiation failed (exit code = 10) --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. --> I guess that's it for now, exiting --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 10) Any help for this new Linux user would be appreciated, Xiao _________________________________________________________________ Need a new job? Check out XtraMSN Careers http://xtramsn.co.nz/careers

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A bash question
by Leslie Katz 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi Aristotle. It was very generous of you to take so much time over "my" script, which, as I mentioned earlier, was almost entirely a mere cobbling together by me of bits and pieces which I'd taken from others. Given that you'd created an alternative script, I took the liberty of trying it out. Having saved it and made it executable by all, I then tried to run it in a terminal window. The directory in which I was when I did so contained two .wma files, Beethoven1.wma, which was a re-named file I'd copied over from my Windows computer, and Beethoven2.wma, which was just a copy of Beethoven1.wma, created so that I could test what happened when I tried to convert multiple files from wma to mp3. This is what happened. I got the following output: "Beethoven1.wma => Beethoven1.wma.wav Could not find "Beethoven1.wma.wav". Beethoven2.wma => Beethoven2.wma.wav" and then the graphical representation of the xmms player appeared on the screen, without any activity being apparent. After some time when nothing had happened, I tried to close that representation, but its close box wouldn't respond. I then closed the terminal window, upon which the xmms window closed too. I then opened xmms and checked the output plugin situation. I found that the output plugin was Disk Writer, which I'd expected, since the script hadn't had the chance to restore the OSS plugin. If what I've reported above suggests to you some tiny glitch in your script and you don't feel that you've spent too much time on it already, I'd be grateful to hear what amendment should be made to it. Best wishes, Leslie

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A bash question
by Leslie Katz 23 May '06

23 May '06

Thank you to all those who took the trouble to reply to my post. Further consideration convinced me that I needed an application additional to xmms to do what I ultimately wanted to do. (What I ultimately wanted to do was to be able to convert files in .wma format to .mp3 format.) That additional application was xmmsctrl and it worked to close xmms. The script I was working on is now in the following form and does do the necessary conversion: #### #!/bin/bash sed -i "s/libOSS.so/libdisk_writer.so/g" ~/.xmms/config for i in *.wma do filename=`basename "$i" .wma` echo "Converting $i to .wav" xmmsctrl launch xmms "$i" while `xmmsctrl playing`; do sleep 1 done xmmsctrl quit lame "${i/wma/wav}" "${i/wma/mp3}" && rm -f ${i/wma/wav} done sed -i "s/libdisk_writer.so/libOSS.so/g" ~/.xmms/config #### Everything of any worth in the script has been derived from others, but I'm sure that the way in which I've put those things together breaks most, if not all, the rules about correct script writing. At least the script works (for now!). Thanks again, Leslie

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Hello, and help needed
by Sidd 23 May '06

23 May '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, To introduce myself; I am new to this list and am just trying to get a handle on Linux. I have lived in Hamilton for 6 years, and currently live in Tamahere. I am an IT professional who has always worked with windows, so this is somewhat of a challenge, and I need to make fairly quick progress. Is there anyone here who would be willing to get together with me and give me a bit of a quick start. I have an old server I am trying to set up with Linux, but I am experiencing hardware issues that are beyond me. I would be willing to pay someone for his/her time if necessary. Cheers, Sidd. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GnuPG v1.4.0 iD8DBQFEcp/DvSQLmqPuBSMRAtV3AKDup8okTlaItxyzf0gOxZdZGSlLvACg+BaO ZLNCWj101NQCQmxHiolcD5Q= =Umbk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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A bash question
by Leslie Katz 22 May '06

22 May '06

I have an icon for xmms on my desktop. I click on the icon; xmms opens in its own little window. I open a terminal. I type in it kill -9 $(pidof xmms) and press Enter. The xmms window closes. I have a bash script. A line in it runs xmms, at which point xmms's little window opens and converts a .wma file to a .wav file. The next line in the script says kill -9 $(pidof xmms), but it doesn't work to close the xmms window. That window stays open until I click on the close box in the top right of the window. Why doesn't the kill command work in the second case when it works in the first?

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Re: [wlug] Broadcom wlan + Ubuntu
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 22 May '06

22 May '06

DSE did not tell me that it would work they said that it should, if not right now then at a future time when the firmware became available. You probably can still get the wireless to work by using a card (maybe dse would help you with that, saves them getting a whole computer back) until the new version is on stream. Another alternative might be to take your machine to the meeting there are tons of lan experts to give you help.. > > I should have done some homework before I signed the > dotted line, although I am going to use the 14 day return > to get this steamer back to where it belongs. Im not so > pissed at the laptop not being up to scratch, its more > that I was told it *would* fit the criteria I set out. Up > till now I had thought DSE were better than this. >

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Re: [wlug] Broadcom wlan + Ubuntu
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 22 May '06

22 May '06

Shane Take your machine to the workshop if you cannot get it fixed after the meeting. There are some dodges for the broadcom wlan I am just not clever enough to sort it yet. Let me know what happens Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > I should have done some homework before I signed the > dotted line, although I am going to use the 14 day return > to get this steamer back to where it belongs. Im not so > pissed at the laptop not being up to scratch, its more > that I was told it *would* fit the criteria I set out. Up > till now I had thought DSE were better than this. > > Shane > > ps. oops sent that direct instead of to the list, grr I > want my kmail back! > > > On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 13:36 +1200, jaytee(a)clear.net.nz > > > wrote: I had a similar drama with my laptop and > > > broadcom wlan. After trying a howto off the web and > > > seeking advice on this list I have elected to wait for > > > the final of dapper drake to come on stream before > > > attempting to get my wlan going. Not much help I guess > > > but that is all I have. If it helps you can research > > > the thread "AMD64 wifi" to see where I got to. Regards > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > > Ive just bought a new laptop. I specifically asked > > > > the guy at Dick Smith for one that had no hardware > > > > issues re: Linux, I asked him 3 times about the > > > > wireless (thats what I really wanted) and he said > > > > not a prob So as you can guess I spent the better > > > > part of last night and today trying to get wireless > > > > working on my ubuntu Its an Asus laptop with a > > > > broadcom wireless, I have been bashing my head > > > > against the desk following tutorials on ndiswrapper > > > > to no avail. Before I lose my rag with the guy at > Tricky Dickys, has anyone succeeded with said chipset? > > > > Have I borked something? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I installed kubuntu-desktop and kde does *not* > > > > like the lcd for some reason, if I launch an app all > > > > is fine, until I move or close the window. Then I > > > > am left with a screen of .... for want of a better > > > > word.. crap. I have a screenshot at > > > > http://shanes.dyndns.org/screenshot1.png > > > > > > > > One final thing.. I cant get dvd's to play, I have > > > > mpegs playing fine, the dvd is mounted ok, and the > > > > files are readable just nothing will play them, not > > > > totem, not mplayer. Windows is having no troubles. > > > > So its not a hardware issue. > > > > > > > > </gripe> > > > > Any help appreciated > > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 May '06

21 May '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A speaker has been tentatively booked... More details coming...

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 May '06

21 May '06

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our guest for April is Buddika Aluwihare from http://www.wlug.org.nz/HP who will be speaking on HP Reference Linux Architecture. HP Reference Linux Architecture appears to be about standardising middleware stacks and providing support for that also so that HP can provide support for the hardware, Linux and the middleware. Location is TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) at the University of Waikato. Meeting will start at 7:30pm.

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Re: [wlug] Broadcom wlan + Ubuntu
by Shane 21 May '06

21 May '06

I should have done some homework before I signed the dotted line, although I am going to use the 14 day return to get this steamer back to where it belongs. Im not so pissed at the laptop not being up to scratch, its more that I was told it *would* fit the criteria I set out. Up till now I had thought DSE were better than this. Shane ps. oops sent that direct instead of to the list, grr I want my kmail back! > On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 13:36 +1200, jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > I had a similar drama with my laptop and broadcom wlan. > > After trying a howto off the web and seeking advice on this > > list I have elected to wait for the final of dapper drake to > > come on stream before attempting to get my wlan going. Not > > much help I guess but that is all I have. If it helps you > > can research the thread "AMD64 wifi" to see where I got to. > > Regards John > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > Ive just bought a new laptop. I specifically asked the > > > guy at Dick Smith for one that had no hardware issues re: > > > Linux, I asked him 3 times about the wireless (thats what > > > I really wanted) and he said not a prob So as you can > > > guess I spent the better part of last night and today > > > trying to get wireless working on my ubuntu Its an Asus > > > laptop with a broadcom wireless, I have been bashing my > > > head against the desk following tutorials on ndiswrapper > > > to no avail. Before I lose my rag with the guy at Tricky > > > Dickys, has anyone succeeded with said chipset? Have I > > > borked something? > > > > > > > > > Also, I installed kubuntu-desktop and kde does *not* like > > > the lcd for some reason, if I launch an app all is fine, > > > until I move or close the window. Then I am left with a > > > screen of .... for want of a better word.. crap. > > > I have a screenshot at > > > http://shanes.dyndns.org/screenshot1.png > > > > > > One final thing.. I cant get dvd's to play, I have mpegs > > > playing fine, the dvd is mounted ok, and the files are > > > readable just nothing will play them, not totem, not > > > mplayer. Windows is having no troubles. So its not a > > > hardware issue. > > > > > > </gripe> > > > Any help appreciated > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Broadcom wlan + Ubuntu
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 21 May '06

21 May '06

I had a similar drama with my laptop and broadcom wlan. After trying a howto off the web and seeking advice on this list I have elected to wait for the final of dapper drake to come on stream before attempting to get my wlan going. Not much help I guess but that is all I have. If it helps you can research the thread "AMD64 wifi" to see where I got to. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Ive just bought a new laptop. I specifically asked the > guy at Dick Smith for one that had no hardware issues re: > Linux, I asked him 3 times about the wireless (thats what > I really wanted) and he said not a prob So as you can > guess I spent the better part of last night and today > trying to get wireless working on my ubuntu Its an Asus > laptop with a broadcom wireless, I have been bashing my > head against the desk following tutorials on ndiswrapper > to no avail. Before I lose my rag with the guy at Tricky > Dickys, has anyone succeeded with said chipset? Have I > borked something? > > > Also, I installed kubuntu-desktop and kde does *not* like > the lcd for some reason, if I launch an app all is fine, > until I move or close the window. Then I am left with a > screen of .... for want of a better word.. crap. > I have a screenshot at > http://shanes.dyndns.org/screenshot1.png > > One final thing.. I cant get dvd's to play, I have mpegs > playing fine, the dvd is mounted ok, and the files are > readable just nothing will play them, not totem, not > mplayer. Windows is having no troubles. So its not a > hardware issue. > > </gripe> > Any help appreciated > > Shane > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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[Fwd: Your confirmation is required to leave the wlug mailing list]
by Michael J Knox 21 May '06

21 May '06

This is nice. because I have a differing opinion on the use non-free and non-oss, I get removed (or someone attempted too) from the mailing list? Michael -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Your confirmation is required to leave the wlug mailing list Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:32:58 +1200 From: wlug-confirm+ad47a6fbcd1b7a71eb577fbff08ab6504ebebbd8(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Reply-To: wlug-confirm+ad47a6fbcd1b7a71eb577fbff08ab6504ebebbd8(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To: michael(a)knox.net.nz Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list wlug We have received a request for the removal of your email address, "michael(a)knox.net.nz" from the wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailing list. To confirm that you want to be removed from this mailing list, simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact. Or visit this web page: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/confirm/wlug/ad47a6fbcd1b7a71eb577fbff08a… Or include the following line -- and only the following line -- in a message to wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz: confirm ad47a6fbcd1b7a71eb577fbff08ab6504ebebbd8 Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from most mail readers, since that usually leaves the Subject: line in the right form (additional "Re:" text in the Subject: is okay). If you do not wish to be removed from this list, please simply disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously removed from the list, or have any other questions, send them to wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz.

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Sun open-sourcing Java (slowly...)
by Ian McDonald 20 May '06

20 May '06

Have a look at this if you are interested: http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6072760.html?part=rss&tag=6072760&subj=news -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Fedora Core 5 problems?
by Michael McDonald 19 May '06

19 May '06

Recently I upgraded to Fedora Core 5. Some things I like, some I don't, but that's usual when you have an OS upgrade (or replacement). This time around, there seems to be a few more problems. First problem was with yum and updates. pup (software updater) wouldn't run. Solution to that was in the FAQ - a replacement yum.conf file. Yum Extender did work, but there was a fair bit of guessing as to which repositories to use (I'm not a Linux expert!). Following software updates I did on Wednesday, cups refused to start (cups was among the updates). Remote assistance from a family member (he likes puzzles!) gave me a work around - involved changing ownership of files and changes to cupsd.conf, and then running cupsd in foreground. Adobe Reader no longer runs - but I haven't bothered to chase that one up as there are alternatives. Anyway, I'm not asking for assistance. Just want to know if anyone else has run into these problems. I couldn't find anything on the Net. Any comments? I'm tempted to try Ubuntu 6.06 in the near future. Michael

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Live CD for editing disk partitions
by Ian McDonald 18 May '06

18 May '06

Folks, There's an interesting read here about GPartEd and also a distribution based on this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/25/1917228 Looks really handy to have around. Also in a similar vein if you are looking to do this sort of stuff is Partition Logic which is not based on Linux but another OS... http://partitionlogic.org.uk/ Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 May '06

18 May '06

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our guest for April is Buddika Aluwihare from http://www.wlug.org.nz/HP who will be speaking on HP Reference Linux Architecture. HP Reference Linux Architecture appears to be about standardising middleware stacks and providing support for that also so that HP can provide support for the hardware, Linux and the middleware. Location is TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) at the University of Waikato. Meeting will start at 7:30pm.

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movsl alignment
by Glenn Enright 17 May '06

17 May '06

Can anyone help with the relation between assembler command 'movsl' and alignment. All I've been able to find so far is much general stuff in kernel patches about bulk memory moves. -- This fortune is inoperative. Please try another.

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 17 May '06

17 May '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our guest for April is Buddika Aluwihare from http://www.wlug.org.nz/HP who will be speaking on HP Reference Linux Architecture. Location is TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) at the University of Waikato. Meeting will start at 7:30pm.

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Warren Hughes (IBM) is out of the office.
by Warren Hughes 17 May '06

17 May '06

I will be out of the office starting 17/05/2006 and will not return until 22/05/2006. Hi, thanks for your email. I am in Sydney, back in Auckland on Monday 22/5. I will be checking my email while away. Cheers, Warren.

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New Zealand Ubuntu LoCo
by Daniel Faulknor (Ubuntu NZ) 15 May '06

15 May '06

Calling all New Zealand Ubuntu Users! There is now a New Zealand Ubuntu LoCo - A LoCo is a group of people that are interested in promoting and supporting ubuntu in our area. We are following the standard form for Ubuntu LoCos. We have a wiki and forum setup for our members to work together/on Any people that have any interest in ubunu are welcome to join - you dont have to run ubuntu to help out with things to do with the group. We have a IRC channel on freenode.net - irc://chat.freenode.net/#ubuntu-nz1 which is a place for members to gather and talk. Our wiki page on ubuntu.com is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NzTeam Our wiki is at http://ubuntu-nz.org and our forum at http://ubuntu-nz.org/forum If anyone has any queries or suggestion feel free to contact me. -- Daniel Faulknor Personal: http://dannz.net.nz Work: http://services.dannz.net

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Re: [wlug] movsl alignment
by Matthew Browne (DSL HN) 15 May '06

15 May '06

> From: Perry Lorier [mailto:perry(a)coders.net] > > Ah, I remember the good ol' days of doing this myself :) > Although documentation wasn't quite as free flowing as it is > these days. Well the internet has made things easier of course but I always found if you gave the manufacturer a call or a polite email asking for a databook they'd send some on their way to you. I haven't done it much in recent years but in the past chipmakers wouldn't even ask for the cost of shipping the books to NZ. I remember Intel's databook for the 8086, it even had a reference computer design in there that looked surprisingly like the original IBM PC. ;) Matt Browne

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