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Open source in 2008
by Ian McDonald 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Good article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090102-alook-back-at-the-open-source… I also share a reasonable amount of articles on Google Reader, rather than the list these days if anybody misses my postings... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Ethtool output
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Hi there everyone I eran ethtool on my amd machine and this is the output: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ sudo ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: d Current message level: 0x00000001 (1) Link detected: no glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ Since I have tried plugging the cable into another port on my switch, have tried changing ethernet cables, would it be correct to assume that the problem is faulty hardware? Glenn.

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Network Configuration
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

Hey all I have tried unplugging the network cable from the back of the machine and re-plugging it in, I have used a different port on my switch, which I have previously used and know it works well. Firts thing i did was ping 192.168.0.1 (my internet sharing machine), and was told that the network was unreachable. I have tried using a fixed ip address (192.168.0.5 and 255.255.255.0 subnet mask), still no joy. Network is unreachable. So, after this, I tried with the command sudo ethtool eth0, which returned with the output: glenn(a)glenn-amd1: [sudo] password for glenn: sudo:ethtool:command not found. glenn(a)glenn-amd1: This is the directory /etc/network glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ cd /etc glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc$ cd network glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ ls if-down.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d if-up.d interfaces glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ cat interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback I then tried removing the interfaces file, in the event that I could start over, but still no luck. when I run dhclient I get: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ sudo dhclient Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1 Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/pan0/92:93:61:a0:d3:80 Sending on LPF/pan0/92:93:61:a0:d3:80 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0d:87:35:aa:32 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0d:87:35:aa:32 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ Maybe I just have a faulty network adaptor on the motherboard. But if that was the case, wouldn't it NOT be displayed with lspci? Glenn.

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Media Player
by Andrew Crosby 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Hi i am trying to make a headless media player; it would be nice if it could do the following: Play headless have an HTML/Web interface for making and loading play lists be able to rip cds automatically be able to stream music to other devices be able to serve general files (samba) be able to be used by non Linux users (flatties) Ideas? Cheers Andrew

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Network settings
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Happy new year all I am trying to configure my network connection on my amd desktop machine, but it wont auto detect and there is no roaming mode (im running a newly installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid OS. I have the output from ifconfig: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0d:87:35:aa:32 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:23 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:250 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:250 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:15684 (15.6 KB) TX bytes:15684 (15.6 KB) pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 92:93:61:a0:d3:80 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ I also have the correct output line from lspci output: 00Ethernet Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) Am I right in thinking the Hwaddr in eth0 should be something like 192.168.0.x? If so, can anyone tell me where the file is in the system so that I can edit it with the correct settings. Thank you Glenn.

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Linux innovations of 2008
by Ian McDonald 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=great_linux_innovations_… -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Interesting package manager
by Ian McDonald 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Haven't heard of Nix before and sounds interesting concept: http://www.linux.com/feature/155922 (See on OSNews). Sounds a little Gentoo like as it implies it downloads and compiles the packages.. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Sun Provides 64-bit Java Plug-In For Linux
by cmoman 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjkyOQ Might be of interest.

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Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations
by Bruce Kingsbury 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Oh dear. Any [CiscoNut]s want to comment on this? Linz? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brett Smith <brett(a)fsf.org> Date: 2008/12/12 Subject: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org ## Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, December 11, 2008 -- The Free Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that it has filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Cisco. The FSF's complaint alleges that in the course of distributing various products under the Linksys brand Cisco has violated the licenses of many programs on which the FSF holds copyright, including GCC, binutils, and the GNU C Library. In doing so, Cisco has denied its users their right to share and modify the software. Most of these programs are licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL), and the rest are under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). Both these licenses encourage everyone, including companies like Cisco, to modify the software as they see fit and then share it with others, under certain conditions. One of those conditions says that anyone who redistributes the software must also provide their recipients with the source code to that program. The FSF has documented many instances where Cisco has distributed licensed software but failed to provide its customers with the corresponding source code. "Our licenses are designed to ensure that everyone who uses the software can change it," said Richard Stallman, president and founder of the FSF. "In order to exercise that right, people need the source code, and that's why our licenses require distributors to provide it. We are enforcing our licenses to protect the rights that everyone should have with all software: to use it, share it, and modify it as they see fit." "We began working with Cisco in 2003 to help them establish a process for complying with our software licenses, and the initial changes were very promising," explained Brett Smith, licensing compliance engineer at the FSF. "Unfortunately, they never put in the effort that was necessary to finish the process, and now five years later we have still not seen a plan for compliance. As a result, we believe that legal action is the best way to restore the rights we grant to all users of our software." "Free software developers entrust their copyrights to the FSF so we can make sure that their work is always redistributed in ways that respect user freedom," said Peter Brown, executive director of the FSF. "In the fifteen years we've spent enforcing our licenses, we've never gone to court before. We have always managed to get the companies we have worked with to take their obligations seriously. But at the end of the day, we're also willing to take the legal action necessary to ensure users have the rights that our licenses guarantee." The complaint was filed this morning in United States District Court for the Southern District of New York by the Software Freedom Law Center, which is providing representation to the FSF in this case. The case is number 08-CV-10764 and will be heard by Judge Paul G. Gardephe. A copy of the complaint is available at <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/complaint-2008-12-11.pdf>. ### About the FSF The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software, and its Web sites, located at fsf.org and gnu.org, are an important source of information about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at <http://donate.fsf.org>. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. ### About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) The GNU General Public License (GPL) is a license for software. When a program is released under its terms, every user will have the freedom to share and change it, no matter how they get it. The GPL is the most popular free software license in the world, used by almost three quarters of all free software packages. The FSF recently updated the license to address new concerns in the free software community; version 3 of the GPL (GPLv3) was released on June 29, 2007. ### About the GNU Operating System and Linux Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' freedom. See <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html>. In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html>. ### Media Contacts Brett Smith Licensing Compliance Engineer Free Software Foundation +1 (617) 542 5942 x18 <brett(a)fsf.org> ### _______________________________________________ info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Calender software
by Glenn Ramsey 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Hi, Does anyone know of software that will allow you to make a calender using your own pictures that can be printed out? I have searched a bit but the results are swamped by schedule/meeting type calender software. I am aware of a command line app that generates calenders in postscript that I used a while back but I can't remember a) what it was called and b) whether it could add a picture. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Getting broadband to work with a friends computer and my wired network in Ubuntu *.04
by Ron Dean 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Relevant output from dmesg 32.983930] 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28 [ 32.984043] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:05.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 32.984614] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:30:bd:b8:85:44, IRQ 16 [ 32.984618] eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' [ 32.991975] 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004) 57.927380] eth0: link down 143.296908] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:bd:b8:85:44 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:16 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) TX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) Don't know if this information is any help it wasn't connected at the time if anyone is able to suggest commands to see if he has the appropriate hardware. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations
by GJB 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Linksys (CISCO) has a long history of conflicted emotions over OSS. Sveasoft and OpenWRT and others have provided work around firmwares for Linksys products. Interesting FSF should be doing it now after such a long period of abuse, I wonder why? > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit > Against Cisco For GPL Violations > From: "Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> > Date: Fri, December 12, 2008 11:12 am > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > We'll see what Cisco comes up with but I think all the embedded router > people have an issue that work in the home market e.g. DLink, Linksys (which > is what this is about), etc. I know that I had to battle DLink to get code > out of them and until I threatened them with the GPL they wouldn't give it > to me. The thing is that the embedded market stands to gain a lot and they > should use it, rather than ignore it e.g. Nokia is going places with the > Maemo platform at present as they involve people, and Android is showing > potential also. > > I think Linksys will release code quickly. The far bigger vendor which has > got far more to lose on a case like this is VMWare - it seems almost certain > that they are running a Linux kernel and have modified it, but claim they > use modules in a way that doesn't break the GPL... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Oh dear. Any [CiscoNut]s want to comment on this? Linz? > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Brett Smith <brett(a)fsf.org> > > Date: 2008/12/12 > > Subject: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For > > GPL Violations > > To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org > > > > > > ## Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations > > > > BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, December 11, 2008 -- The Free > > Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that it has filed a > > copyright infringement lawsuit against Cisco. The FSF's complaint > > alleges that in the course of distributing various products under the > > Linksys brand Cisco has violated the licenses of many programs on > > which the FSF holds copyright, including GCC, binutils, and the GNU C > > Library. In doing so, Cisco has denied its users their right to share > > and modify the software. > > > > Most of these programs are licensed under the GNU General Public > > License (GPL), and the rest are under the GNU Lesser General Public > > License (LGPL). Both these licenses encourage everyone, including > > companies like Cisco, to modify the software as they see fit and then > > share it with others, under certain conditions. One of those > > conditions says that anyone who redistributes the software must also > > provide their recipients with the source code to that program. The > > FSF has documented many instances where Cisco has distributed licensed > > software but failed to provide its customers with the corresponding > > source code. > > > > "Our licenses are designed to ensure that everyone who uses the > > software can change it," said Richard Stallman, president and founder > > of the FSF. "In order to exercise that right, people need the source > > code, and that's why our licenses require distributors to provide it. > > We are enforcing our licenses to protect the rights that everyone > > should have with all software: to use it, share it, and modify it as > > they see fit." > > > > "We began working with Cisco in 2003 to help them establish a process > > for complying with our software licenses, and the initial changes were > > very promising," explained Brett Smith, licensing compliance engineer > > at the FSF. "Unfortunately, they never put in the effort that was > > necessary to finish the process, and now five years later we have > > still not seen a plan for compliance. As a result, we believe that > > legal action is the best way to restore the rights we grant to all > > users of our software." > > > > "Free software developers entrust their copyrights to the FSF so we > > can make sure that their work is always redistributed in ways that > > respect user freedom," said Peter Brown, executive director of the > > FSF. "In the fifteen years we've spent enforcing our licenses, we've > > never gone to court before. We have always managed to get the > > companies we have worked with to take their obligations seriously. But > > at the end of the day, we're also willing to take the legal action > > necessary to ensure users have the rights that our licenses > > guarantee." > > > > The complaint was filed this morning in United States District Court > > for the Southern District of New York by the Software Freedom Law > > Center, which is providing representation to the FSF in this case. > > The case is number 08-CV-10764 and will be heard by Judge Paul > > G. Gardephe. A copy of the complaint is available at > > <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/complaint-2008-12-11.pdf>. > > > > ### About the FSF > > > > The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to > > promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and > > redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and > > use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating > > system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free > > software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and > > political issues of freedom in the use of software, and its Web sites, > > located at fsf.org and gnu.org, are an important source of information > > about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at > > <http://donate.fsf.org>. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. > > > > ### About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) > > > > The GNU General Public License (GPL) is a license for software. When > > a program is released under its terms, every user will have the > > freedom to share and change it, no matter how they get it. The GPL is > > the most popular free software license in the world, used by almost > > three quarters of all free software packages. The FSF recently > > updated the license to address new concerns in the free software > > community; version 3 of the GPL (GPLv3) was released on June 29, 2007. > > > > ### About the GNU Operating System and Linux > > > > Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a > > free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only > > operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' > > freedom. See <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html>. > > > > In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for > > one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under > > the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux > > formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for > > the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination > > is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see > > <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html>. > > > > ### Media Contacts > > > > Brett Smith > > Licensing Compliance Engineer > > Free Software Foundation > > +1 (617) 542 5942 x18 > > <brett(a)fsf.org> > > > > ### > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf > > > > > > > > -- > > This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the > > intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one > > foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. > > The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the > > person who expressed them. > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz > Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is tomorrow!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

There is a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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Setting a linux computer to run only on the kernel that came with cd
by Ron Dean 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

I installed a win modem and have got it to work with ubuntu 8.04 however the driver only works with kernel 2.6.24-16-generic. How do I get it to boot up all the time with this kernel so that he doesn't need to make a choice from the grub boot menu where I have newer kernels installed. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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This years WLUG Xmas BBQ
by Bruce Kingsbury 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

This years WLUG Xmas BBQ is to be Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and PaulQuilty house. Saturday December 6th, 4pm Until everyones gone. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge MAP: http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ or http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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passwords
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

hey all I have a dell laptop (Inspiron 3200) running Ubuntu 5.10 (very well to I might add, not like the 64bit Ubuntu 8.04 on my acer). Anyhow, when I want to look at files on that machine via. LAN, I am presented with a password dialog box. When I enter my password that I use as admin on that machine, It tells me that the password is wrong. Can anyone tell me where in the the filesystem is the file that contains the passwords, that I can edit with GEDIT? Glenn

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Setting up a computer for a friend
by Ron Dean 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

We first got Puppy Linux to work off the cd . But he wants to run Ubuntu 8.10 However when we go to load it it defaults to the command line and we don't know what we are doing. What information do you need to help us and what commands should we try ? -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Dual-Seat Kids Computer PaulQuilty will present on configuring a linux box to enable dual workstations to run off a single box - allowing 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, each running a fully independant session. Effectively 2 computers running on one box.

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cups driver for dcp-115c
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

hi all Im trying to get my Brother DCP-115C multifunction printer to work under Linux ubuntu 8.04. Upon trying to get my DCP-115c to work, I have consulted the brother website: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html#2 It reccommends that users of the DCP-115c use the MFC-210C package, however, I cannot get the brother MFC-210C package to install' because when I do it comes up with the 'wrong architecture - i386' error message. Upon further reading of the page I read the following for AMD 64bit users: "For AMD64 bit users: Our CUPS drivers and CUPS wrapper drivers have been developed and optimised for 32 bit Linux distributions, a list of which can be found here: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/linux_config_list2.html However, if you are using an AMD64 bit distribution, we recommend you try copying the file named "brlpdwrapper" from /usr/lib/cups/filter to /usr/lib64/cups/filter." I have checked my /usr/lib/cups/filter directory and discovered that there was no file named "brlpdwrapper'. No surprises there, since the MFC-210C package would not install. Any suggestions? Glenn.

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benq scanner install
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

hi all I am installing my Benq scanner, and I have run into some trouble. I have listed my installation steps and terminal output: System: Ubuntu 5.10 Kernel:2.6.12-9 386 Scanner: BENQ 4300U Flatbed scanner USB 1.0 Powerpack 16v(a)1.0A 1. Before plugging scanner in: tail /var/log/messages glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages Nov 21 21:14:08 localhost kernel: [4311704.892000] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, address 3 Nov 21 21:14:10 localhost kernel: [4311707.716000] usb 1-1.2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 16 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: evdev: already loaded glenn(a)glenn:~$ 2. When scanner is recognised upon plugging in: glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:17:31 localhost kernel: [4311908.671000] usb 1-1.4.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 17 Nov 21 21:17:32 localhost usb.agent[13207]: libusbscanner: loaded successfully glenn(a)glenn:~$ 3. lsusb glenn(a)glenn:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 017: ID 04a5:20b0 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 3300U/4300U Bus 001 Device 016: ID 046d:c019 Logitech, Inc. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 glenn(a)glenn:~$ 4. Checked /proc/bus/usb/devices to see if the scanner was recognised and had loaded a driver (driver=(none) in my case. glenn(a)glenn:~$cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=03 Prnt=04 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 17 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=20b0 Rev= 1.20 S: Manufacturer=Color S: Product= FlatbedScanner 22 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=16ms glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ 5. As a normal user, run xsane from the terminal: glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ xsane ERROR MESSAGE: Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:001:017': Invalid argument. 6. Run scanscan from the terminal: glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ snapscan bash: snapscan: command not found This is where I get into trouble as I cannot run apt-get on my 5.10 machine and can't figure out what to do next. Glenn.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Dual-Seat Kids Computer PaulQuilty will present on configuring a linux box to enable dual workstations to run off a single box - allowing 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, each running a fully independant session. Effectively 2 computers running on one box.

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installing brother DPC-115C
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi all I am attempting to install a brother dpc- 115 multifunction printer to my newly ubuntu'd laptop. I have downloaded the debian package from brother: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html but when I attempted to install the package, I received the following error: glenn(a)glenn-asus:/brother$ sudo dpkg -i --force-all --force-architecture mfc210clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb Password: (Reading database ... 88020 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace mfc210clpr 1.0.2-1 (using mfc210clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement mfc210clpr ... Setting up mfc210clpr (1.0.2-1) ... ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists glenn(a)glenn-asus:/brother$ Do I need to install cups first? And am I downloading the correct driver? According to the brother website, the correct package was the one I downloaded, but I might be wrong about that. Any help appreciated. Glenn.

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CPS
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi Bruce Should explain that I am running Ubuntu 7.04 on my Asus Laptop. Ok, when I go to the add printer setting in the administration menu, When I click on add new printer, it reads the CUPS database and shows that the two printers that I have connected to the Asus via. USB are detected. One being the Brother DCP-115c and the other is my little Xerox Phaser 3115. When I select the Brother printer and click on Forward, it shows in the manufacturers box at the top Brother..which is good. Underneath is the model of printer..cannot see DCP 115c in the menu. According to the Brother website, I should be using the MFC-210 Debian driver (Is this correct..?). Which also isn't listed. Ok, if I need to install CSH, where can I find this package and how do I install it (bearing in mind that I am going to have to transfer any drivers to the machine via. USB stick since I dont't as yet have the network operational on the Asus. Please excuse my ignorance as I have NO experience with CUPS or printing documents in a linux OS environment. T Thanks so much for your help thus far. Glenn.

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RDram
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi All, I am looking for some rdram for a slow computer. Two 128's would help a lot if they were available. Regards John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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Fwd: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)
by Ian McDonald 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

This looks like a good article - haven't worked through all the details but looks useful. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: imcdnzl <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM Subject: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet) To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz, ian.mcdonald(a)datacom.co.nz Sent to you by imcdnzl via Google Reader: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)<http://lwn.net/Articles/307261/rss> via LWN.net <http://lwn.net> by ris on 11/14/08 Microsoft's Technet Magazine has a lengthy article<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/magazine/dd228986.aspx>on authenticating Linux clients with Active Directory. "Originally, Linux (and the GNU tools and libraries that run on it) was not built with a single authentication mechanism in mind. As a result of this, Linux application developers generally took to creating their own authentication scheme. They managed to accomplish this by either looking up names and password hashes in /etc/passwd (the traditional text file containing Linux user credentials) or providing an entirely different (and separate) mechanism." Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to LWN.net<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Flwn.net%2Fheadlines%2…>using *Google Reader* - Get started using Google Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up with *all your favorite sites* -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together
by David Hallett 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together Come and join the Waikato Branch of the NZCS for a get together next Thursday (20th November). Pop along to the Cock & Bull and catch up with others in the Waikato ICT Community. We'd love to hear how NZCS can further support ICT professionals in Waikato, keep you up-to-date on progress on the many NZCS projects (including the introduction of a Competency Framework and international Certification programme), or just come along and catch up with others working in ICT in Hamilton. All Welcome - first drink free! Registration required for catering purposes: http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3846-NZCS_Waikato_ICT_Get_together Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Upgrading from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 on my laptop
by Ron Dean 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Would it be a good idea to upgrade as I have every thing working on my laptop including wireless internet I have already upgraded my Desktop Computer by doing a fresh install and have eventually got everything working but with my laptop I had a considerable amount of help from wlug members. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu 8.10 failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi All My last action was to install 8.04 on the machine and it went in without error and seems to run well. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did > report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was > corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? > John

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Re: [wlug] Thank you
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

I am on the bludge for a pci video card and an agp video card. They do not have to be very upmarket I just want to get away from the shared memory on two of my old computers that I will ultimately be giving away Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > on that note, i have alot of old kit (i dont know if this > is the right place to say so, if not someone tell me > where) sort of pentium 1ish some newer some older, more > keyboards then you can shake a stick at (over every > flavour, mostly ps2) and a hord of jsut other general junk > , i am happy to give it away to anyone who wants it, > either as a whole big pile, or piece meal if there is > something specific you are hunting for, all tallied up > there is easy a big van full.. (i mean hord) so, if anyone > out there is keen, let me know, also if you contact me i > can give you a better idea what is there > > Cheers > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Darryn Brooking > <gible(a)gible.net> wrote: > > > EDay = BAD. > > This is the 3rd? time since that I could have passed on > something I tossed. > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Lawson > <daniel(a)meta.net.nz>wrote: > > >> Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: > >> > Hey Daniel > >> > > >> > Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had > my old win 98 >> > machine that I do my maths work on and > it had a modem, so i thought id >> > give it a bash with > your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a >> > > website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns > out that I had >> > to install netBEUI and install ICS > from the win 98 add new programs >> > menu, but once that > was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had >> > > good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in > my Vista >> > machines network card settings, but once i > had, it connected too. >> > So thank you for all your help > , and to the other members of WLUG who >> > helped me out. > >> > > >> > >> That's ok. > >> > >> As a suggestion for a future project, you could install > linux on an >> older computer (probably best to not > install X, and you might take it as >> a chance to try a > different distribution), and set it up as a router and >> > firewall. Some of the "magic" has gone from this these > days, as there >> are plenty of distributions that are > oriented towards doing this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my > old Dell 133 >> > Laptop, or a serial network connection > if there is such a thing >> > >> $20 on trademe will get you a pcmcia 10/100 ethernet > card. Be careful of >> what you get, a lot of them need a > small custom cable (commonly called a >> dongle) that > connects to the card and provides a physical RJ45 port, > and >> these can either be missing completely, or damaged > - so get a card that >> has a built-in rj45 port > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Junkj
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Andrew, Let us know if your going to chuck anything out. Im a real steptoe. Glenn.

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Thank you
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Daniel Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had my old win 98 machine that I do my maths work on and it had a modem, so i thought id give it a bash with your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns out that I had to install netBEUI and install ICS from the win 98 add new programs menu, but once that was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in my Vista machines network card settings, but once i had, it connected too. So thank you for all your help, and to the other members of WLUG who helped me out. Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my old Dell 133 Laptop, or a serial network connection if there is such a thing Cheers all Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled?
by GJB 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

It could be something to do with setting the software repositories correctly before starting these managers up. I think there should be something called "Sources" or similar on the system menu. It may need these set right before first starting. Maybe just starting is sufficient to get some basic settings and repositories but needs to be restarted before they become effective. Just a theory. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled? > From: Chakat Sandwalker <sandwalker(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 09, 2008 8:32 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > I've been using 8.10 since the second beta came out (I'd bought a new > laptop, and I didn't want to wait two weeks for the final version to be > released before I could install it), and it seems to be having some odd > issues. > > The first one is that Synaptic and related programs, such as the Update > Manager, stop responding when being started for the first time -- > Synaptic will load, but then stop responding before it can load the list > of packages. I have to force it to quit (either by clicking its Close > button, or killing the process). Starting Synaptic again will then > proceed normally. When the Update Manager is used, and 'Install' is > clicked, the download progress dialog is displayed, but is blank and > appears to have stopped responding. Again, clicking its Close button or > killing the process and trying again works. This hasn't happened on the > other computer I installed 8.10 on -- in fact, the other computer > started with Alpha 4. It's just my laptop having issues. > > The second oddity I have is that the first time I click on the Bookmarks > menu in Firefox on my laptop, it always brings up the 'save bookmark' > dialog. It's getting to be quite a nuisance. > > When headphones are plugged into the headphone jack, the main speakers > aren't muted -- both them and the headphones play sound. I'm not sure > if this is a quirk of my hardware or not. Perhaps I'll come to the next > workshop to have it looked at. > > And now my wireless isn't working -- it was when I installed 8.10 (after > I blacklisted the ath_pci driver to force it to use the ath5k driver), > but now it won't even show up as an interface. > > If anyone has any clues about these, I'd appreciate some help, otherwise > I'll wait for the next workshop. > > Sandy > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi All, Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a number of different c/d's First a rc then two final desktops including trying the live versions also an alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain light brown blank screen The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is particularly true of the alternate, the last few files take a long time to config/install. I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have installed puppy linux in two or three times without a problem. Knoppix live works just fine Any help would be appreciated. Regards John

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Daniel Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo ./ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1c:25:e5:71:ee inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21c:25ff:fee5:71ee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:498 (498.0 B) TX bytes:4301 (4.2 KB) Interrupt:17 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) TX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo route -n [sudo] password for glenn: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 219.88.251.16 connect: Network is unreachable glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.2 PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=7.31 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.412 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.384 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.746 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.369 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.397 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.598 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.354 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.354/1.137/7.310/2.061 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.3 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6.25 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.306 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.272 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.258 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.302 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.262 ms --- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.258/0.873/6.250/1.792 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.4 PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=6.26 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.383 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.366 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.374 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.385 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.375 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.372 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.393 ms --- 192.168.0.4 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.366/0.967/6.262/1.765 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ Here is the output from ipconfig on my Windows Vista Laptop....... Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001] Copyright <c> 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Glenn\ipconfig Windows IP Configuration PPP adaptor Kiwi Online Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.150.120.140 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Wireless LAN adaptor Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Ethernet adaptor Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . . . : fe80::2143:794a:d1cb:f50d%8 IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 10: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 11: ntyMedia State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 12: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:ca96:788c:ca96:788c Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c58:6301 C:\Users\Glenn> Thanks for the help. How do I go about installing Samba on my Ubuntu machine? (what commands do I need to type in?) Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Again I managed to get Ibex to install and run on an old amd duron with no real problems so maybe this latest Ubuntu IS a bit of a lottery with older machines. I will try to install Linux mint on the other machine just to see what happens... John -

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

sadly the bios memory setting is maxed out on my machine so am unable to alter memory allocation. John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

OK I will go into the bios and push up the vid card memory and see if that helps John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

the only working option is the cli john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > desktops including trying the live versions also an > alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting > to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain > light brown blank screen > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is > particularly true of the alternate, the last few files > take a long time to config/install. > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > Any help would be appreciated. > Regards John > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Thanks Daniel Will have the output for you later this evening. Thanks all of you for your helpful advise. Glenn.

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

hey all I am trying to get my pppoe working on my desktop computer, everytime I unlock the network settings, and check the pppoe option, as fast as I select pppoe, it unchecks the box. here is the output from lspci relating to my ethernet controller: glenn(a)glenn ~$lspci 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) Now I can see my other computers but I cant access them, althought I can ping them. Why can't I set up pppoe? Any help appreciated. Glenn

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Not sure if this is helpful or not but Clearnet had a recent network collapse resulting in PPP dropping out completely to a large number of users. No amount of resetting would fix the problem until I had spoken with Clearnet's IT people who fixed it from their end.... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi Glenn, > > Please keep this onlist. I'm not the only person that can > help you, and other people can benefit from the answers as > well. > > > > sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access > > them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my > > network, but when I click on those machines, no files or > > directories of the machines that I am trying to access > > appear, like what you would see if you had a properly > configured and set up network. > > > You'll need to enable shared folders on each machine > before you can see them. Follow the notes in my other > email on this. If you can ping the other machine's ip > address, it means your network is working. > > > Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to > > access the internet via my windows laptop, because the > > modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, > > does not have 64bit support, and probably never will > > have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not > willing to release thier source code so that linux > > developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. > > PPPoE won't help you with this. You need to enable > Internet connection sharing on the windows machine. You > can then connect to the internet from windows, and it will > share the connection to other computers on your network - > eg, your linux box. Your linux system will then connect > *over the ethernet network*, through your windows > computer. No PPPoE is involved. > > http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/winxp/ics.aspx > > > > > > As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also > > doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to > > use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple > > of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may > > try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also > unavailable to me. > > You can get USB serial adapters which will let you do > this. > > > > In general, most of these problems stop surfacing now > because very few people still have dialup internet. Most > people have DSL these days, and while a lot of the free > DSL routers you get with your connection are USB based, > it's very easy to purchase a full ethernet router which > will do the job. You used to be able to get dialup routers > which did the same thing (plug a serial modem into them, > they connect to the internet, and share the connection to > your PCs), but I doubt this is a feasible option. > > I'm sorry that we can't be more help remotely. It's hard > enough troubleshooting this stuff via email, but it's also > been years since I did anything involving getting > winmodems to work. > > > If you want to try ICS stuff again, can you please > > * verify that you've set ICS up, sharing the modem with > your LAN, under windows > * run "ipconfig" in a command shell in windows and check > that you have IP addresses allocated - should look like > 192.168.X.Y or 10.X.Y.Z where X Y Z might be anything. > Send me the output from this command > > * run "/sbin/ifconfig " in a terminal in linux and check > that your network interface (probably eth0) has an IP > address that looks very similar to the windows one. Send > me the output from this command. > > * run "/sbin/route -n" in a terminal in linux, and verify > that the line that starts with "0.0.0.0" has your windows > IP address in the second column. Send me the output from > this as well. > > * If the above two tests aren't true, verify that your > network in linux is set to dynamic or automatically assign > or roaming mode (all different names for the same thing, > not sure what you'll see). > > * If the IP address you got above for linux started with > 169, it means that either ICS isn't set up properly, or > your computers aren't connected properly. You've said you > can ping the other computer, so i assume this is probably > OK > > * assuming the "route" test above is correct, you can ping > the windows laptop, and the windows laptop is connected to > the internet, try to ping a computer on the internet. For > example, open a terminal, and run "ping 219.88.251.16". If > that works, you're on the internet just fine. > > * If the above works fine, and you still can't browse the > internet from, say, firefox, then your DNS settings are > probably wrong. Try going to a website by using its IP > address. For example, the WLUG wiki is at 60.234.66.116. > Load up firefox, and go to http://60.234.66.116/. > > * If the above works, then you need to fix your DNS > settings. We'll sort that when we get to it > > * If it doesn't work, then we need to look at other things > still. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hey Daniel, sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my network, but when I click on those machines, no files or directories of the machines that I am trying to access appear, like what you would see if you had a properly configured and set up network. Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me. I will install Samba on my Acer Linux desktop, and have already enabled sharing on my folders on my Windows Vista laptop, however, the problem that I have is that under Heron, I cannot get my pppoe settings to 'stick' as it were, as soon as I click on them, they deselect themselves and uncheck the pppoe box. This is what I am trying to investigate the cause of. This is all very frustrating but I am not going to give up because I believe in the principles behind Linux and the open source software community, I just have to do a heck of a lot of learning FAST. Cheers Glenn.

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