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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 May '09

01 May '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Apr '09

30 Apr '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

It appears that you are correct. I had not expected such a long buffer period. It still, however causes rythmbox to lock up solid for some reason. Regards John > Perhaps just ingore the message and wait long enough for > the stream to buffer up?

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

I have changed to my desktop ubuntu 8.10 in the hope a more modern installation would help. Having run through the list of available streaming radio stations and successfully playing a large random selection. the exception being thecoast.net.nz when opened in firefox claims to need adobe flash-plugin. Flash-plugin is installed so there must be some other thing that I do not have that prevents this station playing. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > Just to make it interesting I now have the stream > > working in pretty well in firefox. A sad problem is that > > it is absolutely silent for some strange reason, not > > good for a radio stream. Vlc seems not to be working at > > all (no data transfer) even though the url seems to be > > in the correct place..... > > Your original link > (http://www.thecoast.net.nz/Listenlive/) was working for > me in Firefox from the start. There was no need for any > external application. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- !!Kete: online digital knowledge for libraries and communities Hamilton City Library is using Kete to create an online knowledge basket of Hamilton history. Learn more from Rae McCormick and Smita Biswas of the Library and Walter McGinnis of Katipo Communications. Kete (Maori for 'basket') is an open source collaborative content and knowledge management system, developed by Katipo Communications Ltd and the Horowhenua Library Trust for building online community-driven history and memories. Hamilton City Library is using Kete to build a resource of Hamilton's heritage, recording stories, photographs, videos and audio recordings. Join us for a discussion covering how you can be involved, how Kete was developed, and how Kete helps the community to make their own stories and knowledge more accessible. Kete was the 2007 winner of the 3M Award for Innovation in Libraries, sponsored by 3M New Zealand in conjunction with the Library and Information Association of New Zealand Aotearoa. Kete was also awarded Special Mention for excellence in e-content (North America and Oceania region) at the 2007 World Summit Awards. * http://ketehamilton.peoplesnetworknz.info * http://kete.net.nz * http://www.katipo.co.nz Event poster at http://www.flickr.com/photos/butting/3447314368. Technical notes: Walter McGinnis is lead developer of Kete. Kete is a digital archiving tool, a web-based application using the Ruby on Rails framework. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem (partial solution
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

That is fine the buffer situation is understood. I do not wish to listen to a twin computer simulcast and am happy with just one. However it happened that my friend was listening to the station I have been endeavoring to get running for the past three days so we drew a comparison. Regards John PS I will attempt to run rythmbox tomorrow ----- Original Message Follows ----- > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > I just opened firefox and did tools/pageinfo/media down > > to the link Peter sent me. I copied the link into the > > browser and "Voila" it played. My friend was at a > > windows computer playing the same stream as I but his > > was playing 20/30 seconds ahead of my stream for some > > reason???????? Any helpful comments appreciated. > > Regards John > > Different applications have different levels of buffering, > which in turn delays the stream from live by however > large the buffer is. A larger buffer will deal with > network issues (packet loss, jitter etc) better, but will > give a larger absolute delay from the "live" feed. > > If you actually care, you can try tweaking the buffer > settings (I don't know where you'd look though, sorry). > Of course, if you're ever in a situation where you can > hear both instances of it, why not just turn one off and > only listen to the other one? ;) >

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem (partial solution
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

I just opened firefox and did tools/pageinfo/media down to the link Peter sent me. I copied the link into the browser and "Voila" it played. My friend was at a windows computer playing the same stream as I but his was playing 20/30 seconds ahead of my stream for some reason???????? Any helpful comments appreciated. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I have changed to my desktop ubuntu 8.10 in the hope a > more modern installation would help. > Having run through the list of available streaming radio > stations and successfully playing a large random > selection. the exception being thecoast.net.nz when opened > in firefox claims to need adobe flash-plugin. Flash-plugin > is installed so there must be some other thing that I do > not have that prevents this station playing. > Regards John > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > Just to make it interesting I now have the stream > > > working in pretty well in firefox. A sad problem is > > > that it is absolutely silent for some strange reason, > > > not good for a radio stream. Vlc seems not to be > > > working at all (no data transfer) even though the url > > > seems to be in the correct place..... > > > > Your original link > > (http://www.thecoast.net.nz/Listenlive/) was working for > > me in Firefox from the start. There was no need for any > > external application. > > > > Cheers, Peter > > -- > > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University > > of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > > _______________________________________________ wlug > > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Do you recommend that I un-install install the flash-plugin/ to see if that solves the problem I have the version in synaptic which is 10.22.87-2 intrepid? Regards John > > A couple of points there: if I load it, it displays a > notice about needing the flash plugin (which I have > installed), however it works anyway - the stream still > plays. It's possible it needs a newer version of flash > than you have installed AND it has some broken code for > detecting if flash is installed.

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Just to make it interesting I now have the stream working in pretty well in firefox. A sad problem is that it is absolutely silent for some strange reason, not good for a radio stream. Vlc seems not to be working at all (no data transfer) even though the url seems to be in the correct place..... Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > I use VLC to listen to streams like this. I tried the > > one you posted below and it works. I use the firefox > > plugin here to connect the stream to vlc: > > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446 > > > > mplayer would also work. > > Interesting, neither mplayer nor vlc worked for me. Only > Rhythmbox. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

OK, I followed the instructions given and found rythmbox defaults to "paused" when the play is actioned ( by doubleclick or play radio ) then total lock-up occurs and forced quit is needed. I tried the same thing in Amarok but the stream would not play giving a "there is no audio channel" error. Both players do a play other streams but not the one I would like to hear. Regards john > Nope, no install script necessary. Just follow these steps > (on Ubuntu 8.10): - open rhythmbox > - navigate to Library -> Radio > - right-click in the list on the right hand side and > select "New Internet Radio Station" > - paste the link in the dialog box that popped up and > click "Add" - select this new internet radio and click on > "Play" > > NB: Rhythmbox seems a bit buggy and might not manage to > play the radio immediately. But after a few times > double-clicking on the radio (or selecting the station and > the clicking on the "Play" button) it finally starts > playing the stream. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

Hmmn! I am using ver 0.11.5 I wonder if that is significant? John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > I followed the instructions given and found rythmbox > > defaults to "paused" when the play is actioned ( by > > doubleclick or play radio ) then total lock-up occurs > > and forced quit is needed. I tried the same thing in > > Amarok but the stream would not play giving a "there is > > no audio channel" error. Both players do a play other > > streams but not the one I would like to hear. > > Sorry, but it works fine for me (just tried it again with > the link below - always takes me a few attempts to get it > to play). > > http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/audioredirect.asp?whichbrand=coastAK > > BTW My Rhythmbox version is 0.11.6. Haven't tested amarok > , as I don't use it. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

Thanks again Peter. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > Hah! I kind of thought that I would need to open the > > audioasx.asp in rythmbox, Seems this is not case. Do I > > need an install script or? > > Nope, no install script necessary. Just follow these steps > (on Ubuntu 8.10): - open rhythmbox > - navigate to Library -> Radio > - right-click in the list on the right hand side and > select "New Internet Radio Station" > - paste the link in the dialog box that popped up and > click "Add" - select this new internet radio and click on > "Play" > > NB: Rhythmbox seems a bit buggy and might not manage to > play the radio immediately. But after a few times > double-clicking on the radio (or selecting the station and > the clicking on the "Play" button) it finally starts > playing the stream. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

Hah! I kind of thought that I would need to open the audioasx.asp in rythmbox, Seems this is not case. Do I need an install script or? Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Thanks Peter. > Regards John > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > I am trying to get this url to work in > > > Rythmbox....http://www.thecoast.net.nz/Listenlive/ > > > However after connecting I get to following message. > > > "Couldn't start playback A text/html decoder plugin is > > > required to play this stream, but not installed." > > > I have searched a few forum threads but all seem to > > > point to things I already have installed. Does anyone > > > know of a specific plugin that is required for this > > address > > > > Looking at the source code of that webpage, I got the > > following link working in Rhythmbox: > > > > > http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/audioredirect.asp?whichbrand=coastAK > > > > Cheers, Peter > > -- > > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University > > of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > > _______________________________________________ wlug > > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- !!Kete: online digital knowledge for libraries and communities Hamilton City Library is using Kete to create an online knowledge basket of Hamilton history. Learn more from Rae McCormick and Smita Biswas of the Library and Walter McGinnis of Katipo Communications. Kete (Maori for 'basket') is an open source collaborative content and knowledge management system, developed by Katipo Communications Ltd and the Horowhenua Library Trust for building online community-driven history and memories. Hamilton City Library is using Kete to build a resource of Hamilton's heritage, recording stories, photographs, videos and audio recordings. Join us for a discussion covering how you can be involved, how Kete was developed, and how Kete helps the community to make their own stories and knowledge more accessible. Kete was the 2007 winner of the 3M Award for Innovation in Libraries, sponsored by 3M New Zealand in conjunction with the Library and Information Association of New Zealand Aotearoa. Kete was also awarded Special Mention for excellence in e-content (North America and Oceania region) at the 2007 World Summit Awards. * http://ketehamilton.peoplesnetworknz.info * http://kete.net.nz * http://www.katipo.co.nz Event poster at http://www.flickr.com/photos/butting/3447314368. Technical notes: Walter McGinnis is lead developer of Kete. Kete is a digital archiving tool, a web-based application using the Ruby on Rails framework. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

Thanks Peter. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > I am trying to get this url to work in > > Rythmbox....http://www.thecoast.net.nz/Listenlive/ > > However after connecting I get to following message. > > "Couldn't start playback A text/html decoder plugin is > > required to play this stream, but not installed." > > I have searched a few forum threads but all seem to > > point to things I already have installed. Does anyone > > know of a specific plugin that is required for this > address > > Looking at the source code of that webpage, I got the > following link working in Rhythmbox: > > http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/audioredirect.asp?whichbrand=coastAK > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of > Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ > Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > _______________________________________________ wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Rythmbox problem
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

Hi All, I am trying to get this url to work in Rythmbox....http://www.thecoast.net.nz/Listenlive/ However after connecting I get to following message. "Couldn't start playback A text/html decoder plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed." I have searched a few forum threads but all seem to point to things I already have installed. Does anyone know of a specific plugin that is required for this address Regards John

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Phishing email from wlug.org.nz
by James Pluck 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi all, I know that you all are intelligent and knowing internet users so please just ignore this :) I've been the lucky recipient of a phishing email purporting to be from the WLUG SUPPORT TEAM telling me that apparantly we are undergoing maintenace (sic) on our servers and need me to reply with my username and password to some group with a yahoo.com.hk address. Did we outsource our server maintenance recently and not tell the committee? *grin* Just a heads up everyone :) Cheers James.

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Apr '09

19 Apr '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- !!Kete: online digital knowledge for libraries and communities Hamilton City Library is using Kete to create an online knowledge basket of Hamilton history. Learn more from Rae McCormick and Smita Biswas of the Library and Walter McGinnis of Katipo Communications. Kete (Maori for 'basket') is an open source collaborative content and knowledge management system, developed by Katipo Communications Ltd and the Horowhenua Library Trust for building online community-driven history and memories. Hamilton City Library is using Kete to build a resource of Hamilton's heritage, recording stories, photographs, videos and audio recordings. Join us for a discussion covering how you can be involved, how Kete was developed, and how Kete helps the community to make their own stories and knowledge more accessible. Kete was the 2007 winner of the 3M Award for Innovation in Libraries, sponsored by 3M New Zealand in conjunction with the Library and Information Association of New Zealand Aotearoa. Kete was also awarded Special Mention for excellence in e-content (North America and Oceania region) at the 2007 World Summit Awards. * http://ketehamilton.peoplesnetworknz.info * http://kete.net.nz * http://www.katipo.co.nz Event poster at http://www.flickr.com/photos/butting/3447314368. Technical notes: Walter McGinnis is lead developer of Kete. Kete is a digital archiving tool, a web-based application using the Ruby on Rails framework. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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27 April Meeting - Kete/Hamilton City Library
by John Billings 18 Apr '09

18 Apr '09

In advance of the script that goes and sends the meeting announcements, just wanted to invite you all to our meeting this month: *Kete: online digital knowledge for libraries and communities* Hamilton City Library is using Kete to create an online knowledge basket of Hamilton history. Learn more from Rae McCormick and Smita Biswas of the Library and Walter McGinnis of Katipo Communications. More info here: http://wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2009-04-27 We hope to gather a good audience for Rae, Smita, and Walter, and show them there is a large community that supports the library using Free/Open Source Software. Please help us spread the word about the meeting, invite a friend or colleague. Bryce has made a great flyer which you can download from the link above, if you can spare some ink please print out a couple copies and distribute. Thanks, The WLUG Committee

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Google Maps -- now with crunchy aerial goodness!
by Bryce Utting 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

looks like the imagery was captured around 4pm or so on 17/12/2008. (prove me wrong!) VERY hi-res. butting

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Making a movie from a series of images
by Glenn Ramsey 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Hi, For my study I use a piece of software that displays animated 3d models and which can generate images for each frame of the animation. I can make these image into an animated gif using ImageMagick's convert or into an mpeg movie using ffmpeg, for use in a ppt presentation. The mpeg has lots of compression artifacts (I guess because the images are computer generated they have sharp colour gradients). The animated gif looks great, but is quite a large file. There must be a way to make an movie that doesn't have the compression artifacts as is done for screencast type movies. I've done some web searching about this but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Can anyone suggest a way to do this or some search terms that I could use? Cheers Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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comparing files
by Peter Reutemann 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Hi there If you ever had to check the differences between two files, e.g., patching files, you most likely came across "diff". diff's output may be easy to parse for programs, but I personally prefer a graphical view of the differences side-by-side. I just came across the article "Linux GUI diff utilities a visual tour" covering quite a few tools that allow you to visually compare two files. More tools are mentioned in the comments (my personal favorite is KDiff3): http://www.handlewithlinux.com/Linux-GUI-diff-utilities-a-visual-tour Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday April 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday April 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Ubuntu "Windows install"
by Michael McDonald 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Just did a test install of Ubuntu within Windows. It's a very easy installation and one that an "average" computer user could cope with. The downside, of course, is that Ubuntu is at the mercy of the Windows files system. That shouldn't be too much of a problem. Buoyed by that success, I tried it to do it with Windows 7 Beta. No such luck! Microsoft has changed the boot system and as a result Ubuntu won't boot to finish the installation. It's possible there are a few hacks to get around that. I haven't done any research. No doubt Canonical will devise a way of making it work with Windows 7. I suspect an attempt to do a "manual" install of Ubuntu would result in Windows 7 no longer booting. Michael

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Is recording from an *.m3u stream possible?
by Glyn Webster 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Is there any sort of program (or simple set up) that will automatically record from a *.m3u stream at a particular hour? I.e. like a video recorder. I want to listen to British radio shows that are on at silly hours of the NZ morning: http://resonancefm.com/listen --Glyn

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Connecting to KOL with dialup
by Michael McDonald 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

I set up a user with a trial of Ubuntu, an external modem, and a KOL connection. (Would be lovely to have broadband, but in this situation broadband is "not on"). Dialup seems to be changing! I had a few problems during testing connecting to Xtra (see http://wlug.org.nz/Xtra ) ... Xtra's prompts upset wvdial. I thought "Oh well, if I can get Xtra to connect, I ought to be able to get KOL to talk using the same technique". Trying the usual methods of connecting didn't give any joy, so I used putty to find out what was happening. Name and Password was fine, but then KOL responded with a binary string, repeated every second or so, 6th byte incrementing, for a while and then disconnected. The string is ... ff 03 c0 21 01 dc 00 12 01 04 7f d5 03 04 c0 23 05 06 77 2d 1d b1 (dc was the byte that incremented with each message) Is this familiar to anyone? I haven't rung KOL as the website claims no support for Linux, and I wouldn't expect normal help-desk staff to be able to answer that query anyway. At worst, I've donated, $10 to KOL! Now that the user has the computer, I've got to set up another one for testing. :-) (Not a problem!) Any suggestions? Michael

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Re: [wlug] Where do I go on the Internet ask general questions about Debian Lenny?
by Glyn Webster 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

Thank you, all. I'll be watching the Debian forums and the "debian-user" mailing list now. I didn't know about them. (I'm watching at "debian-user" via Gmane.org's NNTP feed - KNode is nicer to use than Google Groups.) I'm using KDE 3.5 on Debian Lenny. "update-notifier" *says* it will work on KDE. I've followed the advice I just found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27109 I think what it says to do is the command-line equivalent to using "System > Preferences > Session", which isn't there in Debian. "update-notify" is running in the background now, and a grey icon appeared (and disappeared) in the KDE System Tray. I'll wait for an update to come up and see what happens. If nothing, I'll subscribe to "debian-user" and ask. On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 4:22:46 pm John Billings wrote: > I find the Debian forums are a good resource: > > http://forums.debian.net/ > > Or using this google interface to the user list: > > http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/topics > > When I plugged "update-notifier" in the search box on that user list > page, the first thread that came up talks about restoring > update-notifier in gnome: > > http://tinyurl.com/cgg9mr > > There is a panel applet called "notification area", where > update-notifier puts the alert, make sure you have that on one of your > panels. > > Best, > John > > Bruce Kingsbury wrote: > >>> Where do I go on the Internet ask general questions about Debian Lenny? > >>> > >>> (The question is: I've installed 'update-notifier', but it never > >>> notifies me > >>> of any package updates. The README gives me a feeling I'm supposed to > >>> set something up, but I'm not sure what or how.) > > > > At a guess, you probably need to run 'update-notifier' in your Gnome > > or KDE session .. Under Ubuntu it's System > Preferences > Session to > > have things run automatically at login (In Jaunty it's renamed to > > Startup Applications), it's probably somewhere similar in Debian. > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug --Glyn

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 213, Issue 16
by Jaco van der Merwe 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Thanks for the speedy info. The guys on dd-wrt reckon you may be OK if you implemented strong password. Maybe add a the relevant IP/DNS to a blacklist & remove all tools to download code, like wget, "busybox ftpget" & tftp. Disable ssh & access from outside (besides via VPN). http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=49370&highlight=psyb0t I expect we'll see a patch soon (considering how soon a patch cam out after the "Kaminski bug") - J > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 213, Issue 16 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:00:08 +1300 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Worm Targets Linux Routers (James Pluck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:36:16 +1300 > From: James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] Worm Targets Linux Routers > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <49CC0360.2050701(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > This looks a little upsetting... > > http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/03/26/worm-targets-linux-routers/1?t… > > > J > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 213, Issue 16 > ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Got a 2008 financial hangover? Let MSN NZ Money help you recover. http://money.msn.co.nz

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Worm Targets Linux Routers
by James Pluck 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

This looks a little upsetting... http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/03/26/worm-targets-linux-routers/1?t… J

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Where do I go on the Internet ask general questions about Debian Lenny?
by Glyn Webster 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Where do I go on the Internet ask general questions about Debian Lenny? (The question is: I've installed 'update-notifier', but it never notifies me of any package updates. The README gives me a feeling I'm supposed to set something up, but I'm not sure what or how.) --Glyn

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situation vacant - Programmer/Developer
by John McPherson 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Global-Pix.com runs several websites, including the Marathon-Photos.com site. In 2008 we photographed more than 2 million athletes in over 450 events through 30 countries - taking more than 6 million images and recording over a thousand hours' worth of video footage. Due to expansion, we are looking for a Programmer to join our small development team based at our office in Hamilton. In this position, you would help maintain and program our back-end systems. While there will be some system administration tasks to be done, the majority of your time will be spent working on software features. We are looking for someone with a minimum of 3 years' programming experience, particularly with the Python programming language. In addition, experience in either of the two following areas would be a distinct advantage: 1) System Administration - for example: * Server internals (eg RAID, SATA, UPSes) * Debian GNU/Linux administration experience * LAN management (configuration, DNS/bind, diagnostics, etc) * Centralised account management - LDAP, SMB, SSH or 2) Video Processing - for example: * good knowledge of video formats and codecs * familiarity with command line video processing tools (eg ffmpeg) * streaming video Salary is negotiable based on skillset and experience. Our office has a small and friendly atmosphere near the middle of the CBD. Please send email to vacancies(a)global-pix.com to apply or request further information. If you reply to this email, beware of the default "Reply-To" header on the WLUG list. -- John McPherson

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Re: [wlug] benq scanner install
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Hi Glen, Did you make a typo? snapscan scanscan?? John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > hi all > > I am installing my Benq scanner, and I have run into some > trouble. I have listed my installation steps and terminal > output: > > System: Ubuntu 5.10 > > Kernel:2.6.12-9 386 > > Scanner: BENQ 4300U > > Flatbed scanner > USB 1.0 > Powerpack 16v(a)1.0A > > 1. Before plugging scanner in: tail /var/log/messages > > glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages > Nov 21 21:14:08 localhost kernel: [4311704.892000] usb > 1-1.2: USB disconnect, address 3 > Nov 21 21:14:10 localhost kernel: [4311707.716000] usb > 1-1.2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address > 16 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] > input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on > usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost > input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 > 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: > already loaded > Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: > already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: > usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost > input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 > 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already > loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: > evdev: already loaded glenn(a)glenn:~$ > > 2. When scanner is recognised upon plugging in: > > glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages > Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] input: > USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on > usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost > input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 > 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: > already loaded > Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: > already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: > usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost > input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 > 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already > loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: > evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:17:31 localhost kernel: > [4311908.671000] usb 1-1.4.1: new full speed USB device > using uhci_hcd and address 17 Nov 21 21:17:32 localhost > usb.agent[13207]: libusbscanner: loaded successfully > glenn(a)glenn:~$ > > 3. lsusb > > glenn(a)glenn:~$ lsusb > Bus 001 Device 017: ID 04a5:20b0 Acer Peripherals Inc. > (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 3300U/4300U > Bus 001 Device 016: ID 046d:c019 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > glenn(a)glenn:~$ > > 4. Checked /proc/bus/usb/devices to see if the scanner was > recognised and had loaded a driver (driver=(none) in my > case. > > glenn(a)glenn:~$cat /proc/bus/usb/devices > T: Bus=01 Lev=03 Prnt=04 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 17 Spd=12 > MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS= 8 > #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=20b0 Rev= 1.20 > S: Manufacturer=Color > S: Product= FlatbedScanner 22 > C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=100mA > I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff > Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms > E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms > E: Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=16ms > glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ > > 5. As a normal user, run xsane from the terminal: > > glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ xsane > > ERROR MESSAGE: Failed to open device > 'snapscan:libusb:001:017': Invalid argument. > > 6. Run scanscan from the terminal: > > glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ snapscan > bash: snapscan: command not found > > This is where I get into trouble as I cannot run apt-get > on my 5.10 machine and can't figure out what to do next. > > Glenn. > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #Previous minutes #Treasurers report #Correspondance #Matters arising #Server Status #General business * Reschedule committee meetings to the week after the regular meeting. * Library Status ---- Previous meeting: http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2009-01-19 CommitteeMeetingTopics

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet Leggett the Director of the Waikato 2020 Communications Trust will be giving a presentation on her organization, and how they use http://www.wlug.org.nz/Moodle a FOSS educational course managment tool. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 213, Issue 10
by David Bowen 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Connecting to KOL with dialup (Michael McDonald) > 2. Re: Connecting to KOL with dialup (John Rye) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:52:25 +1300 > From: Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] Connecting to KOL with dialup > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <e58eb89b0903201352x36c95734hd9eb5f1c77082e69(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I set up a user with a trial of Ubuntu, an external modem, and a KOL > connection. (Would be lovely to have broadband, but in this situation > broadband is "not on"). > > Dialup seems to be changing! I had a few problems during testing > connecting to Xtra (see http://wlug.org.nz/Xtra ) ... Xtra's prompts > upset wvdial. I thought "Oh well, if I can get Xtra to connect, I > ought to be able to get KOL to talk using the same technique". > > Trying the usual methods of connecting didn't give any joy, so I used > putty to find out what was happening. Name and Password was fine, but > then KOL responded with a binary string, repeated every second or so, > 6th byte incrementing, for a while and then disconnected. The string > is ... > > ff 03 c0 21 01 dc 00 12 01 04 7f d5 03 04 c0 23 05 06 77 2d 1d b1 > (dc was the byte that incremented with each message) > > Is this familiar to anyone? I haven't rung KOL as the website claims > no support for Linux, and I wouldn't expect normal help-desk staff to > be able to answer that query anyway. At worst, I've donated, $10 to > KOL! > > Now that the user has the computer, I've got to set up another one for > testing. :-) (Not a problem!) > > Any suggestions? > > Michael > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:51:10 +1300 > From: John Rye <jrt746(a)clear.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Connecting to KOL with dialup > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Message-ID: <20090321105110.8b7ad732.jrt746(a)clear.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:52:25 +1300 > Michael McDonald wrote: > > >> I set up a user with a trial of Ubuntu, an external modem, and a KOL >> connection. (Would be lovely to have broadband, but in this situation >> broadband is "not on"). >> >> Dialup seems to be changing! I had a few problems during testing >> connecting to Xtra (see http://wlug.org.nz/Xtra ) ... Xtra's prompts >> upset wvdial. I thought "Oh well, if I can get Xtra to connect, I >> ought to be able to get KOL to talk using the same technique". >> >> Trying the usual methods of connecting didn't give any joy, so I used >> putty to find out what was happening. Name and Password was fine, but >> then KOL responded with a binary string, repeated every second or so, >> 6th byte incrementing, for a while and then disconnected. The string >> is ... >> >> ff 03 c0 21 01 dc 00 12 01 04 7f d5 03 04 c0 23 05 06 77 2d 1d b1 >> (dc was the byte that incremented with each message) >> >> Is this familiar to anyone? I haven't rung KOL as the website claims >> no support for Linux, and I wouldn't expect normal help-desk staff to >> be able to answer that query anyway. At worst, I've donated, $10 to >> KOL! >> >> Now that the user has the computer, I've got to set up another one for >> testing. :-) (Not a problem!) >> >> Any suggestions? >> > > Try setting your /etc/ppp/options like this: > ===== > lock > noauth > defaultroute > ipcp-max-configure 65 > ipcp-accept-local > ipcp-accept-remote > idle 600 > ===== > > This works for me > > John > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 213, Issue 10 > ************************************* > > Try installing Gnome-ppp and set it to run "Stupid mode" in other words ignore init strings. Quite a while since I did it, but I got it to work. I think gnome-ppp is the only one that works because it can be set to ignore init strings. Hope that helps Dave

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet Leggett the Director of the Waikato 2020 Communications Trust will be giving a presentation on her organization, and how they use http://www.wlug.org.nz/Moodle a FOSS educational course managment tool. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Janet Leggett the Director of the Waikato 2020 Communications Trust will be giving a presentation on her organization, and how they use http://www.wlug.org.nz/Moodle a FOSS educational course managment tool. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] Plug for Full Circle magazine
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

My opinion is there is lots for everyone... Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Thanks, looks like it will be well worth some time to read > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Plug for Full Circle magazine
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

Hi all, http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-22/ Has had a number of articles (among others) on how to program in "C" Regards John

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Linux users in the news
by Liz Quilty 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

http://scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0903/S00121.htm Liz

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Library Donation
by James Pluck 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hi All. I'd just like to thank Eric Light for his donation of 9 manuals for the WLUG Library. O'reilly: "Make", "Sendmail", "System Performance Tuning", "Running Linux" and "MH & XMH for users and programmers" MIS Press: Linux Config and Install A second copy of "Unix in a Nutshell" Sams: "Teach yourself SQL in 24 hours" and "A First Book of C++" second edition - This was the textbook for Waikato Uni first year C++ course (Is it still the text?) So, some oldies but there's some gems in there also. I'll load these into the catalogue this evening from home and they will be available for loan at the next usual WLUG meeting (or by prior arrangement with WLUG financial members at my home). Thanks heaps, Eric! James President & Librarian

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FW: [nznog] TelstraClear have rejected s92a
by Jodi Thomson 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

> -----Original Message----- > From: Spiro Harvey [mailto:spiro(a)starforge.net.nz] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:38 AM > To: nznog > Subject: [nznog] TelstraClear have rejected s92a > > for those who haven't seen: > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology//2252415/TelstraClear-rejects-copyright-c… > > I believe this means that the law will be suspended and rewritten. > > > -- > Spiro Harvey > UNIX Specialist, Writer, Editor > > http://twiddle.starforge.net.nz > > Give us this day our garlic bread and lead us not into vegetarianism > but deliver us some pizza. > > +++ > ATH0 -- Jodi Thomson Systems Engineer Prophecy Networks Ltd P.O.Box 420 21 Browning Street Napier DDI: +64 6 8243901 Ph: +64 6 9742200 FAX: +64 6 9742201 Mob: +64 21 937684 "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before."

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On 12 March, WLUG will be co-sponsoring several talks on OpenOffice.org repeated throughout the day at St. Pauls Methodist Center in Hamilton. Our presenter will be GrahamLauder, who you may remember gave and excellent talk at our SoftwareFreedomDay event last year. Since that talk OpenOffice 3 has been released, so anyone who attended that talk will want to see him speak again on what new features have been included in this release. The event is co-sponsored by the 20/20 Waikato Trust (http://waikato2020.wainet.org/) and Community Waikato (http://www.ssw.org.nz/) There is a http://www.wlug.org.nz/PDF flyer you can download below with more information. These talks are for the benefit of not-for-profit organizations and the communities they serve. Linux, OpenOffice.org and other Free/Open Source Software applications are being used more and more by not-for-profits due to lower cost, no licensing hassles, and the high quality of the software. OpenOffice.org has a page here dedicated to the ways non-profits can benefit from using it's software: http://why.openoffice.org/why_nfp.html These talks are open to WLUG members, we are a not-for-profit incorporated society after all. Linux users value the empowerment and freedom the software gives them. This is an opportunity to spread the word about our group to people who share these values. If your an employee or a volunteer or associated with a non-profit in anyway, these presentations are intend for you. If you know someone who may be interested in this talk, or there is someone involved with a non-profit you've been wanting to talk to about using Free Software, this is your opportunity. If you would like to attend please send an rsvp to: john(a)nimhq.net. Download OpenOffice.org for non-profits flyer (http://nimhq.net/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=openofficetalk-12-03.pdf)

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Video collection data system
by Chris O'Halloran 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

This email was sent to the secretary of the WLUG. I have copied the email on behalf of the sender. _________________________________________ Hello, We are setting up a new video collection data system running under Ubuntu and need the services of a linux expert to install collections software and setup ports with permissions etc in particular USB & Serial ports. Do you have anybody that can help Kind Regards, Pavement Management Services Ltd Bryce Tinkler General Manager (NZ) Telephone: + 64 (0) 7 847 0499 / Mobile: + 64 (0)21 644 040 / Fax: + 64 (0) 7 847 0399 E-mail: mailto:bryce.tinkler(a)pmsnz.co.nz / Website: www.pavement.com.au <blocked::http://www.pavement.com.au/> / www.fugro.com Address: 5 Keddell Street, Frankton, Hamilton 3242, New Zealand P.O. Box 5465, Frankton, Hamilton 3242, New Zealand

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is tomorrow!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

There is a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On 12 March, WLUG will be co-sponsoring several talks on OpenOffice.org repeated throughout the day at St. Pauls Methodist Center in Hamilton. Our presenter will be GrahamLauder, who you may remember gave and excellent talk at our SoftwareFreedomDay event last year. Since that talk OpenOffice 3 has been released, so anyone who attended that talk will want to see him speak again on what new features have been included in this release. The event is co-sponsored by the 20/20 Waikato Trust (http://waikato2020.wainet.org/) and Community Waikato (http://www.ssw.org.nz/) There is a http://www.wlug.org.nz/PDF flyer you can download below with more information. These talks are for the benefit of not-for-profit organizations and the communities they serve. Linux, OpenOffice.org and other Free/Open Source Software applications are being used more and more by not-for-profits due to lower cost, no licensing hassles, and the high quality of the software. OpenOffice.org has a page here dedicated to the ways non-profits can benefit from using it's software: http://why.openoffice.org/why_nfp.html These talks are open to WLUG members, we are a not-for-profit incorporated society after all. Linux users value the empowerment and freedom the software gives them. This is an opportunity to spread the word about our group to people who share these values. If your an employee or a volunteer or associated with a non-profit in anyway, these presentations are intend for you. If you know someone who may be interested in this talk, or there is someone involved with a non-profit you've been wanting to talk to about using Free Software, this is your opportunity. If you would like to attend please send an rsvp to: john(a)nimhq.net. Download OpenOffice.org for non-profits flyer (http://nimhq.net/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=openofficetalk-12-03.pdf)

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Re: [wlug] Reasons to buy linux install??
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

Oops! Not reagards.... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > A South Africans take on the Linux pre-install > > > http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4277 > Reagards John > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Reasons to buy linux install??
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

Oops! Not reagards...... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > A South Africans take on the Linux pre-install > > > http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4277 > Reagards John > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Reasons to buy linux install??
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

A South Africans take on the Linux pre-install http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4277 Reagards John

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday March 7th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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