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Re: [wlug] Compiling a kernel for a different machine
by Andrew Thrift 22 Sep '02

22 Sep '02

I do this often on my machines as I have two with Asus P3V4X's that wont compile 2.4 kernels and so have to compile the kernel on another board then FTP it accross. I do: cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.19 make menuconfig make dep && make bzImage && make modules tar -czf ~/kernel.tar.gz * then I ssh into the destined machine, ftp the kernel.tar.gz over to my home directory then. cd /usr/src mkdir linux-2.4.19 tar -xzvf ~/kernel.tar.gz make modules-install && cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19 then edit grub.conf or lilo.conf as usual and point it to the new fandangled kernel. What I do is configure ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Purvis" <matt(a)purvis.co.nz> To: "wlug" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [wlug] Compiling a kernel for a different machine > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Colin Palmer wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Paul MacDonald wrote: > > > > > I would like to compile it on my desktop machine. > > > Apart from making sure it is correctly configured for the laptop hardware, > > > what do I have to do. > > > For instance, "make modules_install" will obviously not magically wisk the > > > modules over to the laptop. > > > What files need to go where? > > > > Since you mention it's a Debian install, 'man make-kpkg' might be > > helpful. Build the kernel and modules into a package file on your desktop > > box, copy that across to the laptop and install it with dpkg. > > Another method, if you're not using Debian, or want to do it manually for > any reason, is to edit the Makefile and change the directory where > modules_install will put the modules. > > Search for INSTALL_MOD_PATH in your Makefile (or specify it before the > "modules_install:" line if there isn't an INSTALL_MOD_PATH in there). For > example: > > INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/tmp/laptop-kernel > > Then run the command "make -n modules_install" to verify that the modules > will go into the right place (the -n option on make will just print the > commands to be executed). When it's correct, run "make modules_install", > then tar up the modules and put them onto your laptop. > > Matt > > >

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Re: [wlug] filesystems for large drives
by Volker Kuhlmann 22 Sep '02

22 Sep '02

> I'd be interested to know what journalling file systems people are using > on large drives and how reliable they've been. reiserfs, very reliable, fast, very easy. Out of the box with quota support, in 3 weeks with acl support out of the box (likewise for xfs, jfs, and ext3). Can put on root fs with zero trouble (been able to do that for years). Also out of the box are xfs, jfs, and ext3. From reading a very few things about journalling filesystems recently I get the impression that ext3 has too many limitations and isn't as well tested as the others. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Re: [wlug] linux backup
by Matthias Dallmeier 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

Daniel Lawson wrote: > Interesting, because perry just wrote a script that does the same thing, > more or less. His looks a lot better tho ;) (uses rsync for suitable > things, has better support for adding in new things to backup, etc) So where can I find a copy of Perry's backup script? And is it written in Perl? -- Matthias

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Secure email transmission, GPG ?
by Andrew Thrift 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

O.k. I have a PHP based web-shop that as an order is entered emails me the credit card details in un-encrypted form. What I want to do is use gpg to encrypt these mails with a secret key so that only I can read them. I have very little knowledge of the workings of PGP/GPG but from perusing the man pages and README I have figured I can take the following approach: 1. An order is entered, PHP dumps data to a temp file 2. gpg is called to encrypt this. 3. encrypted file is sent to myself using unix mail command. Is this the only way of doing it, or is their an easier way? Thanks, Andrew Thrift

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RE: [wlug] Secure email transmission, GPG ?
by Andrew Bryan 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

that might do it... but it seems a little redundant since (it sounds like) the credit card numbers are going to travel in unencrypted plain text from the clients machine to your web server... or are your running SSL over HTTP? -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Thrift [mailto:andrew(a)millenniumtechnology.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:39 To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: [wlug] Secure email transmission, GPG ? O.k. I have a PHP based web-shop that as an order is entered emails me the credit card details in un-encrypted form. What I want to do is use gpg to encrypt these mails with a secret key so that only I can read them. I have very little knowledge of the workings of PGP/GPG but from perusing the man pages and README I have figured I can take the following approach: 1. An order is entered, PHP dumps data to a temp file 2. gpg is called to encrypt this. 3. encrypted file is sent to myself using unix mail command. Is this the only way of doing it, or is their an easier way? Thanks, Andrew Thrift

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Hello,meeting notice
by vinceh 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

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Hard drive
by Craig Box 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

I have a variety of PC bits floating around in my shed. I've got a dumb terminal or two, a couple of AT cases & PSUs with 486SX's and 30 pin RAM in them, a 120mb HDD in my drawer, and they're all taking up space that I'm going to need to free sometime soon. Free to a good home. Email off list if you want anything (Someone, please... ) There's almost enough guts here for someones first Linux router, although I'm sure you could pick up a Pentium class machine for about the same price. Might also be good for smashing. BTW, have I missed the radio club's sale day? Craig

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Radio Club Surplus Sale
by Lynette Mckenna 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Is that this weekend?

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Kspread sheets
by Dave Foxcroft 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hi, My name is Cindy. I am curious as to the difference between linex kspreadshets and windows excel spreadsheets. In excel you can freeze frames, can you do this in linex? I have tried the help thingie, but cant get direction like I can with excel? Should I give up? Can anyone there help me? Cindy alias Desperate

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Re: [wlug] Memory Error?
by Paul MacDonald 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

> duel boot heh, sounds about right. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Heise" <fordfairlanelover(a)yahoo.co.nz> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: [wlug] Memory Error?

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Re: [wlug] cups
by V K 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

> I am running cups as the printer daemon under Suse 8.0. Rpm -q cups > reveals version 1.1.12-69 is installed. Ensure your yast modules for cups are current. There were updates. Did you use yast to configure it or did you do it the long way? http://sdb.suse.de/de/sdb/html/jsmeix_print-cups.html http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/jsmeix_print-cups.html might tell you something. I briefly switched to cups and didn't think it was as well supported, I didn't like it and went back to lprng. lprng does page counting by default, though I'd find it much more useful if it accounted for the ink used as paper costs nothing in comparison... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Re: [wlug] SMTP server
by Paul MacDonald 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

Thank you to all those who offered suggestions on this subject. I have got permission from the local admin to use their SMTP server when not at home. When at home I can either use the ISP's server or set up my own. So all is now well. Now I just gotta figure out Mutt... looks good though. Paul.

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linux cd's
by SG 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Hi all Hey long time no see.. great to see all the development going on and the excellent wlug wiki web pages! Easy to navigate ones way around.. I would like to get a recent copy of Red Hat or Mandrake off someone to set up at home and work if poss.. would be cool.. Also.. does anybody know or worked with a distro called RTLinux... for real time programming stuff. - possibilities for where I work :) Cheers Simon

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Re: [wlug] GPG test
by Oliver Jones 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

It does not appear to. But we can't expect too much for version 1.0.x Does evolution not automagically d/l keys on demand? I know I've got mutt set up to (which puts an annoying pause in while it d/l's it when I get a message from someone new) -- Oliver Jones > Senior Software Engineer > Deeper Design Limited. oliver(a)deeper.co.nz > www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Paul MacDonald 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hmm, I don't see a button for this in Hotmail. ;-) BTW, does anyone know of free e-mail accounts that are not WWW browser based? Though it would be good to have in addition to POP3 et al. P. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [wlug] Debian /etc/*
by Paul MacDonald 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hmm, perhaps I should clarify this. Could still boot original install of Debian. cp /etc/* /mnt/hdb1/etc/ (with recursion option on -r or -R ...I forget) ^^^^win98 install with spare space. Re-install - everything on ext2 partitions. cp -f /mnt/hdb1/etc/* /etc/ problems begin... --- I have been thinking since my initial post. Another re-install will be the least troublesome way to remedy this. I was hoping to fix it the tricky way but that doesn't seem to have served well so far. :-) Oh well, a lesson learned. Fortunately I found a utility (now where did I put that...) to read ext2 partitions from windows so all that apt-get over modem is not wasted. Seeya, Paul. --- >From: Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> >Reply-To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >Subject: Re: [wlug] Debian /etc/* >Date: 19 Jul 2002 17:11:04 +1200 > >Question: Why on earth did you have your /etc on a FAT partition in the >first place??? > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Oliver Jones 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Naughty perry: This message is digitally signed but can not be proven to be authentic. gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) gpg: armor header: Comment: Only when you are sure they have you, can you stop being paranoid gpg: Signature made Fri 19 Jul 2002 21:12:52 NZST using DSA key ID 2F33F144 gpg: BAD signature from "Perry Lorier (Local network) <perry(a)coders.tla>" I imported your key as you posted it on the Wiki and it doesn't seem to work. Or you're using a different key to sign you message to the list. On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 21:12, Perry Lorier wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I figured I might as well start using this little GnuPG thing... > I used to use my gpg key a lot, but had problems with OE not being able to read my emails, which sucks, since one of the major reasons I wanted it was to email votes for various projects I'm associated and the person that collated the ballots used OE. Uh. > I've added a link to my public key on my Wiki Page... > http://coders.meta.net.nz/wlug/OliverJones I just included mine on my page :) > My email client (Evolution) even supports GnuPG quite well. I beleive you > can get some sort of plugin for Mozilla. mutt supports it really well too, and supports it according to the RFC, unfortunately, OE doesn't, and doesn't show the email at all :( Recently however mutt has added an option to do it stupidly that OE can (hopefully) read. This is one of my first test emails with it :) > Outlook Express on the other hand doesn't have a clue what's going on... Shouldn't be a problem for this list, right? <runs, grinning and ducking> - -- <doogie> Debian - All the power, without the silly hat. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Only when you are sure they have you, can you stop being paranoid iEYEARECAAYFAj032BQACgkQcAgRpy8z8USGNgCbBWssUgozEUk7DktuembqRqrd rZAAoIp21NYAVxUEr5aF9/tx769KLFmO =i67V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Oliver Jones > Software Engineer > Deeper Design Limited. oliver(a)deeper.co.nz > www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Craig Box 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

> > If you must use a windows email client, The Bat! supports PGP key's very > > nicely. > > > > Ah, I don't use Windows email clients, or in fact windows at all, the > problem is people using windows who can't read my emails :( Especially when people exploit a bug in Outlook's mime routines to hide their messages for anyone who doesn't want to have to run them through "View Source"! I've disabled the priority column in my message view because of you, too :) Personally, in the most part, I trust that you're really you, and have always considered PGP unnecessary for day to day use. I'd like an e-mail client to hide PGP blocks and perhaps just tell me if a message is signed or unsigned automatically. Craig

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GPG/PGP Key Signing
by Craig Mckenna 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

I'm interested in getting some more signatures on my GPG keys anyone interested in signing/ having me/others sign theirs, bring your passport and GPG/PGP fingerprint with you to WLUG meeting on monday I'm going to attempt to write up some notes on the Wiki[1] about how to sign keys etc [1] http://coders.meta.net.nz/wlug/ -- -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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Re: [wlug] installing Mandrake
by Gian Perrone 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

You should be able to, although it might be a good idea to check out a Linux hardware compatability list (url, anyone?). Otherwise it could be that the X server is bombing out, in which case it should be leaving error messages for you. Cheers, Gian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan White" <moele(a)paradise.net.nz> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [wlug] installing Mandrake > I am trying to install Mandrake 8.0 onto a Toshiba Satellite 4000 cds laptop computer and am having a little trouble. > I have it working but it only seems to be installed as text. Somebody told me yesterday that this > particular laptop may not be compatible with linux. > I have it dual booting with windows 98 on a 233 pentium 2 processor with 64mb ram. > It has a Chips & Technologies 65555 PCI [Display adapter] > Can anyone tell me if I should be able to install Linux on it and how do I make Mandrake install > something that looks similar to windows. > Thank you, Allan White

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Re: [wlug] The Waikato Wlug Wiki
by Paul MacDonald 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

weeee, this thing is cool. Does anyone know how to post text verbatim (to a wiki page)? i.e. tell the wiki to ignore formatting commands for the whole document? P. >From: Perry Lorier <perry(a)coders.net> >Reply-To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: [wlug] The Waikato Wlug Wiki _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Part-Time Work (Off-Topic)
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Hello there, Apologies for the Off-topic Post but, I thought I might place this post to the list before I publically advertise this position in the newspapers. Net4U Limited is looking for a Part Time Staff at the moment. The person would be required to attend to helpdesk enquiries a typical ISP would encounter. A brief job description is as follows: The support staff will be required to run a helpdesk for Net4U from home (more information on how we intend to do this can be obtained by e-mailing me). The person should have knowledge of configuring Dialup/ADSL Connections on various operating systems. Linux knowledge is a bonus, however you won't need "hi-tech" skills. Knowledge on Frame/ATM Networks would also be an advantage. You don't have to be a 100% technical minded person, we can make you one in no time provided you are somebody who is trustworthy and keen to learn and work in a team environment of 3 other staff. Regards, Sahil Gupta Net4U Limited --------------------------------------------------------------------- Net4U Limited - New Zealands Premier Internet Service Provider -- Home of the new $24.95 Global Dialup / JetStart Service -- Visit http://www.net4u.co.nz for further information ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [wlug] administrivia
by James Spooner 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I'm a fan of Reply-to Munging. ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Jones To: Mr. Daniel Lawson Cc: Waikato Linux Users Group Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [wlug] administrivia I'm not a fan of Reply-to munging. Even though I get caught out and don't press reply to all sometimes. But I don't really care either way. Later

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Library
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Can we not request the Hamilton City Council / Waikato University to allot us some space that is for the members of the WLUG? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Net4U Limited - New Zealands Premier Internet Service Provider -- Home of the new $24.95 Global Dialup / JetStart Service -- Visit http://www.net4u.co.nz for further information --------------------------------------------------------------------- On 24 Jun 2002 colinp(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206242315560.23291-100000(a)helium.element.meta.net.nz> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:19:08 +1200 > From: "<s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>" <say1(a)goblin.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-Id: <E17McAx-0007IQ-00(a)orc.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > X-BeenThere: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz > List-Id: wlug <wlug.list.waikato.ac.nz> > List-Post: <mailto:wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > List-Subscribe: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>, > <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=subscribe> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>, > <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug> > List-Help: <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=help> > > > > 3) WLUG Library. > > > > We've noticed that DunLUG have a very extensive members-only library. This > > is a Good Idea (TM). Its probably not doable out of members subscriptions > > alone, so we need some form of sponsorship. This is perhaps the biggest > > incentive for people to pay their subs, so its a good one to chase up > > I'm on the committee of the ACM student chapter at Waikato and we've had a > great deal of success in getting things for our library (especially software > development kits from people like Apple and microsoft) by just by asking > companies. If you're looking for technical type books, use the something > like Barnes & Noble / Amazons Associates to raise money? > > stuart > > > -- stuart yeates <s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> aka `loam' > "To err is human--but it feels divine." -- Mae West > X-no-archive:yes > >

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Re: [wlug] Debian Apt Archive
by Glenn Ramsey 15 May '02

15 May '02

Hi Matt, You can do this with dpkg-scanpackages, and then you put a line like deb file:/path/to/.deb/files icantrememberwhatthisdoes/ in your /etc/apt/sources.list or something like that. Another (much better IMO) solution for the future is to use apt-proxy, it has some nice features for automatically keeping your archive dir clean. g Matt Brown wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a package archive that apt has built on my debian box over a few > months of use etc, I am now installing a new machine and want it to use > those packages as a repository so I don't have to download all ~400MB > again over my 56k modem. > > I heard rumours about a tool that put these packages into a format the > apt/deselect would recognise and access from another computer - is this > true? Can anyone tell me how I might do this? > > Thanks > > Matt -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.com> 025 263 1932 http://www.componic.co.nz 07 868 3881

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