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Re: Next WLUG Meeting: Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux (Monday 27 October)
by Gerwin van de Steeg 06 Oct '03

06 Oct '03

Another addition would be about the modification for the dansguardian content filter available which adds antivirus scanning of webpages visited using the MailMonitor system so supports both ClamAV and other AV software. Craig, If you need some help give us a yell Gerwin

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2 hard drives
by Gene Smith 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi Guys. If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other? _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

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FW: Motherboards et al
by Lindsay Druett 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Hi All, Have any of you had and bad/good experiences with building a Linux Workstation using any of the following motherboards ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Garry Konings [mailto:Garry.Konings(a)nz.logical.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:41 > To: Lindsay Druett > Subject: RE: Motherboards et al > > > Thanks Lindsay > > I have been looking at some Intel P4 MoBO options:- > > Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 > Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 > Gigabyte GA-8INXP > Asus P4S8X > Asus P4C800 Deluxe, or P4C800-E Deluxe > Abit IC7, or IC7-G > Intel 865PERLL > AOpen AX4SPE > > Anybody you know used any of these for Linux before? Which distro? > > Cheers > > Garry >

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Testing
by Craig Mckenna 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Sorry to interrupt, just testing some changes to our mail server :) -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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Linux Kernel 2.6.0
by Daniel Lawson 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

The new linux kernel stable branch, 2.6.0, is nearly here. It is currently in the 2.6.0-test stage. I've been running a 2.6.0 test kernel on and off for a couple of weeks now, and thought I'd mention it on list to encourage those who feel up to it to try it out. Some new features that I've noticed: * Crypto API support, for encrypted filesystems and IPSec * (IPSec) * /sys filesystem - like the contents of /proc/sys * Much better ACPI support * STCP (Stream Control Transmission Protocol) * Improved networkin * IPv6, netfilter for IPv6 * netfilter for bridges? * ALSA sound drivers have been merged * ext2 / ext3 extended attribute and ACL support * (I think) better firewire / usb2 support * ATAPI cdwriting - no need for scsi emulation any more There's a whole lot more too, i'm sure -thats just what I can remember. It seems stable, although I have odd things happen every now and then (like, a segmentation fault when rmmod'ing a module - all subsequent module operations (lsmod, rmmod, modprobe) lock up. reboot needed. oops). Certainly, once the test kernels have finished and 2.6.0 is declared "stable", this should be a good kernel. On my gentoo box, the only thing I needed to upgrade was modutils. Your mileage may vary for other distros, so make sure to read the kernel changelog and update any packages required! I think some distros (RedHat ?) have binary kernel targets for 2.6.0 already Daniel

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Slackware 9.1
by S Swami 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

The latest version is now out. I'm thinking about subscribing to support my favourite linux distro: approx US$35 per release (includes postage) - 1 or 2 releases per year. If anyone wants to share in the subscription, please mail me offlist. Cheers, Sid Swami. (poor student)

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by Jodi Thomson 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

It's been a while since I've played with it but Peanut linux may do the job. Can be installed on an existing windows partition http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/ Jodi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Jodi W. Anderson, Mr (BA, A+, MCP) - Computer Systems Consultant Waikato University Library - Computing Operations Group Ph: +64 7 838 4323 email: jodi(a)waikato.ac.nz "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before." > -----Original Message----- > From: John R. McPherson [mailto:jrm21(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz] > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 1:10 p.m. > To: wlug > Subject: Re: [wlug] linux within windows > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 01:05:35PM +1200, David Nicholls wrote: > > Basically my problem is this: > > I have an academic who is running win2k. He also has just > purchased a > > scientific program that runs in linux. However he also > does not want > > to have to dual-boot or purchase anthing more. Thinking > along these > > lines > > > as far as both he and I could remember, mandrake allowed > you to create > > an image that you could load to from within windows and was doing a > > lot of marketing on this ability a while back. I haven't seen > > anything more about this on their site, so I don't know about this > > anymore. In the end I just need to know if it can be done > with any of > > the distros rather than a VM of some sort. > > Ah, academics eh? > > an early way to run linux was to run it from dos, using the > loadlin.exe program. However, that is pretty much equivalent > to dual booting. > > I would suggest that he runs the linux software remotely on > linux machine and use an X server for windows to access the > remote machine and view the result. > > The cygwin xfree86 port works very well. > > John >

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by David Nicholls 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Basically my problem is this: I have an academic who is running win2k. He also has just purchased a scientific program that runs in linux. However he also does not want to have to dual-boot or purchase anthing more. Thinking along these lines as far as both he and I could remember, mandrake allowed you to create an image that you could load to from within windows and was doing a lot of marketing on this ability a while back. I haven't seen anything more about this on their site, so I don't know about this anymore. In the end I just need to know if it can be done with any of the distros rather than a VM of some sort. Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: mglb1-forwarding Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 12:51 pm If you want a real virtual machine that allows you to install anything you might want to look at something like VMware. It's not free in any sense of the word but it works really well and allows you to play with a lot more than just linux. You can download a 30 day evaluation copy from their website.

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by David Nicholls 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

I have a question as a follow on from my mandrake one... Is there any distro that can be installed into an image within windows and then run like an emulator I guess. Ie run it and it opens up the image of a linux drive from within windows, you have your filesystem/partitions created etc. all within the image. Hope this makes sense. Cheers... david

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yoper ok
by Gene Smith 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi guys, I ran the yoper installation disk last night.... it's not to bad. But I can't seem to get the sound card to work .... it says its not configured. how do you configure it? (sound blaster live 5.1). and cd won't mount with an audio cd in it. thanks Gene _________________________________________________________________ Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

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graphics speed
by Glenn Ramsey 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi, I have a scientific visualisation app (cgui from http://www.bioeng.auckland.ac.nz ) that I have tested on 3 different machines and I have found that the graphics performance is opposite to what I expected. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers about how to figure out what might be causing the slowness on 2 of the machines. The machines are: 1. Compaq Presario 2100 series laptop. Athlon XP 2400, 512Mb Ram, Ati Radeon IGP320M. The accelerated features of this graphics chipset are not supported by XFree86. 2. PC with AMD Duron 900 + Matrox GA400 graphics adpator. 3. PC with Athon XP 1800, running Xvnc 3.3.6. Viewed across 100 Mbit ethernet from vncviewer on Windows. The thing that is confusing me is that when viewing a shaded bezier surface the best performance is on machine 3 - using vnc. I would have expected machine 1 at least to have equivalent performance to machine 3 given that the rendering is being done in software in both cases. But it is noticably a lot slower on machine 1, any ideas why that might be? I haven't done any framerate measurements, the "test" I used was to load a human torso model and rotate it with the mouse. Machine 2 was the slowest at this task, so apparently there is no hardware support for shading in the mga driver or the driver doesn't like my hardware. Machine 2 does however run glxgears the fastest. Any suggestions appreciated. g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Information on printing to X-Terminals
by Andrew Thrift ＠ Millennium 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi All, I am researching the viability of a POS system using a terminal server and remote X-Terminals with Touch Screens, each terminal would need a receipt printer. Can anyone provide me with some good links to sites regarding remote printing with X ?? Thanks. Regards, Andrew Thrift

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Re: [wlug] mandrake as an image within windows
by JaredWigmore 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

--- David Nicholls <davidn(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > hi everyone. i always understood that mandrake > could be installed as an > image within a windows partition (not that its the > most ideal way but i > have someone who needs this sort of thing for > preference), and could be > launched from win. does this still hold true?> [snip] > any help appreciated. You can mount a Linux filesystem from a file (image) (indeed, most boot floppies do so); and there's a program called loadlin.exe which can be started in DOS mode with some shortcut-fiddling. I'm not sure how to set this up in Mandrake though (or any installer for that matter:(). ===== -- JaredWigmore -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/S d? s+++:-- a? C++++ UL++ P--- L++ E>+++ W++ N>+ o? K- w--- O? M-- V-- PS-- Y-- PGP- t+++ 5? X R* tv b++ DI D G e- h! !r z- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.wlug.org.nz/JaredWigmore http://AnswersInGenisis.org/ http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search

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mandrake as an image within windows
by David Nicholls 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

hi everyone. i always understood that mandrake could be installed as an image within a windows partition (not that its the most ideal way but i have someone who needs this sort of thing for preference), and could be launched from win. does this still hold true? am i hallucinating? need slapping? or is there another distro that does this? any help appreciated. cheers... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant School of Science & Technology/Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

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Waikato Linux Users Group Incorporated Committee for 2004
by Craig Box 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Congratulations to the following people, who were tonight voted in as the Executive Committee for the WLUG for 2004: President: Daniel Lawson Vice-President: Jamie Curtis Treasurer: Craig McKenna Secretary: Craig Box General Committee: Perry Lorier Matt Brown Phil Murray Greig McGill John McPherson The minutes will be done tomorrow sometime and will be made available to the members via a post to this mailing list, in accordance with the charter. Thanks to everyone who came. Craig

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WLUG meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Today is 22/09/2003 The WLUG meeting is tonight WLUG AGM, all invited! 2 Grey St (Open2View Offices), corner of Cobham Drive, behind the big wooden fence. Park on Grey St. Agenda for the AGM: * Membership signup/collection of subscriptions * Welcome * Chairpersons Report * Changes to Charter * General Business * Committee Elections Remember your $20 subscription fee. _________________________________________________________________ See Also OldMeetingTopics _________________________________________________________________

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AGM tonight
by Craig Box 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Hi everyone, A number of people have emailled me privately saying they are new users and they're intereted in the LUG. I hope you're all on this list. Regarding the AGM tonight, there won't be any presentation as such, nor will there be any set time for dealing with peoples Linux problems. However there will be a lot of people there that you might want to come along and meet, no doubt there'll be a couple of computers up that you can have a play with and we'd like to encourage as many people as possible to come along and join the society. So while there will be a couple of issues that you're unaware of, hopefully you'll get an idea of what the society is like, and might even like to consider getting involved. Regards Craig WLUG Secretary

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Debian
by Terry Cole 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

My technician at school is looking for the debian cd's. If he provides the some blank cd's can someone burn them? Cheers Terry Cole Rotorua, New Zealand mailto:terry(a)cole.gen.nz mailto:kay(a)cole.gen.nz http://www.cole.gen.nz http://www.websnz.com

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Meeting tonight - Apology
by wayne.luxton 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

I would like to apologise for not getting to the meeting tonight but am keen to pay a sub. Where to? It should be tax deductible? Also do you know the Green Party has been asking questions in Parliament about Departments looking into Linux and has recently made a press release. See www.greens.org.nz Cheers Wayne Luxton 8 Wiseley Place Morrinsville.

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debian cd
by Terry Cole 21 Sep '03

21 Sep '03

Hi all, I was after a debian woody install cd, I live in Rotorua, so if anyone has a copy over here can I copy it? Johnathan C/O Terry Cole ICT Technician Western Heights High School mailto:tcole(a)whhs.school.nz www.whhs.school.nz

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RE: [wlug] Warehouse sale of old computer books
by Gene Smith 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

Your'e a funny guy >From: "Lindsay Druett" <lindsayd(a)waikato.ac.nz> >Reply-To: wlug <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >To: <rod-a(a)hnpl.net>, "wlug" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >Subject: RE: [wlug] Warehouse sale of old computer books >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:51:22 +1200 > >Any books with cracked CDs ? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roderick Aldridge [mailto:rod-a(a)hnpl.net] > > Sent: Friday, 19 September 2003 08:34 > > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: [wlug] Warehouse sale of old computer books > > > > > > The Hillcrest branch of the Warehouse has a table full of old > > computer > > books going for $15 to $35. Most are too old to be of any > > interest but > > there could be some that are still useful. Most of the > > O'Reilly books are > > there - Running Linux, Perl, Unix Power Tools etc, lots of > > programming > > books - MYSQL, XML, etc and lots of Windows stuff. > > Running/Using (I can't remember which) Red Hat Linux 6 was there but > > unfortunately I didn't see any of the "Unleashed" Linux series. > > Somebody might find something useful to themselves or the proposed > > WLUG library. > > > > Roderick Aldridge _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list > > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlu> g > > > > >_______________________________________________ >wlug mailing list >wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with XtraMSN Personals!

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(no subject)
by kpintch 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

Hi I am just starting with Linux and am having trouble loading the programs as well as needing many questions answered. Is there anyone who can help with Mandrake 9.1? I can telephone if you send me a land line number and convenient time to call. Thanks Leslie Sherwood 09 232 6535 kpintch(a)clear.net.nz

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Warehouse sale of old computer books
by Roderick Aldridge 18 Sep '03

18 Sep '03

The Hillcrest branch of the Warehouse has a table full of old computer books going for $15 to $35. Most are too old to be of any interest but there could be some that are still useful. Most of the O'Reilly books are there - Running Linux, Perl, Unix Power Tools etc, lots of programming books - MYSQL, XML, etc and lots of Windows stuff. Running/Using (I can't remember which) Red Hat Linux 6 was there but unfortunately I didn't see any of the "Unleashed" Linux series. Somebody might find something useful to themselves or the proposed WLUG library. Roderick Aldridge

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RE: [wlug] Warehouse sale of old computer books
by Lindsay Druett 18 Sep '03

18 Sep '03

Any books with cracked CDs ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Roderick Aldridge [mailto:rod-a(a)hnpl.net] > Sent: Friday, 19 September 2003 08:34 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] Warehouse sale of old computer books > > > The Hillcrest branch of the Warehouse has a table full of old > computer > books going for $15 to $35. Most are too old to be of any > interest but > there could be some that are still useful. Most of the > O'Reilly books are > there - Running Linux, Perl, Unix Power Tools etc, lots of > programming > books - MYSQL, XML, etc and lots of Windows stuff. > Running/Using (I can't remember which) Red Hat Linux 6 was there but > unfortunately I didn't see any of the "Unleashed" Linux series. > Somebody might find something useful to themselves or the proposed > WLUG library. > > Roderick Aldridge _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlu> g > >

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Konqueror - Domino Webmail
by Felix Hohener 18 Sep '03

18 Sep '03

I am using Gentoo and Konqueror for browsing. When I am accessing the Domino Server (R6, running on Win2000 Server) at work to read the mail via Konqueror, the Java applet for the buttons does not download and install. This results that I can only read the messages but not do anything else. Using Mozilla, it works fine in that respect. However, for some reason the fonts and colours are all so badly mucked up, that it is no good for anything (applies to all web pages). Any idea how to get Konqueror to work with these Java applets? Thanks ----------- Felix

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