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RE: Fw: [wlug] [Fwd: Cheap older PC]
by Jodi Thomson 07 Jan '05

07 Jan '05

I've just viewed both www.wlug.org.nz and www2.wlug.org.nz using lynx on RH6.1 without ipv6 compiled in. Jodi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- Jodi W. Anderson, Mr (BA, A+, MCP) - Computer Systems Consultant Waikato University Library - Computing Operations Group Ph: +64 7 838 4323 email: jodi(a)waikato.ac.nz "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before." > -----Original Message----- > From: mglb1-forwarding > Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:20 p.m. > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: Fw: [wlug] [Fwd: Cheap older PC] > > On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 12:54 +1300, Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote: > > I'm still in Windows XP, awaiting Ubuntu to arrival by > snail mail from > > whereever it is dispatched. So, is there an issue of XP > not liking your > > site. > > No, I very much doubt it is XP causing the problem. > > The main difference between > > www.wlug.org.nz and www2.wlug.org.nz is IPv6 dns records > > See > > matt(a)argon:~$ host -t AAAA www.wlug.org.nz > www.wlug.org.nz is an alias for hoiho.wlug.org.nz. > hoiho.wlug.org.nz has AAAA address 2002:cb61:a32::1 > > matt(a)argon:~$ host -t A www.wlug.org.nz > www.wlug.org.nz is an alias for hoiho.wlug.org.nz. > hoiho.wlug.org.nz has address 203.97.10.50 > > Vs > > matt(a)argon:~$ host -t AAAA www2.wlug.org.nz > matt(a)argon:~$ > > matt(a)argon:~$ host -t A www2.wlug.org.nz > www2.wlug.org.nz has address 203.97.10.50 > > So if you can get to www2, but not www then it suggests that you are > possibly having a problem with IPv6. > > Without knowing how your network is setup it is hard to help > you fix it. > Perhaps if you provided some more details regarding your network setup > and your ISP I could help. > > Alternatively, you could just use www2 and be done with it. > > Regards > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel Lawson" <daniel(a)meta.net.nz> > > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: Fw: [wlug] [Fwd: Cheap older PC] > > > > > > > Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote: > > > > > > >I even get a timed out error attempting to get to the > home page. I seem > > to > > > >be able to access the rest of the web ok. > > > > > > > >http://www.wlug.org.n > > > > > > > > > > Sorry if you've already said this, but: > > > > > > Which operating system / distribution are you using, and > which version? > > > Which browser are you using, and which version? > > > > > > (just trying to see if there's an obvious reason for > www.wlug.org.nz to > > > not work for you). > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > Matt Brown > matt(a)mattb.net.nz > Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

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fresh new kernel installation
by SnapafunFrank 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

Finding it difficult to find someone with the patience to help with this so thought I would try local talent: In the past, whenever I wanted to compile a `new` kernel, I would first up do: # urpmi kernel-source-2.6-n Then do: # urpmi kernel The kernels were not the latest release and of course rpm's were available. Because of my usb concerns I thought I would `install` kernel-2.6-10 - knowing I would have to compile from linux-2.6.10.tar.bz2. So first thing, read the README at least, and straight off I'm lost, though later it looks like my usual one step at a time approach will get there. Here's were I'm lost: "- If you install the full sources, put the kernel tarball in a directory where you have permissions (eg. your home directory) and unpack it" OK - no prob with that. "Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! " Again, no prob, sort of covered that, I thought. "- Make sure you have no stale .o files and dependencies lying around: cd linux make mrproper You should now have the sources correctly installed." Huh! But I've only unpacked the bz2 file into my home directory - how can anything be installed at this point? Just in case I'm having a braindead week : "BUILD directory for the kernel: When compiling the kernel all output files will per default be stored together with the kernel source code. **[ Fair enough ]** Using the option "make O=output/dir" allow you to specify an alternate place for the output files (including .config). Example: kernel source code: /usr/src/linux-2.6.N build directory: /home/name/build/kernel ** [ Possibly not something I might require but better remember, just in case ] ** To configure and build the kernel use: cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.N ** WOAH - WAIT UP- where in blue blazes did the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.N come from - yes. I have directories for previous versions here but certainly not this one yet. So right now I have the bz2 file in my /home/frank/src/ directory, have it unpacked and I thought ready to go????? So I go back and re-read things and find: " If you install the full sources..... " Right back at the beginning. The only file I have found is the bz2 file, how can I have already installed the full sources. I thought they were part and parcel of the bz2 file and as yet had to be installed. Lost - braindead - BOTH. Any one want to do the rear seat kicking here? -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213

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/etc/init.d/rcS error
by Nigel Nguyen 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

Hi all, Yesterday, I did nothing special with the computer... However, this morning, something special came to me when I booted it up "/etc/init.d/rcS line 227: /sbin/fsck fsck failed. Please repair manually ... "more text"... " Does anyone got any idea what the problem is this and how to get over ? Thanks lot people Nigel -- Ask not what the computer can do for you Ask what you can do with your computer.

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NZ mirror linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz ?
by Nigel Nguyen 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

I just notice a couple days ago: Is this new zealand mirror: linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz ? Why didnt they announce it somewhere ? hum, disconnect from my current netlogin. login as user(a)jetstreamgames.co.nz , playing games (BF1942) and downloading linux...well pretty fast and got a couple of linux distro to play with :) now next time gentoo install must be very fast :)) for me ... Nigel -- Nigel Nguyen Email: nigel(a)nigelnguyen.org Website: www.nigelnguyen.org Phone: +64 21 484628 Ask not what computer can do for you, Ask what you can do with your computer.

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Fw: [wlug] [Fwd: Cheap older PC]
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

> Hi again Craig. I still cant view the http://www.wlug.org.nz/GarageSale/ > site. I get a message "The operation timed out when attempting to contact > www.wlug.org.nz" > > While I may not be able to attend the WLUG meeting, we will be through to > Hamilton from Taumarunui the last Saturday in January. We may be able to > make a point of seeing you then, it that suits. > Linz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Box" <craig(a)dubculture.co.nz> > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [wlug] [Fwd: Cheap older PC] > > > > > We have been giving some thought to buying a SECOND HAND older > > > computer - something like a 500mhz machine - to put a full Linux > > > system on, if we cant get the LIVE versions I am tinkering with to > > > operate to the point of being able to send/receive email and view the > > > occasional website. > > > I have had some suggestions to where I might get something, from list > > > members, but so far what I have viewed have been beyond our currents > > > 'means.' > > > > I have a K6-2-500 PC that is surplus to requirements, which you can take > > away from the next WLUG meeting for the one off price of nothing. It will > > not be pretty - it will be about as quick as a P2-350 from memory. > > > > Otherwise there are often people on this list with computers they are > giving > > away for a song- unfortunately I've just got rid of all of mine. If you > > check our buy/sell/exchange page at http://www.wlug.org.nz/GarageSale/ you > > will see where these transactions are normally carried out. If you still > > can't see the web site, that's the first thing we need to fix! > > > > If, however, you do have a bit of money to spare, one of those $850 Dell > > computers would give you an experience ten times better than what you'd > get > > out of an old P2 machine. Linux would have a much better reputation if > more > > people could/would try it on better specced machines. > > > > Craig > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 26/12/2004 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 > >

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DVD playback under linux
by Daniel Lawson 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

Santa was nice to me this year and gave me a Pioneer DVR-108 for christmas. After installing this into my gentoo box, I was fairly happy to see that I could run gmplayer dvd:// And have it start playing the dvd. However, it appears that mplayer isn't so good at playing the root menu. After some discussion on IRC, totem was suggested. I'd never really liked totem, and had found mplayer a much better player, but I tried it. Currently it seems that DVD playback with the gstreamer backed to totem is dead. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71519 implies rebuilding totem without gstreamer support should do the job, but that seems tedious. Does anyone have any experience with DVD playback under linux? (distro agnostic, I'd just like to see what software/versions people are using) Daniel PS: Happy New Year - was going to claim FP for 2005 but I see Perry was posting at 3am.

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[Fwd: Cheap older PC]
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

We have been giving some thought to buying a SECOND HAND older computer - something like a 500mhz machine - to put a full Linux system on, if we cant get the LIVE versions I am tinkering with to operate to the point of being able to send/receive email and view the occasional website. I have had some suggestions to where I might get something, from list members, but so far what I have viewed have been beyond our currents 'means.' Further suggestions would be appreciated. Linz -- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826 -- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826

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I am looking to buy a DVD Writer
by Ron Dean 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

What brands work with linux or doesn't it matter

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No Sound with Totem-Xine
by Nigel Nguyen 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Hi all, have any body experienced with No-Sound Xine ? I have just install xine & totem-xine on my ubuntu. However, when I play a .asf file the weird thing happen: the pictures is excellent but there is no sound at all (even though, the system sounds is loud and clear) both in xine & totem-xine. As suggestion on the internet I try to pass option in .totem_config & .xine/config to enable alsa driver, but so far no help. When I tried switch back to totem-gstreamer with gstreamer-ffmpeg, the file is playing with sound and pictures is good for the 15sec then, the sound start sluggish... & I don't like gstreamer backend. Any idea to fix the problem ? Thanks lots, Nigel

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

The WLUG mailing list is the discussion-list extension of the Waikato Linux Users Group. As such, we expect members of this list to adhere to the principles espoused in our official Charter[1], in particular, Rule 6, which covers the activities on this mailing list. While this is an Acceptable Use Policy, the WLUG committee do recognise the need for informal discussion among list members, and draconian administration is not the goal of this policy. Please keep in mind, however, that your comments to this list do represent the WLUG, and while it is good to be seen as an organisation with a sense of humour, some comments may do serious harm to our credibility as a serious advocate of GNU/Linux and all things Free Software/Open Source related. List discussion: * Should not commit slander or libel against any person or organisation * Should not be unprofessional or petty, especially with respect to the names of other software companies * Should not indulge in ad hominem attacks * Should not reproduce copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder * Should not indulge in marketing or advertising, other than on a private sale basis, or advertising of jobs - which may be announced once only. * Should maintain a reasonable level of spelling and grammar * Should be honest * Should not promote or denigrate political, cultural, or religious views * Should not continue inflammatory or abusive threads * Should accentuate the positive, without hyperbole or blatant misrepresentation Posters who consistently violate these guidelines will be dealt with at the discretion of the List Maintainer. If you feel you have been unfairly dealt with, you have recourse to any member of the WLUG Committee[2]. [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter [2] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCommittee

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What distro is best fit for amd64?
by Nigel Nguyen 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I gonna get a new desktop with AMD64 cpu. However, I just wonder what distro will be best fit for it ? So far, I got two recommendation: 1> Yoper as it customize for i686-or-higher (but personally, I don't think i686 will be in par of amd64 arch) 2> Gentoo (compile in 64-bit mode) Anything else? Howevre, if I go for gentoo, then - - Will there be a significant improvement if I compile in 64-bit mode rather than 32-bit with arch=athlon-xp and sse2 enable ? - - If I compile in 64-bit mode, will I be able to install some 32-bit apps on top of that as I heard that some plugins like flash / wma /wmv are not yet availabe for 64-bit & some apps neither (OOo & Cedega/WineX) Thanks lots in advance, Happy holidays, Nigel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB0/ck8Zb1b6sN9OgRAlvxAJ9eFWJMfOWPJIomTTTtmktSSYGPaQCfSMlS tiqxr4Whkvik1PXQx6O169Y= =4MoD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Re: [wlug] ISO meaning
by Stephen Pearce 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

What about incremental writing to cdr under linux .. I have not worked out how to use a cdr as I can under windows .. to act as a large ..non erasable floppy. Stephen

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Linux greeny
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

I started with computers in 1980. DOS was an infant at the time. I started to develop software at the time using Basic, progressed to QuickBasic and now VisualBasic. About four years ago, I put a version of Mandrake Linux on a Windows ME computer. Every knows that ME was a 'virus' of a system. About a month after putting a Linux partition on it, I got a warning that an error had occurred in Linux which could destroy my Windows partition. This had happened several times before and nothing happened when I told it to continue. Bad move. It destroyed my HDD entirely. Since then my wife has said no more Linux on your computers. I recently hunted for a LIVE CD version of Linux and now have two. Mandrake Move - which looks really good, and Ubuntu Live, which is also great, but can access the HDD and has already changed my screen setting from 75hz to 60 and I cant change it back. I think I'll go with the Mandrake - but - I cant get it to recognize my 56k internal Modem now my USB printer. It wont write to the USB memory stick either although it has located it. Someone gave me some instructions for finding my modem, but I'm afraid I was too 'green' to go into action. I'm going to need a 'pictured painted' for me on this. However, if I cant get the setting written to the memory stick, what is the point in trying to use the system? I will have to put in my system and internet settings each time it loads. Not practical! Where do I start? Linz -- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826

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web site
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 26 Dec '04

26 Dec '04

A little bit of help required. We have a new site on Geocities - www.geocities.com/judenlinz I am having difficulty in making a photo appear in the appropriate box. Can anyone assist? I can send the little bit of code to anyone who wishes to contact me personally, so they can peruse it to see what I am doing wrong. May I thank some kind soul/s in advance. Linz

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USB Memory sticks
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

Is it safe to connect and disconnect USB Memory sticks with the power on?

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ISO meaning
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

I haven't been able to discover a glossary to let me know what a .iso file actually is, what .iso stand for. Someone?

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[Fwd: Conference in Sydney Australia, July 2005]
by Oliver Jones 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

If anyone is interested in attending an IEEE conference in Sydney.... -- Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> Deeper Design Limited

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RE: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD
by David Nicholls 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Good lord... I have the ISO at home, would you like me to make you a copy? -----Original Message----- From: Judy & Lindsay Roberts [mailto:judenlinz(a)orcon.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 6:43 am To: Waikato LUG Subject: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD I have downloaded Ubuntu Live Linux which is two files which are about the size of a CD. I have Nero Burning and now wish to make a bootable CD with these two files. What procedure do I use to accomplish this please? Linz _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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ISO meaning
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

I haven't been able to discover a glossary to let me know what a .iso file actually is, what .iso stand for. Someone?

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RE: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD
by David Nicholls 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

I've installed ubuntu before... Very nice and easy to do. As I said if you want a copy of the latest install cd instead of mucking around yourself (why is it 2 files anyway? I just got a single iso file off linuxisos.org) drop me a line. The install is incredibly easy, it's virtually insert cd and leave running. If you want advice or help, I can give some limited help (still learning myself), but I'm more than willing. I suggest you check out some of the reviews that are around to find out about ubuntus little quirks. Ubuntu is based on the debian unstable release, and the code is tweaked a bit to be (of course) more stable. New updates are released every six months. I eventually swapped to suse for various reasons, but plan on installing ubuntu on my next machine. Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Denby [mailto:redhat(a)ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 12:35 pm To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD The best nero trick I know for an iso image is to edit the name name.iso ------> name.nrg nero will then know it is an image and will handle it from there just accept the defaults and let it make the cd (s) But since you seem to be installing onto your hard drive you might want someone to help you here, maybe someone local to you in the lug will be willing to help you with this. > I have downloaded Ubuntu Live Linux which is two files which are about > the size of a CD. I have Nero Burning and now wish to make a bootable > CD with these two files. _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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RE: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD
by David Nicholls 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

That's both the live and the full install cd by the way. Merry christmas all. Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: Judy & Lindsay Roberts [mailto:judenlinz(a)orcon.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 6:43 am To: Waikato LUG Subject: [wlug] Ubuntu Live CD I have downloaded Ubuntu Live Linux which is two files which are about the size of a CD. I have Nero Burning and now wish to make a bootable CD with these two files. What procedure do I use to accomplish this please? Linz _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Shutdown Problem
by Gun Caundle 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

I'm using CentOS 3 When I shut down it hangs at the: 'Sending all processes the TERM signal' (or KILL). I hold in the power button to complete the shutdown. Is this doing any damage to files etc?

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Ubuntu Live CD
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

I have downloaded Ubuntu Live Linux which is two files which are about the size of a CD. I have Nero Burning and now wish to make a bootable CD with these two files. What procedure do I use to accomplish this please? Linz

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Mandrake Move setup
by Judy & Lindsay Roberts 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

I am trying to set up Mandrake Move (Live CD). Several things I dont seem to be unable to accomplish at this stage. 1) Cant set up an Internet connection. I have used the default selections (selected radio buttons). I have an IHUG account for the purpose. I had difficulty finding out where my modem was attached (Windows says Com3). I get this error message 'An unexpected error has happened: output in file /usr/share/config/Kppprc failed: read only file system.' 2) My USB Key is connected, but cant seem to save settings to that at present. It shows up in Konquerer but not in the File Manager (Ksomething or the other). In Konquerer, it will not permit me to copy files from Key to Floppy. Does floppy have to be formatted in special format for that? Konquerer reads the floppy formatted in Dos ok, for I put some text files on it to test. Thats enough for one day I think. Cheers Linz

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Modem for Linux
by lilypatc＠ihug.co.nz 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Hi all I haven't been in touch since the installfest in may? Working all hours and Linux has taken a back seat. I have just got a modem going in the Linux box, Not counting the slow machine with a hardware ISA modem that I took to work for check E-mail at night, Don't want pirate windows in case Micro$oft did an audit so it has Mandrake 10. Showed the other techs that it not so different to windows to use in GUI. Anyway the modem I found is a Pragmatic FMI-IA56 which uses an Intel 536 chipset which Intel suply driver for Linux for, including some precompiled drivers for Mandrake 10 and some other popular distros. They seem to work OK for Mandrake 10. It is a V92 hardware mode (HCF) not the old driverless hardware type. I did have it run a little eratic but the instructions mentioned a reset command "AT&F" which seems to have sorted it. Hope someone finds it usefull Regards David Bowen

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