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CPS
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi Bruce Should explain that I am running Ubuntu 7.04 on my Asus Laptop. Ok, when I go to the add printer setting in the administration menu, When I click on add new printer, it reads the CUPS database and shows that the two printers that I have connected to the Asus via. USB are detected. One being the Brother DCP-115c and the other is my little Xerox Phaser 3115. When I select the Brother printer and click on Forward, it shows in the manufacturers box at the top Brother..which is good. Underneath is the model of printer..cannot see DCP 115c in the menu. According to the Brother website, I should be using the MFC-210 Debian driver (Is this correct..?). Which also isn't listed. Ok, if I need to install CSH, where can I find this package and how do I install it (bearing in mind that I am going to have to transfer any drivers to the machine via. USB stick since I dont't as yet have the network operational on the Asus. Please excuse my ignorance as I have NO experience with CUPS or printing documents in a linux OS environment. T Thanks so much for your help thus far. Glenn.

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RDram
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi All, I am looking for some rdram for a slow computer. Two 128's would help a lot if they were available. Regards John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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Fwd: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)
by Ian McDonald 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

This looks like a good article - haven't worked through all the details but looks useful. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: imcdnzl <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM Subject: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet) To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz, ian.mcdonald(a)datacom.co.nz Sent to you by imcdnzl via Google Reader: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)<http://lwn.net/Articles/307261/rss> via LWN.net <http://lwn.net> by ris on 11/14/08 Microsoft's Technet Magazine has a lengthy article<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/magazine/dd228986.aspx>on authenticating Linux clients with Active Directory. "Originally, Linux (and the GNU tools and libraries that run on it) was not built with a single authentication mechanism in mind. As a result of this, Linux application developers generally took to creating their own authentication scheme. They managed to accomplish this by either looking up names and password hashes in /etc/passwd (the traditional text file containing Linux user credentials) or providing an entirely different (and separate) mechanism." Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to LWN.net<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Flwn.net%2Fheadlines%2…>using *Google Reader* - Get started using Google Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up with *all your favorite sites* -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together
by David Hallett 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together Come and join the Waikato Branch of the NZCS for a get together next Thursday (20th November). Pop along to the Cock & Bull and catch up with others in the Waikato ICT Community. We'd love to hear how NZCS can further support ICT professionals in Waikato, keep you up-to-date on progress on the many NZCS projects (including the introduction of a Competency Framework and international Certification programme), or just come along and catch up with others working in ICT in Hamilton. All Welcome - first drink free! Registration required for catering purposes: http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3846-NZCS_Waikato_ICT_Get_together Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Upgrading from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 on my laptop
by Ron Dean 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Would it be a good idea to upgrade as I have every thing working on my laptop including wireless internet I have already upgraded my Desktop Computer by doing a fresh install and have eventually got everything working but with my laptop I had a considerable amount of help from wlug members. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu 8.10 failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi All My last action was to install 8.04 on the machine and it went in without error and seems to run well. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did > report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was > corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? > John

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Re: [wlug] Thank you
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

I am on the bludge for a pci video card and an agp video card. They do not have to be very upmarket I just want to get away from the shared memory on two of my old computers that I will ultimately be giving away Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > on that note, i have alot of old kit (i dont know if this > is the right place to say so, if not someone tell me > where) sort of pentium 1ish some newer some older, more > keyboards then you can shake a stick at (over every > flavour, mostly ps2) and a hord of jsut other general junk > , i am happy to give it away to anyone who wants it, > either as a whole big pile, or piece meal if there is > something specific you are hunting for, all tallied up > there is easy a big van full.. (i mean hord) so, if anyone > out there is keen, let me know, also if you contact me i > can give you a better idea what is there > > Cheers > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Darryn Brooking > <gible(a)gible.net> wrote: > > > EDay = BAD. > > This is the 3rd? time since that I could have passed on > something I tossed. > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Lawson > <daniel(a)meta.net.nz>wrote: > > >> Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: > >> > Hey Daniel > >> > > >> > Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had > my old win 98 >> > machine that I do my maths work on and > it had a modem, so i thought id >> > give it a bash with > your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a >> > > website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns > out that I had >> > to install netBEUI and install ICS > from the win 98 add new programs >> > menu, but once that > was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had >> > > good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in > my Vista >> > machines network card settings, but once i > had, it connected too. >> > So thank you for all your help > , and to the other members of WLUG who >> > helped me out. > >> > > >> > >> That's ok. > >> > >> As a suggestion for a future project, you could install > linux on an >> older computer (probably best to not > install X, and you might take it as >> a chance to try a > different distribution), and set it up as a router and >> > firewall. Some of the "magic" has gone from this these > days, as there >> are plenty of distributions that are > oriented towards doing this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my > old Dell 133 >> > Laptop, or a serial network connection > if there is such a thing >> > >> $20 on trademe will get you a pcmcia 10/100 ethernet > card. Be careful of >> what you get, a lot of them need a > small custom cable (commonly called a >> dongle) that > connects to the card and provides a physical RJ45 port, > and >> these can either be missing completely, or damaged > - so get a card that >> has a built-in rj45 port > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Junkj
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Andrew, Let us know if your going to chuck anything out. Im a real steptoe. Glenn.

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Thank you
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Daniel Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had my old win 98 machine that I do my maths work on and it had a modem, so i thought id give it a bash with your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns out that I had to install netBEUI and install ICS from the win 98 add new programs menu, but once that was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in my Vista machines network card settings, but once i had, it connected too. So thank you for all your help, and to the other members of WLUG who helped me out. Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my old Dell 133 Laptop, or a serial network connection if there is such a thing Cheers all Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled?
by GJB 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

It could be something to do with setting the software repositories correctly before starting these managers up. I think there should be something called "Sources" or similar on the system menu. It may need these set right before first starting. Maybe just starting is sufficient to get some basic settings and repositories but needs to be restarted before they become effective. Just a theory. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled? > From: Chakat Sandwalker <sandwalker(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 09, 2008 8:32 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > I've been using 8.10 since the second beta came out (I'd bought a new > laptop, and I didn't want to wait two weeks for the final version to be > released before I could install it), and it seems to be having some odd > issues. > > The first one is that Synaptic and related programs, such as the Update > Manager, stop responding when being started for the first time -- > Synaptic will load, but then stop responding before it can load the list > of packages. I have to force it to quit (either by clicking its Close > button, or killing the process). Starting Synaptic again will then > proceed normally. When the Update Manager is used, and 'Install' is > clicked, the download progress dialog is displayed, but is blank and > appears to have stopped responding. Again, clicking its Close button or > killing the process and trying again works. This hasn't happened on the > other computer I installed 8.10 on -- in fact, the other computer > started with Alpha 4. It's just my laptop having issues. > > The second oddity I have is that the first time I click on the Bookmarks > menu in Firefox on my laptop, it always brings up the 'save bookmark' > dialog. It's getting to be quite a nuisance. > > When headphones are plugged into the headphone jack, the main speakers > aren't muted -- both them and the headphones play sound. I'm not sure > if this is a quirk of my hardware or not. Perhaps I'll come to the next > workshop to have it looked at. > > And now my wireless isn't working -- it was when I installed 8.10 (after > I blacklisted the ath_pci driver to force it to use the ath5k driver), > but now it won't even show up as an interface. > > If anyone has any clues about these, I'd appreciate some help, otherwise > I'll wait for the next workshop. > > Sandy > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi All, Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a number of different c/d's First a rc then two final desktops including trying the live versions also an alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain light brown blank screen The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is particularly true of the alternate, the last few files take a long time to config/install. I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have installed puppy linux in two or three times without a problem. Knoppix live works just fine Any help would be appreciated. Regards John

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Daniel Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo ./ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1c:25:e5:71:ee inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21c:25ff:fee5:71ee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:498 (498.0 B) TX bytes:4301 (4.2 KB) Interrupt:17 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) TX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo route -n [sudo] password for glenn: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 219.88.251.16 connect: Network is unreachable glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.2 PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=7.31 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.412 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.384 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.746 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.369 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.397 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.598 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.354 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.354/1.137/7.310/2.061 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.3 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6.25 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.306 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.272 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.258 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.302 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.262 ms --- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.258/0.873/6.250/1.792 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.4 PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=6.26 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.383 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.366 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.374 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.385 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.375 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.372 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.393 ms --- 192.168.0.4 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.366/0.967/6.262/1.765 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ Here is the output from ipconfig on my Windows Vista Laptop....... Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001] Copyright <c> 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Glenn\ipconfig Windows IP Configuration PPP adaptor Kiwi Online Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.150.120.140 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Wireless LAN adaptor Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Ethernet adaptor Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . . . : fe80::2143:794a:d1cb:f50d%8 IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 10: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 11: ntyMedia State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 12: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:ca96:788c:ca96:788c Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c58:6301 C:\Users\Glenn> Thanks for the help. How do I go about installing Samba on my Ubuntu machine? (what commands do I need to type in?) Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Again I managed to get Ibex to install and run on an old amd duron with no real problems so maybe this latest Ubuntu IS a bit of a lottery with older machines. I will try to install Linux mint on the other machine just to see what happens... John -

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

sadly the bios memory setting is maxed out on my machine so am unable to alter memory allocation. John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

OK I will go into the bios and push up the vid card memory and see if that helps John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

the only working option is the cli john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > desktops including trying the live versions also an > alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting > to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain > light brown blank screen > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is > particularly true of the alternate, the last few files > take a long time to config/install. > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > Any help would be appreciated. > Regards John > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Thanks Daniel Will have the output for you later this evening. Thanks all of you for your helpful advise. Glenn.

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

hey all I am trying to get my pppoe working on my desktop computer, everytime I unlock the network settings, and check the pppoe option, as fast as I select pppoe, it unchecks the box. here is the output from lspci relating to my ethernet controller: glenn(a)glenn ~$lspci 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) Now I can see my other computers but I cant access them, althought I can ping them. Why can't I set up pppoe? Any help appreciated. Glenn

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Not sure if this is helpful or not but Clearnet had a recent network collapse resulting in PPP dropping out completely to a large number of users. No amount of resetting would fix the problem until I had spoken with Clearnet's IT people who fixed it from their end.... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi Glenn, > > Please keep this onlist. I'm not the only person that can > help you, and other people can benefit from the answers as > well. > > > > sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access > > them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my > > network, but when I click on those machines, no files or > > directories of the machines that I am trying to access > > appear, like what you would see if you had a properly > configured and set up network. > > > You'll need to enable shared folders on each machine > before you can see them. Follow the notes in my other > email on this. If you can ping the other machine's ip > address, it means your network is working. > > > Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to > > access the internet via my windows laptop, because the > > modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, > > does not have 64bit support, and probably never will > > have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not > willing to release thier source code so that linux > > developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. > > PPPoE won't help you with this. You need to enable > Internet connection sharing on the windows machine. You > can then connect to the internet from windows, and it will > share the connection to other computers on your network - > eg, your linux box. Your linux system will then connect > *over the ethernet network*, through your windows > computer. No PPPoE is involved. > > http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/winxp/ics.aspx > > > > > > As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also > > doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to > > use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple > > of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may > > try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also > unavailable to me. > > You can get USB serial adapters which will let you do > this. > > > > In general, most of these problems stop surfacing now > because very few people still have dialup internet. Most > people have DSL these days, and while a lot of the free > DSL routers you get with your connection are USB based, > it's very easy to purchase a full ethernet router which > will do the job. You used to be able to get dialup routers > which did the same thing (plug a serial modem into them, > they connect to the internet, and share the connection to > your PCs), but I doubt this is a feasible option. > > I'm sorry that we can't be more help remotely. It's hard > enough troubleshooting this stuff via email, but it's also > been years since I did anything involving getting > winmodems to work. > > > If you want to try ICS stuff again, can you please > > * verify that you've set ICS up, sharing the modem with > your LAN, under windows > * run "ipconfig" in a command shell in windows and check > that you have IP addresses allocated - should look like > 192.168.X.Y or 10.X.Y.Z where X Y Z might be anything. > Send me the output from this command > > * run "/sbin/ifconfig " in a terminal in linux and check > that your network interface (probably eth0) has an IP > address that looks very similar to the windows one. Send > me the output from this command. > > * run "/sbin/route -n" in a terminal in linux, and verify > that the line that starts with "0.0.0.0" has your windows > IP address in the second column. Send me the output from > this as well. > > * If the above two tests aren't true, verify that your > network in linux is set to dynamic or automatically assign > or roaming mode (all different names for the same thing, > not sure what you'll see). > > * If the IP address you got above for linux started with > 169, it means that either ICS isn't set up properly, or > your computers aren't connected properly. You've said you > can ping the other computer, so i assume this is probably > OK > > * assuming the "route" test above is correct, you can ping > the windows laptop, and the windows laptop is connected to > the internet, try to ping a computer on the internet. For > example, open a terminal, and run "ping 219.88.251.16". If > that works, you're on the internet just fine. > > * If the above works fine, and you still can't browse the > internet from, say, firefox, then your DNS settings are > probably wrong. Try going to a website by using its IP > address. For example, the WLUG wiki is at 60.234.66.116. > Load up firefox, and go to http://60.234.66.116/. > > * If the above works, then you need to fix your DNS > settings. We'll sort that when we get to it > > * If it doesn't work, then we need to look at other things > still. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hey Daniel, sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my network, but when I click on those machines, no files or directories of the machines that I am trying to access appear, like what you would see if you had a properly configured and set up network. Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me. I will install Samba on my Acer Linux desktop, and have already enabled sharing on my folders on my Windows Vista laptop, however, the problem that I have is that under Heron, I cannot get my pppoe settings to 'stick' as it were, as soon as I click on them, they deselect themselves and uncheck the pppoe box. This is what I am trying to investigate the cause of. This is all very frustrating but I am not going to give up because I believe in the principles behind Linux and the open source software community, I just have to do a heck of a lot of learning FAST. Cheers Glenn.

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