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Sat Workshop
by Ronnie Collinson 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Is it possible to get a lift there (and back) tomorrow from someone, from near the University. Im keen to do the full day again be great if thats possible Thanks Ronnie

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sata to usb
by Ronnie Collinson 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Today at the fixit meeting, someone (iirc it was Rod) had a sata to usb adapter without a enclousure just wondering if you could tell me where you got it as it would be awesome to add to my collection of useful computer tools but cant seem to find one online

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday August 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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What is copyright?
by John Billings 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

If you attended the last WLUG workshop, you might have heard that question and some others, and even recorded your response. If your interested in hearing the finished product, you can listen in to New It Make on Thursday at 2pm, on Community Radio Hamilton, or if you can't wait for that you can download an mp3 from here: http://newitmake.org.nz/site/audio/show/6-episode-four-part-1 I plagiarized the idea from this video: http://questioncopyright.org/public_perception_of_copyright Thanks to those who participated! Best, John

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Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

You need to preface your command with the word sudo then a space that will make you root whilst that job is done. Regards john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi Michael, > > Thanks for that. However how do I make myself root to run > pppconfig? > > > Cheers > > > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael McDonald" <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [wlug] Adding a Serial Modem > > > 2009/7/26 Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz>: > > Yes indeed, I was told at the last WLUG Fixit meeting, > > after someone spent two hours trying to get a driver > > going for a Conextant internal modem and failed, that > getting a serial modem would be trivially easy. However > > this has not proved to be the case and I am getting an > > earful from the groundcrew. > > The last time I installed a serial modem I found that the > most reliable method was using commands:- > 1. pppconfig for setup > 2. pon to connect > 3. poff to disconnect > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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re-scoring music using Rosegarden
by Justin Hyde 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

I want to re-score some music (on paper) from tenor clef to bass clef and would like to use Rosegarden on my Ubuntu box to do this. I have read the tutorial at www.rosegardenmusic.com but I am still finding it hard to work out the basics of writing the music on-screen. Are there any local users of Rosegarden who could assist me? Cheers Justin Hyde

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MythTV PaulQuilty Will be giving a talk on the setup and uses of MythTV. He will take you through ins and outs, basic configuration, and answer any questions. PaulQuilty Also aims to bring a few MythBuntu CDs to give away to anyone interested in setting up their own PVR easily. http://www.mythtv.co.nz http://www.mythtv.org 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

I cannot remember exactly but I think I encountered a similar problem and chose different tty numbers until I got a connection. Hope this is helpful. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > H Michael, > > I got into root and used pppconfig everthing went fine > except the modem was not found automatically and I > manually set it to dev/ttyS1 the offered default value. > Howver when I tired pon I got unrecognized option > '/dev/modem > > Maybe the modem port is not turned on in the BIOS as Bruce > said? > > > Cheers > > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald > > > There is NO root password. > > Open a terminal in your normal user login (Accessories, > Terminal) and type "sudo pppconfig" -- and the password it > asks for is the same one you used to log in. > > 2009/7/26 Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz>: > > Hi Jaytee, > > > > The root password seems to be different from the > > password entered for the user account created when > loading Ubuntu. Is there any way of getting it or > > is known only to the Kernal Maintainers? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Robert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> > > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" > > <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 > > 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald > > > > > >> You need to preface your command with the word sudo > then a >> space that will make you root whilst that job is > done. >> Regards john > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message Follows ----- > >> > Hi Michael, > >> > > >> > Thanks for that. However how do I make myself root to > run >> > pppconfig? > >> > > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Michael McDonald" <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > >> > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" > <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 > 3:56 PM >> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Adding a Serial Modem > >> > > >> > > >> > 2009/7/26 Robert D Davidson > <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz>: >> > > Yes indeed, I was told > at the last WLUG Fixit meeting, >> > > after someone spent > two hours trying to get a driver >> > > going for a > Conextant internal modem and failed, that >> > getting a > serial modem would be trivially easy. However >> > > this > has not proved to be the case and I am getting an >> > > > earful from the groundcrew. >> > > >> > The last time I installed a serial modem I found that > the >> > most reliable method was using commands:- > >> > 1. pppconfig for setup > >> > 2. pon to connect > >> > 3. poff to disconnect > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> > Unsubscribe: > >> > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > ------------------ ---- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > >> > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> > Unsubscribe: > >> > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- -- > > ---- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > -- > Disclaimer: > By sending an email to any of my addresses you are > agreeing that: > 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" > 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I > see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, > or good joke as it lends itself to. > 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of > your company. > 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of > confidentiality that may be included on your message. > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Fun with windows xp..............
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

Thanks Michael, That is very helpful, I would never of thought of the two windows. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > 2009/7/26 <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz>: > > Hi All, > > I am currently trying to recover three hundred media > > files from a windows system that keeps rebooting. > > With Puppy fire-hydrant the machine ran for a long time > > without error. I could access the windows drive and the > > files I wish to recover. The usb drive was mounted and > > had read write permissions. the problem was I could only > > copy ONE file at a time.. > > Puppy 4.2 permits multiple copies. Open two windows, > source and destination folders, select source files, drag > across to destination window and specify copy. > > For some strange reason, Puppy doesn't do it the usual gui > copy & paste way. > > Michael

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Fun with windows xp..............
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

Hi All, I am currently trying to recover three hundred media files from a windows system that keeps rebooting. With Puppy fire-hydrant the machine ran for a long time without error. I could access the windows drive and the files I wish to recover. The usb drive was mounted and had read write permissions. the problem was I could only copy ONE file at a time.. ON to Knoppix which also ran well, I could access the directories and bulk copy the files but could not mount the usb drive for some bizarre reason. Went to windows where everything I needed is available but it started rebooting as soon as it got warmed up.. My next course of action may be to remove the drive from the machine so that I can copy the info directly to another drive. However if some one knows a simple fix for the usb mount in Knoppix I would like to hear from you. Regards John

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Re: [wlug] Fun with windows xp..............
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

Thanks to Bruce and Chris, I will attempt to do the command line stuff and see what happens. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:26:21 jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am currently trying to recover three hundred media > > files from a windows system that keeps rebooting. > > With Puppy fire-hydrant the machine ran for a long time > > without error. I could access the windows drive and the > > files I wish to recover. The usb drive was mounted and > > had read write permissions. the problem was I could only > > copy ONE file at a time.. > > ON to Knoppix which also ran well, I could access the > > directories and bulk copy the files but could not mount > > the usb drive for some bizarre reason. > > Have you tried copy the files using the command line? ie > > Something like > > cp -Rv /mnt/path_to_windows_mounted_file system_files/* > /media/usb/. > > -R recursive (so will include sub directories) > -v verbose (so you can watch what is happening) > > obviously you'll have to amend the file system paths. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

Hi Robert What Michael just said :-) Good luck John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi Jaytee, > > The root password seems to be different from the password > entered for the user account created when loading Ubuntu. > Is there any way of getting it or is known only to the > Kernal Maintainers? > > > Cheers > > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [wlug] Message for Michael MXDonald > > > > You need to preface your command with the word sudo then > > a space that will make you root whilst that job is done. > > Regards john > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > Thanks for that. However how do I make myself root to > > > run pppconfig? > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael McDonald" <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > > > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" > > > <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 > > > 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] Adding a Serial Modem > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/26 Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz>: > > > > Yes indeed, I was told at the last WLUG Fixit > > > > meeting, after someone spent two hours trying to get > > > > a driver going for a Conextant internal modem and > > > failed, that getting a serial modem would be trivially > > > > easy. However this has not proved to be the case and > > > > I am getting an earful from the groundcrew. > > > > > > The last time I installed a serial modem I found that > > > the most reliable method was using commands:- > > > 1. pppconfig for setup > > > 2. pon to connect > > > 3. poff to disconnect > > > > > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------ ---- > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > > > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.28/2259 - > Release Date: 07/24/09 18:24:00 > >

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Jul '09

26 Jul '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MythTV http://www.mythtv.co.nz http://www.mythtv.org

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Free battery recycling
by Eric Light 24 Jul '09

24 Jul '09

Hi all, Recytech is running a free battery recycling service until the end of next month. Drop-off centres in Auckland, Hamilton, Wellington, Christchurch, and Dunedin. Thought you lot might be interested... Might be relevant for the next eDay? http://www.thechannel.co.nz/200907221007/free-battery-recycling-service-lau… Local Hamilton drop-off point is at Easy Technology on London Street. Cheers, - Eric

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MythTV http://www.mythtv.co.nz http://www.mythtv.org

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Looks like we should be interested in this one...
by David Nicholls 15 Jul '09

15 Jul '09

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/15/big_nz_blocklist/

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Paul Fenwick on "Illustrated history of failure"
by Ronnie Collinson 15 Jul '09

15 Jul '09

Hey guys Hears an entertaining clip of a presentation by Paul Fenwick, who did the presesntation on "The art of klingon programming" earlier in the year. http://blip.tv/file/1137169 Thought alot of you guys would get a laugh out of it

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How fast can Linux boot?
by Bruce Kingsbury 15 Jul '09

15 Jul '09

Here's an embedded Linux system that boots in under a second; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14/montavista_boasts_1sec_linux_boot/ It'd be nice to see some of the same ideas applied to the next generation of netbooks.. -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: FW: Google announces Chrome operating system
by GJB 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

When those shiny Chrome things get used and beaten up, rust spots showing through, bits flaking off , etc ... then they start to look real tacky and so yesterday. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FW: Google announces Chrome operating system > From: Simon Green <simon(a)simongreen.name> > Date: Thu, July 09, 2009 11:08 am > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > 2009/7/9 Roderick Aldridge <rod-a(a)hnpl.net> > > > Yes, I think it is a two-edged sword for FOSS. It has the potential to > > split and weaken FOSS - Chrome browser is a competitor of Firefox. > > > > I think it is excellent news. We already have a variety of GUI based browser > (epiphany for gnome and konquerer for KDE). Chromium (the Chrome based > browser for Linux) is a long way off from being production ready though (it > still doesn't support plugins like flash or gears). > > ComputerWorld has an article today[1] about the privacy aspect of ChromeOS. > As it's open source, any one that wants to know what the code is doing can > do so. That's something that Microsoft don't offer. > > -- simon > > [1] > http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/tech/00B8BB6CF3BAACF0CC2575ED006F3D16<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Fwd: FW: Google announces Chrome operating system
by Chris O'Halloran 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

-----Original Message----- From: Roderick Aldridge [mailto:rod-aldridge(a)xnet.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 9 July 2009 9:26 a.m. To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Google announces Chrome operating system Speculation that Google is developing a web-focused operating system is confirmed by the announcement. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html "Google Chrome OS is an open source, lightweight operating system that will initially be targeted at netbooks. Later this year we will open-source its code, and netbooks running Google Chrome OS will be available for consumers in the second half of 2010. ........................... The software architecture is simple - Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel. For application developers, the web is the platform. All web-based applications will automatically work and new applications can be written using your favorite web technologies. And of course, these apps will run not only on Google Chrome OS, but on any standards-based browser on Windows, Mac and Linux thereby giving developers the largest user base of any platform." Big long-term implications for FOSS, Microsoft and many others. Some comments: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/ http://kottke.org/04/04/google-operating-system http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8139711.stm http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/five-things-googles-chrome-os-wil l-do-for-your-netbook/ http://mashable.com/2009/07/07/google-chrome-operating-system/ We live in interesting times. Rod

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Re: [wlug] Modem Error Code 2
by Chris O'Halloran 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

Something like this? http://www.dansdata.com/sharer.htm That useful to know. Cheers, 2009/7/6 Harry Wieldraayer <h.wiel(a)hnpl.net>: > I have used for a long time a IP sharer with my dynalink modem is was a > serial modem > > Could luck

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Modem Error Code 2
by Robert D Davidson 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

Hi Wlug, Can you please tell me what modem error code 2 means and how to fix the problem so I can get my modem to activate in Fedorra. Cheers Robert

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Big stack of HP 9000/300 + HP 9000/400 for sale
by Bryce Utting 04 Jul '09

04 Jul '09

Hi all, See http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=228229857 for details. Am moving, so need to recover some storage pronto. sigh. butting

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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