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Saturday Workshop 2010-09-04
by Bruce Kingsbury 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

Saturday 4th September SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, light lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment. Also we're paying a little extra for hall and internet now, so a gold coin donation to help cover these costs would be greatly appreciated.

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Software Freedom Day progress
by Bruce Kingsbury 28 Aug '10

28 Aug '10

We need to update the information on softwarefreedomday.org and softwarefreedomday.org.nz We've still got a bit of organising to do regarding tables, displays, things to hand out. kiaora dvd is mostly done using the same system-browser autorun as the 2006 cd. I'd still like to clean up the html templates a lot and use the k-meleon cd browser kit, but if we had to it's nearly good enough to hand out as-is. Just a few zips still need to be converted to exe installers and a bit of general tidy-up. 1.7GB of software, plenty of room to add more. Here's the program list. Let me know of anything you think should be added. Office OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 OpenProj 1.4 Scribus 1.3.8 gnucash 2.2.9 Internet firefox 3.6.8 thunderbird 3.1.2 filezilla 3.3.4 emule 0.50a winhttrack 3.43-9C pidgin 2.7.3 Graphics The GIMP 2.6.10 Inkscape 0.47 Pencil 0.4.4b Blender 2.49b Media audacity 1.2.6 Camstudio 2.0 cdEX 1.70b4 DVD slideshow GUI 0.9.3.8 DVD Styler 1.8.1 Handbrake 0.9.4 VirtualDub 1.9.9 VLC media player 1.1.2 Education Alice 2.0 stellarium 0.10.5 Utilities SciTE 2.20 osebox 3.0.0 Toys flightgear 2.0.0 Frets on Fire 1.3.110 The Battle for Wesnoth 1.8.4 tuxpaint 0.9.21 supertux 0.1.3 Lincity NG 2.0 Yo Frankie 1.1b LAN winscp 4.2.8 PuTTY 0.60 -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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KPPP and modems
by Chris O'Halloran 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access. To be fair, I didn't actually try the modem since I was just running the live CD of a USB stick. Cheers, Chris

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 230, Issue 8
by Eric Light 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

We're still here, everyone! :) Robert - I've sent you an email. Looks like we had a bit of dropped communication. Cheers, - Eric Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:35:21 +1200 > From: Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Gravity Computing gone to ground again > > Hi Bruce, > > Gravity Computing have gone all quiet again. Do you think there is any > chance of you having a look at the Merlin Macro anytime soon? > > > Cheers > > > Robert >

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OpenSUSE 11.3 DVDs
by Graham Lauder 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

All Woohoo, The 200 openSUSE 11.3 DVDs I ordered in anticipation of SFD arrived yesterday. I'll be at the meeting on Mon night if anyone wants one. They're very cool, Dual sided, 64 bit one side and 32 bit the other. Two live environments, KDE and Gnome so people can check out each DE. Of course the DVD comes with XFCE, LXDE and Windowmaker desktops as well if the two big boys are not your cup of tea, just not as live. cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Meeting Monday Aug 23rd.
by Bruce Kingsbury 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Monday night's meeting will be a social night and planning for the upcoming "Software Freedom Day" event on Saturday 18th September. The WLUG website is currently down and this announcement has been make a bit late, so of you know someone who isn't on the mailing list please let them know about this meeting. August 23rd 7:30pm at Waikato University, MS4.G.02

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wiki down
by John Billings 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

As you might have noticed the wiki has been down. The switch failed that we have at Orcon. No one really wants to manage the equipment at Orcon anymore anyway, and we have a VPS donated by Rimuhosting where some backups are stored. If anyone wants to work on restoring these backups just send me an email off list and I can get you the access you need. I'm on holiday right now, and don't have time to look at it. I installed the Postgres database server on the VPS but it's a newer version than what the wiki was using before, so there may be some issues with that. I'll be back in another week, and can look at it more then if needed. Best, John

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Nerds in Crisis: using technology to respond to disasters
by Peter Reutemann 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

Hi there I thought, some people here on the list might be interested in the talk by Craig (google.org) outlined below. Here's the link to the official announcement: http://unipr.waikato.ac.nz/nerdsincrisis.htm Cheers, Peter ==== Craig Nevill-Manning Engineering Director, Google.org Nerds in Crisis: using technology to respond to disasters Public Lecture Earthquakes, cyclones, tsunamis, fires and military action regularly take a terrible toll on people around the world. Technology has always been used to respond in times of crisis, but in the last decade internet access has enabled new approaches to saving lives and reducing misery. Several organizations, including Google, are developing systems to help disaster responders and people affected by a disaster. Detailed aerial and satellite imagery is accelerating disaster response, and SMS and internet-based systems improve communication allowing victims of a disaster to request help. This talk will describe specific responses to disasters this year such as the earthquakes in Haiti, Chile and China, and man-made disasters like the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Craig received his PhD in Computer Science from the University of Waikato in 1996. He moved to the US and founded Google’s first remote engineering centre in New York. He led the development of 'Froogle', played a key role in developing Google Maps, and Google in Māori. He will be honoured this year by the University of Waikato with its Distinguished Alumni Award. Date: Thursday 26 August 2010 Time: 6.30-7.30pm Venue: University of Waikato WEL Energy Trust Academy of Performing Arts Gallagher Concert Chamber Parking: Gate 2b, Knighton Rd, Hamilton -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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Re: [wlug] Slingshot dialup not authenticating
by GJB 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

IIRC ... that unintelligble stuff is most likely something to do with the ppp pap/chap authentication dialogue ... > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Slingshot dialup not authenticating > From: Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sat, August 07, 2010 1:06 pm > To: jaytee(a)clear.net.nz, Waikato Linux Users Group > <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > On 7 August 2010 09:46, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had tried "stupid mode" with wvdial, both under Lighthouse Puppy and > > Suses 11.3. It worked with Xtra but not Slingshot. Minicom is > > indicating a much deeper problem ... almost looks like send/receive > > formats are not matching ... nothing "legible" comes back! When I get > > time I'll post info from minicom - but I've got other things to right > > at the moment. > > Back home ... Here's the output from minicom. As you can see, Xtra > (the first attempt) responded with a login prompt. Slingshot (second > dial) responded with an unintelligible request. Any ideas? I've a > suspicion one of the modem options may need tweaking ,,, but since > this is only for a temporary solution, I don't want to spend too long > trying them all. > > > Welcome to minicom 2.3 > > OPTIONS: I18n > Compiled on Jul 5 2010, 13:36:15. > Port /dev/modem > > Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys > > AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0 > OK > atdt087303030 > CONNECT 57600 > > login: > OK > atdt087308880 > CONNECT 57600 > ~�}#�!}!.} }8}"}&} }*} } }#}$�#}%}&[c}9/}'}"}(}"��~~�}#�!}!.} }8}"}&} > }*} } }#}~NO CARRIER > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Need to download my development evironment.
by Gregory Machin 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

Hi I need to download my Endian Firewall development environment from my VPS in the US. I'm having platform issues with the cross compiling, so want to move it to my desktop thats running 32 bit Fedora. I'm in a rural area in Hamilton and having connectivity issues. The devel env is about 8Gb if tar gziped. At the moment my work goes to my Sourceforge project Endian Toolbox<http://sourceforge.net/projects/efw-toolbox/> . If you have access to bandwidth and can help please email me off the list. Regards Gregory Machin http://www.linuxpro.co.nz/

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks
by David Hallett 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks 19 August 2010: 12:00 pm - 1:30 pm Events Room 2, Gallagher Hub Wintec City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton Continuing a security theme, in the latest National Series event NZCS is proud to bring one of the country's experts in application and web security to Hamilton. NB: Due to the NZCS 50th Anniversary Conference ( http://www.innovation.org.nz) there will be no National Series event next month. Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks You can't fight a war that you don't know you're waging. You can't defend your website against attack unless you know the tricks that the bad guys will use. Join Andy Prow, Managing Director of Aura Software Security, as he demonstrates and discusses attacks and defences in action. By the end of this session you'll have an understanding of some of the common attacks such as Cross-Site Scripting (XSS), Cross-Domain Request Forgery (CDRF), and will have an appreciation of how layering your defences (defence-in-depth) can help protect you from exploit chaining. The session will also give you some practical tips that you can apply straight away to help you design, build and manage more secure websites. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/204-Hacked Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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Slingshot dialup not authenticating
by Michael McDonald 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

Just been tearing my hair out with trying to set up a temporary system (using Suse!! - also Lighthouse Puppy) for a friend on dialup. Couldn't get wvdial to work, kppp was doing some strange things (including query modem not talking to the modem!). Eventually discovered minicom which enabled me to talk to the modem manually. Dialled Xtra ... fine and clear prompts coming back. Dialled slingshot ... couldn't make head or tail of what came back - reminded me of the results of mismatched send/receive speeds. Anyone got any clues. MS Windows connects fine, so that might be the only answer. Michael

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Saturday workshop
by John 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

This Saturday???

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Re: [wlug] pcmcia network card
by Glenn Morrissey 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Harry and Donna Wieldraayer wrote: > I know the one you mean pbtech in hamilton has them I seen them there Dlink as well > Cheers mate good luck Try Trademe? > > Cheers > Harry > > On 2/08/2010, at 6:46 PM, Glenn Morrissey wrote: > > >> Harry and Donna Wieldraayer wrote: >> >>> Got one here D-Link DWL-G50 pcmcia >>> >>> 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless I also have a 10/100 pcmcia network card >>> >>> If you are interested make a offer I do not need them anymore I bought a Macbook >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >> The slot in my notebook is one of those 34 mm express slots. I haven't encountered them before this, the older PCMCIA cards wont fit (or doesn't look like they will). >> >> Glenn. >> > > Had a look on Tradme last night, didn't see any. Jaycar has them, but at $83.00, I can wait a week or three before picking one up. I still get plenty out of the Linux box, the only toy I haven't got on there is GIMP image software. I downloaded the binary but there is a whole bunch of dependencies I need to have first. Im patient, I can wait a wee while. Glenn.

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Network
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hey All, after all that hoo ha, its my network on my Laptop that is faulty. Im on the lookout now for a cheap PCMCIA express network card to bypass the onboard chip. Glenn.

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route table
by Glenn Morrissey 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

I formatted and reinstalled Linux this morning, so as to remove the possibility I have accidently changed a file. Here is the result of changing my route table: route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 [169.254.214.162 is the IPv4 address of my windows machine.] glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.43.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ sudo route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.43.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 default 169.254.214. 162 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ Does that look in order? Glenn.

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output
by Glenn Morrissey 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Id love to come down but I'm stuck in Auckland for the moment. My OS is: Ubuntu Version 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx 64 Bit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IPv4 method options: Automatic (DHCP) Automatic (DHCP) Addresses only Manual Link-local only Shared to other computers. IPv6 method Options: Ignore Automatic Automatic, Addresses only Link-local only Shared To other computers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the output from /sbin$./route -n command: glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ ./route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.44.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- IPv4 Windows Box: 10.42.44.10. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the output from /etc$ cat hosts glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/etc$ cat hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 glenn-desktop # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/etc$ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I type in: glenn(a)glenn-desktop:-$ host Google.com ;;connection timed out; no servers could be reached glenn(a)glenn-desktop:-$ Interesting question: why when I run ifconfig in Windows does the IPv4 default gateway show as my Linux box's IP address??? That's surely not right. And when I have my network plugged in sometimes my mail fails to send, as in cant reach server. I wonder if the windows box is looking at the Linux box as a server. I can't imagine why though. What ever it is its playing mary hell with my dialup connection. Glenn.

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Modem
by Glenn Morrissey 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

Just got the word from the people at linmodems that dialup modems are not supported on 64 bit versions of linux. Thats not catastrophic, I can use my Windows laptop to connect to the net and internet share across my home network, until I can get ADSL. Now all I have to do is make my Linux system communicate with my windows laptop. I have manually configured my networking settings on my Linux system, and can ping both ways, but cant get internet sharing up and running. I think the problem is with settings on my windows laptop. GLENN.

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Switch
by Glenn Morrissey 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

Hi all, would the fact that I am using a switch with regular network cables make a difference? Im not using a crossover cable. Glenn.

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Network Details
by Glenn Morrissey 25 Jul '10

25 Jul '10

OK here is the technical stuff: On my Linux System, Under the edit Connections Tab, I have the following entered: Connection Name: Affordable Wired Network Tab Mac Address: Empty MTU: Automatic 802.1x Security Value: not checked IPv4 Settings: Method: manual Address: 192.168.0.2 Netmask: 255.255.0.2 Gateway: 0.0.0.0 IPv6 Settings: Method: Ignore. Interesting note: whatever value I add in the IPv4 Gateway, always ends up as 0.0.0.0. Shouldn't it be 192.168.0.1? I have turned my PC's Firewall Off (the default firewall for Vista Home Premium). MY PC Network Connection Details: Connection-Specific DNS: no value Description: Atheros L2 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-T Controller Physical Address: 00-1F-C6-ED-C2-10 DHCP Enabled: Yes Autoconfiguration IPv4... 169.254.214.162 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0 IPv4 Default Gateway: no value IPv4 DNS Server: no value IPv4 WINS Server: no value NetBIOS over TCP En.. Yes Link Local IPv6 Address: fe80::cb2:5cf7:71e2:d6a2%10 IPv6 Default Gateway: IPv6 DNS Servers: fec0:0:0.:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0.:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0.:ffff::3%1 MY Kiwi Online Connection Details: Connection-Specific DNS: no value Description: Kiwi Online Physical Address: no value DHCP Enabled: NO Autoconfiguration IPv4... 202.150.121.52 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255 IPv4 Default Gateway: no value IPv4 DNS Server: 210.55.12.1 210.55.12.2 IPv4 WINS Server: no value NetBIOS over TCP En.. No In the sharing tab I have ticked Enable Internet Connection Sharing Home Networking Connection is ticked in the box under properties of local area network. If, in my Linux system, if I set the IPv4 settings to DHCP, the connection doesn't happen and the system remains disconnected. If I open the connection information box, I get the following: ACTIVE NETWORK CONNECTIONS Affordable Interface: eth0 Hardware Address: 00:26:55:37:81:53 Driver: Forcedeth Speed: 100MB/s Security: None IP Address: 192.168.0.2 Broadcast Address: 192.168.0.3 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.254. Although the connection says established, whenever I ping 169.254.214.162 or 192.168.0.1 from my Linux system, it doesn't ping. Whenever I ping 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3 from my Windows system, it says connection timed out. I have set my Linux System Network Proxy Settings to Direct Internet Connection. Glenn.

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Monday night meeting
by Bruce Kingsbury 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Monday night WLUG meeting will be a film screening; US NOW - http://www.usnowfilm.com/ A film project about the power of mass collaboration, government and the internet Us Now follows the fate of Ebbsfleet United, a football club owned and run by its fans; Zopa, a bank in which everyone is the manager; and Couch Surfing, a vast online network whose members share their homes with strangers. The founding principles of these projects -- transparency, self-selection, open participation -- are coming closer and closer to the mainstream of our social and political lives. Us Now describes this transition and confronts politicians George Osborne and Ed Milliband with the possibilities for participative government as described by Don Tapscott and Clay Shirky amongst others. "Linus likes to joke that the official project goal is world domination, possibly there is some truth in that. It would nice to get to the situation where we have democratised knowledge and the ability to actually contribute and change, particularly information technology, across the entire world." Alan Cox July 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02

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WLUG Blade Server
by John Billings 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

There is a problem with the switch connected to the WLUG Blade server. We are not sure what the problem is, other than some IPs are not working. We possibly need a new switch. Does anyone have one? I'm able to schedule a call-out, if someone is able to go to the data center and replace the switch. A call out will cost us $50 for every 30 min. Is anyone able to help with this? Thanks, John Billings Treasurer WLUG Committee

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Kiwi PyCon 2010 Registrations now OPEN
by Tim Knapp 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Hi all, FYI this email announcement went out a few days ago: ---------------------------------------------------------- The time has come - online registrations for Kiwi PyCon 2010 are now open! Registration fees are as follows: **Regular NZD100** Earlybird: if registered before 01 Sep: NZD80 **Student/Unwaged NZD60** Earlybird: If registered before 01 Sep: NZD40 This year we have a limit of 180 participants. Given the demand and huge success of 2009 you better be quick! Just head over to Registrations (http://nz.pycon.org/registrations/) to secure your seat. Please note that the Paihia/Waitangi area is a very popular spot for both domestic and international visitors, so also make sure to secure accommodation (http://nz.pycon.org/2010/about/accommodation/) before it gets expensive. "What am I getting for this?" - A nice venue - Morning tea, lunch and afternoon tea on both days - A Kiwi PyCon 2010 t-shirt - A lanyard with the conference schedule - Wifi access to Internet (separate from the hotel) See you there! Danny W. Adair President New Zealand Python User Group Incorporated

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Ubuntu Lucid
by Glenn Morrissey 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello everyone does anyone have a copy of the latest Ubuntu Linux download? Its going to take a week or more to download it for me, if anyone has a copy, ill send you a reply paid box and a CD for a copy. Glenn.

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