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Nearly fully open source phone
by Ian McDonald 08 Nov '06

08 Nov '06

http://lwn.net/Articles/208298/rss I want one! -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] Problems with sending email
by David 08 Nov '06

08 Nov '06

Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:49:26 +1300 From: "Ron Dean" <rvdean(a)ihug.co.nz> Subject: [wlug] Problems with sending email To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <op.tims4o04uq6lqx(a)ron-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 I have thuderbird and Evolution Installed on Ubuntu 6.10 and am able to receive mail but am unable to send inspite of giving them the correct password. When I type it in it just re asks me for the password. I wondered if it was a bug that the two programs had in common as I am able to send Email with Opera in Ubuntu 6.10. This problem seemed to come after I had upgraded from the upgrade icon a few days ago. Ron Dean Read their home page status report. (Ihug) They have had problems due to a large quantity of spam being received. You have to chane some setting in the E-mail client. Below is their instructions for Thunderbird, Evolution was similar Thunderbird: Go to “Tools” --> “Account Settings”, click on the "Outgoing server (SMTP)" field. Depending on your version you will either then un-tick “Use name and password” or click edit then un-tick “Use name and password”. Then “OK” out of those screens.

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Warren Hughes (IBM) is on leave Wed Nov 7
by Warren Hughes 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

I will be out of the office starting 08/11/2006 and will not return until 09/11/2006. Hi, thanks for your email. I'm out of the office today and returning tomorrow Thursday Nov 8. Talk to you then, Warren

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Integration with Active Directory and Exchange 2003
by Ian McDonald 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

This might be of interest to some people: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=16412 I had a quick look at it. Never heard of most of it in the Active Directory parts and don't know what license etc it is using. Might be of interest to people working with AD though. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Problems with sending email
by Ron Dean 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

I have thuderbird and Evolution Installed on Ubuntu 6.10 and am able to receive mail but am unable to send inspite of giving them the correct password. When I type it in it just re asks me for the password. I wondered if it was a bug that the two programs had in common as I am able to send Email with Opera in Ubuntu 6.10. This problem seemed to come after I had upgraded from the upgrade icon a few days ago. Ron Dean -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Giveaways & freecycling
by Craig Box 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

I have one XL Software Freedom Day 2006 t-shirt from September. If anyone wants it, please let me know. Preference will of course be given to those who were there on the day. I also have an Epson Color Stylus 760 printer, free to a good home. Pick up from Hillcrest. Please e-mail me off list for both items. Craig

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Re: [wlug] [SPAM] Re: Two flavour install partioning?
by GJB 06 Nov '06

06 Nov '06

Wanker here again. Okay, thanks a lot Chris, that's really helpful. I admit I was suprised no one suggested I do a e2fsk before disk partioning since this used to be standard practice back in the day when I last fuzzily recall doing this kind of thing. So everything seems to be set-up for the disk partioning exercise now and I've got the go ahead on disabling the DMA but the question I now have is there seems to be two options; Do I i) merely make some free space available for Xubu (i.e. just shrink current root (/) and let the Xubu installation decided how to do the actual pationing and naming or ii) set up some partions for Xubu and a boot sector for it (actually will I even need two boot sectors for two linux flavours?) and tell it where to go? If/when a new root directory is made for Xubu will it named root (/) also? Can you have two sector named root(/) on the same hard drive? Thanx for any and all suggestions, Greg > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning? > From: "Chris O'Halloran" <cmoman(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 05, 2006 8:48 pm > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > On 05/11/06, GJB <balle(a)auspira.com> wrote: > > > > Okay, it seems I should apologise, I expect whoever called me a wanker to do > > the same of course. > > > > There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here, my apologies for that. My > > comment to Matt wasn't intended as a "bite" (what does that mean?). > > I merely said in a somewhat rural vernacular that it was a "bum stare" (we > > are in waikato right?), i.e. the advice didn't work for me, not any > > reflection on Matt. > > And yes I know all about the "free advice is worth what you pay for it" > > thingy, I have picked up a few useful tips lurking here and that is > > appreciated. > > Messing with disk partions is hair raising stuff for the DIYer, once in a > > decade partitioner, linux user who values his data for his livelihood, it > > was late, etc. > > Anyway no-one, except Matt, has actually offered any useful suggestions on > > what the problem maybe or even queried what my hardware maybe really be as > > to where to go from here so I'm not expecting anybody to come up with > > anything. I cannot for the life of me see how armchair sysadmin types can > > diagnose harddisk partioning problems without knowing the hardware of the > > drive they are advising towards. If I have any criticism of anybody, this > > would be it. No malice intended, just a technical point and that perhaps > > there should be some more caution on that side of it. > > > > Back to the technical issue at hand. So yes Matt I did check the md5sum of > > the CD image before the burn but had become skeptical of the burn itself, is > > there anyway of checking the md5sum of the iso image once it is on the CD? > > From > http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/07/verify-a-burned-cddvd-image-on-linux/ > > The method below assumes the iso image is called sep2006.iso > > <quote> > So, getting back to the md5 sum calculations, you can get the on-disk > image's md5 sum with the following: > $ cat sep2006.iso | md5sum > cc363de222ba6fe7455258e72b6c26ca - > > The final step is to calculate the md5 sum of the burned data. The dd > command can be used to read the DVD, but the crucial part is that dd > must read as much data as the size of the ISO image. Otherwise, it is > almost certain that you'll get a false negative about the quality of > the copy. > Data is written on a CD/DVD in blocks of size: 2048 bytes. The number > of the written blocks is the number of extents mkisofs had printed to > the stdout when creating the ISO image. The following command > instructs dd to read 169383 blocks, 2048 bytes each, and pipe it to > md5sum: > $ dd if=/dev/hdc bs=2048 count=169383 | md5sum > 169383+0 records in > 169383+0 records out > cc363de222ba6fe7455258e72b6c26ca - > > </quote> > > Similary the method above assumes the CD/DVD drive is /dev/hdc. > > > > > > > > Regardless of that, I found the problem with sysrescdd was I had to disable > > the DMA for the sysresccd to boot up cleanly. Others may want to note this, > > maybe not. This raises the further questions now: > > > > i) Is disabling the DMA before doing hard disk partitioning a safe thing to > > do? Qtparted seems to give me a GUI and recognises my current partion so > > that's encouraging. > > Disabling DMA is generally safer, it's just slower and in the case of > partitioning I can't see it making the slightest bit of difference. > It's a technology that allows disk data to be loaded directly into the > RAM bypassing the CPU. If DMA is causing problems, then disabling DMA > won't make them worse. The CPU will just have to manage the transfer > of the data. > > > > ii) Oh yeah, shouldn't I be doing an e2fsck before doing any disk > > partioning? > > I can't advise if is necessary but its probably a sensible precaution. > > But, have you made backup of your critical data? If you aren't > prepared to do that it might be better looking to install Xubuntu on a > separate harddrive. > > > > > > > > For now I'm getting up the gumption to screw around with the partions and > > make room for Xubu. > > Thnx for any help so far, particularly Matt. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning? > > > From: "Chris O'Halloran" <cmoman(a)gmail.com> > > > Date: Sun, November 05, 2006 2:50 pm > > > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > > > > Similarly, > > > > > > Greg, LUG's are voluntary associations of people with a common > > > interest in Linux and more generally open source software. Technical > > > questions to the list are welcome because we all share a general > > > interest in promoting and enjoying the use of open source software. > > > There are no commerical interests or obligations within the WLUG. > > > > > > You volunteered a question. Matt, a well established and knowledgeable > > > member of the WLUG (possibly a founder?) tried to assist you. Your > > > criticism of his advice is unwarranted. I would encourage you to > > > reconsider your criticism and offer an apology if you would like > > > anyone to consider responding to your questions in future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/11/06, jaytee(a)clear.net.nz <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> wrote: > > > > I Agree, > > > > It serves no purpose biting people who are trying to > > > > be helpful. > > > > Regards John > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > > > I think you owe Matt an apology, your reply was rude and I > > > > > honestly don't think you will be getting better free > > > > > support from anywhere else.. > > > > > > > > > > Matts suggestion was completely on par with what you would > > > > > get from anyone else.. id suggest an apology and no longer > > > > > being such a wanker to people who are trying their best to > > > > > help you. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning?
by GJB 05 Nov '06

05 Nov '06

Okay, it seems I should apologise, I expect whoever called me a wanker to do the same of course. There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here, my apologies for that. My comment to Matt wasn't intended as a "bite" (what does that mean?). I merely said in a somewhat rural vernacular that it was a "bum stare" (we are in waikato right?), i.e. the advice didn't work for me, not any reflection on Matt. And yes I know all about the "free advice is worth what you pay for it" thingy, I have picked up a few useful tips lurking here and that is appreciated. Messing with disk partions is hair raising stuff for the DIYer, once in a decade partitioner, linux user who values his data for his livelihood, it was late, etc. Anyway no-one, except Matt, has actually offered any useful suggestions on what the problem maybe or even queried what my hardware maybe really be as to where to go from here so I'm not expecting anybody to come up with anything. I cannot for the life of me see how armchair sysadmin types can diagnose harddisk partioning problems without knowing the hardware of the drive they are advising towards. If I have any criticism of anybody, this would be it. No malice intended, just a technical point and that perhaps there should be some more caution on that side of it. Back to the technical issue at hand. So yes Matt I did check the md5sum of the CD image before the burn but had become skeptical of the burn itself, is there anyway of checking the md5sum of the iso image once it is on the CD? Regardless of that, I found the problem with sysrescdd was I had to disable the DMA for the sysresccd to boot up cleanly. Others may want to note this, maybe not. This raises the further questions now: i) Is disabling the DMA before doing hard disk partitioning a safe thing to do? Qtparted seems to give me a GUI and recognises my current partion so that's encouraging. ii) Oh yeah, shouldn't I be doing an e2fsck before doing any disk partioning? For now I'm getting up the gumption to screw around with the partions and make room for Xubu. Thnx for any help so far, particularly Matt. Greg > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning? > From: "Chris O'Halloran" <cmoman(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 05, 2006 2:50 pm > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > Similarly, > > Greg, LUG's are voluntary associations of people with a common > interest in Linux and more generally open source software. Technical > questions to the list are welcome because we all share a general > interest in promoting and enjoying the use of open source software. > There are no commerical interests or obligations within the WLUG. > > You volunteered a question. Matt, a well established and knowledgeable > member of the WLUG (possibly a founder?) tried to assist you. Your > criticism of his advice is unwarranted. I would encourage you to > reconsider your criticism and offer an apology if you would like > anyone to consider responding to your questions in future. > > > > > > On 05/11/06, jaytee(a)clear.net.nz <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> wrote: > > I Agree, > > It serves no purpose biting people who are trying to > > be helpful. > > Regards John > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > I think you owe Matt an apology, your reply was rude and I > > > honestly don't think you will be getting better free > > > support from anywhere else.. > > > > > > Matts suggestion was completely on par with what you would > > > get from anyone else.. id suggest an apology and no longer > > > being such a wanker to people who are trying their best to > > > help you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning?
by GJB 05 Nov '06

05 Nov '06

actually, now I think about it, the correct turn of phrase is spelt "bum steer" ... as in a bad animal that one might buy at the sales from time to time. which it wasn't thus far ... so no harm done, yet.

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Re: [wlug] Two flavour install partioning?
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 05 Nov '06

05 Nov '06

I Agree, It serves no purpose biting people who are trying to be helpful. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I think you owe Matt an apology, your reply was rude and I > honestly don't think you will be getting better free > support from anywhere else.. > > Matts suggestion was completely on par with what you would > get from anyone else.. id suggest an apology and no longer > being such a wanker to people who are trying their best to > help you.

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(no subject)
by Leslie Katz 05 Nov '06

05 Nov '06

What about a Knoppix live cd as a way into repartitioning? It may work even if sysrecord doesn't.

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Two flavour install partioning?
by GJB 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

Well Matt, the sysresccd was a bum stare. How many times have you actually used this utility on pre-Millenial Dell laptops? Segmentation Fault untarring the hotplug firmware and unceremoniously hung. Perhaps some more caution before bandying advice about third party disk tools? I was expecting at least a hardware question or two but your misplaced confidence spurred me on. Anybody else got ideas for disk partioning utilities for a Dell '99 era laptop, only ever had linux redhat on it? See previous discussion for what I'm wanting to do. Greg

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Two flavour install partitioning?
by GJB 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

Hello all, a longtime lurker here, I have an old Dell Laptop that has faithfully run various versions of Redhat over the years. The current hardrive in it has Rh7.3 that I'd like to keep on there for a while yet but I'd also like to put Xubuntu on the same hard drive, tried out the CD test and like it. The drive is currently partitioned with a separate boot, swap space and rest on root (/), all ext3 and no other system has ever been near it ;). Several questions arise: i) can I adjust the partitions of the hardrive to shrink the current root (/), create a new partion to install the Xubunutu on and set-up GRUB bootloader to give me a choice of which system to boot from? Is the best tool to do this fdisk or is there something else out now? ii) will I risk losing any of the current data in "/"? (As always will do a full system back-up first but what's the chances?) iii) will the systems need separate swap drive partitions or will Xubunutu recognise the current swap partition set-up? (No idea if or where config for this would be) iv) can i also partition a new section for to mount the current /home that both systems will then recognise as the new /home? (Just mount table config here I'm picking) Thanx for any help, Greg

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Ubuntu 6.10 login problem
by John Torrance 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Thanks for the advice I tried alt control F1 which gave me a command line - and allowed me to log in to a console, however, as I was typing the commands, it then automatically went back to the graphical interface. I then loggin in using the recovery mode which allowed me to run the sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude dist-upgrade this seemed to run until it listed a syntax error with "freemed" which might be an application I tried to install in the past - it then exited back to the command line. When I rebooted, it gave me the same screen - however, it tried to go past it, the screen would flash blank then white and then back to the cream blank screen. Eventually it popped up a box with: "The greeter application appears to be crashing - attempting to use a different one" After I clicked OK, the same thing happened - eventually sticking on the blank cream screen again. Any ideas?

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Microsoft and Novell sign agreement
by Ian McDonald 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Seems to be about patent protection etc. Haven't had a good read but this shows Linux is moving to next level in my opinion! (i.e. proprietary vendors have to co-operate) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10409018 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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ubuntu 6.10 login problem
by John Torrance 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

John Torrance wrote: > > I have upgraded my ubuntu to 6.10. The problem is that after the logo, > > the login freezes with a blank cream coloured screen prior to the login > > stage. Does anyone know how to remedy this? > > > Does it eventually get to the login screen or not? It's not obvious from your post. Sorry, I should have been more specific - no, it just hangs - I am unable to log on hence my concern. I could do a fresh install but then I would loose everything on the computer. Thanks for the advice John, but I am an illiterate and the logs, even if I could work out how to boot into safe mode, would be meaningless. With regard to the Graphics card however, the computer has always run fine with all the previous Ubuntu releases that I have used Cheers John

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Fwd: Looking for prospective contacts within Hamilton IT
by Chris O'Halloran 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Greetings. I have a flatmate who is becoming rather disallusioned with his present job. He is from the UK and came here to work in transport planning. The job hasn't materialised quite the way it was sold to him when he first applied for the position. So he's looking to move on and so he's looking for contacts within the IT sector/transport planning Waikato realm. Briefly he lists his skills as: Software testing - Manual and automated Developing user and process guides training prototyping code in Delphi 6 basic Delphi 6 Extensive MS Excel Spreadsheet development Extensive VBA Macro Code in MS Excel VBA Macros in Powerpoint Visual Basis 6 MAP Info GIS software IT support for MS office IT support for MS Windows various manipulations using text editors Database development in MS Access custom pedestrian simulation software EMME2 Transport modelling software Consultancy Proposal writing to win work I am really looking for potential contacts in various organisations that could use his skills. Thoughts appreciated. Chris

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Comparing GIMP and Krita
by Ian McDonald 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Krita (KDE graphics editor) has had a bit of publicity recently so this is worth having a look at comparing the features. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/1950242 I'm starting to like KOffice a bit now as the different applications in it start to mature. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Countdown to linux.conf.au 2007: 75 DAYS TO GO
by Craig Box 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

The programme for LCA2007 has been published, and registrations are open. Here's the e-mail on the subject. - Craig Countdown to linux.conf.au 2007 =============================== 75 DAYS TO GO News: 1) Registrations have opened, with early bird discounts available until mid November! Due to issues with our payment gateway that have delayed this announcement, we will not be able to accept payment immediately. Please register, and as soon as our credit card facilities are up and running, we will contact you for payment. http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/lca-announce/2006-November/msg00000.html http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Registration 2) The linux.conf.au 2007 programme has been published! By all accounts, it is completely awesome. We've tried very hard to avoid terribly obvious clashes, but with so many exceptional topics and speakers, there will be the inevitable desire to see three or more things at once. Do *not* try this at home. Complete information about the talks and speakers will be up soon -- we just wanted to whet your appetite first. :-) http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/lca-announce/2006-November/msg00001.html http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Programme 3) Our first round of sponsors have confirmed their support! Sponsorship is crucial for a volunteer-run, non-profit conference such as ours, to ensure that we can fly in excellent speakers from around the world, to have fantastic venue, and for all the... extra-curricular activities! http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Sponsors Join the linux.conf.au announce mailing list for important announcements: http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lca-announce Thanks, - Jeff Waugh The Seven Team -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ _______________________________________________ linux-aus mailing list linux-aus(a)lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/linux-aus

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Help Please
by John Torrance 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

I have upgraded my ubuntu to 6.10. The problem is that after the logo, the login freezes with a blank cream coloured screen prior to the login stage. Does anyone know how to remedy this? Much appreciated John

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WebMail - broken url
by stephen＠heyste.com 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Hi, Webmail url - https://secure.wlug.org.nz/squirrelmail/ looks to be broken. TIA, Stephen

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Introducing 'Iceweasel' and 'Icedove'
by Simon Green 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

>From this weeks Debian Weekly News: "Firefox becomes Iceweasel. Due to trademark [47]issues the Debian project felt impelled to rename the Firefox web browser to Iceweasel and the Thunderbird mail client to Icedove. Roberto Sanchez [48]explained that the new packages don't contain non-free artwork from the [49]Mozilla Foundation and that security updates will be properly backported. The trademark [50]policy requires that such packages are not distributed under the original name, hence the new names. 47. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/12/msg00328.html 48. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/10/msg00665.html 49. http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/ 50. http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html " Personally, I see this as the death of debian as a desktop distribution. Ubuntu 6.10 (which includes the non-free logo for the first time) suggests Ubuntu won't be following Debian footsteps in the renaming, thankfully. -- simon

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Lost property at the last meeting
by Jamie Curtis 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Hi, I've just been asked by the University if anyone from WLUG left a small suitcase at the last meeting on Monday. If it's yours and you would like to claim it, message me off list and I'll put you in contact with the right person. Cheers, Jamie

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Ubuntu 6.10
by John Torrance 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

I have upgraded my ubuntu to 6.10. The problem is that after the logo, the login freezes with a blank cream coloured screen prior to the login stage. Does anyone know how to remedy this? Much appreciated John

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XFN
by Chris O'Halloran 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

interesting link regarding hyperlinks on blogs or any personal website to assisted in identifying social networks http://gmpg.org/xfn/and/

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Article on Ubuntu server setup
by Ian McDonald 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

This article claims to help you setup the "perfect" Ubuntu server: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm, TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) as usual. PerryLorier will talk about http://www.wlug.org.nz/Plan9 (from BellLabs), the follow-up to http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX worked on by the original http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX authors and other luminaries.

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Announcing Ubuntu 6.10
by Simon Green 27 Oct '06

27 Oct '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen(a)ubuntu.com> Date: 26-Oct-2006 23:11 Subject: Announcing Ubuntu 6.10 The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the release of Ubuntu 6.10, codenamed "Edgy Eft". This release includes both installable Desktop CDs and alternate text-mode installation CDs for several architectures. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages installed by default, every other package you can imagine available with a few clicks, and professional technical support from Canonical Limited and hundreds of other companies around the world. Ubuntu 6.10 will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and servers. Note that the previous stable release (6.06 LTS) is a long-term support release, and so users requiring a longer support lifetime may choose to continue using that version rather than upgrade to or install 6.10. To Get Ubuntu 6.10 ------------------ Download Ubuntu 6.10 here: New Zealand: http://nz.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.10/ ... To burn these CD images, you will need 700MB media. Ubuntu 6.10 media can also be purchased from a number of retailers. For more information, visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu About Ubuntu 6.10 ----------------- Highlights of this release include: On the desktop This version introduces a host of new features, an improved interface and a wide variety of new applications and desktop tools making Ubuntu 6.10 flexible and user-friendly. Enhancements include: * Tomboy, an easy-to-use and efficient note-taking tool * F-Spot, a photo management tool that enables tagging, photo editing and automatic uploading to on-line web management sites such as Flickr * GNOME 2.16, which in addition to new features such as enhanced power management, makes the GNOME desktop more secure, faster and more stable * Substantially faster startup and shutdown with eye-catching high-resolution graphics * The latest Firefox web browser, version 2.0, which offers inline spell check support in web forms, easy recovery of crashed sessions, built-in phishing detectors, enhanced search engine management with built in OpenSearch support, and better support for previewing and subscribing to web feeds * Proactive security features, preventing many common security vulnerabilities even before they are discovered * Evolution 2.8.0, which brings new features such as vertical message panes On the Server The Ubuntu server edition builds on the functionality from the previous release simplifying common Linux server deployment processes. It also includes a pre-release of the upcoming LTSP-5 (Linux Terminal Server Project). LTSP-5 offers clients a lower TCO (total cost of ownership), simpler installation and easier maintenance than typical IT deployments. With all data stored on the server, administrators have substantially eliminated the cost of updating individual workstations to ensure their security. Enhancements to LTSP-5 include: * Automatic network configuration with DHCP service for servers with two or more network cards attached -- available with the alternate CD installer * Language and session selection from the LTSP login manager -- allowing a user to choose from any of the languages and desktop sessions installed on the server * Support for locally attached devices on thin clients -- allowing users to access cameras, iPods or USB sticks on the thin client * Printing support - enabling printing on a local printer from the thin client * Full support for Etherboot Localization * Automatic setup of non-Latin input methods * Menu item translations included in language packs, for faster integration of new and updated translations provided through Rosetta * Ongoing translation updates from the Rosetta web service: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+translations Installation and Upgrades Under the hood * GCC 4.1 * Glibc 2.4 * Linux 2.6.17 As always, Ubuntu includes the very best of the 100% Free / Libre application software world, and each new release incorporates countless new features and bug fixes from the global development community. More detailed release notes are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes Helping Shape Ubuntu -------------------- If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/ If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, try asking on the #ubuntu channel on IRC.FreeNode.net, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ More Information ---------------- You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this release on our website: http://www.ubuntu.com/ To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm, TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) as usual. PerryLorier will talk about http://www.wlug.org.nz/Plan9 (from BellLabs), the follow-up to http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX worked on by the original http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX authors and other luminaries.

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Oracle doing a CentOs (rebadging RedHat)
by Ian McDonald 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

For those that haven't heard Oracle is rebadging RedHat and providing support. http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2006/10/with_friends_li.h… Things that I see significant are: - Download RedHat EL clone for free - Cheaper support costs - Full compatiablity support - More support for older versions. - Don't have to be a Oracle customer Oracle have contributed a lot of kernel patches recently so I think they are fairly serious about that. I think this may well reduce CentOs installs and some corporates will go with Oracle. Interesting times. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Debate around ndiswrapper in the kernel
by Ian McDonald 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

People who are interested in such things might find this interesting: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/205644/f12f60903303d835/ (Yes it is a link you can read - SubscriberLink refers to the fact I am a subscriber and sharing a story) -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Firefox 2 features
by Ian McDonald 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

And on a similar note to the last post here is what's new in Firefox 2: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features.html -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Organisation needed for Free & Open Source Software study
by Nigel Nguyen 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

Hi all, I am Nigel Nguyen, currently doing a dissertation that study about FOSS movement in New Zealand that focused on SME (small & medium size enterprise - that is business that have less than 19 staffs). I wonder if anyone from the list that run a business or the main decision maker / technology people that could help me to have an insight study in FOSS. Following are information about the study: ----------------- Overview This research is conducted to examine the status of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) adoption within New Zealand context, particularly the small and medium enterprises community. The report of this research is a compulsory dissertation for my Postgraduate of Electronic Commerce qualification. This research also aim at provide literature ground for later study on FOSS in New Zealand as well as to provide chance for FOSS developers learn about New Zealand business requirements. Who’s responsible? My name is Dung Trung (Nigel) Nguyen who undertake the responsibility for this entire research. You can contact me at 021 78 6769, email me at nigel(a)nigelnguyen.org. This research is supervised by Professor Robert J. McQueen who contact details is available on requested. What will you as a participant have to do and how long will it take? There will be a single interview which should take approximately half hour. The interview will be unstructured (non-directive), unbiased, yet still focus on the recent FOSS implementation in your organization. What will happen to the collected information? The interview responses will be used by the researcher to write a descriptive research report. Only the researcher and the supervisor of the study will be privy to source materials. Afterwards (30 days after final submission of the report), all physical material (notes, recorded tape) will be destroyed and/or erased. Some information, however, will be trimmed to be unidentifiable and transferred to digital format for later reference. No participants will be named in research reports unless explicit consent has been given, and every effort will be made to disguise the identity. Declaration to participant If you take part in the study, you have the right to: - Refuse to answer any particular question, and to withdraw from the study (all collected information will be destroyed immediately in this case) within 21 days from the interview day. - Ask any further questions about the study that occur to you during your participants. - Be given access to a summary of the findings from the study when it is concluded. - The Privacy Act 1993 will be applied in order to protect the interest of participants. -------------- If you are interested, please contact me off the list. I will then forward you some further (formal) documentation. Thank you for your help, time and attention, Nigel Nguyen

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Fedora Core 6 out
by Craig Box 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

http://fedoraproject.org/static-tmp/FC6ReleaseSummary.html The main Fedora server has melted under the load, so find another mirror for the release notes. A good summary and BT links are on that page though. Craig

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Review of Gaim 2
by Ian McDonald 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

I know a few people use this so might find this interesting - review of the beta of Gaim 2. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/24/1634247 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Good little tutorial on permissions, users and processes
by Ian McDonald 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

I learnt a few things from this and it helps explain quite a few concepts: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-speakingunix4/?ca=dgr-… -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm, TW.2.07 (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TW) as usual. PerryLorier will talk about http://www.wlug.org.nz/Plan9 (from BellLabs), the follow-up to http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX worked on by the original http://www.wlug.org.nz/UNIX authors and other luminaries.

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Copying from one hard drive to another
by Glenn Ramsey 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

I have a hard drive that contains several ext3 partitions an NTFS partition and a FAT32 partition. Is it possible to copy it's contents to another drive of a different type but nominally the same capacity (one drive is 2.5" the other 3.5") using some sort of bitwise copy? If so then what commands do I need to do it? I could do it manually by creating the right partitions on the second drive and copying the files, but I'm wondering if there's a less tedious way? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Flashplayer 9 beta out now
by Ian McDonald 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

For all of those people who haven't been able to use MySpace and YouTube fully under Linux you might want to check this out: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html I haven't had a play yet but looking forward to trying it. I've also tried gnash which is an open source alternative to flash but unfortunately it doesn't really work very well at all - the sites I tried on it crashed or did nothing. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Openfiler
by Chris O'Halloran 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hello, The company I work for is about >< this close to setting up Openfiler as a file server. The IT guys have setup 1.1 and liked what they saw but were waiting for OpenFiler 2 to be released as stable for use. It is now, so our IT guy downloaded the ISO file, cut it to CD but it won't boot. He came to me and I suggested that we check the md5sum to verify the image. I've looked high and low on the site, googlged around, searched wikis and mailing lists and even hooked on to a few mirror sites to see if I could find a text file with the md5sum. But I am stuck for an answer on this one short of posting to the openfiler discussion list. Any other suggestions? Cheers Chris

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Linux on the Playstation 3
by Ian McDonald 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Interesting article here: http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20061018.ars -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Ubuntu 7.04 planning begins
by Ian McDonald 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

Folks, Efty Edge is not quite out and Feisty Fawn is getting underway. I like the sound of multimedia enablement and improving the end user experience. From: Mark Shuttleworth <mark-AT-canonical.com> To: ubuntu-devel-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Planning for Ubuntu 7.04 - the "Feisty Fawn" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:48:22 +0100 Salve, Ubuntero's With the final release of Ubuntu 6.10 approaching, and apparently set to be spot on schedule October 26th, we're starting to look beyond it to Ubuntu 7.04, scheduled for release on 19 April 2007. In the next cycle we'll expand on the brand new infrastructure that has landed in Edgy as well as branching out in some exciting new directions. This combination of courage and restlessness is also found in a young deer that sets out to explore a world that is new and exciting - seeing the world through eyes unprejudiced by what has gone before. In that spirit, the release will be be code named "The Feisty Fawn". The main themes for feature development in this release will be improvements to hardware support in the laptop, desktop and high-end server market, and aggressive adoption of emerging desktop technologies. Ubuntu's Feisty release will put the spotlight on multimedia enablement and desktop effects. We expect this to be a very gratifying release for both users and developers. Detailed planning will take place at the developer summit next month in Mountain View, California. Please join us there to help shape the Feisty Fawn! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMountainView This will be our sixth release, marking the third anniversary of the project's inception, and will be a return to our standard six-month release schedule following the shortened catch-up cycle used for 6.10. Edgy has been a wild ride, with some remarkable achievements (nothing like re-inventing and substantially improving on init!). Feisty will be a little more focused on features that are very visible to end-users. We welcome new participants in our community - whatever your talent we look forward to working with you! Jono Bacon, our new community lead, will find a way to make sure your contribution is well received. Mark -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Slackware 11 review
by Ian McDonald 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

Given the recent interest in this I'm posting this review I've just seen: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/2045208 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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NTP syncing on a local network
by Ian McDonald 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

I'm wanting to sync two machines to within 1 msec for my research using ntp. Questions: - is this realistic given how clocks drift? Has anybody done this? - is there a quick way to force them to converge I've had a quick read of the ntp pages and made one of my machines a broadcast server and the other broadcast clients I think but they seem to be taking a while to converge. The man pages say they will fix at 0.5ms/sec but I'm not seeing that. Comments appreciated. NB I don't want my clocks to be deadly accurate to the "real world", just to each other. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Suggestion for meeting topic next year
by Denise Bates 15 Oct '06

15 Oct '06

Hello folks, At last months meeting there was a call for suggestions for meeting topics for next year. I would like to propose the following..... As I am in the process of upgrading my stable of computers to Slackware 11.0, I remain puzzled why the BS about Slackware being hard to use has any traction at all. While I expect _any_ discussion of Slackware will probably be branded as a distro war, I think that I could deliver a constructive, informative talk on the _underlying essence_ of text-based installation, package management, and configuration. I would invite the audience to engage in _constructive_ discussion of whether the extra demands made by GUIs on computer resources justifies any ease of installation, package management, and configuration (if any). I would like to have a newbie actually install and configure a computer as part of the presentation. I realise that time will be tight, but I should be able to keep it around the one-hour mark. I suggest the following parameters- ** The installer does not have to be experienced with Linux, but it would be helpful if they were savvy with the computing basics on any operating system. I can give them a printed copy of Slackware Basics and the Slackware Manual. If they get stuck and cannot find the information that they require within one minute, then I could tell them what to do (to keep the presentation moving along). ** The computer to be used should be representative of current modest-specced machines available- no Winmodems, odd-ball, or defective components. ** The installation should be a typical one for a typical home user - no esoteric networking or overly specialised hardware. I would have the installers machine hooked up to the projector, so to show how she/he is progressing. Given these parameters, the newbie should be able to complete the installation/configuration in well under an hour on a reasonably fast machine. I could offer up a few Slackware CDs if any member of the audience also wants to do an install during the presentation. I would welcome the participation of other Slackers as co-presenters. I would also like to attend equivalent presentations by other folk who prefer a substantially different distro (I am particularly curious about Gentoo and LFS). Again, I stress that I am not attempting to start a distro-war. I would be attempting to discuss the underlying philosophy behind the oldest surviving Linux distro and to question whether the purported user-friendliness of GUI-based administrative suites can be justified. regards, ********************************************* Dr Denise J. Bates, PO Box 50, Meremere New Zealand E-mail: dbates(a)iconz.co.nz Telephone 09-2336433 Mobile 021-2541330 *********************************************

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Memory module information
by Leslie Katz 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

I've acquired half a dozen old memory modules. I've been able to identify them from Googling as two 72 pin SIMMS and four 168 pin DIMMS. The DIMMS have PC speeds varying between 66 and 133. It may be that one or more of the modules will fit into a friend's computer, which is itself pretty old. Is there some command I can ask the friend to run which will give us information about the installed memory modules now in her computer--such things as type and PC speed--so that I can find out now whether I should even try to install any of them for her?

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Date for October meeting
by Ian McDonald 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Folks, Normally the meeting for October would be on October 23rd being the fourth Monday. This is also labour day. We are trying to decide whether to have it on that day or the 30th. If anybody can't make either day can you send me an e-mail off list please? The speaker will be Perry Lorier on Plan 9 which is an alternative operating system with some really interesting concepts. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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[Fwd: FW: Signing up for an account on the new Genesis Energy website TMS 43752]
by Dominic Tennant 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

FYI, this is Genesis' response to my email :)

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Splitting an image file over CR ROMs
by Chris O'Halloran 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Hello, I have a disk image of about 8.4G that I took from a friends computer about 18 months ago. Since then the harddrive has been reformatted and that data lost. I would like to send disk image via CD's to the UK where the disk image can be reassembled. I imagine that might take about 12-13 CD's the file is recognised as a xxxxxx.dat file and I am sure I made it using something like dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/mnt/hdb11/image_name.dat Would people be prepared to offer any hints on how to do that? Cheers

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Linux Installation
by Sahil Gupta 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Hi Wlug, Long time no see! This is slightly off-topic. I'm currently located in Australia and need a couple of boxes installed with Linux. The machines are located in Hamilton at present and can be dropped off/picked up by someone, along with a Slackware 11.0 install disc. Would anybody like a quick job on installing a distro on a bunch of machines? Cheers! Please reply off-list. Regards, Sahil Gupta VoiceValley

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Slackware 11.0
by Denise Bates 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

Hello folks, At last, Slackware 11.0 has been released! Will anyone with a fast connection be downloading copies of the ISOs? I am currently in Hamilton and still on dial-up, and I would be very grateful for a copy - the usual exchange blank CDs and other inducements are offered.... regards, -- ********************************************* Dr Denise J. Bates, PO Box 50, Meremere New Zealand E-mail: dbates(a)iconz.co.nz Telephone 09-2336433 Mobile 021-2541330 *********************************************

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[Fwd: Signing up for an account on the new Genesis Energy website]
by Dominic Tennant 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

Hi everyone...just tried signing up for an account with Genesis today and discovered that I needed IE to do so. I sent them this email, and I figured in the spirit of open source I'd share it with you all, in the event that you wish to either support this by emailing Genesis yourselves, or if you just want to use it as a template (if you think it's worth it :)) Regards, Bnonn

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Spam and encrypted emails
by Chris O'Halloran 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

http://www.clear.net.nz/terms.html Clear have advised that spam from known spam addresses will be blocked and that other messages will be quaranteened for only 3 days after which the messages will be deleted. As I am not a systems administrator I was wondering what the usual policy for encrypted email (eg GPG) in regard to spam filtering. Is encrypting an email a guarenteed way for people to communicate and avoid messages being deleted by aggressive ISP spam policies. I assume spammers wouldn't bother encrypting email because receiver's couldn't decrypt the emails. Thoughts? Chris

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X and projectors Fwd: Ubuntu Weekly News #16
by Ian McDonald 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Great news in this - looks like X will finally get better automatic support for external VGA ports on notebooks.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Corey Burger <corey.burger(a)ubuntu.com> Date: Oct 5, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Ubuntu Weekly News #16 To: ubuntu-news(a)lists.ubuntu.com Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue No. 16 for the week of September, 24 - 30, 2006. You can always find older Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter issues at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter == Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) Beta Release == The beta releases of Kubuntu 6.10 and Ubuntu 6.10 were made this week. Kubuntu features stylish new artwork, improved power management and better accessibility. See: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Beta/Kubuntu Ubuntu features Firefox 2 beta and adds Tomboy and F-spot. Artwork hasn't been neglected either. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta == Akademy 2006 == Report by Jonathan Riddell. "Even though I was not able to attend the whole Akademy this year (due to the Kubuntu beta release) the conference, e.V. meeting and BoF sessions I did make it to were exciting and showed great promise for KDE 4. Firstly, thanks to Canonical for making Kubuntu a Gold sponsor of Akademy, it was lovely to have large Kubuntu banners all over the lecture theatres as well as a hacker lab full of Kubuntu machines. KDE 4 has been a long time coming, but with the presentations at the weekend we got to see the multimedia layer Phonon in action and the hardware layer Solid at work. In the KDE 4 build environment we saw a full KDE 4 session being run - a first for many people. There's still plenty of work to be done; the Plasma desktop still has no screenshots and the Telepathy project Decibel is behind schedule, but with the first developers' preview now out and packages available in Kubuntu Edgy, development should now accelarate. We were pleased to have a number of speakers from other communities including Gnome's John Palmieri, who convinced us that it's not just KDE who are happy to have competition, Keith Packard, who wrote some special code to ensure his laptop worked with the university's projector and showed other wonders of hotswap pluggyness that will be coming into X soon, and Jin Yoon, who showed us the open platform used on his Ricoh printers. Looking very promising is KHTML, where the decision on whether to keep the original KHTML or convert to a version of WebKit will likely be taken soon. We also got to see the Qt 4 C# bindings and using Javascript to manage any application's object tree just like a web page DOM. The Akademy Awards were given to the author of Krita, a painting application that now rivals the free and proprietary competition; the poor soul who converted all of KDE from autotools to the CMake build system and the Mandriva coder who has made more KDE 3 to KDE 4 commits than anyone else. Unfortunately, Mark Shuttleworth had to cancel his visit after Canonical One needed repairs, but I managed to hold a successful Kubuntu BoF on my own showing what we had done in Edgy and working out how to get those changes further upstream. The SuSE developers were especially interested in Ubuntu's thinkpad-keys daemon. KDE e.V. is KDE's legal body, and in a day long meeting we went over the usual administrative matters that projects the size of KDE have to. We also chose the location of Akademy 2007 of which I will be one of the organisers, details to be announced soon." == Ubuntu Poster Competition Yields Results == Ubuntuforums.org user HanZo has created a winning entry for a poster design competition that happened at the forums. You can look at the beta image at http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/… The image will yet be edited a bit (especially the white text), but is a sure winner now. HanZo will be getting 5 free prints. There will be a total of 500 prints, available by email order from Jenda Vancura approximately for production costs. To read more about the competition, please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248546 == Universe Version Freeze == Daniel Holbach tells us that the Universe Freeze is now in effect. This means that no new upstream versions will be synced and no new packages will be admitted entrance to the Universe repository. All is not lost for those certain emergencies though, as you can always file a UVF exception; the process for this is explained [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF here]. For an exception, please make sure you attach all the necessary information and in cases of NEW packages have it reviewed and approved on REVU beforehand! Universe Freeze is in accordance with the Edgy release schedule which can be found [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule here]. == Changes in Edgy == As previously mentioned, universe is moving towards frozen, which will slow down the changes in Edgy somewhat. However, this week was a busy one, as people raced to beat the freeze. === Ubuntu === Sebastian and Daniel of the GNOME uploading team started in on GNOME 2.16.1 at the end of the week, with the bulk being uploaded after Sept 30th. 2.16.1 is the first of 3 bug fix releases on the stable branch of GNOME. Bits of the underlying libraries were also updated as well, with the uploading of gtk 2.10.4 and gtkmm1:2.10.2 by Sebastien and Daniel respectively. Other updated GNOME and GTK-based applications this week included glom 1.1.2, clamtk 2.24 (both uploaded by Daniel Holbach), lat 1.0.7, bluefish 1.0.6, and wifi-radar 1.9.7 (synced from Debian), the new Novell/SUSE menu, slab 0.0.cvs.20060915, synced by Sebastian Bacher, who also uploaded glade-3 3.0.2 and Sebastian Droege uploaded brasero 0.4.4. The world of Telepathy continued at is usual frantic pace this week, with the syncing of telepathy-stream-engine 0.3.6, farsight 0.1.8, gst-plugins-farsight 0.10.2and telepathy-gabble 0.3.7 from Debian and the new telepathy-butterfly 0.1.0 (a connector for MSN), its underlying library pymsn 0.2.1 and telepathy-blue 0.0.1.1~darcs20060926 (a bluetooth/sms connector). Daniel Holbach also uploaded libgalago 0.5.1+svn20060928, telepathy-feed 0.13 and cohoba 0.0.4. Also on the communications front, Daniel Holbach uploaded gossip 0.17 and loudmouth 1.1.4 while asterisk 1.2.12.1 was synced from Debian. A new Firefox plugin for interacting with Launchpad was uploaded this week, firefox-launchpad-plugin 0.1. If you fancy your web browsing slightly more basic, links 2.1pre23, the new version of the Links webbrowser might be more up your alley. === Kubuntu === A few pieces of Kubuntu were also updated, including a new SVN snapshot of kde-systemsettings, 0.0svn20060929, uploaded by Anthony Mercatante. He also uploaded the 0.1 release of knetworkmanager, the KDE frontend to the Network Manager tool. Not yet part of Kubuntu, strigi is a desktop search and indexing tool. This week saw version 0.3.8 of the program, strigi, and the applet, strigiapplet. === Xubuntu === The Xubuntu people, while not as insanely busy as the GNOME uploading team, still manage a respectable output. This weeks haul includes the new xfce4-dict-plugin 0.1.0, uploaded by Gauvain Pocentek and a number of new bits of xffm, the XFCE file manager. They include xffm-applications 4.5.0, xffm-book 4.5.0, xffm-locate 4.5.0 and an underlying library libxffm 4.5.0. === Ichthux === The Ichthux team keeps rolling along, with Raphael Pinson uploading bibletime 1.6 and bibletime-i18n 1.6. He also uploaded ichthux-konqueror-shortcuts 0.1, a new set of Ichthux specific bookmarks. Jordan Mantha also uploaded sword-text-dutsvv 1.3, sword-text-swahili 1.0, sword-text-tagalog 1.1, and sword-text-viet 1.4. === General === The multimedia side of Ubuntu got a great deal of action this week. Daniel Chen uploaded an SVN version of vlc, 0.8.6-svn20060918 as well as mutagen 1.7.1, Sebastien Droege uploaded the new last-exit, 3.0 as well as banshee-official-plugins 0.11.0, William Alexander Grant got working on the new soundcoverter, 0.9.1, and Anthony Mercatante uploaded the new kmplayer 0.9.3. In the MythTV universe, ivtv 0.7.0 and the new myththemes 0.20, the latter uploaded by William Grant, made their way into the archives. A number of new versions of various multimedia tools were also synced from Debian, including mpqc 2.3.1, cdtool 2.1.8, rosegarden 1.2.4, djplay 0.3.0. For those of you who use your Ubuntu machine for a bit of gaming, this week was not all work. bomberclone 0.11.7, lincity-ng 1.0.3, pioneers 0.10.2 and stellarium 0.8.1 were all synced from Debian. If you the scientific pays the bills or floats your fancy, this week brings the syncing of tulip 2.0.5, openbabel 2.0.2, and pcb 20060822 from Debian, William Alexander Grant uploading biosquid 1.9g+cvs20050121, amap-align 2.0, astronomical-almanac 5.6, and treeviewx 0.5.1. In a more medical vein, the gnumed-client 0.2.2a was synced from Debian. Mattias Klose may have the misfortune to have to deal with OpenOffice.org, but he still has time to deal with Zope and this week he did exactly that, uploading zope-cmfplacefulworkflow 1.0.0, zope-pluginregistry 1.1, zope-pas 1.2, zope-plonepas 2.0.1, zope-statusmessages 2.0, and zope-passwordresettool 0.4, all new packages to Debian and Ubuntu. Various pieces of Java software also got updated this week. They include classpath 0.92, an integral part of the free Java stack. This release brings Cairo graphics. You can read more at http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=4573. Also updated were axis 1.4 and wsdl4j 1.5.2. If you use any of the distribution revision control systems (and you should be), this week brought you some new toys. Users of bzr were given 0.11-rc3 (the final was out as of writing) and if you prefer a graphical frontend, olive 0.11, a Summer of Code project that is going strong after the summer is over, was uploaded as well. bzrtools was also updated to 0.11.0 for the new bzr release. Another popular system is mercurial, which was updated to 0.9.1. And for those that cannot decide, there is a tool for moving between revision control systems. It is called tailor and you get version 0.9.26 as of this week. In other server news, several popular applications were updated. They include egroupware 1.2-105 (Users of groupware should read http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html) and horde3 3.1.3.The 0.5.5 release of the, "light and fast" web server, cherokee found its way into Ubuntu. If you fancy a spot of file sharing, nicotine 1.2.4.1 and mldonkey 2.8.1 are now available. However, if you seek the need to protect your identity while doing it, tor 0.1.1.23 can help you do that. Users of gmail received a gift with the uploading of gmailfs 0.7.2, which allows you to turn your gmail account into another file system. The more prosaic use case of merely checking a gmail account got easier with the release of checkgmail 1.10, which apparently uses Atom feeds for notification. On the server end of the mail system, maildrop 2.0.2 and geximon 0.7.3 are now available. A couple of final things you might be interested include a new version of espeak, the speech synthesizer, 1.15, a new Intel video driver update by Matthew Garrett, 1.6.0, the 2nd release candidate of the 1.0 release of Fluxbox, 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2. Andrew Mitchell uploaded the new krb5-auth-dialog 0.6, which is a dialog for dialog for reauthenticating kerberos tickets. Those of you still stuck with Windows partitions will notice the new ntfs-3g 20060920, which allows full read and write to NTFS drives, all done in userspace. Lastly, Xen has 2.6.17 this week, thanks to the hard work of Chuck Short. xen-source-2.6.17 and xen-restricted-modules-2.6.17 were uploaded right on the last day of the month. == Launchpad News == Welcome to another round of Launchpad updates covering changes included in this week's rollout. This cycle was mainly focused on polishing of existing features, although a number of new features that are under development were brought closer to deployment. === Bug watch enhancements === The new features deployed in this rollout make bug watches a bit more convenient to work with: it is now possible to specify a remote bug tracker for a specific upstream product; when adding new bug watches to distribution bugs, the bugtracker and product name will be prefilled if there is information linking the package to an upstream product. The prefilling also works for upstream products that are officially using Launchpad as a bug tracker. For instance, if you visit the page for the [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bugs bazaar source package in Ubuntu], notice a bug which is an upstream matter, when marking it as upstream you will notice that the name "bazaar" is already filled in. This small improvement is the first in a number of enhancements planned for upstream bug forwarding. Bug information can now also be synchronized from archived debian bugs; this is the reason why a number of bug watches were updated at once this week (and you may have received some bugmail letting you know!). === CVE reports === The CVE report pages were reformatted and optimized; you can see the general CVE status for Ubuntu at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+cve here This listing displays CVEs related to bugs, and their current status. There are now also CVE reports for upstream products -- but no products have CVEs linked to their bugs yet! === Other bug tracking improvements === Handling of binary package names as input in the Package: field was improved in the bug-filing and bug-changing page. Oh, and the 'Untriaged' status was renamed to 'Undecided'; this avoids confusing the concepts of "status triage" and "importance definition". Time to update your bookmarks! === Distribution and package management enhancements === On the distribution management front, this rollout included new formatting for mirror listings; the number of official mirrors for Ubuntu is growing rapidly, and we aim to make this information authoritative for the distribution in the coming weeks: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+cdmirrors https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+archivemirrors This rollout meant deployment of the optimization and code improvement work done in the London sprint. Visible results of this deployment are significantly faster publisher runs (with no-op runs taking negligible time, and the faster 'real' runs taking around 7 minutes). Package builds are now issued to saner sets of architectures, taking into account package-specific architecture restrictions. With respect to upload processing, failed uploads now trigger email notifications to theperson uploading as well; uploads to frozen releases go straight to the pending-approval queue, and superseding backport uploads behave as expected. The Soyuz team also invested long hours into an acceptance testing system which was used to verify the changes done over this period prior to rollout. The test system successfully pointed out regressions and allowed fixes to be verified before deployment. A script for automatically retrying failed builds was implemented, and the queue tool was updated to include pocket information and behave correctly in a few corner cases (read the detailed changelog for the details). === Branches in the Bazaar === One interesting Launchpad feature for upstream products is the tracking of series and releases. Each release represents an actual new tarball release of upstream; a series represents a line of tarball releases that were spawned from the same long-term code branch. Product series can now have Bazaar branches linked to them, this branch ideally containing the coding work done for that specific series. The product can select which series is its main development ("trunk", or "HEAD" in CVS terms) series, containing new feature work being implemented. This allows Launchpad to more closely model the coding work done on an upstream product, which will in turn make it easier to use Bazaar to manage the codebase for a product, and in particular, derivations of that codebase. === Other news === On the translations front, improvements to the automatic package imports were deployed; they reduce the amount of manual nursing required for imports of packages with unusual directory layouts. Language pack generation was optimized, as were the pages that report translation status for languages in specific distribution releases. A number of additional performance improvements are in queue and will be deployed as part of the next rollout. In the ticket tracker, subscriptions of support contacts were modified to be implicit. This means that new support contacts are automatically notified of all existing ticket modifications. The calendaring feature in Launchpad was temporarily disabled; we found it was too buggy to be useful, and have chosen to now focus on features which are priorities for this period. Full announcement and changelog at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2006-October/000667.html == In The Press == Ubuntu isn't quite yet synonymous with Linux, but it is increasingly referenced in the tech press whenever the subject of Linux is raised. Check out this recent comment by Sun Microsystems CEO Jonathan Schwartz: ''We're not anti-vendor. We're not here to bash anybody. Every single business we're in must be multi-platform if it's going to be successful. When I'm selling the hardware we're talking about, I'm going to be thrilled to talk to the Linux community about running Ubuntu on Niagara. When I'm talking about Solaris I'm going to be thrilled to talk to you about HP and Dell. They are no longer competitors in my mind. They are now channel partners.'' You can read more at http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3634846 Malcolm Yates, Canonical's ISV and partner manager has been interviewed by Information Week on the topic of Ubuntu's growing relationships with Independent Software Vendors and Original Equipment Manufacturers: "I think the next few months will see us involved more and more with enterprises looking at using Ubuntu to deliver business solutions. Previously, we have seen Ubuntu deployed in organizations where it it was hidden, but now with full and extended support, we are getting calls, to move to Ubuntu as a major Linux platform." You can read the whole thing at http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=37538&r=hstory Ubuntu Member Melissa Draper was recently interviewed by Australia's LA Updates. You can listen to it at http://www.localfoss.org/taxonomy/term/20 In his speech to the Labour Party conference in Britain last week, Bill Clinton talked about the importance of the "spirit of ubuntu". The resulting BBC News article featured a stylish thong from our very own Cafepress Ubuntu shop. The article can be found at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5388182.stm. And a few weeks back, the newsletter of DistroWatch mentioned the Ubuntu Marketing Team, and more specifically, the Ubuntu Surveys. You can read the newsletter, including the non-Ubuntu bits at http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060918. If you have not yet taken the survey, you can do so at http://surveys.geekosophical.net. == Meetings and other similar events == [CommunityCouncilAgenda Community Council Meeting] 2006-10-03 17:00 GMT == Upcoming Events == [http://www.linuxinfotag.de Linux Info Tag in Dresden] Dresden, Saxony/Germany 2006-10-08 == Feature Of The Week - Bip == Bip, an IRC proxy, keeps you connected to IRC, stores logs, and can even produce a backlog which displays upon connection from your IRC client to the server. You can install Bip on a server that stays connected, and connect as many clients as you wish while using the same nickname. So, once you setup Bip, you connect to it like you would any ordinary server, while using your IP, port, and a custom password (which bip can generate and encrypt) - Bip will do the rest. For instance, Bip is setup on server 192.168.1.3, using the default Bip port of 7778, and using the username 'Bip', password 'biprocks', and network 'freenode'. I would set my client up to connect to the server and port, and in the "Password" section for the connection on my IRC client, I would enter Bip:biprocks:freenode. Now, I am connected from my localhost to my Bip server, which means I can reboot my localhost and never loose connection to IRC, meaning I won't miss a thing. People on IRC won't even know I rebooted! Info: http://bip.berlios.de Help: #bip on irc.oftc.net for the official support channel. Also, feel free to contact RichardJohnson on IRC as nixternal for more help. You can find him on Freenode and OFTC regularly. == Additional News Resources == You can subscribe to the Ubuntu Weekly News via RSS at: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/uwn/feed As always, you can find more news and announcements at: http://www.ubuntu.com/news and http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ == Security Updates == * USN-353-1: OpenSSL vulnerabilities - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-353-1 * USN-352-1: Thunderbird vulnerabilities - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-352-1 == Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Updates == No updates were made, however, several packages were backported: * Accepted amarok 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu8~dapper1 * Accepted konversation 1.0-0ubuntu5~dapper1 * Accepted ktorrent 2.0.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 * Accepted libvisual-plugins 0.4.0.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1~dapper1 * Accepted cpio 2.6-10ubuntu0.1 == Bug Stats == * Open (15684) (+124 over last week) * Unconfirmed (8228) * Unassigned (11028) * All bugs ever reported (56546) Daniel Holbach has posted a list of Bug Tasks for people looking for things to do. You can read more at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2006-September/000908.html == Conclusion == Thank you for reading the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. See you next week! == Credits == The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is brought to you by: * Melissa Draper * David Symons * John Little * Eldo Varghese * Richard Johnson * Jenda Vancura * Paul O'Malley * Corey Burger * And many others == Feedback == This document is maintained by the Ubuntu Marketing Team. Please feel free to contact us regarding any concerns or suggestions by either sending an email to ubuntu-marketing(a)lists.ubuntu.com or by using any of the other methods on the [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam Ubuntu Marketing Team Contact Information Page]. -- ubuntu-news mailing list ubuntu-news(a)lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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endace info request
by Gavin Denby 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

ooops works better when I send from an approved address .. anyway ... anyone here use, or know much about these units other than the limited website details http://www.endace.com/ Wondering if anyone is using, or has used these and what they think of these Certainly looks like an interesting mix of open source and hardware embedding

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endace
by Gavin Denby 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

anyone here use, or know much about these units other than the limited website details http://www.endace.com/ Wondering if anyone is using, or has used these and what they think of these Certainly looks like an interesting mix of open source and hardware embedding

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Novell goes after SCO money
by Ian McDonald 03 Oct '06

03 Oct '06

In an interesting twist Novell is basically trying to shut SCO down saying they haven't been paying them for their Unix licenses and this is what is funding their lawsuits - money that doesn't belong to them but Novell. http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2130519101.html I think everybody has long since realised that SCO's threats to Linux are nearly over but this would be nice to finally die... -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Suse drops ReiserFS as default and explains why
by Ian McDonald 03 Oct '06

03 Oct '06

Interesting read for people interested in Linux filesystems and trends: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/suse-102-ditching-reiserfs-as-it-defa… Maybe Perry's filesystem could become the default one they are talking about as they want a cluster/distributed file system in the future -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Interesting interview with Mark Shuttleworth on Ubuntu future
by Ian McDonald 02 Oct '06

02 Oct '06

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/mag/shuttleworth2.html -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Waikato Linux Users Group Incorporated Committee for 2007
by Craig Box 02 Oct '06

02 Oct '06

Congratulations to the following people, who were last night voted in as the Executive Committee for the WLUG for 2007: President: Ian McDonald Vice-President: Lindsay Druett Treasurer: James Pluck Secretary: Bruce Kingsbury General Committee: Simon Green Chris O'Halloran Rod Aldridge Minutes are now available at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2006-10-02. Unfortunately, the turnout for the AGM last night was a bit disappointing. If you need to pay your 2006-2007 subscription, information on how to pay is available at https://secure.wlug.org.nz/join.html. Craig

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AGM tonight, 7:30, TW2.07
by Craig Box 02 Oct '06

02 Oct '06

In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter, I would like to remind all members that the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting tonight, Monday, 2 October, 2006, at 7.30pm, at the regular meeting location of room TW.2.07 at the University of Waikato. New committee -------------- All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WLUG committee for 2007. The charter specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and three general committee members. **Please note at this point there is nobody seeking election for the position of secretary!** To stand for the committee, please email secretary at wlug.org.nz. If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2005-2006, and signed a new membership form for '06-'07. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Regards, Craig Box WLUG Secretary

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Opensource ORC
by Ian McDonald 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

If this interests you have a look at: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/191251 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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One laptop per pc update
by Ian McDonald 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

For those that saw the documentary and want to know more about technical status update this is interesting at: http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Torvalds talks about GPLv3
by Ian McDonald 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/19/1531258&from=rss -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Short article on Gnome 2.16 new features
by Ian McDonald 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

This will be in Ubuntu 6.10 out next month: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/2031230 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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MEETING TONIGHT: Codebreakers documentary, end of year windup and free pizza
by Craig Box 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

For tonights meeting, we will air BBC World's documentary "The Codebreakers", about free/open source software. We will also present a short recap of the events of Software Freedom Day and a general pre-AGM wrapup, and then we will feed you with the promised Italian flatbreads. A synopsis for the documentary is below. Craig -- The famous digital divide is getting wider. A documentary, The Codebreakers aired on BBC World in May, examines whether free/open source software (FOSS) might be the bridge? FOSS contains 'source code' that can be used, copied, studied, modified and redistributed without restriction. It has been around for over 20 years but most PC owners are not aware that the Internet search engines and many computer applications run on FOSS. "It's not that FOSS has had a bad press, it has had no press because there is no company that 'owns' it," says executive producer Robert Lamb. "But we found that in the computer industry and among the afficionados, it is well known and its virtues well understood." The crew of the independent producers who made the film went to nearly a dozen countries around the world to see how the adoption of FOSS presents opportunities for industry and capacity development, software piracy reduction, and localization and customization for diverse cultural and development needs. Stories from The Codebreakers include computer and Internet access for school children in Africa, reaching the poor in Brazil, tortoise breeding programmes in the Galapagos, connecting villages in Spain, and disaster management in Sri Lanka. The documentary also includes interviews from key figures around the world. Intel, IBM, Sun and Microsoft all seem to agree that FOSS is a welcome presence in computer software. According to Jonathan Murray of Microsoft "The Open Source community stimulates innovation in software, it's something that frankly we feel very good about and it's something that we absolutely see as being a partnership with Microsoft." For more information, and to download a copy, see http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc

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Myspace videos in Debian or Ubuntu??
by Ian McDonald 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

Folks, Most myspace videos don't play in Linux that I can see because they use a newer flash movie format and the Linux version is still stuck on 7 (although 9 is on it's way...) Can anybody tell me if I'm wrong or a workaround? Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Open office to support plugins
by Ian McDonald 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6118676.html?part=rss&tag=6118676&subj=news -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Running Linux on old PCs.
by Ian McDonald 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Good article here: http://polishlinux.org/choose/linux-on-old-hardware/ -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Updated proprietary drivers
by Ian McDonald 21 Sep '06

21 Sep '06

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=551&num=1 https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&q… This may be of interest to people. It shows the drivers changing and in some cases improving. It also shows the danger of non-free drivers as well. These drivers support old versions of X and not the latest (so I can't use easily on Debian Unstable). They don't yet support ailgx and of course you are limited to Intel/AMD platforms. The ATI driver drops support for old cards too... Now if Intel would mark their cards faster as they have supported the community by making open source drivers. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Ubuntu Local Community Team for New Zealand relaunched
by Craig Box 21 Sep '06

21 Sep '06

Ubuntu New Zealand: Local Community Team ---------------------------------------- Ever since the birth of computers, enthusiasts and fans around the world have collected together in garages, universities and pubs to talk about their interest, learn from each other and help promote their interest. Combine this with the huge popularity of Ubuntu, and you get the Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) project. A LoCo team is formed to help groups of Ubuntu fans and enthusiasts in a particular region to help advocate, promote, translate, develop and otherwise improve Ubuntu. With the support of Jono Bacon, the Ubuntu Community Manager, and the awesome AustralianTeam, we're launching a New Zealand team for Ubuntu (http://ubuntu-nz.org/) What's involved? ---------------- What would you like to be involved? Activities other teams have engaged in include, but are not limited to: * development & coaching new, interested contributors * regional customisation * translations * advocacy, both virtually and locally * CD & merchandise distribution * IRC support (or just hanging out) There are no set goals for the team yet - it's entirely up to you, the new members, to decide as a group what we should do. Involvement in a LoCo is an easy way to get involved with the global Ubuntu community for non-developers and developers alike. There are people involved from many teams within Ubuntu who can help you gain useful skills for further involvement if you are keen! How can I get involved? ----------------------- Join our mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-nz) and our IRC channel (#ubuntu-nz on Freenode - irc://irc.freenode.org:6667/#ubuntu-nz) More details are available from the website: http://ubuntu-nz.org/ Craig (Please pass this message onto your local LUG mailing list if it hasn't been there already!)

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Linux Client Migration Cookbook
by Martin, Anthony (NZ) 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

"Linux Client Migration Cookbook" available for download IBM has published a final draft of its "Redbook" titled Linux Client Migration Cookbook, Version 2: A Practical Planning and Implementation Guide for Migrating to Desktop Linux. The 376-page book, which targets enterprises needing to begin an evaluation of desktop Linux, is available for free download. <http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5790800597.html>

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Problem with Google Earth Updating
by Leslie Katz 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

Thanks very much to both Simon and zcat for taking the trouble to reply to my query. I began by trying zcat's solution (merely editing my .bashrc to change Firefox to firefox) and it worked, so it seems as though some PATH designation already supplied the necessary path. Funny about that capitalisation. Like many things, it's so obvious, once someone else has the wit to point it out! Thanks again, Leslie

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Correction re AGM
by Craig Box 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

The regular meeting location is room TW2.07, not room LitB, at the University of Waikato. Sorry for causing confusion. Craig

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REMINDER: Annual General Meeting, 2 October
by Craig Box 19 Sep '06

19 Sep '06

In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter, I would like to announce to all members that the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting on Monday, 2 October, 2006, at 7pm, at the regular meeting location of room LitB at the University of Waikato. New committee ============= All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WLUG committee for 2007. The charter specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and three general committee members. To stand for the committee, please email secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2005-2006, and signed a new membership form for '06-'07. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Regards, Craig WLUG Secretary

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Problem with Google Earth Updating
by Leslie Katz 19 Sep '06

19 Sep '06

When I try the above from within the application, I get the following message: "Could not launch any web browser. Please make sure you have set the $BROWSER environment variable to the name of the filename we should launch!" When I issue the command "env", among the output, I find the following: "BROWSER=Firefox" Why is that not sufficient for Google Earth's purposes? Do I need to add a version reference or some other thing?

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Software Freedom Day Event
by Lindsay Druett 17 Sep '06

17 Sep '06

Hi There, From what I have seen and heard, the feedback has been awesome. I'm still getting up to speed as to what other LUGs and other groups have done to celebrate Software Freedom Day, but on the whole, from what I have seen looking at the software freedom webpage, I feel very confident to say that ours was world class and we gave awesome open public exposure to open source software. There are photos of the event that took place online, look at http://softwarefreedomday.org/gallery/2006/gallery/2006/oceania/nz/hamilton Thankyou all who got involved in making this event happen. I would like to this opportunity to single out three people out who did an outstandingly stunning job of making this happen... Craig Box, Ian McDonald, and Bruce Kingsbury. Without you guys, this event would not have happened. I would also like to thank Sue Kingsbury, Bruce's wife who supported Bruce, and also Cairo and Destiny, Bruce's daughters, who took turns dressing up as Tux, I think it was mostly Cairo. And, I would also like to thank our supporters... IT Partners (http://www.itpartners.co.nz/) for the loan of the computers WAND Group (http://wand.cs.waikato.ac.nz/) for loan of the TV and other bits and pieces Gateway Christian Centre (http://www.gateway-net.com/) for the loan of the tables and chairs Mystique Costume Hire who made the Tux Penguin Suit especially for us and also Telecom, Centreplace/Downtown Plaza management. Furthermore, I would also like to thank those who helped behind the scenes, those who came on the day, demonstrated open source software and shared their experiences with OSS, and also Ron Dean particularly, but others who have taken photos of the event that has taken place. I would like to take an opportunity to make comment that Open Source Freedom day is about celebrating and putting a day aside to promote free and open source software, however, it is not a day to be seen as a day put aside, or a an event to be held on that day, where there is open season to denigrate vendors, in particular Microsoft, who choose the copyright and charge out a licence fee on a per user and/or per seat basis. Hey, excellent work... Regards, Lindsay Druett, WLUG President.

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Problem Installing Democracy Player
by Leslie Katz 16 Sep '06

16 Sep '06

Thanks to both of you for your replies. I should've said in my original post that I had already installed pyrex, without overcoming the error message about Pyrex.Distutils by doing so. I apologise for that omission, which was caused by my being a bit flustered. However, something written by Dominic reminded me of an earlier occasion on which I sought help on this list regarding a python script. The person who kindly helped me then pointed out that installing python2.4, while not uninstalling python2.3, wouldn't, of itself, help me to run a script that said it required python2.4. Python2.3 was being used as the default version on my system, so that I had to force the script to use python2.4. When I did that, the script worked. Since Dominic had told me that the Pyrex scripts should appear in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages, I went looking, not there, but in /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages. Sure enough, that's where they'd been installed. I therefore copied Pyrex/ into /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages and re-ran run.sh. On that attempt, there was no longer a complaint about the absence of the module Pyrex.Distutils. Instead, I got a different complaint further into the setup script, as follows: Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 175, in ? packages = getCommandOutput("pkg-config --list-all") File "setup.py", line 124, in getCommandOutput raise RuntimeError("%s outputted the following error:\n%s" % RuntimeError: pkg-config --list-all outputted the following error: Package dbus-1 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dbus-1.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable Package 'dbus-1', required by 'NetworkManager', not found I went looking on my system for RPMS with dbus in their name and found I had four of them. One in particular was called dbus-python-0.22-10.FC3.2.i386.rpm and I assumed it was the relevant one. I got a list of all the files in that package. There were six of them: dbus.py; dbus.pyc; dbus.pyo; dbus_bindings.a; dbus_bindings.la; and dbus_bindings.so. I went looking for those six files and found them all in /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages. I therefore tried the same trick as I'd tried with the Pyrex directory, namely, copying all six files into /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages, but the trick would only work once. When I re-ran run.sh, I still got the same error message I set out above. (It's those files with "binding" in their names that are causing the trouble, I suspect.) My current question, therefore, is how do I get into /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages copies of the dbus-python rpm's files that will work? One last thing. Craig raised a wry smile on my face by telling me upgrading was good. I've been wanting to upgrade for ages, but I'm too afraid. What I really need is a step-by-step guide in words of one syllable, explaining to me how to prepare for an upgrade, so that, after upgrading, I'll still have all my current data, my applications that I've separately installed and my settings for my current applications. Without that security blanket, I feel I'm stuck with FC3 indefinitely. Thanks again, Leslie

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Problem Installing Democracy Player
by Leslie Katz 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

Thank you to all of you who've offered help with this problem. I haven't given up yet and am slowly inching forward with the installation process. Now I've reached some problem about pygtk. Whether I'll ever get to the end of the process, I don't know, but, in the way of these things, I suppose that if I do, the application won't be much anyway. Oh well. Thanks again, Leslie

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Asterisk on a large site
by Ian McDonald 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Replaces Cisco VoIP and PABX Interesting read: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2006/091206-von-sam-houston.html?page=1 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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What is democracy player?
by Ian McDonald 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Saw this today at lwn.net and thought it is timely given SFD. Democracy player 0.9 Last February, the Participatory Culture Foundation announced its existence with the launch of the "Democracy" player, billed as "the world's first comprehensive open source Internet TV system." Many Linux users may be excused for not trying out the program at that time; despite being a GPL-licensed program, Democracy had not been ported to the Linux platform. That situation has now changed; on September 11, Democracy 0.9 was announced. It runs on Linux, and packages for Debian, Fedora Core, Gentoo, and Ubuntu are provided; the source is available for everybody else. Beyond the Linux port, this version promises a polished user interface, a new playlist capability, Flash video support, and more. Your editor clearly had no choice; a tool like this simply must be tried out. Unfortunately, the Democracy experience is still rather spotty at best. It requires the installation of a number of proprietary codecs (which is not particularly surprising, once one thinks about it - the Democracy developers will have no magic solutions there). The system can be sluggish to respond, and your editor never was able to get it to display a video in its own window. It also would not explain why it failed to display anything, so there was little to be done about it. But your editor was able to get far enough to realize one important thing: video display is not really what Democracy is about in the first place. This tool is really a sort of video feed aggregator for free video content; it has all the required features around sorting feeds into categories, collecting votes for interesting videos, using BitTorrent to download videos in a provider-friendly way, and more. There is also significant support for people who want to create their own video feeds. What Democracy and its supporting foundation are trying to do is to get as many people as possible into the business of creating and distributing interesting content. The term "Internet TV" is somewhat off the mark - Democracy will suit couch potatoes just fine, but its real purpose is to get them off their couches and participating in the process. It is trying to create a world where video content is free, universal, and compelling - so it has tools for finding and distributing videos but a distinct lack of DRM support. This is an important goal - television is too important to leave to the TV companies. If the Democracy system can help to bring more free content into existence, it will have done good thing. Some progress in that direction has been made: there are, it is said, some 600 channels of free content available now, and, doubtless, more to come. The current code has real promise; it looks like a capable system for discovering, distributing, and managing interesting video content. If they can get past the remaining troublesome issues, the Democracy hackers will have created a valuable tool indeed.

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Problem Installing Democracy Player
by Leslie Katz 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

I read about Democracy Player on the Web and thought I'd like to try it. My distribution is Fedora Core, but I'm still using v 3 and there was no RPM for that version. I therefore downloaded the tarball and got to the stage at which I was told to run run.sh to see whether I had the necessary dependencies installed. This is what happened when I did that: [root(a)localhost gtk-x11]# ./run.sh Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 46, in ? from Pyrex.Distutils import build_ext ImportError: No module named Pyrex.Distutils [root(a)localhost gtk-x11]# I don't understand how to overcome the problem disclosed. I thought that it might be possible for me to get an RPM which was or included Pyrex.Distutils, but I couldn't find such an RPM. I then Googled on Pyrex.Distutils, but, to be blunt, what I read was beyond me. If anyone can explain to me what I should be doing to overcome the problem, I'd be grateful. Leslie

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Command line internet
by Ian McDonald 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Quite an interesting article here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-speakingunix3.html?ca=… -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Ubuntu wireless tutorial
by Ian McDonald 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

For those interested: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/05/2055232 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Linux permissions
by Matthias Dallmeier 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

http://forums.wlug.org.nz/viewtopic.php?t=50 Is anyone able to help with this? -- Matthias

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Setting console font size
by Ian McDonald 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Folks, Is there a recommended way to alter this easily without going into great pain in the config file. I'm using debian-unstable and just added a kernel boot parameter vga=ask and hacked /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh by putting an exit in. Is there a nice easy way or is this hack just as good? Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Software Freedom Day
by Craig Box 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Software Freedom Day is this coming Saturday. Everything is coming together nicely, and I'd like to thank everyone who has helped so far. Again, it's been mostly carried by the committee; we put up a forum and requested comment on it, as well as announcing it at meetings and on the mailing list, but other than a couple of people signing up on the wiki page, not much traction from the general membership. I hope you all make up for this by coming down to see us on the day! On the day ========== We have a stand in Centreplace, which we'll have some computers running demos of OSS. Everyone is encouraged to come down and say hello, and if you don't have an Ubuntu 6.06 CD, we might be able to flick one your way. Extra help ========== We'll need people to assist at set-up and tear-down time, and help with general things during the day. If you're interested, please drop me a line by e-mail. Regards Craig

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linux.conf.au 2007 Call For Participation - Five days to go!
by Craig Box 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

linux.conf.au 2007 Call For Participation - Five days to go! ============================================================ There are only FIVE DAYS LEFT to submit your proposal for linux.conf.au 2007. Heed our words, procrastinators -- your time has come! Remember to check the 'travel assistance' box if you can't get to Australia under your own steam... If your submission rocks, we'll sort that out for you. :-) http://lca2007.linux.org.au/cfp Important dates =============== * Extended proposal deadline: September 15, 2006 * Notifications by review committee: October 15, 2006 * Conference begins: January 15, 2007 Call for Participation ====================== Presentations are the main part of the conference and consist of a 40 minute talk followed by 10 minutes for questions. Presentations provide an an ideal opportunity to present a new technology or idea to the community. Papers related to their presentation can be submitted by academics who are accepted to give a presentation in the conference. These papers are peer-reviewed by an international papers committee. Papers will be included in the conference proceedings. The papers track allows students, researchers and academics to have their work formally recognised. Tutorials are half-day presentations which provide an opportunity to provide an in-depth and hands on look at a specific technology. These tutorials should be interactive, and the level of expertise required by participants should be clear so people can choose tutorials appropriate to their level. Mini-confs form an important part of linux.conf.au by providing an opportunity for various groups within the community to come together to share ideas and experiences. Mini-confs can be 1 or 2 day events, and an appropriate room will be provided by the linux.conf.au team. There will be other opportunities to participate in linux.conf.au 2007, such as poster sessions, lighting talks and BOFs however organisation of these events will happen immediately before, or at the conference. Topics ====== Most presentations will be of a technical nature, however we encourage presentations covering educational, organisational, community or similar aspects of Open Source software. Promotional presentations, commercial advertisements, sales pitches and their like are not appropriate for this conference. Proposals on the following topics are encouraged: * System administration: - Monitoring - Deployment - Best practices - Linux deployments, practical experiences and war stories * Deep hacking: - Low level design and implementation of large and complex pieces of software such as kernels, database engines, or compilers. * The Craft of Programming - Programming languages - Tools - Project management * Free culture - Open Source in education - Important legal - Advocacy - Community - Government * The user experience - Open media, multi-media - Desktop environment - End-user applications, productivity apps * Cool hacks - Anything which doesn't fall under one of the other topics Review Committee ================ * Angus Lees * Andre Pang * Conrad Parker * Erik de Castro Lopo * Glynn Foster * Mary Gardiner * Martin Pool * Michael Davies * Peter Chubb * Robert Collins * Rusty Russell * Silvia Pfeiffer Proposal Guidelines =================== Proposals for presentations and tutorials should be around 400 words and should detail the subject you want to talk about and include links to any other relevant details, such as a project home page. Remember this proposal needs to convince our programme committee that you should be talking at linux.conf.au 2007. Proposals for miniconfs can be up to 2000 words, and should detail the community involved, the expected number of attendees, proposed activities and detail any support you would like from the organising committee. This proposal needs to convince us that you can organise an interesting, successful miniconf that people are going to want to go to! Papers should be no longer than 14 pages and are reliant upon the related presentation being accepted for linux.conf.au. Papers and proposals should be submitted in an appropriate open format, such as 7-bit ASCII text, HTML, DocBook or LaTeX. Proposal requires pre-registration, providing the following information: * Full name (and preferred handle, if any) * Complete email address * Short biography, in around 1 - 3 paragraphs. The biography should include any previous speaking or organising experience. Proposals and papers and should be submitted through our web form: http://lca2007.linux.org.au/cfp Any featured software in papers must be available under a licence compatible with the Open Source Definition. Any papers that are accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms will be rejected. All successful papers must be eligible for republication on-line and on distribution media given to conference attendees. linux.conf.au requires publication rights to accepted papers, including the publication of the audio proceedings as well as publication and reproduction rights to any video filmed during the presentations. These rights are non-exclusive. Copyright ownership is retained by the author. Submitting an abstract indicates understanding of and consent to these conditions. In the event that you miss one of the deadlines we reserve the right to revoke any offer to present your paper. We take having the paper for the conference proceedings very seriously and late proposals place an undue burden on our formatting team. All proposals must be complete by the closing date -- that is, the 15th of September is not merely a closing date for abstracts.

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[Fwd: [Linux-aus] linux.conf.au 2007 Call For Participation - Five days to go!]
by Matt Brown 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Jeff asked people to: If you're watching this list and love your LUG, please pass this message on to your fellow LUG members! Thanks, - Jeff So, don't say you weren't informed :P -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Linux-aus] linux.conf.au 2007 Call For Participation - Five days to go! Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:26:03 +1000 From: Jeff Waugh <jdub(a)perkypants.org> To: Linux Australia <linux-aus(a)lists.linux.org.au> linux.conf.au 2007 Call For Participation - Five days to go! ============================================================ There are only FIVE DAYS LEFT to submit your proposal for linux.conf.au 2007. Heed our words, procrastinators -- your time has come! Remember to check the 'travel assistance' box if you can't get to Australia under your own steam... If your submission rocks, we'll sort that out for you. :-) http://lca2007.linux.org.au/cfp Important dates =============== * Extended proposal deadline: September 15, 2006 * Notifications by review committee: October 15, 2006 * Conference begins: January 15, 2007 Call for Participation ====================== Presentations are the main part of the conference and consist of a 40 minute talk followed by 10 minutes for questions. Presentations provide an an ideal opportunity to present a new technology or idea to the community. Papers related to their presentation can be submitted by academics who are accepted to give a presentation in the conference. These papers are peer-reviewed by an international papers committee. Papers will be included in the conference proceedings. The papers track allows students, researchers and academics to have their work formally recognised. Tutorials are half-day presentations which provide an opportunity to provide an in-depth and hands on look at a specific technology. These tutorials should be interactive, and the level of expertise required by participants should be clear so people can choose tutorials appropriate to their level. Mini-confs form an important part of linux.conf.au by providing an opportunity for various groups within the community to come together to share ideas and experiences. Mini-confs can be 1 or 2 day events, and an appropriate room will be provided by the linux.conf.au team. There will be other opportunities to participate in linux.conf.au 2007, such as poster sessions, lighting talks and BOFs however organisation of these events will happen immediately before, or at the conference. Topics ====== Most presentations will be of a technical nature, however we encourage presentations covering educational, organisational, community or similar aspects of Open Source software. Promotional presentations, commercial advertisements, sales pitches and their like are not appropriate for this conference. Proposals on the following topics are encouraged: * System administration: - Monitoring - Deployment - Best practices - Linux deployments, practical experiences and war stories * Deep hacking: - Low level design and implementation of large and complex pieces of software such as kernels, database engines, or compilers. * The Craft of Programming - Programming languages - Tools - Project management * Free culture - Open Source in education - Important legal - Advocacy - Community - Government * The user experience - Open media, multi-media - Desktop environment - End-user applications, productivity apps * Cool hacks - Anything which doesn't fall under one of the other topics Review Committee ================ * Angus Lees * Andre Pang * Conrad Parker * Erik de Castro Lopo * Glynn Foster * Mary Gardiner * Martin Pool * Michael Davies * Peter Chubb * Robert Collins * Rusty Russell * Silvia Pfeiffer Proposal Guidelines =================== Proposals for presentations and tutorials should be around 400 words and should detail the subject you want to talk about and include links to any other relevant details, such as a project home page. Remember this proposal needs to convince our programme committee that you should be talking at linux.conf.au 2007. Proposals for miniconfs can be up to 2000 words, and should detail the community involved, the expected number of attendees, proposed activities and detail any support you would like from the organising committee. This proposal needs to convince us that you can organise an interesting, successful miniconf that people are going to want to go to! Papers should be no longer than 14 pages and are reliant upon the related presentation being accepted for linux.conf.au. Papers and proposals should be submitted in an appropriate open format, such as 7-bit ASCII text, HTML, DocBook or LaTeX. Proposal requires pre-registration, providing the following information: * Full name (and preferred handle, if any) * Complete email address * Short biography, in around 1 - 3 paragraphs. The biography should include any previous speaking or organising experience. Proposals and papers and should be submitted through our web form: http://lca2007.linux.org.au/cfp Any featured software in papers must be available under a licence compatible with the Open Source Definition. Any papers that are accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms will be rejected. All successful papers must be eligible for republication on-line and on distribution media given to conference attendees. linux.conf.au requires publication rights to accepted papers, including the publication of the audio proceedings as well as publication and reproduction rights to any video filmed during the presentations. These rights are non-exclusive. Copyright ownership is retained by the author. Submitting an abstract indicates understanding of and consent to these conditions. In the event that you miss one of the deadlines we reserve the right to revoke any offer to present your paper. We take having the paper for the conference proceedings very seriously and late proposals place an undue burden on our formatting team. All proposals must be complete by the closing date -- that is, the 15th of September is not merely a closing date for abstracts. _______________________________________________ linux-aus mailing list linux-aus(a)lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/linux-aus -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 21 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz

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the wlug and joinging
by Haldor Riddering 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

hey guys and gals, I've been following this list for a few months now andh ave recently changed my laptop over to ubuntu and going to change my deskyop that way too though maybe another flavour of linux. anyways the questions I have is: I would like to become a paying member of the wlug and mayeb come to some meetings to meet people and learn from them. how do I become a member and where and how often do you guys meet. I read parts of the wiki but am still confused. also is there a map to where the building is at the uni? how long do meetings go for as well. I live in cambridge so will need to drive there and new to hamilton. anyhelp here would be awesome. thanks for help Haldor Riddering

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Interesting article about Konqueror
by Ian McDonald 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

This is quite a good read here: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/29/1957219 I didn't know that you could look at man pages and browse other machines that are running ssh using this for example. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Good articles from Forbes on Ubuntu and Linux
by Ian McDonald 06 Sep '06

06 Sep '06

Has a number of interesting articles on sidebar. Not technical - good articles though. http://www.forbes.com/home/technology/2006/09/05/linux-ubuntu-opensource_cz… -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Upcoming elections and you...
by Greig McGill 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Hi All, It's been quite a while since I posted to this list. I've been lurking. I'd just like to ask you all to do me a big favour... For the last four years, the same very dedicated group of people have served as the WLUG committee, give or take a couple of transient members. I'd like to say they've done a great job, especially as this is the first year I've not been involved! ;) The problem is that it's left to them. I know from past experience that there is a lot of complaining behind the scenes, in private emails, and on irc about WLUG being run by an exclusive group who all know each other, and make decisions without enough consultation. That would be fair criticism if anyone else ever stood for the committee besides this dedicated bunch. Please consider standing for the WLUG committee. It doesn't require too much effort. You just need to be prepared to turn up to meetings regularly, do any tasks that are required of you quickly (and there aren't that many), and be good at reporting back to your fellow committee members. If you have good communication skills, and are a reasonably motivated person, *please* put your name forward. I'd like to think I'm not being hypocritical by not standing myself, I did it for four years, the last as president. I don't think it's unfair of me to hope that others will put their name forward. I've stepped right back this year, hardly even attending meetings, as I've had other priorities. I'd also like to think that the current hard working committee could do the same and not feel like if they do, nobody will step up to fill their shoes. Why does the WLUG even need a committee? After all, other LUGs don't have one. Well, I think that WLUG has achieved more than all the other LUGs in NZ put together. We have a world class knowledge base in our wiki, we have a great library, we have excellent knowledgeable membership, we hold regular informative meetings with interesting speakers, and we're just generally damn cool. Not to mentions things like installfests, software freedom days, and other such public advocacy events. WLUG rocks (I reckon). Would all this have happened without that same dedicated bunch pushing it along? I don't think so. Thank you Lindsay, David, Craig, Ian, Perry, Matthias, and all the other regular helpers, Matt, John, Daniel, and others. Right, I've gone on enough. Please consider standing for the 2006/2007 committee. It's not too much work, and it makes a huge difference. Cheers, Greig McGill

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Fwd: Re: DVD woes!! + wifi
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Sorry Bruce This was meant for everyone... ----- Message Forwarded on Tue 5/9/2006 ----- From: "" <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> To: zcat <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> Subject: Re: [wlug] DVD woes!! + wifi Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:40:19 +1200 Hi All, Just to update you all on my progress. I got my wifi to work in Ubuntu by using an ndiswrapper using this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 One thing that did confuse me was the fact that the command prompt did not return after running a set up script, all that happened was the cursor seemed to (is this usual) just hang, making me think that it had been a failure . When I got to a access point I was happy to find it working. The dvd player which I thought I had got sorted. still does not work. I was using an unencrypted dvd (the reason it worked) when i tried a "normal" dvd the fault still exists. Regards John..

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Annual General Meeting, 2 October
by Craig Box 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

In accordance with Rule 6 of the charter, I would like to announce to all members that the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated) will be holding its Annual General Meeting on Monday, 2 October, 2006, at 7pm, at the regular meeting location of room LitB at the University of Waikato. New committee =========== All WLUG members are encouraged to stand for election onto the WLUG committee for 2007. The charter specifies the committee as consisting of a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and three general committee members. To stand for the committee, please email secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. If you wish to nominate someone, please contact them and ask if they are willing to stand; if you would rather not contact them yourself, feel free to email me and I will pass your request on for you. People with uncertain futures (who may be leaving the Waikato) are encouraged not to let this stop them standing for election, but please only stand if you are committed and prepared to take on a relatively small workload. To be granted voting rights at the meeting, you must have been a paid member for 2005-2006, and signed a new membership form for '06-'07. (Remember, you have 90 days to pay.) Regards, Craig WLUG Secretary

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Firefox 2 beta nice features
by Ian McDonald 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

I found this quite an interesting read: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3852026030.html It has nice features like adding RSS feeds to Bloglines, unclose tabs, open links in new tab by default etc. This article shows a few things I didn't know about previously. Looks like Firefox isn't sitting still as IE starts to catch up. Competition is great! -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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10 misunderstandings about the GPL
by Ian McDonald 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Useful article here if you want to talk to people intelligently about the GPL: http://www.itmanagersjournal.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1659203 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

The WLUG Mailing List is the discussion-list extension of the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated). As such, we expect members of this list to adhere to the principles espoused in the official WLUG Charter[1], in particular, Rule 6, which covers the activities on this mailing list. While this is an Acceptable Use Policy, the WLUG Committee do recognise the need for informal discussion among list members, and draconian administration is not the goal here. Please keep in mind, however, that your comments to this list do represent the WLUG, and while it is good to be seen as an organisation with a sense of humour, some comments may do major harm to our credibility as a serious advocate of GNU/Linux and all things Free Software/ Open Source related. List discussion should * be honest * accentuate the positive, without hyperbole or blatant misrepresentation * maintain a reasonable level of spelling and grammar * not indulge in ad hominem attacks * not continue inflammatory or abusive threads * not be unprofessional or petty, especially with respect to the names of other software companies * not promote or denigrate political, cultural, or religious views * not indulge in marketing or advertising, other than on a private sale basis, or advertising of jobs - which may be announced once only * not reproduce copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder * not defame any person or organisation Posters who consistently violate these guidelines will be dealt with at the discretion of the List Maintainer. If you feel you have been unfairly dealt with, you have recourse to any member of the WLUG Committee[2]. Certain mailing list etiquette should also be maintained: * please use only plain text (not HTML) * reply inline or below when quoting, rather than on top * trim quotes (don't reply quoting a 10 page message with a single line of reply) If you have any questions, start reading at http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html. These points have been established over a long time on this list. If you want to question them, please do it off list. As list users, use your discretion when pulling people up over etiquette - please reply off list, and if there is a serious breach, the list administrator will probably have dealt with it off-list already. [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter [2] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCommittee

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Using Ubuntu and iPods
by Ian McDonald 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Good stuff here (well I think it but I don't have an ipod...) http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In which CraigBox will present an overview of the http://www.wlug.org.nz/Squid caching WebProxy server, including: * how to set it up for a home network * how to have a gateway machine transparently proxy requests * locking down web access * and a sneak preview of what's coming in the new Squid 3.0.

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Committee meeting update
by Craig Box 27 Aug '06

27 Aug '06

Hi everyone, Meeting minutes --------------- Minutes of our last committee meeting are available online at http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2006-08-24. AGM --- The 2005 Annual General Meeting for Waikato Linux Users' Group (Inc) will be held on Monday 2 October, in the regular location. This is one week after our September meeting. The topic of the September meeting will be related to new users (and advertised in a handout at SFD), and include __free pizza__! Software Freedom Day -------------------- We are on track for hosting our Software Freedom Day advocacy event. If you are keen to help out (I haven't yet seen anything from the people who added their name to the wiki page!) please read the forum at http://forums.wlug.org.nz/viewforum.php?f=11, and see if there's anything you can help out with. We will be having a meeting about a week before the day for potential helpers to come along to. We're probably on track for demo people on the day but will still need people to help with set-up and tear-down, as well as random tasks during the day. WLUG server ----------- Thank you for your patience with the WLUG server over the weekend. Perry, Matt and I took the server up to Orcon on Saturday and spent the afternoon installing it. The database was quite corrupt (we were lucky to get the last backup off it) and Perry and Matt spent most of Sunday getting everything under control. On behalf of the committee Shell and mail access should be back online. Secure features such as webmail and the password changer will be down for a while still, while we figure out what we're doing with SSL certificates. See you all tonight for a crash course in the Squid caching web proxy! Craig

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Wiki being upgraded
by Ian McDonald 26 Aug '06

26 Aug '06

Folks, In case you are wondering about the page errors at present this is because the Wiki is being upgraded to our new server provided by HP. Many thanks to the people working on it - especially Perry and Matt who have worked long hours on it not to mention others like Craig, Daniel and John. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Printing with CUPS and Kyocera FS-9500DN
by Chris O'Halloran 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~cmoman/Scan3845.pdf The above pdf is scan of the output I get having configured CUPS on my linux box to print to a Kyocera printer. It appears to me that the printer is not interpreting the PostScript test file as Postscript and is instead interpreting and printing the text within the file. The printer is connected to a local lan and most people print to it via Windows XP computers via a Windows server. I am using KDE with CUPS and have successfully printed to a brother colour laser using IPP and the PPD file from the Brother website. I am using the PPD file from the Kyocera file and linuxprinting.org says the Kyocera is supported perfectly. The Kyocera doesn't appear to use IPP but can be seen as a network printer or via SAMBA but I am not sure if this makes a difference. >From what I have described is a solution obvious? Thanks

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MAME arcade cabinet
by Craig Box 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

Does anyone have or know anyone in the Waikato have an arcade cabinet running MAME (preferably under Linux), and who would loan it to us for a day? Regards Craig

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XGL eye candy for Ubuntu
by James Pluck 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

Has anyone had a chance to try this yet? http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-6107780.html?part=rss&tag=6107780&subj=news -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum

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Running from a USB drive
by Glenn Ramsey 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

Hi, I have sucessfully installed XUbuntu Dapper onto an external USB disk drive. I would like to be able to run it using this drive but the PC I have does not have the option of booting from USB. I understand that one solution to this is to create (or obtain) a custom boot floppy or CD, but I am wondering if it is possible to do it just with the live/install CD by passing the right parameters at the boot prompt. I tried pressing F6 and changing the root=/dev/ram to root=/dev/sda1 and removing all the other stuff but that didn't work. It boots but still runs from the CD. If that approach is not possible then is there a small (we're still in the DSL dark here) prebuilt iso that can be used to do this? I notice that there is a mini.iso in the distribution which I understand has something to do with network booting. Since that isn't too far removed from what I wan't to do then would it possible to use that? I have done some web searching for this but could only find the instructions for making a custom boot floppy or CD. Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In which CraigBox will present an overview of the http://www.wlug.org.nz/Squid caching WebProxy server, including: * how to set it up for a home network * how to have a gateway machine transparently proxy requests * locking down web access * and a sneak preview of what's coming in the new Squid 3.0.

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Getting files from a debian/ubuntu mirror
by Glenn Ramsey 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

I have LAN access to an Ubuntu mirror at Akl uni and I'd like to copy all the Dapper packages (incl multiverse and universe) onto my laptop so I can install it on other PCs at home. For Breezy I just copied the whole thing (11.4Gb), since the mirror was new and that's all that was there but I expect that it will have more than doubled in size now and I won't have HD space for it. Is there a way to copy only the package files for a specified version? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Python problem?
by Leslie Katz 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

Hi, Carlos. I tried your method 1 (except that I substituted "python24" for "python2.4", given the file's funny name) and it worked immediately. Many thanks, Leslie

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Python problem?
by Leslie Katz 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

I downloaded the latest version of youtube-dl (2006.08.15) from www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/. It's a CLI program to download videos from YouTube. The instructions say you need the Python interpreter, v 2.4. A check of my RPM packages showed that I only had python-2.3.4-13.1.i386.rpm installed, so I also installed python24-2.4.1-2.i386.rpm, which I assume means that I now satisfy the requirement for v 2.4 of the Python interpreter. However, when I run youtube-dl, I get the following error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/youtube-dl", line 150, in ? urllib2.install_opener(urllib2.build_opener(urllib2.HTTPCookieProcessor())) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'HTTPCookieProcessor' I checked the contents of the file youtube-dl and line 150 of it is identical to the third of the four lines I just set out. I know nothing about Python. I did google to see if I could find some solution to the problem, but couldn't. Is there anything that strikes people immediately as something I could try to get youtube-dl working?

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Open source WMA/WMV from Real
by Ian McDonald 15 Aug '06

15 Aug '06

http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6105970.html?part=rss&tag=6105970&subj=news I know you can get this already from some sources but this in theory is fully legal rather than obtaining from other countries... Hopefully it will be in a license that can be incorporated into other code so we don't just have to use helix but regardless is another step forward as is Java going more opensource which was also announced at Linux World. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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device order
by zcat 15 Aug '06

15 Aug '06

I ran into a very frustrating problem yesterday, hopefully someone in wlug knows the answer.. Verne has 4 sound devices; onboard sound, two PCI cards, and a USB transmitter. When I first set up breezy I had them loading as /dev/dsp onboard /dev/dsp1 first PCI /dev/dsp2 second PCI When he first got the USB transmitter it kept coming up as /dev/dsp1 and I managed to fix that by listing snd-intel8x0 and snd-ens1371 in /etc/modules, forcing the module for the onboard sound and two PCI cards to load earlier. Yesterday I upgraded to dapper and now all the sound devices come up in completely unpredictable order, not even the same on two consecutive boots. Even though the correct modules are still listed in /etc/modules. Is there a proper way to force devices to get detected in the order I want?

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!! + wifi
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

Is that a single command on one line or two seperate commands? John > > Which suggests that you need to set an environment > variable. Try this in a shell; > > export DVDCSS_RAW_DEVICE=/dev/dvd > totem dvd:// > > And let me know what happens. > >

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!! + wifi
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

You are right about strange, unless the dvd is encrypted differently to the last one we tried... Wlan I read that I need to dump "wifi radar" so just did that while I was out. The Howto says I need to extract a driver but I am sure I saw a reference to the bcm driver in dmesg so looking there then more reading I guess. Bruce. If you would like to I can bring it around at some stage. *........* Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > Here we go this is strange but true, > > * Eats words and watches dvd's* > > I went down and ran "apt-get update then installed > > mplayer. > > That is very strange, because I'm still quite sure we did > already try mplayer when you were here last! But good to > know it's working now. > > > How's the wireless coming along? >

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Irix
by Shane 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hi All, Ive had an indy for a couple of years (complete with working webcam!) but I have no media for the OS (nor a monitor for that matter) As much fun as you can have with one of these things, Id like to have the OS on hand to start from scratch. Does anybody know where I can lay my greasy hands on the media? (and how much beer will need to be traded) Thanks Shane

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Intel opensources graphics drivers
by Ian McDonald 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Good news for us Linux users: http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6103941.html?part=rss&tag=6103941&subj=news Hopefully AMD/ATI and nvidia follow suit but don't hold your breath. This and the fact that a whole lot of wireless drivers are going into the latest kernel drivers signal that things are getting better for Linux on the desktop - especially with great distributions such as Ubuntu also. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Interesting article on digital cameras native format and Linux
by Ian McDonald 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/01/209226 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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SFD planning now on forums
by Craig Box 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

Hi all, As not everyone who wants to help is on the committee, and not everyone who is on the mailing list is in a position to help, and we have new forums that we're trying to encourage people to use, I thought I'd put some more information about what needs to be done up on a forum. Please check out http://forums.wlug.org.nz/viewforum.php?f=11 - each task is in its own topic, so if you're interested or have an opinion, please feel free to post. I will keep updating the first message in each thread as appropriate, but the more conversation, help and support, the better! The success of the LUG hinges on the participation of members. This is an event where we have the opportunity to set out well defined goals and then measure our success. It also has the potential of bringing lots of new blood into the society. Please get behind it. Regards Craig

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!! + wifi
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

Thanks Ian Will try to follow that howto.. John.. > The bcm43xx consists of two parts - one is the in kernel > driver and the other is the binary firmware you extract > from an object file (usually a windows driver). > > dmesg will have the in-kernel driver giving messages even > if no binary firmware is there. > > I have put instructions on how to set it up at: > http://wlug.org.nz/BroadcomWirelessChipset > -- > Ian McDonald > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 > Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com > WAND Network Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Waikato > New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

Here we go this is strange but true, * Eats words and watches dvd's* I went down and ran "apt-get update then installed mplayer. Came home and tossed a dvd in the drive and "VIOLA" the thing started playing in totem as dvd root. So, is there a lib type file in mplayer that totem needs? Bottom line is if the dvd drawer is closed with a disc in, it begins the autoplay in totem-xine. Resolved but I am unsure of how. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > mplayer is one of the few that I have not tried, I will > > go to a network and download it but I am not confident > > about it working. > > John > > > I'm fairly sure we did try that already.. same problem. >

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

----- Original Message Follows ----- > Have you tried mplayer? It's worth a shot. mplayer is one of the few that I have not tried, I will go to a network and download it but I am not confident about it working. John

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cdrw udf writing
by stephen pearce 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

Hi Has anyone experience with this .. I have yet to find a clear explanation on how to mount, format and write using packet writing for cdrw ... I'm using fedora core 5 .. the cdrwtools and udftools packages don't seem to be part of the distro -- Stephen Pearce Critical Care Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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Alsa - The bane of my existence
by Chris Brock 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

Hi everyone. Hopefully someone can help. Installing knoppmyth, and having no end of trouble with the soundcard. Its an onboard VIA VT8235 chipset. On a PCChips M925 motherboard. Alsa auto confs the cards being an ens1731, which doesnt work. Altering the alsa-base file to set it to snd-via82xx with options up the wazoo. Everything seems to be set right Modprobing insmods correctly, and theres no errors, all dependensies load correctly. all procs are running. Try and run either aumix or alsamix and nothing works. Alsa-autoconifg wont detect a device as being there. /proc/asound contains a file called cards which says no soundcards, the only device that seems to detect is the timer. If you need anymore info let me know, im new to this linux thing.

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

Thanks for the response Daniel, The output from: ls -la /dev/dvd is: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-08-07 06:28 /dev/dvd -> hdc The output from: dmesg | grep -i dvd is: [17179574.336000] hdc: MATSHITAUJ-840D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179574.336000] hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kb Cache, UDMA(33) So is my machine "looking" in the wrong place or does -> hdc include drive hda?? John > > Can you please do the following and mail the results back > to the list? > > ls -la /dev/dvd > > dmesg | grep -i dvd > > > If you inspect the output from that second command, it > should (but may not) have a device name such as "hdd" or > "sdb" or simmilar. EG, mine looks like: > > dmesg | grep -i dvd > [17179573.948000] hdd: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108, ATAPI > CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179574.096000] hdd: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM > DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2000kB Cache, UDMA(66) > > > So my DVD drive is on hdd. If you have similar output and > can see which device ID it has been given, please do the > following as well. replace 'hdd' with the device name of > your dvd drive. > > ls -la /dev/hdd > > >>> Gui MSG Totem cannot playback maybe you do not have > the >>> required permissions. > >>> Gui MSG Totem cannot play maybe you need libdvdcss2 or > >>> download extra plugins > >>> > >>> Terminal part msg after doing "totem dvd://" : > >>> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda4 for reading > >>> libdvdread: Device /dev/hda4 inaccessible, CSS > >>> authentication not available. > >>> libdvdread: Can't read name block Probably not a dvd > rom >>> device > >>> libdvdread: Unable to find map file > '/home/john/.dvdnav/ >>> map' >

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

My problem still exists I Have spent quite a bit of time googling and reading forums and have come across a few examplse of the same problem. No real answers have emerged except to install libdvdcss2 and libreaddvd both of which I have done many times now. The device works and will read most media including mpegs but stalls on dvd for some reason. I wonder if there is a totem setting that I should have done or some simple script that I have failed to issue Any ideas would be most welcome. Regards John > I just ran totem --debug > > I am struggling with try to get dvd playback. > > Gui MSG Totem cannot playback maybe you do not have the > > required permissions. > > Gui MSG Totem cannot play maybe you need libdvdcss2 or > > download extra plugins > > > > Terminal part msg after doing "totem dvd://" : > > libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda4 for reading > > libdvdread: Device /dev/hda4 inaccessible, CSS > > authentication not available. > > libdvdread: Can't read name block Probably not a dvd rom > > device > > libdvdread: Unable to find map file '/home/john/.dvdnav/ > > map'

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Re: [wlug] Wine
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 05 Aug '06

05 Aug '06

Hello again, Resolved. A member just wrote to me off list to explain that I had issued the wrong command.... The correct command for those who did not know is: winecfg :-) Regards John. > When I run <wine config> I get Error msg: > Wine: could not load C:\\windows\\system32\\config.exe > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with > this?

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wine
by Leslie Katz 05 Aug '06

05 Aug '06

John, I know little of these things at the best of times and it's been a while since I tried Wine (it didn't work with the Windows program I wanted to run). All that said, I seem to remember that there was a Linux program called winecfg that came with Wine. The command you mentioned is one to the Linux program Wine to run the Windows program config.exe and, since you have no such Windows program, you're getting the error message. Can this be right? I suppose it won't hurt to try, if you haven't already solved the problem. Leslie

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Wine
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 04 Aug '06

04 Aug '06

Hi All, When I run <wine config> I get Error msg: Wine: could not load C:\\windows\\system32\\config.exe Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with this? Regards John

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SFD event planning
by Craig Box 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi everyone, As you will have heard, WLUG are going to hold a public demonstration on Software Freedom Day, which is Sep 16 this year. I have created a wiki page for planning the event: http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2006-09-16/Planning. If you're interested in helping out, whether on the day or before hand, please check the page out - you can sign your name on http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2006-09-16 also. I think it is important we decide on what we want to achieve, as well as deciding how we will do it and apportioning tasks. I've put a draft of our goal and what we want to get out of it, which are, along with everything else, open for editing. I don't want to bore this list with all the back and forth about planning, so we will try and do most of it on the wiki or perhaps on the new forums, to give them a little bit of a kick. If anyone has any suggestions, please sign them on that page. Craig

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Re: [wlug] DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

I just ran totem --debug First line: load_plugins: skipping unreadable plugin directory /home/john/.xine/plugins After all the .so plugins loaded. init class succeeded then gnome_vfs init input_class params.c:OpenConfFile() - unable to open configation file "/home/john/.smb/smb.conf": No such file or directory (repeated) Video_out_xv; Xv extention is present but I could not find a usable yuv12 port. Looks like your graphics driver does not support Xv?! Last line: **message: couldn't initialise lirc. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > I am struggling with try to get dvd playback. > I have Installed Totem-xine and all the plugins ( > including libdvdcss2) and addons that I know about and > still cannot get any playback on my Acer 500x laptop > Gui MSG Totem cannot playback maybe you do not have the > required permissions. > Gui MSG Totem cannot play maybe you need libdvdcss2 or > download extra plugins > > Terminal part msg after doing "totem dvd://" : > libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda4 for reading > libdvdread: Device /dev/hda4 inaccessible, CSS > authentication not available. > libdvdread: Can't read name block Probably not a dvd rom > device > libdvdread: Unable to find map file '/home/john/.dvdnav/ > map' > > Anyone know what to do for a fix please? > Regards John > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Fwd: Re: IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Sorry folks I forgot the "reply all" thing John ----- Message Forwarded on Wed 2/8/2006 ----- From: "" <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> To: Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz>,Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [wlug] IP address entry Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:21:35 +1200 Thank everyone Success! I started at the command line with the ip address but then I needed the subnet mask and the gateway so I took Ian's advise and used the gui. The plus is that I can switch back to DCHP really easily. Regards John > There are simpler ways to do this on Ubuntu. I can't > remember the exact menu location but on my Debian (which > is similar) it is Places, Administration, Networking and > you can do it all using the GUI with a minimum of fuss. > > -- > Ian McDonald > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 > Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com > WAND Network Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Waikato > New Zealand

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DVD woes!!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi All, I am struggling with try to get dvd playback. I have Installed Totem-xine and all the plugins ( including libdvdcss2) and addons that I know about and still cannot get any playback on my Acer 500x laptop Gui MSG Totem cannot playback maybe you do not have the required permissions. Gui MSG Totem cannot play maybe you need libdvdcss2 or download extra plugins Terminal part msg after doing "totem dvd://" : libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda4 for reading libdvdread: Device /dev/hda4 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available. libdvdread: Can't read name block Probably not a dvd rom device libdvdread: Unable to find map file '/home/john/.dvdnav/ map' Anyone know what to do for a fix please? Regards John

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best price perfomance for broadband
by stephen pearce 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi We are trying to decide which broadband service to go for ..having had dial up internet at home for sometime .. we want a pretty low end version initially .. has anyone in the list any suggestions about best price performance .. the plans they all seem to offer seem extremely complex and it is difficult ot make a valid comparison Thanks -- Stephen Pearce Critical Care Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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Re: [wlug] device order
by Daniel Lawson 01 Aug '06

01 Aug '06

(brought back onlist) > Another example, USB again... > From http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7316 > >> A lot of devices are very difficult to distinguish from another, e.g. >> EPSON has the same USB ID's for a lot of printer models and you need to >> query the printer information with a vendor specific protocol >> > > Has the situation changed? Isnt the 'serial no.' you mention the same as the > USB ID discussed above? > Ok, so it doesn't work for all USB devices. Mice are probably the same. Anything with a filesystem or a unique serial, or MAC address, etc, however is fine. So, ok, multiple identical printers are probably a problem. At this point you might have to resort to "get different printers", or "leave them plugged into the same USB port, perhaps on an external HUB", or "buy an external print server that does ethernet -> USB. In terms of sound cards[1], you could use the PCI ID to define the order in which sound cards are brought up. This doesn't change - or it shouldn't change, unless you have faulty/crazy hardware - unless you shift the physical slot the device is plugged into. [1] or anything, even including USB devices as long as you are prepared to put them on the same port every time. Use the USB *bus* ID in that case, not the PCI ID, obviously :)

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Jul '06

31 Jul '06

The WLUG Mailing List is the discussion-list extension of the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated). As such, we expect members of this list to adhere to the principles espoused in the official WLUG Charter[1], in particular, Rule 6, which covers the activities on this mailing list. While this is an Acceptable Use Policy, the WLUG Committee do recognise the need for informal discussion among list members, and draconian administration is not the goal here. Please keep in mind, however, that your comments to this list do represent the WLUG, and while it is good to be seen as an organisation with a sense of humour, some comments may do major harm to our credibility as a serious advocate of GNU/Linux and all things Free Software/ Open Source related. List discussion should * be honest * accentuate the positive, without hyperbole or blatant misrepresentation * maintain a reasonable level of spelling and grammar * not indulge in ad hominem attacks * not continue inflammatory or abusive threads * not be unprofessional or petty, especially with respect to the names of other software companies * not promote or denigrate political, cultural, or religious views * not indulge in marketing or advertising, other than on a private sale basis, or advertising of jobs - which may be announced once only * not reproduce copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder * not defame any person or organisation Posters who consistently violate these guidelines will be dealt with at the discretion of the List Maintainer. If you feel you have been unfairly dealt with, you have recourse to any member of the WLUG Committee[2]. Certain mailing list etiquette should also be maintained: * please use only plain text (not HTML) * reply inline or below when quoting, rather than on top * trim quotes (don't reply quoting a 10 page message with a single line of reply) If you have any questions, start reading at http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html. These points have been established over a long time on this list. If you want to question them, please do it off list. As list users, use your discretion when pulling people up over etiquette - please reply off list, and if there is a serious breach, the list administrator will probably have dealt with it off-list already. [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter [2] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCommittee

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 31 Jul '06

31 Jul '06

Thank everyone Success! I started at the command line with the ip address but then I needed the subnet mask and the gateway so I took Ian's advise and used the gui. The plus is that I can switch back to DCHP really easily. Regards John > There are simpler ways to do this on Ubuntu. I can't > remember the exact menu location but on my Debian (which > is similar) it is Places, Administration, Networking and > you can do it all using the GUI with a minimum of fuss. > > -- > Ian McDonald > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 > Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com > WAND Network Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Waikato > New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

I just googled and found: ifconfig eth0 <number provided> Is it as simple as just doing this?? If yes! do I need to undo this when I am finished?? John. > Hello all, > I am trying to update my system and went to an > internet cafe to use their network. However, they told me > I need to add their ip address (Which they gave to me on a > written note) I have never had to do this before and have > no idea how to do it in Ubuntu. > Will some one please help with this? > Regards John > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

I forgot to hit the reply all button.. Sorry:( ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Sorry, missed that bit... > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I need to: sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I need to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 Does this seem right to you?? John

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

Thank you I will try again tommorrow afternoon :) Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > No. Leave the loopback interface alone. > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > >> Sorry, missed that bit...> > > > > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I > > need to: > > sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> > sudo ifconfig eth0 ... > > not ethconfig > > > > Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I > > need to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 > > Does this seem right to you?? > > John > > -- > Don Gould > www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - > www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: > ThinkDesignPrint > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by Don Gould 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

No. Leave the loopback interface alone. jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > ----- Original Message Follows ----- >> Sorry, missed that bit...> > > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I need > to: > sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> sudo ifconfig eth0 ... not ethconfig > Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I need > to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 > Does this seem right to you?? > John -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: ThinkDesignPrint

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Web-based forums are here!
by Matthias Dallmeier 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group now has forums... http://forums.wlug.org.nz/ Everyone is welcome to register and start posting. Enjoy! -- Matthias

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IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

Hello all, I am trying to update my system and went to an internet cafe to use their network. However, they told me I need to add their ip address (Which they gave to me on a written note) I have never had to do this before and have no idea how to do it in Ubuntu. Will some one please help with this? Regards John

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Fixit wish list
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

Hello all, I am back in the country breifly and intend taking my machine to the "fixit" meeting on Saturday with the hope of gaining more a more functional machine. The purpose of this email is to give some prior warning to anyone who may be going to help Acer 500x inspire laptop amd64 I have made some attempts to get help on irc but every time I get someone who seems to knowledge the sever reset or some other drama occured. Broadcom bcm43xx air force one Wlan SiS grapics VCL and Totem-xine dvd players Wish list: 1 Get the wlan up and operational.. Have tried a couple of things and am now stuck after blacklisting the bcm and not being able to reverse the command. 2 Would like some sort of graphics accelleration, the Sis card is not very linux freindly 3 Able to play dvd's I have done a number of installs plus added plugins but still no dvd playback Totem reports that I may not have "libreaddvdcss2" I did add this but unsure of if it is working as the update is highly experimental. 4 Some sort of emulator so that I can play around with some MS programs. If you feel you can help I would really appreciatte it. I am available off list if you like. Regards John

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django
by Ian McDonald 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Carrying on with my theme of sending out lots of nice technologies to the list you might be interested in this post here at NewsForge which talks about Django: http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/25/1512209&from=rss In theory this looks like a really cool web building tool for advanced content (you know that Web 2.0 stuff everybody keeps saying which basically means cool web sites). -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Live migration on Xen/ATA over Ethernet
by Ian McDonald 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Folks, Here is an article on this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/17/1916214 It also talks a bit about ATA over Ethernet (AoE) which is a "cheap" way of doing SANs - cheap being a relative term. I myself would rather use iSCSI as it runs over IP (and therefore doesn't have to be on same segment). But AoE is still interesting as well. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Red Hat Open Source Symposium 2006
by Craig Box 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Caroline Ocego from IDG writes... Experience the Power of Open Source Architecture There are still complimentary places available for the Auckland Open Source Architecture conference to be held at Sky City on Thursday 31st August 2006. To see the agenda for this event please go to the following website address - http://www.opensourcesymposium.org/al/program.html To register please got to the following website address - http://www.opensourcesymposium.org/register/register_au.php Kind regards Caroline (The first 50 places are free - I'm not sure why they expect people to pay, but they obviously haven't hit 50 attendees yet!) Craig

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our July guest is Roger de Salis, a director of http://www.wlug.org.nz/FxNetworks. FX Networks are a http://www.wlug.org.nz/Wellington company with significant http://www.wlug.org.nz/Unix and http://www.wlug.org.nz/Cisco Networking experience. The principals of FX have over 50 years experience in the IT and Telecommunications industry, the bulk of which is about continuously available on-line systems for public use. They specialise in bringing interesting technical ideas to market. FX believe you should be able to get connectivity far greater than what is currently available in New Zealand, and have made great investment in a fibre network around New Zealand. They're also pioneers in the use of http://www.wlug.org.nz/VoIP. If you're interested in the InterNet or telephone calls, this is a meeting not to be missed!

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BIOS failure?
by Chris O'Halloran 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hello, On wednesday night, I was happily using my computer and playing around with some wengophone software. At the end of the evening I shut my machine down. On Thurday lunch time, I went home for lunch and thought I'd fire up my machine to play with the wengophone software somemore. The Nvidia BIOS flashed on the screen and then nothing further came up on screen. I waited a while and still nothing more. I held in the Power button until the machine switched off and restarted it again. Same result except I noticed the harddrive light was fluttering away. So I switched it off and tried booting a knoppix CD. No result. So I disconnected the power supply to the second harddrive thinking maybe there was some argument between the harddrive and tried starting again. The first harddrive contains the master boot record. This time, still get the Nvidia BIOS notice but still doesn't boot but this time no harddrive light persistently fluttering. So, I am running out of options. Bascially, the computer doesn't seem to get to the BIOS screen but I am not sure what I can do about that. I had moved the computer or changed any of the power requirements. Is the motherboard stuffed? Is the BIOS stuffed? Any thoughts or recommendations etc. Chris

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Upcoming Fixit meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

The WLUG Fixit Meeting is 1 week away. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Saturday after our Monday meeting BruceKingsbury will be holding a 'Saturday Workshop' where you can bring your machine along and we'll try to resolve any problems you might have. <pre> Date: July 29 Time: 11am - 4pm Location: 23 Oxford St (http://zoomin.co.nz/hamilton/hamilton/oxford+street/23) </pre> Facilities available; 256k internet (cat5 or wifi), phone line, Broadcast TV for myth, ISO's of ubuntu and kubuntu, spare power leads, tables, BBQ

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FW: Openswan and Cisco PIX
by Craig Box 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Here's a question I've received, relating to a wiki page, that I can't answer. Anyone got any ideas? Craig _____ From: Jason Romo [ <mailto:jromo(a)networkguardian.net]> mailto:jromo(a)networkguardian.net] Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:43 p.m. To: Craig Box Subject: Openswan and Cisco PIX I used your online document and I have a tunnel between the openswan 2.4.5 (using netkey with 2.6.16 kernel) and a Cisco PIX 501. I see the link is up on both sides. I ping the cisco's internal IP and I see the ICMP via debug icmp trace, but I don't get a resonse. I am not sure what is wrong. I think it is on the cisco side. It doesn't seem to allow traffic to the internal network. Any ideas where to start. _____ From: Craig Box Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:49:57 +1200 To: 'Jason Romo' <jromo(a)networkguardian.net> Subject: RE: Openswan and Cisco PIX Hi Jason, Haven't done anything with either a Swan or a Cisco for a long time sorry. Seen http://www.wlug.org.nz/FreeSwanToCiscoPix#footnote-3 ? Does this apply to you? Regards Craig _____ From: Jason Romo [mailto:jromo(a)networkguardian.net] Sent: Thursday, 20 July 2006 9:12 a.m. To: Craig Box Subject: Re: Openswan and Cisco PIX I copied the config to another machine and it works fine to the same cisco box on the remote end. I wonder if the upstream cisco route is filtering or something. But they can access anything on our network and we respond. But I can't initiate the traffic. I have checked that the firewall rules are good, routes, even kernel modules. I can't find a problem. They look the same. The system is the system it is an image of the exact box. Any ideas? Thanks for your help, Jason Romo

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our July guest is Roger de Salis, a director of http://www.wlug.org.nz/FxNetworks. FX Networks are a http://www.wlug.org.nz/Wellington company with significant http://www.wlug.org.nz/Unix and http://www.wlug.org.nz/Cisco Networking experience. The principals of FX have over 50 years experience in the IT and Telecommunications industry, the bulk of which is about continuously available on-line systems for public use. They specialise in bringing interesting technical ideas to market. FX believe you should be able to get connectivity far greater than what is currently available in New Zealand, and have made great investment in a fibre network around New Zealand. They're also pioneers in the use of http://www.wlug.org.nz/VoIP. If you're interested in the InterNet or telephone calls, this is a meeting not to be missed!

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Meeting minutes & discussion topics
by Craig Box 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

The minutes of our committee meeting are now up at http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2006-07-20 (when the meetings are at my house, I can take them live to the internet a lot easier!) We regret to announce the resignation of Gian Perrone from the WLUG committee, effective immediately. A replacement member will not be sought as we are due to have an AGM in a couple of months. A couple of questions for our community.. - Are you interested in helping out on our advocacy display on September 16? We expect to have a stand with PCs, demos and giveaways running at Centreplace. If you are available, or want to help organise the event, please add your name to http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2006-09-16. - If WLUG held Linux training, would you be interested in attending? What would you want to learn? Would you, or your employer, pay, especially if there was the possibility of gaining a certification at the end of it? We also think that Hamilton needs a Thursday Night Curry, and if you bug us enough, we might just book a Thursday for it! Craig

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Audio sub-systems on Linux
by Ian McDonald 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

I notice that Craig discusses these a bit on his latest blog at: http://craig.dubculture.co.nz/blog/2006/07/20/audio-on-ubuntu/ Craig - can you (or anyone else?) explain to me how Jack fits into all of this? Jack is mentioned at: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/docs/faq.php http://jackaudio.org/ I've seen quite a bit of mention of Jack around the place (as well as GStreamer) and haven't noticed PulseAudio much at all. It seems clear that OSS is going away and what Craig says about ESD makes sense as well... Now Alsa is at the kernel level for devices and doesn't seem to face any real competition. How do the other bits fit togther though? Ian (trying to stimulate some discussion - I could read this all up myself but it'd be boring..) -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Building a WPA2 access point
by Ian McDonald 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Interesting article here at linux.com: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/10/1729226 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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SCO OpenServer 5
by zcat 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

If anyone has the install disk(s) for SCO OpenServer, I would be very interested in getting hold of them. I'm trying to migrate someone from a legacy system to Linux and it would be very handy (almost essential!) to set up a mirror of their current server to work with.

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router disconnecting
by Haldor Riddering 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Hi people, okay I had a big crash and lost loads of data in windows plus system got trashed so decided to give ubuntu dapper a go on my laptop. no worries after much hacking away got everything working how I want it. now however there is a problem. I have a dlink dsl-302g modem. now whenever I run the laptop after a few minutes the router disconnects then reconnects and this happens again and again whenever the laptop is on. it doesn't happen with my windows machines and if I turn the laptop off the connection is constant for 24+ hours. I emailed the slingshot help desk and they say it's a line fault and it's going to cost $88 to have it looked at. but it only happens when the laptop is on the network. any ideas about whats happening here? I'm very happy with ubuntu, just frustrated with the disconnects. I have tried a second dsl-302g so it's not the router and the internal network works flawlessly just the internet connection is screwy. Cheers Haldor

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Warren Hughes (IBM) is travelling.
by Warren Hughes 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

I will be out of the office starting 19/07/2006 and will not return until 24/07/2006. Hi, thanks for your email. I'm out of the office until Monday 24/7. I will be checking my voicemail and email. Cheers, Warren

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Local Linux training
by Eric Light 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Hi all, My name is Eric, I've been following this list for about two years now but haven't had occasion to actually make a post until now... I've been looking for a training institute which offers a course towards the CompTIA Linux+ certificate. I was offered a scholarship in Auckland for such a course, but I'm really looking for somewhere in Hamilton. My experience with Linux is minimal - I've installed a few older versions of Mandrake in the past, and more recently got most of a server going with Ubuntu. But I still honestly don't really know what I'm doing, and most of the time I rely on programs which feature a GUI. I'd like to get away from that. I've called Hamilton Business School (http://www.hbsc.co.nz/index.asp?PageID=2145824273) who seem to be the only ones in Hamilton offering the course, but their Linux tutor has recently left the company and so they're not offering the course at the moment. Does anyone know of a Hamilton training provider where I could do something along the lines of a 20-week course via Student Loan? Thanks in advance, - Eric Light

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Squid content admin tool
by Ian McDonald 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

Folks, I'm just being lazy here and not looking it up myself. Can anyone tell me a good squid admin tool that allows to alter whitelisted and blacklisted URLs by user/group? I can just alter the config files I know but it'd be nice to have a web front end to it. Would be cool if it has reporting too but that's not a major. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Xen news
by Ian McDonald 17 Jul '06

17 Jul '06

>From http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15210 Lots of news on Xen. Firstly, "This is a document about how to set up XEN and iSCSI on 3 Debian Stable machines so that you can have a virtual host that can be migrated live between 2 of the machines. The third machine will be the common disk for the virtual machine that is seen via the 2 machines running XEN." Secondly, "IBM and Novell are throwing their considerable weight behind Xen, but some experts are suggesting that these companies may be pushing this nascent technology too far too fast." Lastly, "You can now run OpenSolaris domains under Xen as dom0 with OpenSolaris domUs too." To get to the stories mentioned here go to the osnews URL. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our July guest is Roger de Salis, a director of http://www.wlug.org.nz/FxNetworks. FX Networks are a http://www.wlug.org.nz/Wellington company with significant http://www.wlug.org.nz/Unix and http://www.wlug.org.nz/Cisco Networking experience. The principals of FX have over 50 years experience in the IT and Telecommunications industry, the bulk of which is about continuously available on-line systems for public use. They specialise in bringing interesting technical ideas to market. FX believe you should be able to get connectivity far greater than what is currently available in New Zealand, and have made great investment in a fibre network around New Zealand. They're also pioneers in the use of http://www.wlug.org.nz/VoIP. If you're interested in the InterNet or telephone calls, this is a meeting not to be missed!

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Re: [wlug] hosts file
by David Bowen 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

David wrote Hi After playing with my networking settings in Breezy, I seem to have lost some data from my /etc/hosts file. Partly it requires editing to add to add "ubuntuDavid" to it. However without it I can't log in as root to edit it. Can't find password! I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way to edit it or is it a reinstall job. As it is I can't connect to the net or anything requiring root privilege. Thanks David Bowen > Shane wrote: > > Hi Dave, > The file probably needs permissions changed for it to be edited under knoppix > chmod a+w /mount/drive/etc/hosts > > If this still doesnt work, its time to boot to single user mode <g> > This should give you some direction > from > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-res… > > Select Ubuntu with the version of the kernel that you wish to boot and type e > for edit. You will be presented with a list of items in the configuration > file for the title you just selected. > > Select the line that starts with kernel and type e to edit the line. > > Go to the end of the line and type single as a separate word (press the > [Spacebar] and then type single). Press [Enter] to exit edit mode. > > Back at the GRUB screen, type b to boot into single user mode. > > Then edit your file > > Regards > Shane > > *Thanks Shane. Changing the permissions worked. Thinking about it My command was probably trying to execute the file rather than open it and root did not have permission to execute it. I will look at the book I have at work to look into that next week. Then I can change the permission back again! I have to admit I tend to use command line only when necessary, but I am starting to get the hang of it Thanks all for the help. * > > >> >> > Here's a possibility: > > root doesn't have a password set at all under ubuntu. Instead, log in as > your user and run 'sudo nano /etc/hosts', and enter *your* password > in. This assumes that your account is the first one that was created > when you installed the machine. > > If this doesn't work, it possibly means that more than the hosts file > has become corrupted. Consider upgrading to dapper at about this point. > *Nope that didn't work either Fortunately the message at boot pointed to /etc/hosts and I just basically copied it from my dapper install and it all worked.* >> I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way >> to edit it or is it a reinstall job. >> >> > > With knoppix you'd still need to run a root terminal, instead of just > the normal one. > > *Yup I had tried that* > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:49:27 +1200 > From: zcat <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] hosts file > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <44B970F7.4020706(a)wired.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > >> With knoppix you'd still need to run a root terminal, instead of just >> the normal one. >> >> > You also need to mount the filesystem read-write, knoppix defaults to > mounting things read-only. > > The GUI way; right-click the icon for your filesystem, unmount if it's > already mounted, then chose the option for mounting read-write. > > The root-terminal way; mount /mnt/hda1 -o remount,rw > (I forget exactly where knoppix mounts things and /mnt/hda1 is a > guess... substitute the actual mountpoint here) > > And as Daniel says, you'll need to edit the file as root too. > > *Yup I had done that, It was HDA3 as it is dual bootede with that other OS* > > ------------------------------ > > >

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Command line help for new users
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

Hello all, I stumbled across this excellent resource for new users while searching for the answer to another problem. It is possible that we have this info in our Wiki but I did not find it yet. The thread is nine pages long and has a couple of other good links within it if anyone wishes to take the time to study it. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 Please add more links that may be appropriatte. Regards John

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hosts file
by David Bowen 15 Jul '06

15 Jul '06

Hi After playing with my networking settings in Breezy, I seem to have lost some data from my /etc/hosts file. Partly it requires editing to add to add "ubuntuDavid" to it. However without it I can't log in as root to edit it. Can't find password! I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way to edit it or is it a reinstall job. As it is I can't connect to the net or anything requiring root privilege. Thanks David Bowen

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WLUG Committee Meeting Scheduled for this date or near offer. To have something added to the agenda for this meeting, please email secretary @ wlug.org.nz. Provisional agenda: # Minutes from previous meeting # Matters arising # Correspondence # Treasurers report # General business ----- CommitteeMeetingTopics

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Skype working better for Linux
by Ian McDonald 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

Folks, I'm meant to be making a Skype call at 5 am tomorrow (yeah!!) to talk about Linux but I have had bad experiences with Skype previously with sound working (or more to the point not!) and preferred not to use Windows in case I need to look something up that I'm talking about. Anyway I've now found that Skype for Linux has a new beta out which now uses ALSA by default as the sound system instead of OSS. What this means is that sound seems to "just work" now for me. If you have had problems with Skype have a look at: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html or: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/changelog.html Still no webcam support yet but this is a big step forward for me at least. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re Intel Modem on Dapper
by David Bowen 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Hi Matt wrote At this point the hamregistry and the driver itself have been installed successfully (as per the previous two messages), what you don't have is the boot scripts. It's a fairly simply matter to install these manually: run the following commands as root: # install -o root -g root -m 755 Intel536_boot /etc/init.d/Intel536 # ln -s ../init.d/Intel536 /etc/rcS.d/S16Intel536 Shouldn't I be able to find 536ep0 in /dev if the drivers are installed? Nothing there! Bnonn. I ran your script but it just looked for repositories, Not found of course as we have no Internet connection. Have not been able to network Breezy with Dapper or SUSE 10.1 yet. Can ping them both ways but cant get Internet connection through them to patch Yast yet. Regards David

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Ubuntu commercial repository
by Ian McDonald 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Now you can install Opera, Real Player easily if you wish: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-re… You can debate the merits of whether having closed source software in Linux is a good thing or an evil thing but this is available anyway... -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] Another step on the way to corporate use of Linux
by Kitto, Adrian - Axon AKL 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

-----Original Message----- Lotus Notes is now running on Linux: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060710-7222.html -- Ian McDonald Hi, This is a little bit of a thread hi-jack but it is about corporate use of Linux so here goes..... I am an application packager by trade (MS environment) and the latest version of Wise Package Studio (http://www.wise.com/Products/Packaging/Overview.aspx) supports creation and editing of RPM files. The beauty of this tool is how simple it is to create and deploy consistent applications to large enterprises (we package the application to work consistently on 2k/xp/vista/citrix). I know it is doing nothing that couldn't already be done via a command line packaging tool but a lot of companies have already invested massive amounts of money in Wise infrastructure with delegated rights, deployment systems and reporting and would love to be able to apply those processes to their Linux systems. So now with Wise and Notes I can build 2 (MS/RPM) packages following the same configuration and testing steps and have every user running the same application and configuration while my manager can manager the teams workflows and productivity via the reporting functions. I know most of you will not see it this way, but this is a massive leap forward for Linux in the Standard Operating Environments that I help design and deploy. Cheers Adrian -- The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL and may be exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you read this message and are not the addressee you are notified that use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. You should scan this message and any attached files for viruses. Axon accepts no liability for any loss caused either directly or indirectly by a virus arising from the use of this message or any attached file.

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Another step on the way to corporate use of Linux
by Ian McDonald 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Lotus Notes is now running on Linux: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060710-7222.html IBM have a stated goal to run much of their business on Linux and since they own Lotus they will have converted this as they probably use heavily. This will potentially help Linux uptake in places like accounting firms and governments which use Notes quite heavily. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Intel-536 modem on Dapper
by David Bowen 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

Hi Anyone tried to install a 536 modem on Dapper yet? Works fine on Breezy but have not got it going on Dapper (or SUSE 10.1) yet This is the script of the terminal (Dapper) david(a)david-desktop:~/Desktop/Intel-536$ make clean cd coredrv; make clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv' rm -f *.ko *.o *~ core make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv' rm -f *.o *.ko david(a)david-desktop:~/Desktop/Intel-536$ make 536ep make: *** No rule to make target `536ep'. Stop. david(a)david-desktop:~/Desktop/Intel-536$ make 536 Module precompile check Current running kernel is: 2.6.15-23-386 /lib/modules... autoconf.h exists diff: /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h: No such file or directory autoconf.h matches running kernel diff: /boot/vmlinuz.version.h: No such file or directory version.h matches running kernel uname -r|grep "2.6" && \ cd coredrv && make 536core_26 && \ cp Intel536.ko .. && cd .. && \ strip --strip-debug Intel536.ko && \ exit; \ ls Intel536.ko >/dev/null 2>&1 || uname -r | grep "2.6" && echo "Failed to build driver" && exit; \ if [ ]; then \ cd coredrv; make TARGET=TARGET_SELAH KERNEL_SOURCE_PATH= "PSTN_DEF=-DTARGET_SELAH -DTARGET_LINUX -DLINUX" 536core; \ else \ cd coredrv; make TARGET=TARGET_SELAH KERNEL_INCLUDES=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include \ "PSTN_DEF=-DTARGET_SELAH -DTARGET_LINUX -DLINUX" 536core; \ fi ; \ cp Intel536.o .. ; \ if [ -a /boot/vmlinuz.version.h ]; then \ cp /boot/vmlinuz.version.h /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include/linux/version.h;\ fi 2.6.15-23-386 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv' make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386' CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.o /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:73: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘EXPORT_SYMBOL_NOVERS’ /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:73: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:73: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c: In function ‘close’: /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:439: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘pm_unregister’ /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c: In function ‘hamproc_write’: /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:684: warning: ignoring return value of ‘copy_from_user’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c: At top level: /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:880: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/coredrv.c:289: warning: ‘power_callback’ defined but not used CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/clmmain.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/rts.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/task.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/uart.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/wwh_dflt.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/locks.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/softserial_io.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/softserial_ioctl.o CC [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/softserial.o LD [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/Intel536.o Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST Warning: could not find /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/.536core.lib.cmd for /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/536core.lib CC /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/Intel536.mod.o LD [M] /home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv/Intel536.ko make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Desktop/Intel-536/coredrv' david(a)david-desktop:~/Desktop/Intel-536$ sudo make install Password: rm -f /etc/hamregistry.bin bash Intel536_inst running kernel 2.6.15-23-386 installing hamregistry, used for persistant storage installing Intel536 driver unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed make: *** [install] Error 1 david(a)david-desktop:~/Desktop/Intel-536$ Any suggestions what to do next? Thanks David

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Not a meeting Re: ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Ian McDonald 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

On 7/9/06, Meeting Reminder Bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> wrote: > The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > <?plugin RedirectTo page="MeetingTopics.2006-09-16" ?> > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > This is not a meeting for those that are wondering... -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <?plugin RedirectTo page="MeetingTopics.2006-09-16" ?>

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Firewalls on Ubuntu
by Ian McDonald 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

Carrying on the theme of my previous message here is an article about firewalls on Ubuntu and two choices. By default Ubuntu doesn't install a firewall because it doesn't listen on inbound ports by default but if you enable any listening services you will want a firewall: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/26/1556259 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Useful security tool
by Ian McDonald 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

Here is a way to allow access to your machine remotely to whatever IP you are on but not leave the machine wide open to ssh use: http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/05/how-to-safely-connect-from-anywhere-to-your… -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] Intel Modem
by David Bowen 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

From: "Ian McDonald" What source code package are you using? i.e. where are you getting those files you put in that directory Intel-536. These are the drivers from Intel's download site. The same ones I used on Breezy. That version number sounds like an Ubuntu kernel. Have you tried with a kernel from http://kernel.org and then using that? It is the default Ubuntu Dapper kernel. I gather compiling custom kernels is not for nube's like me. Maybe next install fest I will get a chance to come down and learn a few things, lots of questions to ask, From: Craig Box Tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ? Yes. It works fine for Breezy, nothing there for Dapper yet, can't get the driver to compile (Make). Well I plan on going ADSL in the not to distant future. But it would be nice to work through this problem, for learning purposes. Thanks David Bowen

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Replacing FreeS/WAN with a 2.6-kernel-friendly VPN server
by Craig Box 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

I currently have a Debian Woody machine acting as a head-end IPSEC server to three sites with Cisco 837 ADSL routers. Woody is no longer maintained and I would like to upgrade the machine, and get it onto a 2.6 kernel. The IPSEC driver used by FreeS/WAN on 2.4 is klips. FreeS/WAN is no longer maintained, and has forked into OpenSwan and StrongSwan. The 2.6 kernel has its own implementation of IPSEC, called NETKEY, and klips requires a patched kernel, which I would rather not have to maintain, as there is a good IPSEC implementation in the mainline. The standard 2.6 kernel IPSEC model, using the ipsec-tools, lets you do all sorts of things with policies. In the past, I've had an ipsec0 interface, which has been given IP addresses and been able to connect routes to, and hang firewall rules off. I believe NETKEY doesn't give that. The remote sites can be considered 'trusted' insomuch as machines on their LAN are currently routed such they may as well be on the local LAN, and so it wouldn't matter too much that I couldn't apply specific firewall rules. Can anyone advise me on the easiest way to do this? Should I continue using OpenSwan? Is there a good HOWTO for this, or will I be the guy that writes it? (Assume I know everything on http://www.wlug.org.nz/26sec :) Any suggestions? Michal, are you still around, and is this right in your area of expertise? :) Craig

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Interesting list of software for Ubuntu
by Ian McDonald 03 Jul '06

03 Jul '06

One guy chimes in here with the list of software he likes: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/26/essentials-2006 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Acceptable use of the WLUG Mailing List
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

The WLUG Mailing List is the discussion-list extension of the Waikato Linux Users Group (Incorporated). As such, we expect members of this list to adhere to the principles espoused in the official WLUG Charter[1], in particular, Rule 6, which covers the activities on this mailing list. While this is an Acceptable Use Policy, the WLUG Committee do recognise the need for informal discussion among list members, and draconian administration is not the goal here. Please keep in mind, however, that your comments to this list do represent the WLUG, and while it is good to be seen as an organisation with a sense of humour, some comments may do major harm to our credibility as a serious advocate of GNU/Linux and all things Free Software/ Open Source related. List discussion should * be honest * accentuate the positive, without hyperbole or blatant misrepresentation * maintain a reasonable level of spelling and grammar * not indulge in ad hominem attacks * not continue inflammatory or abusive threads * not be unprofessional or petty, especially with respect to the names of other software companies * not promote or denigrate political, cultural, or religious views * not indulge in marketing or advertising, other than on a private sale basis, or advertising of jobs - which may be announced once only * not reproduce copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder * not defame any person or organisation Posters who consistently violate these guidelines will be dealt with at the discretion of the List Maintainer. If you feel you have been unfairly dealt with, you have recourse to any member of the WLUG Committee[2]. Certain mailing list etiquette should also be maintained: * please use only plain text (not HTML) * reply inline or below when quoting, rather than on top * trim quotes (don't reply quoting a 10 page message with a single line of reply) If you have any questions, start reading at http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html. These points have been established over a long time on this list. If you want to question them, please do it off list. As list users, use your discretion when pulling people up over etiquette - please reply off list, and if there is a serious breach, the list administrator will probably have dealt with it off-list already. [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter [2] http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugCommittee

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Running ntpdate in ppp/ip-up.d
by Glenn Ramsey 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Hi, I am trying to get ntpdate to run when my dialup link comes up. This box is running Debian/stable. I have put a simple script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ntpdate : #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/ntpdate start All this script does is to run /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u -b -s $NTPSERVERS However the script hangs and ps indicates that it is sleeping ( S< ). It works fine if I run it manually (as root). Anyone know why it hangs? How do I make it work? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Linux Terminal Server
by Ian McDonald 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Interesting article/howto here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8822 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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VMWare Player install
by Joshua Goodwin 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hey guys, How do I install VMWare player for Linux? I have tried to manually install the software, downloading from wmware.com. I unzipped the .tar.gz, but what do I do next? I have tried to install it via Synaptic. This downloads the vmware-player-modules file, but it doesn't create the program. Any help would be great. Josh

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last nights url
by Shane 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Im after the URL for the animations shown last night, I *should* have written it down but.. no Anyone remember it off the top? TIA

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Telecom
by Shane 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Not sure if this is ontopic, but its fairly big news http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/03DD76D4D0A6165DCC25719A00109D4D

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Recommendations for a fax progam
by Ron Dean 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Can anybody recommend a fax program to send and receive faxes with dapper

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External modem getting Fax to work
by Ron Dean 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

I have an old fax modem 33k that I would like to set up as a fax. when I run the automatic dectection as a modem it detects the device as /dev/ttyS0 . However when I try it out as a fax it looks for /dev/modem which it does not find and looking in the dev directory it doesn't exist So I was wondering if I should create a file and put symbolic link between the files. But I don't really know how to do this

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Article on content management/blog software
by Ian McDonald 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

If you're interested in this have a look at: http://internet.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/02/185227&from=rss It's really an introductory article for those who don't know much about this area (like me!) -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our June presenter is AndrewThrift. AndrewThrift works for LAN1 as a Technical Consultant, and provides technical supporrt for the following products * Axis (http://www.axis.com/) * Barracuda * Fluke * Fortinet * Lightpointe * Nomadix * PowerDsine * Proxim He will be presenting their Axis product range of Linux-powered cameras.

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Software Freedom Day - Public advocacy event
by Craig Box 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

Hi everyone, We've had two successful installfests in the last two years, but this year, especially with the emergence of the Saturday Workshop, it seems have already got Linux installed for all the people we know that know about it. So now it's time to drum up some new interest! One of the things we have wanted to do for a while is a public advocacy event, to be held before the next installfest, so we can tell members of the public that Linux exists, it's not just a "different DOS", and that Free/Open Source Software is available for proprietary operating systems too. Software Freedom Day is an international celebration of FOSS. Now in its third year, SFD 2006 is on September 16th, and it seemed only natural to have our advocacy event on this day. What we envision is a public booth in a high foot traffic area (currently we're hoping to be able to get some space in Centreplace or Downtown Plaza). We can have three or four computers set up to show off some of the latest Linux eye candy, as well as FOSS software on Windows, and some free culture media (such as the recent Pearl Jam video clip that was made available under a Creative Commons license). We will be seeking sponsorship from businesses for giveaways and signage, so if you are interested in supporting the LUG, please get in touch with me. SFD itself is sponsored, so we should be able to receive CDs and t-shirts from them, but we will also need flyers, posters, and other giveaways. There are some advocacy guidelines on the SFD website [1] that are worth reading; the basic gist is that FOSS is not the right answer for every situation, and the positives can be accentuated without 'boring people with ideology' or pretending that FOSS is the only answer. We are looking at holding an installfest a week or two later, and our 2006 AGM soon after that (early October). What do we need from you now? - Mark the day in your calendar! - Let us know if you're interested in helping, by signing your name on http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2006-07-16 Help will be needed: - attracting sponsors - advertising the event & dealing with media - on the day We will need to get a good team behind us if we want to make this event a success. It will be the first opportunity we've really taken outside the Internet to attract new members. Any and all support is welcomed. Craig [1] http://softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our June presenter is AndrewThrift. AndrewThrift works for LAN1 as a Technical Consultant, and provides technical supporrt for the following products * Axis (http://www.axis.com/) * Barracuda * Fluke * Fortinet * Lightpointe * Nomadix * PowerDsine * Proxim He will be presenting their Axis product range of Linux-powered cameras.

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Fast Linux box
by Ian McDonald 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

1 Petaflop! http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/hardware/0,39042972,39369002,00.htm -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Samba
by Joshua Mark Goodwin 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

Howdy all. Some of my Samba worries are over. I found a command-line solution to my Samab worries. The CIFS command works well. By the way, does any know what Samba configuration file contains this line: "client signing = " Anyhoo, here's the CIFS info if anyone wants it: Techies Abode <http://www.techiesabode.com/forum/posts_w.php?forum_id=1> http://www.techiesabode.com/forum/posts_w.php?forum_id=1 Hohua

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Xen 3/Ubuntu 6.06 Howto
by Ian McDonald 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

For people that are interested have a look at: http://www.howtoforge.com/xen_3.0_ubuntu_dapper_drake It is also licensed under creative commons so could be pulled into our wiki if anyone wants to do it. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our June presenter is AndrewThrift. AndrewThrift works for LAN1 as a Technical Consultant, and provides technical supporrt for the following products * Axis (http://www.axis.com/) * Barracuda * Fluke * Fortinet * Lightpointe * Nomadix * PowerDsine * Proxim He will be presenting their Axis product range of Linux-powered cameras.

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Re: [wlug] Samba
by Matt Brown 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

(Copied back to list as I gather from your response that you intended it to go there) Joshua Mark Goodwin wrote: > Matt (and others), > > I was able to apt-get install build-install. Make is now a command; > however, it gives me the following error message when I type "make": > > make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. > > Makefile.am, makefile.dist, and makefile.in are all present. If I need > to specify a path, what is it? The package uses the standard GNU autotools for the build environment. This means that you need to run ./configure to generate the Makefile before you run make. The INSTALL file in the source distribution should have some other instructions about how the build system works. > By the way, smb4k is not in the Kubuntu repositories. At least not in > 6.06 (Dapper). Strange, I was under the impression that Kubuntu shared a repository with the "standard" Ubuntu stuff, it's definitely available for installation on my dapper laptop. Cheers -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 21 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz

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Planet NZTech
by Craig Box 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

Interested in reading the stories of people involved in the tech industry in NZ? You might not have heard of Planet NZTech, which can be found at http://stuff.rancidbacon.com/nztech/ A Planet is a weblog aggregator that brings together the writings of a group of people. While the topic ensures they have at least one common connection, posts can be on widely varied topics. There are a lot of Wellington Ruby on Rails and .NET programmer types, and a number of blogs from Planet WLUG (http://planet.wlug.org.nz/) have just been added, so there's a wide spectrum of participants, software and hardware, proprietary and Open Source, commercial and community. If you have a blog and you're interested in having it added to the Planet, e-mail follower(a)rancidbacon.com. Craig

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Samba
by Joshua Mark Goodwin 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

Hello all, I am using a Kubuntu computer (dual-boot) on a Windows LAN. I am able to the following: -Use Samba to access Windows shares using my domain name and password (I'm a Domain Admin). -Open Microsoft documents in Open Office (If I open Open Office first and then navigate my way to the share using the "Open" dialog box. -Have the machine show up in the Windows "Microsoft Windows Network" location in My Network Places. It shows up in its own workgroup, even though I listed the name of the domain in the "domain" line in the network preferences setup (KDE System Settings). This is what I would like to able to do; 1- When I click on the Microsoft document directly from the Konqueror window, Open Office displays it start up screen, but never opens. When I open the document from inside Open Office, it opens it, but says "Samba not fully supported. Only a local copy of the file will be created." And then it gives it some jibberish name - like kdefilepickerPX0BQa.doc" How do I get it to directly open the Microsoft document from the Konqueror window? How do I fix the Samba error? 2 - I would like to be able to RDP/VNC into the Linux box from Windows. I have a VNC viewer and a putty client. Both of these, as well as Windows "Remote Desktop Connection", all give me the "Connection refused" error. How do I fix this? 3 - I would like to share some folders on the Linux box to be accessible from Windows. I can see the Linux computer in the computer list, but when I click on it, it comes up with a login box. When I type my Linux user name and password (which is the same as my Windows variants), it does not accept the authentication. This never happened when I was running Ubuntu 5.04. The file system was just shared - I didn't set anything up or install any packages. Any help appreciated! Hohua

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Adwords cheque has arrived
by Craig Box 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

$185.33 to May 30, 2006. Craig

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How to create free VMWare Player images
by Ian McDonald 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

Really interesting article here: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/16/1940214&from=rss This talks about creating images using the free (as in beer) VMWare Player by basically hacking configuration files. I suspect VMWare may close down this loophole so use it while it lasts... NB I haven't tested this myself. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Synergy - remote control/KVM replacement
by Ian McDonald 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

Interesting article here: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/25/1439237 -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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