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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Due to this being a public holiday, and because our planned speaker for Sunday fell through, and because some members will be in Wellington for Simon Phipps presentation, the committee has decided to skip the January meeting.

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Fwd: Thursday Curry Night
by cmoman 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Thursday Curry Night Date: Thursday 22 January 2009 From: Peter Bryant <p.repliesignored(a)rimuhosting.com> To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Hi. Curry this afternoon anyone? On Thursday afternoon the RimuHosting guys normally gather at the office; drink a beer or two; talk about the latest goings on in the Linux universe; how rubbish all the current US tv programs (excepting BSG and FOTC) are; and do a tackle-by-pass analysis of the RimuHosting Rebooter's previous night's 5-a-side soccer performance. Since John is away at Linux conf we've voted to go do a curry instead. And since curries and Thursday's and technology seem to have a certain correlation (albiet one that appears to be 404 http://hamilton.thursdaynightcurry.com/) we're opening the invite to any geeks/IT folks who'd like to join us. Liz & Paul, Ivan Meridith, David Hallett, Carl Jones, Glenn Enright and I will be there at least. Hello India, 76 Alpha St, Cambridge. From 5PM. (From 4PM till they open at 5 we'd likely be next door at the Stables bar). We'll probably be there till 7PM for latecomers. Just this one night only: Thurs 22 Jan. Just show up. Or feel free to ping me via IM per http://rimuhosting.com/support/aboutrh.jsp Regards, Peter http://rimuhosting.com -------------------------------------------------------

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Simon Phipps in NZ
by Graham Lauder 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Simon Phipps, head of Open Source Projects at Sun is in NZ on the 25th and 26th of this month. He's speaking in Wellington 5 pm on Monday the 26th. Is there a possibility that an engagement could be organised at Waikato Uni for him. He is a brilliant speaker and has a wealth of knowledge and opinion on Open Source in general. I'd be prepared to do any donkey work required. Obviously it would have to be a morning session on the Monday or evening on sunday to allow him to get to Wellington. -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org OOoGear: For the Well dressed OOo Advocate http://ooogear.co.nz

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A meeting is scheduled for this date, but you haven't told us what you want it to be yet. If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start.

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LCA
by John Billings 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

I'm starting to pack my bag for http://linux.conf.au/ Wondering if anyone else from WLUG is going?

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El Reg: Sun MySQLers barred from Oz
by Bryce Utting 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/13/sqlers_barred_from_oz: > Several Sun MySQLers have been denied short stay business visas to > Australia - yes, Australia - as they attempted to attend a Linux > conference in Hobart, Tasmania. > > According to a blog post from Kaj Arno, vice president in charge of > "database community" at Sun Microsystems, several employees - many of > whom worked with MySQL - have been barred from entering Oz. Apparently, > the Australian government is worried they'll unfairly compete with local > businesses. #include stdjokeaboutinsufficientconvictions.h butting

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Radeon HD 3450 Graphics Card and a Acer 22" LCD Screen
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hello All Hey I have a Radeon HD 3450 Graphics Card and a Acer 22" LCD Screen. When I enable the Radeon restricted driver, the desktop area is now larger than my screen are abut most of it is not my background image but black screen. I wanted to enable the driver to run flightgear, but its just so damn ugly with big black bands of solid black that I can stand it no longer and disable the Radeon driver. When I do that I get my normal desktop back that does not scroll beyond the limits of the screen, but flightgear becomes completely unrunable due to it becoming agonisingly slow. Is there anything that i can do without having to replace this graphics card? Glenn Morrissey.

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fstab & Chown
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

When I log on linux, my /dev/sda1 drive is mounted, fdrom fstab: # /dev/sda1 UUID=b52f4246-04ea-4d35-b3b9-37a316709f81 /media/Data ext3 user,relatime,errors=continue-ro 0 2 but i can't access the drive until i mount it with: glenn(a)glenn-amd1: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/Data now I can see the 160 gig drives icon on my desktop, but if I move any documents to the drive, i get a 'you don't have permission' message. I then change the permission on the drive: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/media$ sudo chown -R glenn /media/Data glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/media$ ls -al total 16 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2009-01-09 20:29 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2008-12-31 11:13 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-12-31 11:02 cdrom -> cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-12-31 11:02 cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 3 glenn root 4096 2009-01-04 09:39 Data -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-01-09 20:29 .hal-mtab I have to do this every time that I log on to Ubuntu. There has go to be an easier way. Glenn Morrissey.

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chown
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hi there all, sorry for the dumb newbie question: I have created a directory in my /usr directory called 'scilab'. I would like to have read/write permission for that directory and for directories within. glenn(a)glenn-acer:/usr$ ls -al total 168 drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2009-01-06 22:35 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-12-19 16:14 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 36864 2009-01-03 00:27 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-12-19 16:09 games drwxr-xr-x 36 root root 4096 2008-12-22 01:03 include drwxr-xr-x 167 root root 69632 2009-01-03 00:27 lib drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-12-22 21:34 lib32 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2008-12-17 23:37 lib64 -> lib drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2008-07-02 21:47 local drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 2008-12-27 23:46 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-01-06 22:39 scilab <----------- drwxr-xr-x 317 root root 12288 2009-01-03 00:27 share drwxrwsr-x 6 root src 4096 2008-12-19 16:10 src drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-12-20 13:10 X11R6 glenn(a)glenn-acer:/usr$ Would I be right to assume that I needed the ownership of scilab to be glenn instead of root, i.e: drwxr-xr-x 2 glenn glenn 4096 2009-01-06 22:39 scilab how do I command Linux to change from root to me? Glenn

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Copyright (New Technologies) Amendment Act 2008 No 27 (as at 31 October 2008), Public Act
by Andrew Crosby 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

If you do not know about this law, you should have a quick read, then call you local mp and tell them what you think http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0027/latest/DLM1122643.html Kinda bothers me Andrew

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Updating Ubuntu without broadband
by Ian McDonald 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Seems like a potentially useful bit of software described here: http://www.osnews.com/story/20724/Keryx_Updating_GNU_Linux_Without_Broadband -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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fstab
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Hey there all This is a copy of my /etc/fstab file: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sdb5 UUID=4e473668-0492-4c4f-b96c-4a96aa93ac7d / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda1 UUID=b52f4246-04ea-4d35-b3b9-37a316709f81 /media/Data ext3 <------ user,relatime,errors=remount-rw 0 2 # /dev/sdb1 UUID=c6178b22-d682-4414-81ba-514c100ffe40 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ Athough the drive (dev/sda1)is listed in the file browser, when I click on it, it returns with this error: 'Invalid Mount Option when attempting to mount this volume'. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with my fstab table? Glenn.

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Mounting and FSTAB entries
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

Hi everyone I have a question about drives being mounted automatically when Ubuntu (or any Linux system) boots. I have a 160 Gb drive (/dev/sda1) that I have manually mounted in my /usr/local directory. What I am asking is what would be the correct syntax for writing an entry in the /etc/fstab file that allows /dev/sda1 to be mounted when the computer boots. glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~/Desktop$ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sdb5 UUID=4e473668-0492-4c4f-b96c-4a96aa93ac7d / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda1 UUID=b52f4246-04ea-4d35-b3b9-37a316709f81 /usr/local ext3 relatime 0 2 # /dev/sdb1 UUID=c6178b22-d682-4414-81ba-514c100ffe40 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 --------------------------------------------------------------------- I have manually mounted the drive: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~/Desktop$ mount /dev/sdb5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) /proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=755) securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/glenn/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=glenn) /dev/sda1 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw,relatime) /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~/Desktop$ Thank you. Glenn.

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Open source in 2008
by Ian McDonald 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Good article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090102-alook-back-at-the-open-source… I also share a reasonable amount of articles on Google Reader, rather than the list these days if anybody misses my postings... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Ethtool output
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Hi there everyone I eran ethtool on my amd machine and this is the output: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ sudo ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: d Current message level: 0x00000001 (1) Link detected: no glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ Since I have tried plugging the cable into another port on my switch, have tried changing ethernet cables, would it be correct to assume that the problem is faulty hardware? Glenn.

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Network Configuration
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

Hey all I have tried unplugging the network cable from the back of the machine and re-plugging it in, I have used a different port on my switch, which I have previously used and know it works well. Firts thing i did was ping 192.168.0.1 (my internet sharing machine), and was told that the network was unreachable. I have tried using a fixed ip address (192.168.0.5 and 255.255.255.0 subnet mask), still no joy. Network is unreachable. So, after this, I tried with the command sudo ethtool eth0, which returned with the output: glenn(a)glenn-amd1: [sudo] password for glenn: sudo:ethtool:command not found. glenn(a)glenn-amd1: This is the directory /etc/network glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ cd /etc glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc$ cd network glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ ls if-down.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d if-up.d interfaces glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ cat interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback I then tried removing the interfaces file, in the event that I could start over, but still no luck. when I run dhclient I get: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ sudo dhclient Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1 Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/pan0/92:93:61:a0:d3:80 Sending on LPF/pan0/92:93:61:a0:d3:80 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0d:87:35:aa:32 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:0d:87:35:aa:32 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 DHCPDISCOVER on pan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. glenn(a)glenn-amd1:/etc/network$ Maybe I just have a faulty network adaptor on the motherboard. But if that was the case, wouldn't it NOT be displayed with lspci? Glenn.

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Media Player
by Andrew Crosby 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Hi i am trying to make a headless media player; it would be nice if it could do the following: Play headless have an HTML/Web interface for making and loading play lists be able to rip cds automatically be able to stream music to other devices be able to serve general files (samba) be able to be used by non Linux users (flatties) Ideas? Cheers Andrew

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Network settings
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

Happy new year all I am trying to configure my network connection on my amd desktop machine, but it wont auto detect and there is no roaming mode (im running a newly installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid OS. I have the output from ifconfig: glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0d:87:35:aa:32 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:23 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:250 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:250 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:15684 (15.6 KB) TX bytes:15684 (15.6 KB) pan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 92:93:61:a0:d3:80 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) glenn(a)glenn-amd1:~$ I also have the correct output line from lspci output: 00Ethernet Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) Am I right in thinking the Hwaddr in eth0 should be something like 192.168.0.x? If so, can anyone tell me where the file is in the system so that I can edit it with the correct settings. Thank you Glenn.

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Linux innovations of 2008
by Ian McDonald 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=great_linux_innovations_… -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Interesting package manager
by Ian McDonald 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Haven't heard of Nix before and sounds interesting concept: http://www.linux.com/feature/155922 (See on OSNews). Sounds a little Gentoo like as it implies it downloads and compiles the packages.. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Sun Provides 64-bit Java Plug-In For Linux
by cmoman 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjkyOQ Might be of interest.

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Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations
by Bruce Kingsbury 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Oh dear. Any [CiscoNut]s want to comment on this? Linz? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brett Smith <brett(a)fsf.org> Date: 2008/12/12 Subject: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org ## Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, December 11, 2008 -- The Free Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that it has filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Cisco. The FSF's complaint alleges that in the course of distributing various products under the Linksys brand Cisco has violated the licenses of many programs on which the FSF holds copyright, including GCC, binutils, and the GNU C Library. In doing so, Cisco has denied its users their right to share and modify the software. Most of these programs are licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL), and the rest are under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). Both these licenses encourage everyone, including companies like Cisco, to modify the software as they see fit and then share it with others, under certain conditions. One of those conditions says that anyone who redistributes the software must also provide their recipients with the source code to that program. The FSF has documented many instances where Cisco has distributed licensed software but failed to provide its customers with the corresponding source code. "Our licenses are designed to ensure that everyone who uses the software can change it," said Richard Stallman, president and founder of the FSF. "In order to exercise that right, people need the source code, and that's why our licenses require distributors to provide it. We are enforcing our licenses to protect the rights that everyone should have with all software: to use it, share it, and modify it as they see fit." "We began working with Cisco in 2003 to help them establish a process for complying with our software licenses, and the initial changes were very promising," explained Brett Smith, licensing compliance engineer at the FSF. "Unfortunately, they never put in the effort that was necessary to finish the process, and now five years later we have still not seen a plan for compliance. As a result, we believe that legal action is the best way to restore the rights we grant to all users of our software." "Free software developers entrust their copyrights to the FSF so we can make sure that their work is always redistributed in ways that respect user freedom," said Peter Brown, executive director of the FSF. "In the fifteen years we've spent enforcing our licenses, we've never gone to court before. We have always managed to get the companies we have worked with to take their obligations seriously. But at the end of the day, we're also willing to take the legal action necessary to ensure users have the rights that our licenses guarantee." The complaint was filed this morning in United States District Court for the Southern District of New York by the Software Freedom Law Center, which is providing representation to the FSF in this case. The case is number 08-CV-10764 and will be heard by Judge Paul G. Gardephe. A copy of the complaint is available at <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/complaint-2008-12-11.pdf>. ### About the FSF The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software, and its Web sites, located at fsf.org and gnu.org, are an important source of information about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at <http://donate.fsf.org>. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. ### About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) The GNU General Public License (GPL) is a license for software. When a program is released under its terms, every user will have the freedom to share and change it, no matter how they get it. The GPL is the most popular free software license in the world, used by almost three quarters of all free software packages. The FSF recently updated the license to address new concerns in the free software community; version 3 of the GPL (GPLv3) was released on June 29, 2007. ### About the GNU Operating System and Linux Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' freedom. See <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html>. In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html>. ### Media Contacts Brett Smith Licensing Compliance Engineer Free Software Foundation +1 (617) 542 5942 x18 <brett(a)fsf.org> ### _______________________________________________ info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Calender software
by Glenn Ramsey 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Hi, Does anyone know of software that will allow you to make a calender using your own pictures that can be printed out? I have searched a bit but the results are swamped by schedule/meeting type calender software. I am aware of a command line app that generates calenders in postscript that I used a while back but I can't remember a) what it was called and b) whether it could add a picture. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Getting broadband to work with a friends computer and my wired network in Ubuntu *.04
by Ron Dean 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Relevant output from dmesg 32.983930] 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28 [ 32.984043] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:05.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 32.984614] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:30:bd:b8:85:44, IRQ 16 [ 32.984618] eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' [ 32.991975] 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004) 57.927380] eth0: link down 143.296908] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:bd:b8:85:44 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:16 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) TX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) Don't know if this information is any help it wasn't connected at the time if anyone is able to suggest commands to see if he has the appropriate hardware. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations
by GJB 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Linksys (CISCO) has a long history of conflicted emotions over OSS. Sveasoft and OpenWRT and others have provided work around firmwares for Linksys products. Interesting FSF should be doing it now after such a long period of abuse, I wonder why? > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit > Against Cisco For GPL Violations > From: "Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> > Date: Fri, December 12, 2008 11:12 am > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > We'll see what Cisco comes up with but I think all the embedded router > people have an issue that work in the home market e.g. DLink, Linksys (which > is what this is about), etc. I know that I had to battle DLink to get code > out of them and until I threatened them with the GPL they wouldn't give it > to me. The thing is that the embedded market stands to gain a lot and they > should use it, rather than ignore it e.g. Nokia is going places with the > Maemo platform at present as they involve people, and Android is showing > potential also. > > I think Linksys will release code quickly. The far bigger vendor which has > got far more to lose on a case like this is VMWare - it seems almost certain > that they are running a Linux kernel and have modified it, but claim they > use modules in a way that doesn't break the GPL... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Oh dear. Any [CiscoNut]s want to comment on this? Linz? > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Brett Smith <brett(a)fsf.org> > > Date: 2008/12/12 > > Subject: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For > > GPL Violations > > To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org > > > > > > ## Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations > > > > BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, December 11, 2008 -- The Free > > Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that it has filed a > > copyright infringement lawsuit against Cisco. The FSF's complaint > > alleges that in the course of distributing various products under the > > Linksys brand Cisco has violated the licenses of many programs on > > which the FSF holds copyright, including GCC, binutils, and the GNU C > > Library. In doing so, Cisco has denied its users their right to share > > and modify the software. > > > > Most of these programs are licensed under the GNU General Public > > License (GPL), and the rest are under the GNU Lesser General Public > > License (LGPL). Both these licenses encourage everyone, including > > companies like Cisco, to modify the software as they see fit and then > > share it with others, under certain conditions. One of those > > conditions says that anyone who redistributes the software must also > > provide their recipients with the source code to that program. The > > FSF has documented many instances where Cisco has distributed licensed > > software but failed to provide its customers with the corresponding > > source code. > > > > "Our licenses are designed to ensure that everyone who uses the > > software can change it," said Richard Stallman, president and founder > > of the FSF. "In order to exercise that right, people need the source > > code, and that's why our licenses require distributors to provide it. > > We are enforcing our licenses to protect the rights that everyone > > should have with all software: to use it, share it, and modify it as > > they see fit." > > > > "We began working with Cisco in 2003 to help them establish a process > > for complying with our software licenses, and the initial changes were > > very promising," explained Brett Smith, licensing compliance engineer > > at the FSF. "Unfortunately, they never put in the effort that was > > necessary to finish the process, and now five years later we have > > still not seen a plan for compliance. As a result, we believe that > > legal action is the best way to restore the rights we grant to all > > users of our software." > > > > "Free software developers entrust their copyrights to the FSF so we > > can make sure that their work is always redistributed in ways that > > respect user freedom," said Peter Brown, executive director of the > > FSF. "In the fifteen years we've spent enforcing our licenses, we've > > never gone to court before. We have always managed to get the > > companies we have worked with to take their obligations seriously. But > > at the end of the day, we're also willing to take the legal action > > necessary to ensure users have the rights that our licenses > > guarantee." > > > > The complaint was filed this morning in United States District Court > > for the Southern District of New York by the Software Freedom Law > > Center, which is providing representation to the FSF in this case. > > The case is number 08-CV-10764 and will be heard by Judge Paul > > G. Gardephe. A copy of the complaint is available at > > <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/complaint-2008-12-11.pdf>. > > > > ### About the FSF > > > > The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to > > promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and > > redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and > > use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating > > system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free > > software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and > > political issues of freedom in the use of software, and its Web sites, > > located at fsf.org and gnu.org, are an important source of information > > about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at > > <http://donate.fsf.org>. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. > > > > ### About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) > > > > The GNU General Public License (GPL) is a license for software. When > > a program is released under its terms, every user will have the > > freedom to share and change it, no matter how they get it. The GPL is > > the most popular free software license in the world, used by almost > > three quarters of all free software packages. The FSF recently > > updated the license to address new concerns in the free software > > community; version 3 of the GPL (GPLv3) was released on June 29, 2007. > > > > ### About the GNU Operating System and Linux > > > > Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a > > free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only > > operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' > > freedom. See <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html>. > > > > In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for > > one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under > > the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux > > formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for > > the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination > > is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see > > <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html>. > > > > ### Media Contacts > > > > Brett Smith > > Licensing Compliance Engineer > > Free Software Foundation > > +1 (617) 542 5942 x18 > > <brett(a)fsf.org> > > > > ### > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf > > > > > > > > -- > > This email is for the intended recipient only. 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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is tomorrow!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

There is a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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Setting a linux computer to run only on the kernel that came with cd
by Ron Dean 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

I installed a win modem and have got it to work with ubuntu 8.04 however the driver only works with kernel 2.6.24-16-generic. How do I get it to boot up all the time with this kernel so that he doesn't need to make a choice from the grub boot menu where I have newer kernels installed. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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This years WLUG Xmas BBQ
by Bruce Kingsbury 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

This years WLUG Xmas BBQ is to be Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and PaulQuilty house. Saturday December 6th, 4pm Until everyones gone. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge MAP: http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ or http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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passwords
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

hey all I have a dell laptop (Inspiron 3200) running Ubuntu 5.10 (very well to I might add, not like the 64bit Ubuntu 8.04 on my acer). Anyhow, when I want to look at files on that machine via. LAN, I am presented with a password dialog box. When I enter my password that I use as admin on that machine, It tells me that the password is wrong. Can anyone tell me where in the the filesystem is the file that contains the passwords, that I can edit with GEDIT? Glenn

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Setting up a computer for a friend
by Ron Dean 28 Nov '08

28 Nov '08

We first got Puppy Linux to work off the cd . But he wants to run Ubuntu 8.10 However when we go to load it it defaults to the command line and we don't know what we are doing. What information do you need to help us and what commands should we try ? -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Dual-Seat Kids Computer PaulQuilty will present on configuring a linux box to enable dual workstations to run off a single box - allowing 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, each running a fully independant session. Effectively 2 computers running on one box.

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cups driver for dcp-115c
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

hi all Im trying to get my Brother DCP-115C multifunction printer to work under Linux ubuntu 8.04. Upon trying to get my DCP-115c to work, I have consulted the brother website: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html#2 It reccommends that users of the DCP-115c use the MFC-210C package, however, I cannot get the brother MFC-210C package to install' because when I do it comes up with the 'wrong architecture - i386' error message. Upon further reading of the page I read the following for AMD 64bit users: "For AMD64 bit users: Our CUPS drivers and CUPS wrapper drivers have been developed and optimised for 32 bit Linux distributions, a list of which can be found here: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/linux_config_list2.html However, if you are using an AMD64 bit distribution, we recommend you try copying the file named "brlpdwrapper" from /usr/lib/cups/filter to /usr/lib64/cups/filter." I have checked my /usr/lib/cups/filter directory and discovered that there was no file named "brlpdwrapper'. No surprises there, since the MFC-210C package would not install. Any suggestions? Glenn.

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benq scanner install
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

hi all I am installing my Benq scanner, and I have run into some trouble. I have listed my installation steps and terminal output: System: Ubuntu 5.10 Kernel:2.6.12-9 386 Scanner: BENQ 4300U Flatbed scanner USB 1.0 Powerpack 16v(a)1.0A 1. Before plugging scanner in: tail /var/log/messages glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages Nov 21 21:14:08 localhost kernel: [4311704.892000] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, address 3 Nov 21 21:14:10 localhost kernel: [4311707.716000] usb 1-1.2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 16 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: evdev: already loaded glenn(a)glenn:~$ 2. When scanner is recognised upon plugging in: glenn(a)glenn:~$ tail /var/log/messages Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost kernel: [4311707.901000] input: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:07.2-1.2 Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: tsdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: mousedev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost input.agent[12936]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:11 localhost usb.agent[12951]: usbhid: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13046]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13052]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:14:12 localhost input.agent[13113]: evdev: already loaded Nov 21 21:17:31 localhost kernel: [4311908.671000] usb 1-1.4.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 17 Nov 21 21:17:32 localhost usb.agent[13207]: libusbscanner: loaded successfully glenn(a)glenn:~$ 3. lsusb glenn(a)glenn:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 017: ID 04a5:20b0 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 3300U/4300U Bus 001 Device 016: ID 046d:c019 Logitech, Inc. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 glenn(a)glenn:~$ 4. Checked /proc/bus/usb/devices to see if the scanner was recognised and had loaded a driver (driver=(none) in my case. glenn(a)glenn:~$cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=03 Prnt=04 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 17 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=20b0 Rev= 1.20 S: Manufacturer=Color S: Product= FlatbedScanner 22 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=16ms glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ 5. As a normal user, run xsane from the terminal: glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ xsane ERROR MESSAGE: Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:001:017': Invalid argument. 6. Run scanscan from the terminal: glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ snapscan bash: snapscan: command not found This is where I get into trouble as I cannot run apt-get on my 5.10 machine and can't figure out what to do next. Glenn.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Dual-Seat Kids Computer PaulQuilty will present on configuring a linux box to enable dual workstations to run off a single box - allowing 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, each running a fully independant session. Effectively 2 computers running on one box.

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installing brother DPC-115C
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi all I am attempting to install a brother dpc- 115 multifunction printer to my newly ubuntu'd laptop. I have downloaded the debian package from brother: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html but when I attempted to install the package, I received the following error: glenn(a)glenn-asus:/brother$ sudo dpkg -i --force-all --force-architecture mfc210clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb Password: (Reading database ... 88020 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace mfc210clpr 1.0.2-1 (using mfc210clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement mfc210clpr ... Setting up mfc210clpr (1.0.2-1) ... ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so' to `/usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so.1.0.2': File exists glenn(a)glenn-asus:/brother$ Do I need to install cups first? And am I downloading the correct driver? According to the brother website, the correct package was the one I downloaded, but I might be wrong about that. Any help appreciated. Glenn.

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CPS
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi Bruce Should explain that I am running Ubuntu 7.04 on my Asus Laptop. Ok, when I go to the add printer setting in the administration menu, When I click on add new printer, it reads the CUPS database and shows that the two printers that I have connected to the Asus via. USB are detected. One being the Brother DCP-115c and the other is my little Xerox Phaser 3115. When I select the Brother printer and click on Forward, it shows in the manufacturers box at the top Brother..which is good. Underneath is the model of printer..cannot see DCP 115c in the menu. According to the Brother website, I should be using the MFC-210 Debian driver (Is this correct..?). Which also isn't listed. Ok, if I need to install CSH, where can I find this package and how do I install it (bearing in mind that I am going to have to transfer any drivers to the machine via. USB stick since I dont't as yet have the network operational on the Asus. Please excuse my ignorance as I have NO experience with CUPS or printing documents in a linux OS environment. T Thanks so much for your help thus far. Glenn.

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RDram
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi All, I am looking for some rdram for a slow computer. Two 128's would help a lot if they were available. Regards John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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Fwd: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)
by Ian McDonald 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

This looks like a good article - haven't worked through all the details but looks useful. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: imcdnzl <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM Subject: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet) To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz, ian.mcdonald(a)datacom.co.nz Sent to you by imcdnzl via Google Reader: Authenticate Linux Clients with Active Directory (Technet)<http://lwn.net/Articles/307261/rss> via LWN.net <http://lwn.net> by ris on 11/14/08 Microsoft's Technet Magazine has a lengthy article<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/magazine/dd228986.aspx>on authenticating Linux clients with Active Directory. "Originally, Linux (and the GNU tools and libraries that run on it) was not built with a single authentication mechanism in mind. As a result of this, Linux application developers generally took to creating their own authentication scheme. They managed to accomplish this by either looking up names and password hashes in /etc/passwd (the traditional text file containing Linux user credentials) or providing an entirely different (and separate) mechanism." Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to LWN.net<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Flwn.net%2Fheadlines%2…>using *Google Reader* - Get started using Google Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up with *all your favorite sites* -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 31 Aberfoyle Street # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together
by David Hallett 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Waikato ICT Community - Drinks and Get Together Come and join the Waikato Branch of the NZCS for a get together next Thursday (20th November). Pop along to the Cock & Bull and catch up with others in the Waikato ICT Community. We'd love to hear how NZCS can further support ICT professionals in Waikato, keep you up-to-date on progress on the many NZCS projects (including the introduction of a Competency Framework and international Certification programme), or just come along and catch up with others working in ICT in Hamilton. All Welcome - first drink free! Registration required for catering purposes: http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3846-NZCS_Waikato_ICT_Get_together Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Upgrading from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 on my laptop
by Ron Dean 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Would it be a good idea to upgrade as I have every thing working on my laptop including wireless internet I have already upgraded my Desktop Computer by doing a fresh install and have eventually got everything working but with my laptop I had a considerable amount of help from wlug members. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu 8.10 failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi All My last action was to install 8.04 on the machine and it went in without error and seems to run well. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did > report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was > corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? > John

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Re: [wlug] Thank you
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

I am on the bludge for a pci video card and an agp video card. They do not have to be very upmarket I just want to get away from the shared memory on two of my old computers that I will ultimately be giving away Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > on that note, i have alot of old kit (i dont know if this > is the right place to say so, if not someone tell me > where) sort of pentium 1ish some newer some older, more > keyboards then you can shake a stick at (over every > flavour, mostly ps2) and a hord of jsut other general junk > , i am happy to give it away to anyone who wants it, > either as a whole big pile, or piece meal if there is > something specific you are hunting for, all tallied up > there is easy a big van full.. (i mean hord) so, if anyone > out there is keen, let me know, also if you contact me i > can give you a better idea what is there > > Cheers > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Darryn Brooking > <gible(a)gible.net> wrote: > > > EDay = BAD. > > This is the 3rd? time since that I could have passed on > something I tossed. > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Lawson > <daniel(a)meta.net.nz>wrote: > > >> Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: > >> > Hey Daniel > >> > > >> > Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had > my old win 98 >> > machine that I do my maths work on and > it had a modem, so i thought id >> > give it a bash with > your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a >> > > website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns > out that I had >> > to install netBEUI and install ICS > from the win 98 add new programs >> > menu, but once that > was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had >> > > good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in > my Vista >> > machines network card settings, but once i > had, it connected too. >> > So thank you for all your help > , and to the other members of WLUG who >> > helped me out. > >> > > >> > >> That's ok. > >> > >> As a suggestion for a future project, you could install > linux on an >> older computer (probably best to not > install X, and you might take it as >> a chance to try a > different distribution), and set it up as a router and >> > firewall. Some of the "magic" has gone from this these > days, as there >> are plenty of distributions that are > oriented towards doing this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my > old Dell 133 >> > Laptop, or a serial network connection > if there is such a thing >> > >> $20 on trademe will get you a pcmcia 10/100 ethernet > card. Be careful of >> what you get, a lot of them need a > small custom cable (commonly called a >> dongle) that > connects to the card and provides a physical RJ45 port, > and >> these can either be missing completely, or damaged > - so get a card that >> has a built-in rj45 port > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Junkj
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Andrew, Let us know if your going to chuck anything out. Im a real steptoe. Glenn.

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Thank you
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Daniel Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had my old win 98 machine that I do my maths work on and it had a modem, so i thought id give it a bash with your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns out that I had to install netBEUI and install ICS from the win 98 add new programs menu, but once that was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in my Vista machines network card settings, but once i had, it connected too. So thank you for all your help, and to the other members of WLUG who helped me out. Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my old Dell 133 Laptop, or a serial network connection if there is such a thing Cheers all Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled?
by GJB 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

It could be something to do with setting the software repositories correctly before starting these managers up. I think there should be something called "Sources" or similar on the system menu. It may need these set right before first starting. Maybe just starting is sufficient to get some basic settings and repositories but needs to be restarted before they become effective. Just a theory. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled? > From: Chakat Sandwalker <sandwalker(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 09, 2008 8:32 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > I've been using 8.10 since the second beta came out (I'd bought a new > laptop, and I didn't want to wait two weeks for the final version to be > released before I could install it), and it seems to be having some odd > issues. > > The first one is that Synaptic and related programs, such as the Update > Manager, stop responding when being started for the first time -- > Synaptic will load, but then stop responding before it can load the list > of packages. I have to force it to quit (either by clicking its Close > button, or killing the process). Starting Synaptic again will then > proceed normally. When the Update Manager is used, and 'Install' is > clicked, the download progress dialog is displayed, but is blank and > appears to have stopped responding. Again, clicking its Close button or > killing the process and trying again works. This hasn't happened on the > other computer I installed 8.10 on -- in fact, the other computer > started with Alpha 4. It's just my laptop having issues. > > The second oddity I have is that the first time I click on the Bookmarks > menu in Firefox on my laptop, it always brings up the 'save bookmark' > dialog. It's getting to be quite a nuisance. > > When headphones are plugged into the headphone jack, the main speakers > aren't muted -- both them and the headphones play sound. I'm not sure > if this is a quirk of my hardware or not. Perhaps I'll come to the next > workshop to have it looked at. > > And now my wireless isn't working -- it was when I installed 8.10 (after > I blacklisted the ath_pci driver to force it to use the ath5k driver), > but now it won't even show up as an interface. > > If anyone has any clues about these, I'd appreciate some help, otherwise > I'll wait for the next workshop. > > Sandy > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi All, Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a number of different c/d's First a rc then two final desktops including trying the live versions also an alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain light brown blank screen The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is particularly true of the alternate, the last few files take a long time to config/install. I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have installed puppy linux in two or three times without a problem. Knoppix live works just fine Any help would be appreciated. Regards John

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Daniel Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo ./ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1c:25:e5:71:ee inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21c:25ff:fee5:71ee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:498 (498.0 B) TX bytes:4301 (4.2 KB) Interrupt:17 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) TX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo route -n [sudo] password for glenn: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 219.88.251.16 connect: Network is unreachable glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.2 PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=7.31 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.412 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.384 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.746 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.369 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.397 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.598 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.354 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.354/1.137/7.310/2.061 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.3 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6.25 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.306 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.272 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.258 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.302 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.262 ms --- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.258/0.873/6.250/1.792 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.4 PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=6.26 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.383 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.366 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.374 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.385 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.375 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.372 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.393 ms --- 192.168.0.4 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.366/0.967/6.262/1.765 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ Here is the output from ipconfig on my Windows Vista Laptop....... Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001] Copyright <c> 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Glenn\ipconfig Windows IP Configuration PPP adaptor Kiwi Online Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.150.120.140 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Wireless LAN adaptor Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Ethernet adaptor Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . . . : fe80::2143:794a:d1cb:f50d%8 IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 10: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 11: ntyMedia State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 12: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:ca96:788c:ca96:788c Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c58:6301 C:\Users\Glenn> Thanks for the help. How do I go about installing Samba on my Ubuntu machine? (what commands do I need to type in?) Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Again I managed to get Ibex to install and run on an old amd duron with no real problems so maybe this latest Ubuntu IS a bit of a lottery with older machines. I will try to install Linux mint on the other machine just to see what happens... John -

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

sadly the bios memory setting is maxed out on my machine so am unable to alter memory allocation. John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

OK I will go into the bios and push up the vid card memory and see if that helps John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

the only working option is the cli john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > desktops including trying the live versions also an > alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting > to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain > light brown blank screen > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is > particularly true of the alternate, the last few files > take a long time to config/install. > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > Any help would be appreciated. > Regards John > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Thanks Daniel Will have the output for you later this evening. Thanks all of you for your helpful advise. Glenn.

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

hey all I am trying to get my pppoe working on my desktop computer, everytime I unlock the network settings, and check the pppoe option, as fast as I select pppoe, it unchecks the box. here is the output from lspci relating to my ethernet controller: glenn(a)glenn ~$lspci 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) Now I can see my other computers but I cant access them, althought I can ping them. Why can't I set up pppoe? Any help appreciated. Glenn

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Not sure if this is helpful or not but Clearnet had a recent network collapse resulting in PPP dropping out completely to a large number of users. No amount of resetting would fix the problem until I had spoken with Clearnet's IT people who fixed it from their end.... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi Glenn, > > Please keep this onlist. I'm not the only person that can > help you, and other people can benefit from the answers as > well. > > > > sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access > > them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my > > network, but when I click on those machines, no files or > > directories of the machines that I am trying to access > > appear, like what you would see if you had a properly > configured and set up network. > > > You'll need to enable shared folders on each machine > before you can see them. Follow the notes in my other > email on this. If you can ping the other machine's ip > address, it means your network is working. > > > Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to > > access the internet via my windows laptop, because the > > modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, > > does not have 64bit support, and probably never will > > have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not > willing to release thier source code so that linux > > developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. > > PPPoE won't help you with this. You need to enable > Internet connection sharing on the windows machine. You > can then connect to the internet from windows, and it will > share the connection to other computers on your network - > eg, your linux box. Your linux system will then connect > *over the ethernet network*, through your windows > computer. No PPPoE is involved. > > http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/winxp/ics.aspx > > > > > > As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also > > doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to > > use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple > > of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may > > try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also > unavailable to me. > > You can get USB serial adapters which will let you do > this. > > > > In general, most of these problems stop surfacing now > because very few people still have dialup internet. Most > people have DSL these days, and while a lot of the free > DSL routers you get with your connection are USB based, > it's very easy to purchase a full ethernet router which > will do the job. You used to be able to get dialup routers > which did the same thing (plug a serial modem into them, > they connect to the internet, and share the connection to > your PCs), but I doubt this is a feasible option. > > I'm sorry that we can't be more help remotely. It's hard > enough troubleshooting this stuff via email, but it's also > been years since I did anything involving getting > winmodems to work. > > > If you want to try ICS stuff again, can you please > > * verify that you've set ICS up, sharing the modem with > your LAN, under windows > * run "ipconfig" in a command shell in windows and check > that you have IP addresses allocated - should look like > 192.168.X.Y or 10.X.Y.Z where X Y Z might be anything. > Send me the output from this command > > * run "/sbin/ifconfig " in a terminal in linux and check > that your network interface (probably eth0) has an IP > address that looks very similar to the windows one. Send > me the output from this command. > > * run "/sbin/route -n" in a terminal in linux, and verify > that the line that starts with "0.0.0.0" has your windows > IP address in the second column. Send me the output from > this as well. > > * If the above two tests aren't true, verify that your > network in linux is set to dynamic or automatically assign > or roaming mode (all different names for the same thing, > not sure what you'll see). > > * If the IP address you got above for linux started with > 169, it means that either ICS isn't set up properly, or > your computers aren't connected properly. You've said you > can ping the other computer, so i assume this is probably > OK > > * assuming the "route" test above is correct, you can ping > the windows laptop, and the windows laptop is connected to > the internet, try to ping a computer on the internet. For > example, open a terminal, and run "ping 219.88.251.16". If > that works, you're on the internet just fine. > > * If the above works fine, and you still can't browse the > internet from, say, firefox, then your DNS settings are > probably wrong. Try going to a website by using its IP > address. For example, the WLUG wiki is at 60.234.66.116. > Load up firefox, and go to http://60.234.66.116/. > > * If the above works, then you need to fix your DNS > settings. We'll sort that when we get to it > > * If it doesn't work, then we need to look at other things > still. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hey Daniel, sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my network, but when I click on those machines, no files or directories of the machines that I am trying to access appear, like what you would see if you had a properly configured and set up network. Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me. I will install Samba on my Acer Linux desktop, and have already enabled sharing on my folders on my Windows Vista laptop, however, the problem that I have is that under Heron, I cannot get my pppoe settings to 'stick' as it were, as soon as I click on them, they deselect themselves and uncheck the pppoe box. This is what I am trying to investigate the cause of. This is all very frustrating but I am not going to give up because I believe in the principles behind Linux and the open source software community, I just have to do a heck of a lot of learning FAST. Cheers Glenn.

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crossover weirdness in suse ?
by Bruce Kingsbury 02 Nov '08

02 Nov '08

Trying to help Ditar here with installing crossover, it seems to be trying to use a font that opensuse doesn't have installed? screenshot attached Any suggestions? -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Help wanted - music video clip or animation
by Liz Quilty 01 Nov '08

01 Nov '08

I made a silly parody song about geeks/computers/etc . Im so-so at singing, slightly worse at editing that with music. I made a parody song however which some people have said is funny and i should have some sort of 'video clip' to go with it on youtube. I dont suppose anyone here is into video editing at all and are bored enough to make something cool up? Liz Q

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Re: [wlug] WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 01 Nov '08

01 Nov '08

This Question remained unanswered at our meeting. Google gave this result however I do not have that line in my "about:config" so I am unsure if it works or not: This does not clear my browsing history in Firefox 3.0??? Posted by: Jon at August 31, 2008 6:19 AM Its true. Clearing private data in Firefox 3 won't clear the history in the URL bar. To do this, do the following: If you don't want RichResults keep track of where you went, in Firefox you need to enter about:config and then scroll down to: browser.urlbar.maxRichResults and change the default. The default setting is 12 and if you want nothing, you enter 0. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ Saturday November 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm > > We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau > PÅ«tahi > (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi > /?place/full_map), the community church at the end of > Oxford Street. > > > We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, > Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday November 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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dead horse flogging
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

I tried to get my Asus laptop (Vista) to talk to my Acer (Linux Ubuntu 8.04) but no joy. I can ping 192.168.0.1, which is the Asus's network address, but cant see a network connection in the places>network folder. I've tried both DHCP and Roaming. I had a look on the back of my Acer, and it hasnt got a serial port, nor a parallel port. My arm is getting sore from all this dead horse flogging. Glenn.

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dead horse
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Hey all Thanks for all the good advise. You are all right, I am flogging a dead horse trying to get this internal PCI Modem working in my machine with 64Bit architecture. Could i instead of trying to get Ubuntu to talk with my pci modem, try and establish an internet connection through my Windows Vista Laptop via. my ethernet card and a 100Mb switch? The switch shows there is a connection between the two machines, as yet I have not configured a network as I don't know how. By and by, does anyone want my PCI modem? It works fine with Vista, and I'll give it away, heck, Ill even post it to you for free just to get rid of the thing.... Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 208, Issue 15
by Ronnie Collinson 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

>I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >because Linux seems so attractive. >Glenn. I thin you will find that once you start using linux, that you will pick up the basics quicker then you think, but unfortunately without net access its a major pain, unfortunately more and more pcs are coming without serial ports any more (I bought a USB > Serial adapter of trademe the other day for $10 inc postage). Fortunately ethernet is plug and play, and wireless is getting pretty good. I doubt "win-modem support will ever get better as fewer and fewer people are using it. On 10/30/08, wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: slamr architecture error (GJB) > 2. Re: slamr architecture error (Glenn Stuart Morrissey) > 3. Re: slamr architecture error (Roger Searle) > 4. Re: slamr architecture error (Daniel Lawson) > 5. Re: slamr architecture error (Bruce Kingsbury) > 6. Re: slamr architecture error (Chris O'Halloran) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:46:14 -0700 > From: "GJB" <balle(a)auspira.com> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <20081029024614.82ec331de94f1c4494241ee0c8bc5dda.51721241e1.wbe(a)email.secu…> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > I think slamr is a dodgy package ... I've gotten the same errors on > Tosh. A-106 laptop running Xubuntu. It's got its knickers in a twist > trying to work with some level stuff Windows uses for the software > modem. > > Thank the lord I don't need to use my modem very much anymore, I can't > believe such a simple device evades a software fix ... but hey, you get > what you pay for! > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [wlug] slamr architecture error >> From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> >> Date: Wed, October 29, 2008 10:10 pm >> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >> >> >> After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied >> down the output of the setup.sh. >> >> >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup >> installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic >> driver=slamr >> >> Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading >> *dpkg: error processing >> sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): >> package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb >> >> Copying over newer files >> Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra >> Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra >> Checking driver install >> slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko >> Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ >> Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 >> ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found >> Finished installs. >> Informing the System >> >> Starting function tests, loading drivers: >> FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem >> (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid >> module format >> FATAL: Error inserting slamr >> (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format >> Running diagnostic: >> >> >> ports should be created by: >> slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 >> ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found >> Checking for success >> Port creation with slmodemd failed. >> Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . >> >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ >> >> Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to >> compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the >> modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for >> 32 bit systems. >> >> Glenn.<hr>_______________________________________________ >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:44 +1300 > From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4908344C.1060102(a)kol.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices > like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up > and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it > is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced > computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame > because Linux seems so attractive. > > Glenn. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:11:34 +1300 > From: Roger Searle <woja(a)paradise.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <49089946.6000006(a)paradise.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Glenn I think you're right to a certain extent and I have been where you > are. It is a steep learning curve but you don't need to move up it > particularly quickly. Part of the difficulty you have is that you > need/want to get a modem going as this can prove to be difficult - or > impossible - even for the gurus depending on the specific hardware. > Being on DSL or cable certainly makes things simpler, it will probably > "just work". I spent some years continually frustrated by one thing or > another, feeling incredibly stupid at times since so many little things > would baffle me, and I have a background of some years successfully > doing nearly any windows-based setup and networking I desired. However > when I look back at my early windows days, there was pain there too! > > I hung in there despite the setbacks, asked questions on linux lists, > googled, and didn't give up. Distros improved but so did my > understanding of linux administration. My path has taken me through > various distros as I've learnt, and my experience these days is that > nearly everything works out of the box (I'm generally talking kubuntu). > However there will be something that does/will not and I live with that > and look to the next release. Where something different will cause me > grief. But I hang in there, I'm looking forward to Intrepid Ibex's > release tomorrow or the next day and will give it a spin, perhaps this > will be the one where everything "just works" . . . > > Regards > Roger > > > Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. >> >> Glenn. >> _______________________________________________ >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:13:41 +1300 > From: Daniel Lawson <daniel(a)meta.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4908A7D5.9050700(a)meta.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. > > There's a large element of luck in it too, if you aren't already > familiar with linux. By that I mean that if you aren't planning on > buying hardware that is specifically compatible with linux, it's all > down to luck as to how well things will work or not :P > > Your problem in particular is made harder for me (and most others with > plenty of experience) to diagnose because, for the most part, we stopped > using dialup a long time ago. Linux support for the so-called winmodems > is far better than it used to be (they never used to work, and now, in > general, they do). > > I can probably dig up a *real* external serial modem for you to borrow > (or buy, if you like). No drivers needed. I see you're from New > Plymouth, so suggesting you come to the Saturday workshop probably > doesn't help a lot. > > Just a question though - you're managing to download files (and send > email)somehow, what computer and connection are you using for that? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:54:04 +1300 > From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <54e2f3c80810291154i1d3be6c2t6f88515843bcaa21(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > 2008/10/29 Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. >> > > Windows has the advantage of being a monopoly, manufacturers have to write > Windows drivers or nobody will buy their hardware. Linux is starting to get > much better support in this area and you'll find where manufacturers have > fully embraced the 'open source' way of doing things, getting the hardware > to work requires nothing more than plugging it in. But unfortunately some > hardware still has little or no support in Linux. > > Two suggestions; > > External serial modems are cheap, about $15-$20 on Trademe. And people > keep giving me free ones which I give away so I can avoid solving problems > like this. Let me know if you'd like one. Serial modems 'just work' in any > mainstream Linux distro. > > If you're going to be compiling drivers or trying to run windows drivers > in some form of emulation wrapper, you'll find things are much more likely > to work in 32-bit linux. Getting winmodems to work is always difficult, > getting driver wrapper-glue and 32-bit binary blobs to build in 64-bit Linux > is much more difficult. >

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Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error
by GJB 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

I think slamr is a dodgy package ... I've gotten the same errors on Tosh. A-106 laptop running Xubuntu. It's got its knickers in a twist trying to work with some level stuff Windows uses for the software modem. Thank the lord I don't need to use my modem very much anymore, I can't believe such a simple device evades a software fix ... but hey, you get what you pay for! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] slamr architecture error > From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > Date: Wed, October 29, 2008 10:10 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied > down the output of the setup.sh. > > > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup > installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic > driver=slamr > > Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading > *dpkg: error processing > sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): > package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* > Errors were encountered while processing: > sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb > > Copying over newer files > Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra > Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra > Checking driver install > slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko > Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ > Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 > ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found > Finished installs. > Informing the System > > Starting function tests, loading drivers: > FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid > module format > FATAL: Error inserting slamr > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format > Running diagnostic: > > > ports should be created by: > slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 > ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found > Checking for success > Port creation with slmodemd failed. > Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . > > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ > > Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to > compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the > modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for > 32 bit systems. > > Glenn.<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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slamr architecture error
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied down the output of the setup.sh. glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic driver=slamr Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading *dpkg: error processing sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* Errors were encountered while processing: sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb Copying over newer files Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra Checking driver install slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found Finished installs. Informing the System Starting function tests, loading drivers: FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format Running diagnostic: ports should be created by: slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found Checking for success Port creation with slmodemd failed. Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for 32 bit systems. Glenn.

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Codeweavers giving away CrossOver
by Ian McDonald 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjgxNw -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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sudo apt-get install ls-modem-daemon sl-modem-source
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Hi Daniel I followed your instructions as per your email: glenn(a)glenn1:~$ sudo apt-get install ls-modem-daemon sl-modem-source [sudo] password for glenn: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package ls-modem-daemon glenn(a)glenn1:~$ When I went to read the readme file: glenn(a)glenn1:~$ cd /usr/share/doc glenn(a)glenn1:/usr/share/doc$ gedit sl-modem-source/README.Debian glenn(a)glenn1:/usr/share/doc$ I just had an empty screen. I ls'd the /usr/share/doc directory and I couldn't find any listing for sl-modem. Am I right to assume that this is not installed, and if so, how can I install the package from my install cd? Glenn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Stuart Morrissey 55 Poplar Grove Whalers Gate New Plymouth, 4310. New Zealand. 06 751 1293 021 022 402 01 gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz

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typo
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

i just realised i had a typo in the command (sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon sl-modem-source) but still got the same result Glenn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Stuart Morrissey 55 Poplar Grove Whalers Gate New Plymouth, 4310. New Zealand. 06 751 1293 021 022 402 01 gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz

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lspci output
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Daniel Here is the output you requested glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lspci -nn -v -s 03:00.0 03:00.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Conexant Unknown device [14f1:8852] (rev 02) Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Unknown device [0070:71d1] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fe600000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] Capabilities: <access denied> glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lspci -nn -v -s 06:06.0 06:06.0 Modem [0703]: Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem [1057:3052] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) Subsystem: Motorola Unknown device [1057:3020] Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21 Memory at febff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Capabilities: <access denied> glenn(a)glenn1:~$

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finding the modem
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Daniel, Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)glenn1:~$lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [IDE mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI2 Controller 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobilitiy Radeon HD 3450 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] 03:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Unknown device 8852 (rev 02) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) 05:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): JMicron Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 2380 06:06.0 Modem: Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem (rev 04) glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lsusb Bus 007 Device 003: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:0618 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 glenn(a)glenn1:~$

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SpeedCom HP156M3
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 25 Oct '08

25 Oct '08

Hi All I got it wrong, just did some reading at Wikipedia and I have got a PCI modem and not a serial modem..apologies. I have a SpeedCom HP156M3 Internal PCI 2 Wire ISDN Modem. I did a google search but couldnt find any drivers for Linux. Does anyone know where I might find some, or is the modem just a winmodem and thats all? Glenn Morrissey.

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Re: [wlug] Is anyone able to help me configure a USB modem in Ubuntu
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

hey all thanks for all the great information. I had a serial modem that came installed in the machine when I bought it a couple of months ago. Its a brand new computer and I couldnt get scanmodem to detect it, thats why I tried to install a USB modem instead. I can supply output of the scanmodem program if required. Thanks all Glenn.

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Is anyone able to help me configure a USB modem in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heon
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Hi there all Is anyone here able to help me configure a Lucent external usb modem? I know that Heron detects that there is a device, because when I run lsusb: lsusb Bus 001 Device 011: ID 047e:2892 Agere Systems, Inc (Lucent) and I have tried to run modprobe: sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x47e product=0x2892 but nothing appears to be happening??? I dont have a device manager installed, like I do on my Ubuntu 7.04 release, although I have downloaded the gnome device manager (gnome-device-manager-0.1) I wouldnt have a clue on how to install the package, remembering that I dont have internet access on this machine makes it a real pain, because there are drivers that I need for the display that I dont have. My querry on this matter is on the Ubuntu Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5987714#post5987714 Please bear in mind that I am a complete novice with Linux and Ubuntu, but really REALLY want to get a working knowledge of it. Thank you Glenn Morrissey

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Fwd: Nine Attitude Problems in Free and Open Source Software (Datamation)
by Ian McDonald 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: imcdnzl <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM Subject: Nine Attitude Problems in Free and Open Source Software (Datamation) To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz Sent to you by imcdnzl via Google Reader: Nine Attitude Problems in Free and Open Source Software (Datamation)<http://lwn.net/Articles/303929/rss> via LWN.net <http://lwn.net> by corbet on 10/20/08 Here's your sermon for the day: Datamation lists a set of perceived "attitude problems"<http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3778096/Nine+Attitude+Pro…>found in the free software community. "Especially in large projects, documenters, testers, artists, marketers and managers -- to say nothing of general end users -- have all become essential contributors. Increasingly, a FOSS software release is becoming a collaboration among people of different skill sets. Yet, despite this change, in many projects, non-developers are given second class treatment. In a large number of cases, they cannot become full members of the project, and are not allowed to vote." Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to LWN.net<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Flwn.net%2Fheadlines%2…>using *Google Reader* - Get started using Google Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up with *all your favorite sites* -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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[OT] Windows CD needed
by Bryce Utting 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi all, Sorry (especially!) about the subject -- downgrading a flatmate's PC to XP, with, unfortunately, a duff-copy CD. Is anyone able to help out with a good one? (yep, the license and key are good.) ta, Bryce

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The dying embers of Microsoft's IP claims against open source
by Ian McDonald 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10070008-16.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2… By the way - how did the AGM go last night? Who got elected and who didn't? And how about the special motion? -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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The dying embers of Microsoft's IP claims against open source
by mikencolleen 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Testing! I just want to see what happens when you email the story from Google's RSS reader. Michael Sent to you by mikencolleen via Google Reader: The dying embers of Microsoft's IP claims against open source via CNET News.com on 10/20/08 Redmond continues to fan the flames of its IP claims against open source, but it sounds less inclined to defend them vigorously now that it's an active consumer of open source. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to CNET News.com using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:15pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG SGM A Special General Meeting will be held to vote on the following motion: "That the WLUG charter be amended to allow former paid members of the WLUG, whose membership has lapsed, to vote at an AGM of the WLUG with the proviso that they pay a new subscription at or before the AGM." ---- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG AGM A week earlier than usual meeting time due to public holiday Agenda for AGM MC - JamesPluck (Treasurer) * President's Address * Treasurer's Report * Election of the new committee ** Nominees: ** President - JamesPluck, BruceKingsbury ** Vice President - ** Secretary - ** Treasurer - ** General Positions (3 needed) - BryceUtting, JohnBillings, RoderickAldridge, LizQuilty ======= * General Business flyer (http://nimhq.net/agm.pdf )

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:15pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG SGM A Special General Meeting will be held to vote on the following motion: "That the WLUG charter be amended to allow former paid members of the WLUG, whose membership has lapsed, to vote at an AGM of the WLUG with the proviso that they pay a new subscription at or before the AGM." ---- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG AGM A week earlier than usual meeting time due to public holiday Agenda for AGM MC - JamesPluck (Treasurer) * President's Address * Treasurer's Report * Election of the new committee ** Nominees: ** President - JamesPluck, BruceKingsbury ** Vice President - ** Secretary - ** Treasurer - ** General Positions (3 needed) - BryceUtting, JohnBillings, RoderickAldridge, LizQuilty ======= * General Business flyer (http://nimhq.net/agm.pdf )

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Fwd: Linux takes a seat on Qantas' new superjumbo
by Ian McDonald 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

Experienced this system on multiple different Singapore Airline flights recently. Generally fairly good but multiple machines needing rebooting - seemed to be the proprietary system locking up rather than Linux as you could see the Linux kernel booting just fine! Systems were very slow on older planes 747/777 but faster on A380 but still some parts had badly written software as some parts were fast and some parts were slow (30 second wait after pressing a key). A380 has full OpenOffice installed and a USB socket so you can work on documents on your USB key. Tested it and it certainly worked fine! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: imcdnzl <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Date: Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:43 AM Subject: Linux takes a seat on Qantas' new superjumbo To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz Sent to you by imcdnzl via Google Reader: Linux takes a seat on Qantas' new superjumbo<http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/C1160957CBF12890CC2574E200690BDA> via Computerworld <http://computerworld.co.nz/> on 10/14/08 Flight entertainment systems powered by Linux Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Computerworld<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.idg.net.nz%2Frss%…>using *Google Reader* - Get started using Google Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up with *all your favorite sites* -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Connect Technology Showcase 2008
by David Hallett 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

FYI. This event should be of interest to some of you... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Simeon Price <simeonp(a)connectnz.co.nz> Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:29 PM Subject: Connect NZ - Technology Showcase Invitation Greetings, Please take the time to read the invitation below about our Technology Showcase we are running in October. There will be 1 hour talks running throughout the day and our key suppliers with their technology on show for you to see and learn about. Register now via the our website, http://www.connectnz.co.nz/WhatsHot_Hamilton_Form.asp Connect Technology Showcase 2008 Come along to our technology showcase and see the latest technology solutions, talk to the experts about Voice, Document, IT and Audio Visual equipment, and meet our knowledgeable staff. Dates: Wednesday - 22nd October 8am to 7pm Thursday - 23rd October 8am to 5pm Where: Glenview International Hotel & Conference Centre, 254 Ohaupo Road, Glenview, Hamilton RSVP: To register please visit our web site, http://www.connectnz.co.nz Or phone us on: 07 838 3022 The WOW Factor! On display are the latest and greatest products and solutions from the world leaders in business technology. Follow the link on our homepage to secure a spot in any of the following 1 hour power sessions! Register Today and be In To Win! Register online and be in the draw to win an LCD monitor plus other great prizes! TALK: We will discuss VOIP Technology into the future, Teleworking for remote workers, presence and cellular integration. Wed - 8.00 am, Thurs - 10.30 am SEE: Audio visual solutions, video conferencing technology, data projectors and plasmas to suit all business requirements. Boardroom management and control. Wed - 1.00 pm, Thurs - 8.00 am THINK: Our Think workshop will cover IT topics such as virtualisation VM ware, Microsoft Server 2008 and more. Wed - 10.30 am, Thurs - 1.00 pm SHARE: This will be specifically aimed at those in the education sector. We will cover the full range of technology: Voice, document, IT, and smart boards. A certified smart board trainer will provide an update on the latest software tools Wed - 4.00 pm only Enjoy tea and coffee as well as a bite to eat, while viewing all the technology we have on display. Don't miss your opportunity to meet the experts, see the technology in action, gain the skills and technical information you need to set your business apart from the rest. See you soon! Simeon Price | Regional Manager | Connect NZ Limited Ph: 07 838 3022 | DDI: 07 838 8135| Cell: 0274 848 189| Fax: 07 838 3020 Web: www.connectnz.co.nz

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:15pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG SGM A Special General Meeting will be held to vote on the following motion: "That the WLUG charter be amended to allow former paid members of the WLUG, whose membership has lapsed, to vote at an AGM of the WLUG with the proviso that they pay a new subscription at or before the AGM." ---- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) WLUG AGM A week earlier than usual meeting time due to public holiday Agenda for AGM MC - JamesPluck (Treasurer) * President's Address * Treasurer's Report * Election of the new committee ** Nominees: ** President - JamesPluck ** Vice President - ** Secretary - ** Treasurer - <<<<<<< Your version ** General Positions (3 needed) - BryceUtting, JohnBillings, RoderickAldridge ======= >>>>>>> Other version * General Business

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Nominations for officers of the committee
by James Pluck 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Hi All, Just a reminder request for nominations for next years committee. At present, I am the only person nominated for any role. I'm not sure that a committee of 1 is a very good idea. So have a think about it and get your names in for the officers and general positions on the committee to run the WLUG next year. A lot of people have said that they know where the WLUG should be headed and how it should be run. it's time to put your money down and step up! J -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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wlug @ eday
by John Billings 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Some wlug members volunteered at eday this year, here are some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/floydwilde/sets/72157607781272930/ Best, John

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Happy (belated) Birthday Linux!
by James Pluck 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

October 5. Linux turns 17! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-turns-17 -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Oct '08

05 Oct '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Describe http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2008-10-13 here. Agenda Discussion of Software Freedom Day Success: *A manageable turnout *USB stick draw worked well. *Music applications/ setups are popular. *Presentations format worked well. *The posters and advertising had created manageable expectations. *A public figure is a draw card (Nandoor Tanzcos) *Experienced presenters held audience attention. *The fliers and promotional materials were excellent. *News paper recognition. *EEE PC is popular. Things we learned *A resources page/board for those interested in future information. *The value of having someone welcoming people to the event. *The value of having the internet available. *Perhaps a notice board/ white board for any rescheduling issues. *Perhaps some configuration work could have been done earlier *Wireless AND wired access is useful to those wishing to hook up laptops. Number one trouble shooting with laptops is wireless issues so wired access is a prerequisite for troubleshooting some issues. *Have a session demonstrating the OpenDisc (on a windows computer), highlighting the programs on it. Thing we could do better or ideas for discussion *Maybe a local ubuntu respository for any install work to avoid hammering the internet connection. (might also save embarrassment when doing how to install) *Windows machines demonstrating the true cross platform nature of many free software projects *Demonstrating MythTV showing maturity of application. Preparation for AGM

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E-Waste Day...
by Chakat Sandwalker 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

Is anyone here from the central Hamilton West area? I /did/ have someone to take a small load (two monitors, a few PSUs and a few other small bits and pieces), but he won't be in Hamilton tomorrow. This is probably rather late notice, but then I didn't have much notice of changes of plan. If I can't get rid of any of this stuff now, where can I dispose of it later? I've no idea. Sandy

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Oct '08

03 Oct '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Re: [wlug] eday 5th October
by Bruce Kingsbury 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

> I'm not so much interested in pcs (and am happy to leave hard drives of > anything interesting behind at that) however, if servers/networking/old > stuff turns up, i am rather keen on the preservation of such hardware I think there's some allowance for this.. It would be pretty tragic if someone dropped off a 'poly' or similar rare, historic machine and nobody saved it. Anyhow, volunteer information at http://zcat.geek.nz/files/volunteers%208.30%20packers.doc for anybody who plans to help out on the day. Hopefully the list allows attachments. Also I think I've got too much here to fit in my car, let me know if you have some free space and can pass by this way on Sunday morning.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 4th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Announcement: Special General Meeting
by James Pluck 01 Oct '08

01 Oct '08

Hi all. This is to formally announce the intention of the committee to hold a Special General Meeting 15 minutes prior to the AGM (7:15 pm). The topic on the table for this meeting is the motion: "That the charter be amended to allow former paid members of the Waikato Linux Users Group to vote at an AGM of the WLUG with the proviso that their subscription be renewed at or before the AGM." Looking forward to seeing you all there. Cheers J -- James Pluck Treasurer/Librarian Waikato Linux Users Group

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Re: [wlug] Relay For Life
by cmoman 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

On Tuesday 30 September 2008 13:02:49 James Pluck wrote: > (reposted without the mentioned attachment. The PDF will be uploaded later > today to the WLUG server and a link posted later on.) http://www.wlug.org.nz/~cmoman/Race_for_life/Newsletter_Issue_1.pdf

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Relay For Life
by James Pluck 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

(reposted without the mentioned attachment. The PDF will be uploaded later today to the WLUG server and a link posted later on.) Hi All, I was wondering if there was any interest in feilding a team from the WLUG in the Relay For Life next March. I have all the forms and I've attached the PDF of the recent newsletter. If there is enough interest then this could be a good thing to hand to the incoming committee to organise. Cheers James. -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..." -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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eday 5th October
by Roderick Aldridge 28 Sep '08

28 Sep '08

We invite you to attend eDay in Hamilton on 5th October 2008. Your support of the event and attendance would be greatly appreciated. eDay is a drive-through recycling event which gives New Zealand households and community organisations the opportunity to recycle old computers and mobile phones in an environmentally sustainable way. eDay will be held in 30 locations across the country, from Invercargill to Kaitaia, on the 4^th and 5^th of October. // eDay in Hamilton will take place on Sunday 5^th October* *2008 from 9am -- 3pm. You are most welcome to attend at any time during the day as a volunteer. The eDay venue details are as follows: Mainfreight Depot Foreman Rd (off Avalon Dr) Hamilton** * * *Who is attending eDay in Hamilton* § eDay sponsors and stakeholders such as Hamilton City Council Voulnteers, Velocity Networks, Easy Technology and Waikato 2020 Communications Trust § Local media will be invited § Local community disposing of their e-waste; we are expecting up to 800 cars and households to drop-off e-waste. eDay was created by the Computer Access New Zealand Trust (CANZ) in response to a growing concern about the volume of electronic waste (e-waste), especially computers and computer monitors, being dumped in New Zealand landfills. e-waste can seriously harm the environment, wildlife and human health when dumped in landfills. Landfilling e-waste is not a solution because it stores potentially toxic waste rather than allowing for recovery and reuse of valuable materials. eDay aims to increase community awareness of the hazardous nature of electronic equipment, making it clear that disposal in landfills is not a sustainable option. It also provides a mechanism and convenient drop-off points for households and community organisations to dispose of computer equipment and mobile phones in an environmentally sustainable manner. I hope you can join us on 5^th of October. / / / / Please RSVP Regards, Vanessa Mohi-Goodchild eDay Project Manager Waikato 2020 Communications Trust Ph 07 855 6206 Mob 021 11 00 226 vanessa(a)wainet.org <mailto:vanessa(a)wainet.org> Your best chance in 2008 for you and your friends to get rid of that environmentally hazardous computer stuff without feeling guilty. I am sure they would be delighted if you volunteer to help as well. They need as much help as they can get, especially from those who actually know something about computers. Rod

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Fwd: Serious, potentially hardware-damaging e1000e driver issue on Intrepid Alpha 6
by Simon Green 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek(a)ubuntu.com> Date: 2008/9/24 Subject: Serious, potentially hardware-damaging e1000e driver issue on Intrepid To: ubuntu-devel-announce(a)lists.ubuntu.com Reports have been coming in that the e1000e ethernet driver for Intel GigE chipsets, as included upstream in Linux 2.6.27, may under certain conditions irreparably damage your ethernet hardware by corrupting the on-board firmware. While we expect alphas to include a fair number of bugs, and rely on your continued support and testing to help resolve these bugs for Ubuntu releases, bugs that damage hardware are quite another matter. As a result of this bug we must recommend that users do *not* use Intrepid alphas, including the LiveCDs, on machines with Intel GigE ethernet. Efforts to safeguard the hardware of affected users are ongoing, though initially this will consist of a workaround in the form of disabling the e1000e driver. Alpha 6 CD images will not be re-issued for this fix, so affected users are advised to either use daily CD images once a resolution is in place, or to wait for the release of the 8.10 beta, due to be released on October 2. Further discussion of this issue can be found on the ubuntu-devel mailing list at <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-September/026559.html>, and progress on resolving this issue can be tracked at <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/263555>. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek(a)ubuntu.com vorlon(a)debian.org

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Software Freedom Day
by DeeKnow 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

> S-Block, Waikato University, Saturday 20th. It'll be great to have you there. Hey folks. Just thought I'd drop a line to the list as a way of introducing myself and to acknowlege the effort the group obviously put into SFD last weekend. I'm a web developer type who's been working with open-source tech for many years now, some of the Uni folk on the list will know me, I saw a few familiar faces in S-block on Saturday. I was really impressed with what you'd put together. I took a couple of friends along who are also techies, none of us are hard-core Linux desktop users (yet) but two of us have been using *nix back-ends for some time now. Was great to be met on the door (sorry didnt catch the guy's name, my mate Matt used to work with him at Telecom), getting a warm reception at an event like that is so important, especially so I imagine for those who may not be as familiar with all the lingo etc and feeling a bit intimidated by all the Alpha-Geeks. Awesome to see the number of folk there who weren't afraid to be asking questions and finding out about stuff that they could see themselves personally using. Its easy to give people too much info, but from what I saw the speakers and folks at the demos in the reception area had the balance right, not too much, not too condescending. One thing that did strike me was the fact that a lot of the attendees were pretty much already FOSS converts, not too many total noobies, I guess it's tough raising awareness of an event and topic like this, but I wonder if maybe being on the edge of town (ie at the Uni) might not be too far away for some people, would it be better in a central location where casual bypassers could be tempted to pop in and find out whats goin on? All in all, it was very well done, I look FWD to popping along to the next one :-) Dean Stringer

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Anyone else catch this on stuff?
by Jodi Thomson 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

By DAVE THOMPSON - The Press | Tuesday, 23 September 2008 Every week we get someone asking about Linux what is it, why is it and should I do it? The answer is complicated. http://www.stuff.co.nz/4701954a28.html -- Jodi Thomson Systems Engineer Prophecy Networks Ltd P.O.Box 420 21 Browning Street Napier New Zealand DDI: +64 6 8243901 Ph: +64 6 9742200 FAX: +64 6 9742201 Mob: +64 21 937684

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Link to SFD article in STUFF
by James Pluck 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4698998a28.html?source=RSStech_20080920 We made it onto the Stuff.co.nz website :) -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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AGM
by Bruce Kingsbury 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

The WLUG AGM will be on October 20th, 7:30pm at MS4G02 More details will be on the wiki soon -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Waikato boy celebrating SFD in Stockholm Sweden
by Roger Sinel 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

A few of us got out on the streets of Stockholm to spread to good word. As some of you know I'm a expat Kiwi from Hamilton living in and working in Sweden as a Linux Systems Admin. Here are some pics. I'm the one with the Redhat cap on :) http://geraner.vox.com/ My blog about our day. http://nordickiwi.no-ip.com/blog/?p=160 -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) We'll have covered a huge bunch of software on Software Freedom Day (http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2008) For the particular benefit of any visitors (or new members) Bryce Utting (http://www.wlug.org.nz/BryceUtting) will review the ones people were most interested in and kick things open for questions. This may bear a passing similarity with the 2pm session from Saturday. Note that next month's meeting is the AGM, so there won't be a presentation. Feedback from SFD will however be used to guide the November presentation.

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Re: [wlug] SFD stats
by Bruce Kingsbury 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

> Just a quick summary; 44 feedback forms filled in, and we gave away > about 60 each of the OpenDisc and Ubuntu CDs, and I think 15? DVDs of > Big Buck Bunny. > > Really dissappointed that I didn't get to do the 'timelapse video' > thing, Destiny took a few photos from up on the balcony where I had > planned to put the video camera and it would have been really awesome, > but the machine I had spare just wouldn't behave and I ran out of time > to set things up. > > Also a bit frustrated that we didn't get all the PB tech machines set > up on Friday like I planned, but it ended up OK on the day. > > And very happy that Nandor's presentation went so well, and that I got > to talk to Nandor about FreeGeek! Sorry, got distracted. The other thing I wanted to say (and I guess I should cc this to the list because not everyone is on the committee list; Big thanks to the Department of Computer Science at Waikato University who provided us with the venue, and also paid for the very large poster in the main library. Big thanks to the WAND group, and especially Jamie Curtis, who sorted out our network connection as well as a couple of switches and an access point at short notice. And a HUGE thanks to everyone who helped out on the day. I was really happy at how it all worked out. Photos and a write-up will be on the SFD wiki pretty soon.

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Re: [wlug] Monday meeting
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 19 Sep '08

19 Sep '08

I live in Queens Ave so could probably help you. Will be at the software day tommorrow or you can emailme if you wish Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Is there anyone in the Frankton/Dinsdale area that I could > possibly get a lift in and back with? > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Monday meeting
by Ronnie Collinson 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Is there anyone in the Frankton/Dinsdale area that I could possibly get a lift in and back with?

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SFD
by Ronnie Collinson 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Anyone intending to show, the tech demo for Yo Frankie (project apricot) released not quite a week ago, its a project being worked on by blender and crystal space. Its intended to be an open-source game to compete with commercial games. Im no "gamer" but im impressed by the effort and am now downloading said demo for a look.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) We'll have covered a huge bunch of software on Software Freedom Day (http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2008) For the particular benefit of any visitors (or new members) Bryce Utting (http://www.wlug.org.nz/BryceUtting) will review the ones people were most interested in and kick things open for questions. This may bear a passing similarity with the 2pm session from Saturday. Note that next month's meeting is the AGM, so there won't be a presentation. Feedback from SFD will however be used to guide the November presentation.

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Software Freedom Day
by Bruce Kingsbury 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Hi all, just a quick email about software freedom day (bcc's to random people who may or may not be on the WLUG mailing list, sorry if you got this twice) Bryce is a little worried that at the moment we only have three or four people involved in SFD who really grok Free/OSS software and have a broad knowledge of what's available in various areas. So my first request is that some of the less active members and past members who are able to confidently talk to the public about Free and Open Source software do come along on SFD and give us a hand. RSVP so I know who's coming and don't have to stress about this. Or if you wanted to be more involved in SFD planning, put your hand up now! We've got less than two weeks to get everything sorted and could really use some help. I'm planning to follow up with PBTech about them lending us some nice computers for the day to demo stuff on. Alternatively, would WAND group be able to find some suitable demo machines? It might be easiest if we make use of something that's already on campus. Alternatively, we may end up relying on WLUG members to bring their personal machines. I'd rather avoid that though. Anything else that runs GNU/Linux or embedded Linux? Lindsay is hopefully providing Linksys phones and webcams for the day, and running an Asterisk PABX, hopefully we can link up with other groups during their SFD events. Also if you have a eeepc or similar linux-based 'nettop', bring it along. They're cool and we should let lots of people see how cool they are. And of course, thanks you to those who are already helping. I really hope it all comes together and we have a great SFD! -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Fwd: Wanted - Windows PCs for Software Freedom Day
by cmoman 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Wanted - Windows PCs for Software Freedom Day Date: Wednesday 17 September 2008 From: Roderick Aldridge <rod-aldridge(a)xnet.co.nz> To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Most of the PCs at SFD demonstrating Free Software will be running Linux. It would be good for the visitors, most of whom will be Windows users to be able to see software running on their familiar system. Most will want to try out Windows versions of FOSS on their PCs rather than taking the plunge and installing Linux, so if you can bring a Windows PC it will really contribute to the success of the day. Roderick Aldridge -------------------------------------------------------

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SFD now very close
by Jaco van der Merwe 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

So! The SFD is on hand We've managed to get something up, albeit a bit late in the hour, @ http://www.wharfit.co.nz/Free_Software_meetings & http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/oceania/nz/devonport (thanks, Milan). More info to be added A big thanks out to everybody who's contributed to the effort, and good luck to our gLUG piers in their SFD endeavours on Sat. Here's hoping next year's event is even bigger than this year's - Jaco _________________________________________________________________ Get the next generation of Free Windows Live Services http://get.live.com

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Re: [wlug] FW: Stuff that'd be useful on Saturday
by Chris O'Halloran 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Bryce Utting wrote: > Michael McDonald wrote: > >>> Does anyone have: >>> b) a MIDI keyboard (& a PC that'll talk to it) >>> > > anyone got a gameport-equipped Linux PC? there's plenty of ways of > generating sound from a PC given MIDI input, so no worries on that > score; plug a MIDI kbd in, plug some speakers in, and start up MuseScore > or whatever. > I have a linux box equipped with a DSP2000 (http://www.audiencedp.com/DSP2000.htm) audio/MIDI interface. It would be good for a demonstration of multi-track recording with Ardour and midi with Rosegarden, along with jack for audio routing and transport control, etc. I also have a MIDI keyboard that I use with it. I can bring it along on Saturday if you're keen. Cheers, Matt

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Software Freedom Day
by Ron Dean 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

I'll be there and would be happy to demonstrate gimp basics -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Stuff that'd be useful on Saturday
by Bryce Utting 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Does anyone have: a) a USB steering wheel b) a MIDI keyboard (& a PC that'll talk to it) c) digital video cameras (the higher quality the better, and the more the better come to that; USB-capable ideally) the first'll be good for showing off Torcs, the second for keeping any musicians' attention, the third for recording Nandor's talk. (I'm entirely happy with editing say three roughly-synced video streams on the day while being shoulder-surfed then uploading to YouTube. I tried, work's are all in Sydney.) if there's *any* chance of any of these being there on Saturday, they'd be grand. as for other instruments, I'm thinking of packing a guitar + multi- effects and bringing them in if there's anything to attach them to (and anyone interested). can't commit to my laptop being any use: Audacity will record single tracks to an empty file, but then refuses to even recognise the microphone to record any more. (bizarre, that) (this... also means that the demo Audacity file on the poster -- which, yes, really *is* tracks from a Hammond through a Leslie, a guitar, another guitar, a Hammond through a plain speaker, and a piano, all recorded wild and independently, with a drum solo stolen from the web, all sliced up randomly based on what looked pretty -- is a *truly* hellish din, not helped at all by Audacity repeatedly crashing in horror while trying to make it. I'll try not to play it too much.) butting (mad science isn't just for Christmas, you know)

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Re: [wlug] [NZOSS-OpenChat] SFD Events
by Michael McDonald 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

2008/9/17 Don <don(a)catalyst.net.nz>: > Micheal > That looks like a great event and congrats on getting Nandar in. > Cheers > Don Don't thank me! I'm not on the committee. It has been others who have been doing the work. I'll post this to WLUG also so that those who did the organising can take the kudos. Michael >> 2008/9/17 Don <don(a)catalyst.net.nz>: >> > 95bFM in Auckland want to talk about SFD. I know a lot about the >> > Wellington event but would be keen to publicise details of events >> > elsewhere in NZ. The SFD website is sorely lacking in info this year. >> > So, if you have some details please pass them on to me before 1:40 this >> > afternoon. >> > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:53 +1200, Michael McDonald wrote: >> WLUG's (Hamilton) plans are at http://wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2008

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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FLOSS Technology Feature in Waikato Times
by David Hallett 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

There is a quiet revolution going on among the world's computer users. One of the people at the heart of that revolution is New Zealand Open Source Society president Don Christie, who preached his revolutionary message to the New Zealand Computer Society at Wintec, in Hamilton. http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikatotimes/4690613a14335.html Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Preparing for SFD
by Bryce Utting 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

Hi all, The publicity's up, the word's out, the gremlins have been beaten senseless with 4x2s and the usual appalling jokes, and now it's time to get ready for the day. A quick recap (since I've lost track of what's happened on which list): * we're putting on a bunch of (short, hourly) presentations at S Block on Saturday the 20th * Nandor Tanzcos is opening * we're hoping to see a whole bunch of people wanting to know more about F/OSS software * preparations are under way to kit the place out with PCs and have them doing hopefully-interesting stuff * there's also the -tiniest- suggestion of a hint that we might be implying that we're there to help answer questions, solve problems, and help out installing stuff. The only remaining worries now are: * nobody comes * EVERYBODY comes It's the latter I'm thinking about. We need to be sure of a core of people who'll be there on the day (it doesn't have to be the whole day), who can offer expertise in areas that people might come with questions about. Know how to painlessly burn CDs? How to walk a Windows user through what's different about Gnome or KDE desktops? How to build documents in OpenOffice? How to safely camp in Tremulous? Then you can help. You don't need to be an expert: if you know enough to be useful, and also know what your limitations are, then that's enough right there to get someone started on the basics and if you hit the wall to pass them on to the next person on the list. So, after a quick chat with Bruce I figure the best way to manage this is to sign up with what we're each willing to help with. This'll mean that, in the event of things getting overwelming, we all know who we can pass thorny questions on to and who can help with triage on queues. And if we keep copies handy, we can discreetly look it up rather than relying on some dim idea that what's-'s-name-'ve-met-twice-three-months- ago might be able to answer the question of how to create a DVD menu. If that's you, adding yourself to the list will help hugely. www.wlug.org.nz/SFD%202008%20Hosts (yeah, I know. but WikiWords don't LIKE acronyms, and it's really a use-once-and-forget page anyway.) And, further to that: we can keep the day flowing, and keep people's interest, if we can be sure of spot presentations during the day. If you're comfortable with getting up front and talking for three minutes about Gimp, Firefox extensions, something weird you've done in Perl, or how Mandrake keeps your cat fed, that'd be great: add that too. These are particularly useful because it means that we can keep the technical lot fed between user-level main presentations, and the users fed in between tech-level main presentations. (and if the day -is- quiet, you might get let off the hook.) sweet as. bryce

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SFD poster: need a photo gallery from a member URGENTLY
by butting＠ihug.co.nz 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Hi all, We have the makings (I hope) of some great publicity for SFD. The banner I'm working on will hopefully be ready to print tomorrow, which you might guess is well past the original deadlines (and getting woefully close to the day itself). I've had some excellent stuff come in, but far far too late for our original plan of printing last Friday. I'd like to finish tonight, and there's one last thing I need: an online photo gallery that I can take a shot of. I don't need a screenshot, just a URL, of a gallery that you've created and own the rights to and are happy to have an image of the thumbnails of it released under creative commons with non-attrib. (the thumbnails, not the images themselves.) Something like: Something like http://softwarefreedomday.org/gallery/2007/newzealand/hamilton would be brilliant, only I've already used those images elsewhere. Can anyone help? Would be greatly appreciated. ta, Bryce

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Re: [wlug] SFD library poster: still urgently need shots!
by Bryce Utting 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

I wrote: > CURRENT NEED-URGENTLY LIST: ... > CC photos of the Symphony cluster > (can anyone get me into the Symphony lab today or tomorrow?) does anyone have phone numbers for Jamie or for Donald Neal? (or anyone else with access to the lab) or for Rod or Nandor? contact me please ASAP thanks. Bryce

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gNewSense
by Bruce Kingsbury 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

I just installed gNewSense this morning on my laptop, and I am rather plesantly surprised how useable it actually is! I have no inbuilt wireless, of course. Broadcom chipsets require a non-free binar blob so I was expecting that. My USB wireless adapter (ZyDAS WLA-54L WiFi) also doesn't work, which surprised me. It worked OOTB in Ubuntu so I had assumed it was using only Free software, but perhaps not. I'm fairly sure my rt2400 card would work with entirely free software, but I an't seem to find it at the moment. Pity. I've installed swfdec and I'm very happy to find it plays both youtube videos and weebls stuff. At least all the ones I've tried so far, which isn't many.. I'll have to try some flash games next. I've also installed all of the 'Free but patent-threatened' codecs and libdvdcss2. Apart from not having wireless, I can do pretty much everything I was doing before in Ubuntu. This rocks! -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Re: [wlug] SFD library poster: call for contributions (now URGENT)
by Bryce Utting 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Hi all, A couple of weeks ago, I wrote: > To do that, we need colourful, compelling, and useful (where applicable) > screenshots of a wide range of FOSS software. These screenshots need to > be released under Creative Commons, so we need to draw on resources > within WLUG rather than simply downloading sample screenshots. We've > got around 2.4 x 1.2 metres, so we've got real estate to burn. > > I've set up a page detailing the goals, showing the current layout > design (using, ahem, downloaded screenshots), and listing candidate > packages: > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting/wlug/contrib.html > > If you think you can offer something -- killer examples of Inkscape or > Gimp in use, Kino being used to create something lively, a Rosegarden > composition, a Mono program that looks good onscreen -- please, please, > check the page out and drop me a line. Things are looking grim, and it's causing a truckload of stress here. Deadline is *FRIDAY*, and so far I've not seen -any- final, print-ready artwork. The only contributions so far have been from just two people. Everything else has come off my bat: Impress, Kino (will be replacing with either Jahshaka or Avidemux), Firefox (pending, tho), Inkscape, MuseScore, and Torcs. I *need*: Euler, Wesnoth, Freeciv, Frets on Fire, Glest, Neverball, Flightgear, Gimp, OpenOffice Writer & Calc, and Mono (*especially* Mono). Surely someone's able to contribute? butting

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday September 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday September 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Reminder bot? Saturday workshop
by Bruce Kingsbury 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

I haven't seen any bot reminders for the Saturday workshop. Is it getting them from the wiki page or just the sidebar? Anyhow; Saturday workshop on the 6th. I'll be there. If you have stuff you'd like help with, be there too! -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Happy Birthday to GNU
by Ronnie Collinson 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

As part of GNU's 25 birthday, has released a short film featuring Stephen Fry, for those intersted here is a link<http://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu.html>. Havent watched myself yet, but will a bit later

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Getting blog on http://planet.wlug.org.nz/
by Stuart A. Yeates 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Hello My previous blog was on http://planet.wlug.org.nz/, and now I have a new blog at http://opensourceexile.blogspot.com/, could this please be added? I've moved to increase the level of geekiness by separating my photography and my dacing into separate blogs. cheers stuart

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Fixit Meeting
by Ron Dean 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Is there a fixit meeting this Saturday -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Happy Birthday to GNU!
by Bruce Kingsbury 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

http://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu-download.html -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Trash folder location...
by Chakat Sandwalker 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

I have something stuck in my Trash folder that I can't delete because root owns it. Where is the trash directory stored in Ubuntu 8.04? It was easy when it was just ~/.Trash, but I've no idea where it is now -- I can't get into trash:/// through the command line. Makes me wish there was a 'delete as root/administrator' option in the right-click context menu. Sandy

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NZCS Innovators Series Lunch: Don Christie (Hamilton) - 8 Sep 2008
by David Hallett 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

The NZ Computer Society (NZCS) is proud to announce a new monthly series of events from August to December 2008 in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Dunedin and Hamilton, bringing some of the true "Innovators of ICT" to a city near you. Register at http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3202-NZCS_Innovators_Series%3A_Don_Ch…<http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3202-NZCS_Innovators_Series%3A_Don_Ch…> This month Don Christie will be presenting his talk on "Using Open Source to Build Innovative Solutions". Don Christie will need no introduction to those in the Open Source world, but has an extremely interesting story of innovative success relevant to those in the commercial software space as well. As a founder of what is now New Zealand's largest open source solutions provider, Don is one of the first people to build a truly viable and successful commercial model in New Zealand around open source software. Don's company Catalyst IT, which was voted in NBR Magazine earlier this year as the most exciting company in New Zealand, provides significant solutions to companies such as Telecom, Fairfax, the TAB, plus a host of Government agencies. Catalyst also architected, designed and developed, host and maintain NZ Registry Service's core system, the Shared Registry System (SRS) which maintains the .nz domain space (i.e. handles all .nz internet addresses). In this intriguing presentation, come and hear what inspired Don to take his passion for Open Source to the mainstream and the hurdles he has had to overcome along the way. Don will also discuss his keys to success in turning concepts into reality, an integral step on the path of innovation. The insight presented by Don will be of huge interest to others aspiring to be the best in their field through hard work and true innovation. Don is also the organiser of the NZ Open Source Awards and president of the NZ Open Source Society. Date: 8 September 2008 Time: 12:00 PM - 1:30 PM Venue: The Hub at Wintec, City Campus, Gate 5, Tristram Street, Hamilton REGISTRATION IS ESSENTIAL: http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3202-NZCS_Innovators_Series%3A_Don_Ch…<http://nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/3202-NZCS_Innovators_Series%3A_Don_Ch…> This event will sell out in most areas, hence registration is essential. Best Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Fwd: Radio NZ
by Ian McDonald 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Linux Gaming World Editorial Manager <linuxgamingworld(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Greetings !!! To: Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Hello again, Ian, from the USA! Are you following this exciting news, about Radio New Zealand? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080821100600851 I have been helping a local radio station here, with the same: wscafm.org Hope all is well with you. Sure was great meeting you. Best regards, Matthew Craig -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/, http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Web-enabled Linksys devices using Embedded Linux

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Cloning a hard drive
by Glenn Ramsey 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Hi, I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I should be aware of? What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use dd to clone the original drive with dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb and then use gparted to resize the partitions. Seems too simple, have I missed something? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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[OT] Windows OS required
by James Pluck 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Hi all, I am looking for a copy of Windows XP (SP2 minimum) or Vista (Business or better - 64 preferred) to buy. I'm only interested in a legitimate license and media. Unfortunately I can't afford a retail version of Vista and no-one seems to have XP anymore :( If anyone has bought a pc recently and wants to offload any "Microsoft tax" that came with it I would be willing to discuss it. Please don't give me a hard time for wanting Windows. I need to rebuild my PC and there are professional and personal reasons why it's not viable for me to go Linux only. Thank you James. -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18
by Jaco van der Merwe 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

CloneZilla LiveCD ISO @ http://gpartedclonz.tuxfamily.org/ > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Daniel Lawson) > 2. Cloning a hard drive (Glenn Ramsey) > 3. Re: Cloning a hard drive (Bruce Kingsbury) > 4. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Graham lauder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:20:59 +1200 > From: Daniel Lawson <daniel(a)meta.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <EBA26160-9870-46A3-B724-27A01DDAE570(a)meta.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying > > this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading > > MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having > > been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the > > licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation > > with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the > > software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same > > applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with > > them, but that would seem logical. > > Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post): > > http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx > ... > 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the > course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have > installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA > software unless they continue taking courses from a member department. > Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License > Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the > usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the > department should periodically remind students of those conditions. > > Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual > school. > > However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for > commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to > have access to software you need for work, then this is still in > breach of the agreement. > > I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:38 +1200 > From: Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive > To: wlug <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <48ADEB26.9040300(a)componic.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots > Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I > should be aware of? > > What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use > dd to clone the original drive with > > dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb > > and then use gparted to resize the partitions. > > Seems too simple, have I missed something? > > Glenn > > -- > Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 > http://www.componic.co.nz > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:47:56 +1200 > From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <54e2f3c80808211547s3b3bdcd7vbbbaa4cef13d5d17(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2008/8/22 Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz>: > > Hi, > > > > I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots > > Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I > > should be aware of? > > > > What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use > > dd to clone the original drive with > > > > dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb > > > > and then use gparted to resize the partitions. > > > > Seems too simple, have I missed something? > > > > Glenn > > > > That would probably work, but it's not how I'd do it because it is > likely to result in your partition table being 'less than ideal' for > the new drive geometry. > > I generally create a new filesystem (with the new drive where it's > going to be permanently, and the old drive as slave). Mount the new > filesystem as '/target' and the old one as '/source', use cp -a to > copy everything over. > > Then update the UUID's in /target/boot/grub/menu.lst and > /target/etc/fstab to match the new filesystem. You can get filesystem > UUID's using the vol_id command. > > Then run grub-install --root-directory=/target. > > There may be better ways, but this works for me. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:26:20 +1200 > From: Graham lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> > Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <1219361180.1339.11.camel(a)linux-rzf3.site> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:20 +1200, Daniel Lawson wrote: > > > It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying > > > this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading > > > MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having > > > been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the > > > licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation > > > with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the > > > software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same > > > applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with > > > them, but that would seem logical. > > > > Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post): > > > > http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx > > ... > > 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the > > course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have > > installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA > > software unless they continue taking courses from a member department. > > Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License > > Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the > > usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the > > department should periodically remind students of those conditions. > > > > Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual > > school. > > True, and thanks for that link Daniel, it will be useful. I just grabbed > the first one in my search that fitted. I think the critical factor is > that a user can only continue to use it as a learning tool. If the user > is no longer an eligible user then it is unlikely that it is being used > as a learning tool.... Of course being an advocate of Lifelong > learning.... :) > > > > > However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for > > commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to > > have access to software you need for work, then this is still in > > breach of the agreement. > > > > I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now. > > > > As much as anything it shows the mess that MS licensing policies cause. > > -- > Graham Lauder, > OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ > http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html > > INGOTs Assessor Trainer > (International Grades in Office Technologies) > www.theingots.org > > Open Opportunities ltd. > Open Technologies Training and Migration Consultants > http://www.openopportunities.co.nz > http://openoffice.org > http://www.opensuse.org > > OOoGear: For the Well dressed OOo Advocate > http://ooogear.co.nz > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18 > ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces – your life, your Space. 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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Web-enabled Linksys devices using Embedded Linux

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XP [OT]
by Jaco van der Merwe 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

No worries, James I've cooked my machine(s) so frequently (hardware & software) & had endless issues with redmond, even if I prove I'm the legit owner of a licence (numerous through the years, actually), that I've now resorted to VM's (which may very well be a breach of licence, but I simply don't care any more). That way I can setup a basic system as I like it & back it up & store it. I can easily move it from machine to machine (and btw, run multiple copies, though I seldom do this; 1 is enough for my tests). If I do somethingh to blow my win, it's easy to recover _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces – your life, your Space. Click here to find out more. http://get.live.com/spaces/overview

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apologies
by Jaco van der Merwe 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I'd like to apologize to the XP user for the tine of my last message As Craig pointed out, it may have been construed as 'derogatory' (the reference to 'Windoze' as opposed to 'windows'). This could prove counter-productive... If I came across a bit strong, it was not my intent So here is the long & the short of it. win licensing is a nightmare. Best just get an old box with a licence & fly with that. For distro's, go to www.distrowatch.com This is the be-all & end-all for distro's, and here you can pick & choose from many, MANY distro's, fOSS & commercial. Even listing for retail suppliers of disks. Go with a "LiveCD" (or a liveUSB if you want) to non-destructively try the system(s) before committing. Make nifty gifts too. Go to ubuntuforums.org for 90% of you Linux (any distro) questions. Resource & links are comprehensive, most users aren't as abrasive as myself, and turnaround time is usually very quick. Just be sure to do a search on a topic before asking a question that's been covered many time before. If all else fails, bring your kit to an "install-fest" @ your next gLUG meeting, when & wherever that happens. BTW. check the channels to see about the upcoming SoftwareFreedomDay.org on the 20th Sept. That may also be a very good time to get i's crossed & t's dotted _________________________________________________________________ Tired of having no room left in your inbox? Windows Live Hotmail now gives you 5GB of FREE storage! Get your free Windows Live Hotmail account here! http://get.live.com/mail/overview

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 15
by Jaco van der Merwe 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

I think the point is being missed here. This is a LUG. It's all good & fine to keep XP around for legacy reasons, either in a VM or as a dual boot option, but there are numerous licensing pit-fall's involved. Focus on the (g)Linux (please) If you want a windoze OS, the simplest is really to go to TradeMe, and get an old busted machine. Use the rest for spares, or another home linux server (IPCop firewall? mythbuntu? torrentflux? NAS/RAS?). That way windows will basically cost you the price of shipping. (or you can be sneaky & try to lay your hands on a MSDN version; 2k is still the best) Any other option option, you simply spinning your wheels & creating more problems in the long run. I've tries to get an old XP licence from users that have 'upgraded' to vista; good luck with that one - Jaco _________________________________________________________________ It’s time to join the family - Get the next generation of Free Windows Live Services now! http://get.live.com/

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XP SP2
by David Bowen 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi How about using nLite to slipstream SP2 and even SP3 onto your disk copy? http://www.nliteos.com/ Cheers David

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SFD library poster: call for contributions
by Bryce Utting 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Hi all, I'm preparing a display that's to occupy a poster in the public library for the two weeks leading up to Software Freedom Day. The intent is to demonstrate the usefulness and attraction of FOSS software with a whoooole bunch of screenshots, grouped (transparently) around a set of categories that'll hopefully catch all comers. Ideally: someone will walk past, see a bunch of colour, see something surprising being done with (eg) OOo Writer, and think "... if I download a copy (and become awesomely talented), *I* could do that." (whether they show up at the installfest is kindof a side goal: it'd be great, but we really want people knowing what they can do with FOSS, and also knowing that it's free and that they don't need to fork out $$$ for Office, Photoshop, Unreal, Visual Studio, or whatever. and where to get it from, of course.) To do that, we need colourful, compelling, and useful (where applicable) screenshots of a wide range of FOSS software. These screenshots need to be released under Creative Commons, so we need to draw on resources within WLUG rather than simply downloading sample screenshots. We've got around 2.4 x 1.2 metres, so we've got real estate to burn. I've set up a page detailing the goals, showing the current layout design (using, ahem, downloaded screenshots), and listing candidate packages: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting/wlug/contrib.html If you think you can offer something -- killer examples of Inkscape or Gimp in use, Kino being used to create something lively, a Rosegarden composition, a Mono program that looks good onscreen -- please, please, check the page out and drop me a line. ta, Bryce

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 17 Aug '08

17 Aug '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Web-enabled Linksys devices using Embedded Linux

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Dick Smith Acer Aspire 5315 NoteBook
by Ron Dean 15 Aug '08

15 Aug '08

Has anybody had experience in setting this up with Ubuntu 8.04 The full Model Number is AS5315-201G08Mi I am thinking of buying one . I found on the web information about Aspire 5315 that it could be got to work but when I searched with the whole model number couldn't find any information. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman Interview on TV]
by Ian McDonald 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman Interview on TV From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Sat, August 9, 2008 1:50 pm To: cs-staff(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AltTV (channel 65 on Sky) Wednesday, on the programme Greencore. The show is 8pm - 8.30 but not sure when the interview will show precisely. Its about 10 mins. Steve -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Aritcle on why OLPC has failed (so far)
by Ian McDonald 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

Very interesting read here: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4472654.ece -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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[Fwd: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom?]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Here is the answer to the question regarding distribution of the RMS interview file, from the Radio NZ Webmaster. /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Webmaster <Webmaster(a)radionz.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom? Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:41:01 +1200 Hello Roger, It is covered by our standard terms of use, which essentially allows for personal use only. You can link to the audio though, provided credit of the source is given (the link is not going to expire). regards, Richard Hulse Webmaster >>> rsinel(a)bredband.net 08/09/08 8:55 PM >>> Hello, Is the interview file from the Richard Stallman freely distributable? http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20080809-0845-Richard_Stallman_Freedom… -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am]]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Bruce, I forwarded your question to Simon Bridge. See his answers below. I see that all the audio files from the saturday program http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday are in Ogg Vorbis format... but does that mean that all the files are freely distributable or just the RMS interview? /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: simon <simonbridge(a)ihug.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am] Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:26:54 +1200 Roger Sinel wrote: > Hi Simon, a few of us from WLUG are wondering if Radio NZ meant that the > interview Ogg Vorbis files will be freely distributable? > > I just thought you might be in the know about this. > > Simon Bridge wrote: that's our understanding. > /Roger Sinel > > > Mvh > Roger Sinel > roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com > www.nordickiwi.com > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Reply-To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at > 8.12am > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:27:10 +1200 > > >> Hi there, >> >> FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow >> morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. >> >> Saturday Morning >> with Kim Hill >> Saturday, 8am - Midday >> > > Just finished listening to this (via a propriatory MS streaming format ;) > > Not a bad interview, and at the end they mentioned it will also be > available as an Ogg Vorbis file. They didn't mention if it would be > freely re distributable though, which I think would be just as > important as the format it's released in. > Simon Bridge wrote: Yes - rms was clear about this. The website should be specifying a cc licence > _______________________________________________ > > + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc > + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7 > > -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am
by Peter Reutemann 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marieke Boleyn <mboleyn(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:36 PM Subject: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am Hi there, FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. Saturday Morning with Kim Hill Saturday, 8am - Midday Guest details for Saturday Morning 9 August 2008 8:12 Richard Stallman Richard Stallman is a software freedom activist and developer. In 1983 he announced the project to develop the GNU operating system, a Unix-like operating system meant to be entirely free software, and has been the project's leader ever since. He is visiting New Zealand for a range of engagements and events from 6 to 12 August to help promote the use, dissemination and ideals of free software.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5
by Jaco van der Merwe 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

I have some mates in SA, some with a bit of Linux experience, but more the C's, who are looking to come here. If you don't find somebody, pm me - Jaco > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C) > 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (Peter Reutemann) > 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (James Pluck) > 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200 > From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi there > > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? > > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… > > Thanks for your time :) > > Marcela > _________________________________________________________________ > Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7… >

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Re: [wlug] Job description
by Marcela Sierra C 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Hi Sorry, Shannon, I can't discuss the job here for business reasons but I am happy to discuss who the role is with if you call me on 09 302 7023 or 0212733300; if you send through your CV (whether you ultimately decide to ask us to put you forward or not), I can send you the job description and discuss the pay rate with you. Unfortunately, we have been experiencing technical difficulties with our email at the moment, which is why I have subscribed to the mailing list through my hotmail address, but you can either apply directly through www.seek.co.nz or send your CV to me at marcela(a)absoluteit.co.nz or ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com. Thanks for your interest; I appreciate you taking the time to consider the role. Kind regards, Marcela> From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200> > Send wlug mailing list submissions to> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > You can reach the person managing the list at> wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C)> 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (Peter Reutemann)> 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (James Pluck)> 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200> From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com>> Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hi there> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> > Thanks for your time :)> > Marcela> _________________________________________________________________> Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/8b06e689/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:59:16 +1200> From: "Peter Reutemann" <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz>> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <548e07050808062059p5bbef080lde597b8b9cc47164(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Hi there> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> > Cheers, Peter> > ---------------------------------------------------> SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> ----------------------------------------------------> Title: Copyright vs Community> Speaker: Richard Stallman> > Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> > Abstract:> Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> direction.> > Biography:> Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> > -- > Marieke Boleyn> Academic Support Officer> Department of Computer Science> The University of Waikato> Phone: 07 838 4911> Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:32:06 +1200> From: "James Pluck" <papabearnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <69dff2130808062132t30acecf0y3173995ef3e8fbb5(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I've printed several of these out to pin up round the noticeboards at the> Hospital.> > J> > > On 8/7/08, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:> >> > Hi there> >> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> >> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> > taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> > http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> >> > Cheers, Peter> >> > ---------------------------------------------------> > SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> > ----------------------------------------------------> > Title: Copyright vs Community> > Speaker: Richard Stallman> >> > Seminar Flyer:> > http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> >> > Abstract:> > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> >> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> > suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> > serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> > for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> > direction.> >> > Biography:> > Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> > founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> > and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> > several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> >> > --> > Marieke Boleyn> > Academic Support Officer> > Department of Computer Science> > The University of Waikato> > Phone: 07 838 4911> > Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> > > > -- > James Pluck> PalmOS Ergo Sum> "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription.> Please remove my name from your mailing list..."> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/60308c84/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:23:51 +1200> From: "Shannon Skinner" <shannonsnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <d0b0f8450808070323h42122625hba6dbf3bfa9e5d51(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > This is just a stab in the dark here, but is that job for Fonterra?> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Hi there> >> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript> > experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally> > negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd> > love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates> > in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> >> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate.> > Please take a look at my ad for more info:> >> > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> >> > Thanks for your time :)> >> > Marcela> >> > ________________________________> > MSN NZ Travel Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next> > holiday online with> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> wlug mailing list> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> ************************************ _________________________________________________________________ Buy, rent, invest property online today. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eallrealestate%2Eco%2E…

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$250 Reward offered
by Marcela Sierra C 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… Thanks for your time :) Marcela _________________________________________________________________ Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…

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Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community
by Peter Reutemann 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university. Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is taking place in room 01 on the ground floor): http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/ Cheers, Peter --------------------------------------------------- SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01 ---------------------------------------------------- Title: Copyright vs Community Speaker: Richard Stallman Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf Abstract: Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress, for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other direction. Biography: Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received several awards and honorary doctorates for his work. -- Marieke Boleyn Academic Support Officer Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Phone: 07 838 4911 Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz

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OpenOffice 2.4 review
by Ian McDonald 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/applications/soa/OpenOffice-org-2-… After last time commenting on OO I will refrain from it this time... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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RMS in the press.
by Bruce Kingsbury 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0064FE274A08BA2CCC25749A00383CB3 Richard Stallman will be speaking at Waikato University, 6pm Aug 20th. No idea where yet, but I've been told Marieke is onto it so hopefully I'll know soon. Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright -- to promote progress, for the benefit of the public -- then we must make changes in the other direction.

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NZCS Innovators Series Lunch: Rod Drury (Hamilton) - 11 August 2008
by David Hallett 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

The NZ Computer Society (NZCS) is proud to announce a new monthly series of events from August to December 2008 in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Dunedin and Hamilton, bringing some of the true "Innovators of ICT" to a city near you. Register at http://nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/event.asp?SECT=waikato_bop&ID=3131 First up on the 11th of August is the Society's newest Honorary Fellow (HFNZCS) and well known ICT entrepreneur Rod Drury, his presentation entitled: "Succeeding in NZ - What is Innovation, anyway?" Rod really needs no introduction. He exploded onto the ICT scene in New Zealand in 1995 when he founded Glazier Systems, which was subsequently bought by Advantage Group to become well-known ICT solutions company Intergen. He then created AfterMail, an Exchange product later sold to American company Quest Software for an 8-figure sum and judged the "Best Exchange Product" at TechEd 2006 in Boston. Not yet done, he then created well-known NZX-listed Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) accounting company Xero which is changing the way small businesses do accounting in New Zealand Free for NZCS members and inexpensive for non-members. Light Lunch Included Date: 11 August 2008 Time: 12:00 PM - 1:30 PM Venue: The Hub at Wintec, City Campus, Gate 5, Tristram Street, Hamilton REGISTRATION IS ESSENTIAL: http://nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/event.asp?SECT=waikato_bop&ID=3131 This event will sell out in most areas, hence registration is essential. Best Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Theme deletion...
by Chakat Sandwalker 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Is it possible to delete appearance theme customisations (i.e. icons, controls, window border, etc.) that the user has installed manually (say, from www.gnome-look.org) but the Appearance applet refuses to delete? I've installed a number of themes/customisations that I can't delete because the 'Delete' button is greyed out. As a result I have a glut of entries to choose from, most of which I don't want any more. Sandy

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday August 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Converting a hard drive from ext3 to fat32
by Ron Dean 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Is it possible to convert the above. I have already backed it up to another drive. After I format it in Partition Magic What commands do I issue to re mount it . -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday August 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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KDE 4.1 released
by Ian McDonald 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Starting to look better. Have a look at: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up?
by Bruce Kingsbury 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Anybody want to organise a carpool to Auckland? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Apperley <m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: 2008/7/21 Subject: Re: Stallman stalling - do we give up? To: Steve Reeves <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>, Bruce Kingsbury < zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz>, Tony McGregor <tonym(a)waikato.ac.nz> I've notified Simon Bridge that we are unable to host a Stallman talk on the Saturday, as we would not be able to raise a credible audience. Disappointed fans will have to go to the Auckland talk. Mark ======================================================== Professor Mark Apperley m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Department of Computer Science University of Waikato phone: +64 7 838 4528 NEW ZEALAND fax: +64 7 838 4155 ======================================================== -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Jul '08

27 Jul '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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Re: [wlug] Geek meets closer to home
by David Bowen 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi Jaco Check out the Aucklug http://auckland.linux.net.nz/ and the mailing list http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug I am on their mailing list but haven't managed to catch them in the flesh yet. Cheers David

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NZ mirrors
by Jaco van der Merwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi folks, Couple of questions: 1. I'm on the WorldExchange/XNet network. Traffic local to the XN nw does not count towards my (75G) cap. Are there any Uni's or FTP mirors available for Ubuntu/Deb & other distro's on the XN new? 2. I live & work in Auckland City & travelling out to Waikato on a scooter is problematic, to say the least. Are there any other geek-meets closer to home? Thanks - Jaco _________________________________________________________________ Tired of having no room left in your inbox? Windows Live Hotmail now gives you 5GB of FREE storage! Get your free Windows Live Hotmail account here! http://get.live.com/mail/overview

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 205, Issue 17
by Jaco van der Merwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Thanks for the info, Lindsay, but I already use citylink as a tries & tested source. The problem is that xnet traffic does not count towards my cap, so any resources on the 'local network' is 'free' I've already put in a request to the sysadmin for ftp.wicks.co.nz, but he's indicated that he simply doesn't have the space. Uni's seem my best bet Thanks anyhow -J > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 205, Issue 17 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:00:06 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NZ mirrors (Jaco van der Merwe) > 2. Re: NZ mirrors (Lindsay Druett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:11:14 +0200 > From: Jaco van der Merwe <freakalad(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] NZ mirrors > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY116-W48D9A47146095A55CCD7B1BC850(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi folks, > > Couple of questions: > 1. I'm on the WorldExchange/XNet network. Traffic local to the XN nw does not count towards my (75G) cap. > Are there any Uni's or FTP mirors available for Ubuntu/Deb & other distro's on the XN new? > 2. I live & work in Auckland City & travelling out to Waikato on a scooter is problematic, to say the least. > Are there any other geek-meets closer to home? > > Thanks > > - Jaco > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of having no room left in your inbox? Windows Live Hotmail now gives you 5GB of FREE storage! Get your free Windows Live Hotmail account here! > http://get.live.com/mail/overview >

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up?
by rsinel＠bredband.net 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Sad to here that Richard Stallmans offer to speak in Hamilton was not taken up. I've must have missjudged amount of "Free Software" user's in my old hometown when i talked to Richard about the possabilaty of doing a talk in Hamilton. /Roger Sinel ---- Original message ---- From: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> Sent: 20 Jul 2008 14:58 -07:00 To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up? Anybody want to organise a carpool to Auckland? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Apperley <m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: 2008/7/21 Subject: Re: Stallman stalling - do we give up? To: Steve Reeves <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>, Bruce Kingsbury < zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz>, Tony McGregor <tonym(a)waikato.ac.nz> I've notified Simon Bridge that we are unable to host a Stallman talk on the Saturday, as we would not be able to raise a credible audience. Disappointed fans will have to go to the Auckland talk. Mark ======================================================== Professor Mark Apperley m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Department of Computer Science University of Waikato phone: +64 7 838 4528 NEW ZEALAND fax: +64 7 838 4155 ======================================================== -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them. ----  Sent using a Sony Ericsson mobile phone

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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RMS visit. Who would turn up?
by Bruce Kingsbury 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

Just wondering. If CompSci were to host a talk by Richard Stallman (proposed Sat 9th August, early evening) who would definitely turn up for it? WLUG cannot organise this. RMS refuses to have anything to do with LUGS. CompSci are considering it, but don't think that 100 or more people will turn up. I have no idea how much (or how little) interest there actually is in this presentation. Show of hands? -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Useful blogs/websites
by Daniel Lawson 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hey guys Thought I'd point out a couple of useful websites that have been collecting in my rss reader http://www.debian-administration.org/ often has some useful posts on it. Yes, it's Debian focussed, which also means it mostly applies to Ubuntu as well, but a lot of the stuff that comes up applies to all distros just as readily. For example, the author is currently trying to run a daily series of "Commands you might have missed", covering off simple utilities like pstree and watch that a lot of people don't know about. http://debaday.debian.net/ tries to cover off a Debian Package of the Day, however the author struggle for content to keep it going at that rate. Still comes up with some useful entries at least twice a week. http://www.debuntu.org/ is a Debian and Ubuntu tips and tricks page. The OpenSource Toolbox at http://ostoolbox.blogspot.com/ covers a wider range of projects and platforms than the above http://www.linuxdevices.com/ is a site dedicated to embedded devices and platforms that interoperate or run linux (and other free or open platforms I think) If you're interested in following kernel developments, then www.kerneltrap.org and www.kernelplanet.org might be interesting to you. The former is a meta-discussion of what's going on in the linux kernel mailing list, and the latter is an aggregation of various kernel developers blogs, so quite often has a lot of other random stuff in it. And of course, there's the WLUG wiki at http://www.wlug.org.nz and Planet WLUG at http://planet.wlug.org.nz/, if you didn't know about them already :) Daniel

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Laptop Query
by James Pluck 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi all! Does anyone know if the below laptop will work ok under Linux (I'm thinking Ubuntu Hardy) I am looking for a lappy to use as a general portable workhorse for checking mail and a LAMP/AJAX/Ruby etc coding platform. I'm keeping the desktop as a games machine but want something I can take with me to the library, etc for quiet time coding or whatever. J -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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Big Buck Bunny builds a better Blender
by Bruce Kingsbury 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Thought this might be of interest to the list, particularly after covering the Blender software and BBB movie at John's presentation. *Big Buck Bunny* is the colorful product of the Peach<http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/>open movie project: an animated short released online and on DVD. But in addition to the 'toon itself, Peach has produced an altogether different yield: improvements to the Blender <http://www.blender.org/> 3-D modeling application. Like its predecessor Project Orange<http://orange.blender.org/>, Peach pushed the open source tool forward with the demands of a real-world media production, in a way that hobbyist usage cannot. http://www.linux.com/feature/139454 -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Open-source laptop tracking system for laptops
by Michael McDonald 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Interested to see this open source solution being promoted ... New service tracks missing laptops for free Researchers have developed a free open-source laptop tracking system for laptops By Robert McMillan San Francisco | Tuesday, 15 July, 2008 Lose your laptop these days and you lose part of your life: You say good-bye to photos, music and personal documents that cannot be replaced, and if it's a work computer, you may be the source of a very public data breach. http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/EC980DF9A9B079E6CC257486006F02AC Michael

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waikato imap
by Justin Hyde 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

I had similar problems and only got it to work after changing the password. AFAIK this is only possible from off-campus, blocked ports on-campus and can't go through proxy server. Cheers > hey, it works ;) the problem was the synchronisation of password. I > changed it, went to the UnlockChapta Link. And that's it! > Big Thanx to everyone for your support. > > Colin Palmer wrote: > >* On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:53 +1200, Ivo Senner wrote: > *>* > *>>* So this is my first question: I've tried to setup an imap account for > *>>* my university address at thunderbird. But everytime I trying to > *>>* connect to imap.gmail.com i get the message "Invalid credentials > *>>* (Failure)". While searching in google for a solution I can only find > *>>* the notice to activate IMAP at webmail. That was the first thing i've > *>>* done. Does anyone know something about this behaviour? or how to setup > *>>* the imap-account correctly? > *>>* > *>* > *>* The ITS service desk are the best people to ask about this, since some > *>* of the details are UoW specific. However most of what you need to know > *>* is here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662 > *>* > *>* Things to note: > *>* > *>* - SSL/port 993 is compulsory, standard IMAP won't work. > *>* - Your IMAP username is <user>@students.waikato.ac.nz > *>* - Your password should be the same as your UoW one, but may not be > *>* sychronised, especially if you've never used > *>* https://tools.its.waikato.ac.nz/cgi-bin/changepw so go there and set a > *>* new password. > *>* - It's easy to lock yourself out by entering the wrong password too many > *>* times, so you may need to visit > *>* https://www.google.com/a/students.waikato.ac.nz/UnlockCaptcha before > *>* trying again. This will confirm the new password you just set works. > *>* > *>* > * > >

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waikato imap
by Ivo Senner 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

hey guys, I'm new at the UoW and also at this mailinglist ;) If someone is interested in this: I'm from Germany, 22 years old, using archlinux and (at my workstation at home) gentoo. So this is my first question: I've tried to setup an imap account for my university address at thunderbird. But everytime I trying to connect to imap.gmail.com i get the message "Invalid credentials (Failure)". While searching in google for a solution I can only find the notice to activate IMAP at webmail. That was the first thing i've done. Does anyone know something about this behaviour? or how to setup the imap-account correctly? Thanx and greatz, Ivo

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SA govt to rig buses for free internet
by Michael McDonald 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

Interesting plans for buses in South Australia ... SA govt to rig buses for free internet The South Australian Government is planning to offer free internet on the state's public transport system to make it more appealing to use — but it needs to find a hardware vendor and ISP willing to install the technology first. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/SA-govt-to-rig-buses-for-free-int… Michael

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Fwd: FW: Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington]
by Chris O'Halloran 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

-----Original Message----- From: Roger Sinel [mailto:roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 6:54 a.m. To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] Richard Stallman has already offered to come to Waikato University during his August visit to NZ and do a talk, I talked to him in the 26th of febuary this year in Stockholm Sweden about it. http://nordickiwi.no-ip.com/blog/?p=109 I'd like to know if the arrangements where ever finalized? I posted this offer from Richard on this list. Does anyone know if Richard Stallman will actually talk in Hamilton? /Roger -----Original Message----- From: Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Reply-To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:23:27 +1200 Please see below - hopefully someone will pick this up from the committee. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ian McDonald <iam4(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:21 AM Subject: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman visiting Wellington From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Wed, July 9, 2008 12:29 pm To: cs-lecturers(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if he's got time to come up here again? Would someone in WLUG be able to get something arranged? Steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Green Party <greenparty(a)greens.org.nz> > Date: 9 July 2008 12:10:46 GMT+12:00 > To: "dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz" <dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz>, IT Commitee <IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > >, nandor(a)greens.org.nz > Subject: [IT] [Fwd: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington] > Reply-To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz, Information Technology <it(a)lists.greens.org.nz > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:09:24 +1200 > From: Peter Lambrechtsen <plambrechtsen(a)gmail.com> > To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > CC: don(a)catalyst.net.nz > > Hello > > As per our conversation, Richard Stallman who is the founder of GNU > (www.gnu.org) and the GPL License, and is the authority on Free > Software and is a passionate speaker on such topics. He will be in > Wellington from the 13th until the 17th of August. > > A brief bio of Richard Stallman: > > Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system > (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the > freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes > either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU > operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of > computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a > MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's > Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic > Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates. > > > I know Nandor Tanczos had an interest about Linux and Free Software > and was interested in contacting him directly. > > I will be organising his itinerary and main point of contact during > his visit to Wellington and was interested in if the Greens were > interested in a meeting / presentation or some media event with him. > > Please either e-mail me back, or call me on 04 470 5540 or 0272 905 > 735 and we can talk further. > > Kind regards. > > Peter Lambrechtsen > > -- > Michael Pringle > National Administrator > Green Party > PO Box 11 652 > Wellington > Phone 04 801 5102 > Fax 04 801 5104 > Mobile 021 119 6714 > greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > www.greens.org.nz > > _______________________________________________ > IT mailing list > IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > http://tui.greens.org.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/it ******************************************************** Professor Steve Reeves Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Hamilton 3240 New Zealand Tel: +64 7 838 4398 Fax: +64 7 858 5095 Email: stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Web: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~stever -- ?Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington]
by Ian McDonald 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Please see below - hopefully someone will pick this up from the committee. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ian McDonald <iam4(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:21 AM Subject: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman visiting Wellington From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Wed, July 9, 2008 12:29 pm To: cs-lecturers(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if he's got time to come up here again? Would someone in WLUG be able to get something arranged? Steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Green Party <greenparty(a)greens.org.nz> > Date: 9 July 2008 12:10:46 GMT+12:00 > To: "dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz" <dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz>, IT Commitee <IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > >, nandor(a)greens.org.nz > Subject: [IT] [Fwd: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington] > Reply-To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz, Information Technology <it(a)lists.greens.org.nz > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:09:24 +1200 > From: Peter Lambrechtsen <plambrechtsen(a)gmail.com> > To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > CC: don(a)catalyst.net.nz > > Hello > > As per our conversation, Richard Stallman who is the founder of GNU > (www.gnu.org) and the GPL License, and is the authority on Free > Software and is a passionate speaker on such topics. He will be in > Wellington from the 13th until the 17th of August. > > A brief bio of Richard Stallman: > > Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system > (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the > freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes > either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU > operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of > computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a > MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's > Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic > Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates. > > > I know Nandor Tanczos had an interest about Linux and Free Software > and was interested in contacting him directly. > > I will be organising his itinerary and main point of contact during > his visit to Wellington and was interested in if the Greens were > interested in a meeting / presentation or some media event with him. > > Please either e-mail me back, or call me on 04 470 5540 or 0272 905 > 735 and we can talk further. > > Kind regards. > > Peter Lambrechtsen > > -- > Michael Pringle > National Administrator > Green Party > PO Box 11 652 > Wellington > Phone 04 801 5102 > Fax 04 801 5104 > Mobile 021 119 6714 > greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > www.greens.org.nz > > _______________________________________________ > IT mailing list > IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > http://tui.greens.org.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/it ******************************************************** Professor Steve Reeves Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Hamilton 3240 New Zealand Tel: +64 7 838 4398 Fax: +64 7 858 5095 Email: stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Web: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~stever -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Ubuntu 8.10 features
by Ian McDonald 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

Good article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080629-horny-for-ubuntu-8-10-first-l… I also like the links to NetworkManager blogs - looks like it will finally be useful, rather than annoying. I like the idea of sharing your 3G card easily.... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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hugin panoramas
by John Billings 28 Jun '08

28 Jun '08

I posted my slides and the panorama image I created from the pictures I took at the meeting last week: http://wlug.org.nz/JohnBillings The Hugin interface is pretty easy to use. I added the two pictures and it assembled them and ouput a .tif image. I opened that up in GIMP and cropped it a bit, there were some gray areas that hugin left around the sides. Then used GIMP to convert it to a .jpg image. If you want to see the full size image it's at: http://nimhq.net/wlug-hugin-example.jpg You can see the seam where the two images were joined by the exit sign, but I thought it did a pretty good job. Think it is really best for scenery shots of course, so I dug through some old photos, and found a couple shots out at Maunganui I could join: http://nimhq.net/maunganui-1.jpg http://nimhq.net/maunganui-2.jpg Resulting in: http://nimhq.net/maunganui-hugin.jpg Thought I'd share my experiment. Best, John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Jun '08

22 Jun '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Gnu/Linux Graphics Software Roundup" John Billings will talk about some of the graphics software available in Linux, including (but not limited to) the GIMP, Inkscape, and Blender.

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In the news today
by Ian McDonald 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Someone from Microsoft says that ODF has won: http://www.osnews.com/story/19892 and that Java is now available 100% free (with help of RedHat/IcedTea): http://www.osnews.com/story/19892 -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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WINE is 1 yo - Happy Birthday Wine!
by James Pluck 18 Jun '08

18 Jun '08

(I'm probably out of date with this...) http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147212/wine_pops_its_cork_aft… -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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fedora 9 and -lglib
by stephen pearce 16 Jun '08

16 Jun '08

Hi I'm trying to compile the source version of Lazarus .. which is a gui ide for the free pascal compiler (object pascal which is almost identical to delphi) ... on a fedora 9 installation. FPC compiles ok .. you have to get the binary initially to bootstrap compile the source distro of the fpc compiler) ... lazarus compiles ok but aborts on linking with a message saying it cannot link to -lglib. I got the source for glib and compiled and installed this .. but lazarus gave the same error. I was originally running the amd 64 bit version of fedora .. x86-64 .. but reinstalled the i386 version .. with no change (rather frustrated by now) ...I then tried seaching the makefiles and other installation stuff looking for libglib references .. without any luck to date ... though libglib v 2 is in /usr/lib I am vaguely aware that the fedora library comformation is a bit differenct to debian but don't know the details nor of a simple way to spoff software looking in the debian places to cope with the fedora conformation .. has anyone any experience along these lines or other thoughts on this Thanks -- Stephen Pearce Whangarei

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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Mail client difficulty
by Graham Lauder 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

This one is driving me a bit batty at the moment. I've been using KMail up till now but the addressbook has a flaky UI which is frustrating and nonintuitive to say the least and there are one or two other issues that have caused me problems with lost mails and such. Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed? -- Graham Lauder, ******************************************** The Best things come in 3 http://why.openoffice.org ******************************************** OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org

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help testing the Māori language spell checker for thunderbird and firefox
by Stuart A. Yeates 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Hello everyone It's not linux, but Kiharoa, who puts together the Māori language spell checker for thunderbird and firefox, needs some urgent testing and feedback so it makes the grade for getting into the next release. The URL is: http://kiharoa.dear.maori.nz/2008/06/still-looking-for-volunteers/ cheers stuart

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