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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kiaora DVD The Kiaora Project was started in 2005 by Bruce Kingsbury, as an alternative to similar CDs like TheOpenCD which were a good idea but left out many things, such as dictionaries and clipart for OpenOffice, rubber stamps for Tux Paint, and controversial software such as VLC (some codecs covered by patents) and emule (p2p == piracy?) It project was mostly abandoned by 2007 and the kiaoracd domain given to Cairo to use as a 'download and burn' store for Free software in general.. The project was revived for Software Freedom Day 2010 and may continue to live as Kiaora DVD. Plans for the future include having a proper disk browser and program launcher, better presentation with program icons, screenshots, and links to addons and documentation, and repackaging some of the software which is currently distributed with 'toolbars' and other crap (or at the very least the default for installing such toolbars will be changed to 'off') Other possibilities; a directory of sample documents, and a collection of PDF manuals for some of the software. Volunteers who can repackage software with nullsoft or similar tools, track down or redraw SVG versions of icons, and take interesting screenshots would be greatly appreciated. September 27th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kiaora DVD The Kiaora Project was started in 2005 by Bruce Kingsbury, as an alternative to similar CDs like TheOpenCD which were a good idea but left out many things, such as dictionaries and clipart for OpenOffice, rubber stamps for Tux Paint, and controversial software such as VLC (some codecs covered by patents) and emule (p2p == piracy?) It project was mostly abandoned by 2007 and the kiaoracd domain given to Cairo to use as a 'download and burn' store for Free software in general.. The project was revived for Software Freedom Day 2010 and may continue to live as Kiaora DVD. Plans for the future include having a proper disk browser and program launcher, better presentation with program icons, screenshots, and links to addons and documentation, and repackaging some of the software which is currently distributed with 'toolbars' and other crap (or at the very least the default for installing such toolbars will be changed to 'off') Other possibilities; a directory of sample documents, and a collection of PDF manuals for some of the software. Volunteers who can repackage software with nullsoft or similar tools, track down or redraw SVG versions of icons, and take interesting screenshots would be greatly appreciated. September 27th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Using a laptop as an access point
by Glenn Ramsey 19 Sep '10

19 Sep '10

Hi all, Does anyone know if there is an easy way to configure a wireless card as an access point in Kubuntu 8.04? (I don't really want to go through the carnage of an upgrade at this stage) I found these instructions: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3096387.0 but they involve a lot of manual settings. I think I read somewhere on my searches that the in recent versions of Ubuntu you can do this by selecting an option in Network Manager. Ideally something like that is what I am looking for. Cheers Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 09 9735603 http://www.componic.co.nz

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Sep '10

19 Sep '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kiaora DVD The Kiaora Project was started in 2005 by Bruce Kingsbury, as an alternative to similar CDs like TheOpenCD which were a good idea but left out many things, such as dictionaries and clipart for OpenOffice, rubber stamps for Tux Paint, and controversial software such as VLC (some codecs covered by patents) and emule (p2p == piracy?) It project was mostly abandoned by 2007 and the kiaoracd domain given to Cairo to use as a 'download and burn' store for Free software in general.. The project was revived for Software Freedom Day 2010 and may continue to live as Kiaora DVD. Plans for the future include having a proper disk browser and program launcher, better presentation with program icons, screenshots, and links to addons and documentation, and repackaging some of the software which is currently distributed with 'toolbars' and other crap (or at the very least the default for installing such toolbars will be changed to 'off') Other possibilities; a directory of sample documents, and a collection of PDF manuals for some of the software. Volunteers who can repackage software with nullsoft or similar tools, track down or redraw SVG versions of icons, and take interesting screenshots would be greatly appreciated. September 27th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] Software Freedom Day 2010... advertisement?
by Sam Lin 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

I think the user group could have made use of many other resources such as Facebook or Tweet etc. I have circulated an event advertisement (see below) to my department in university and friends (some of which is working at HCC). Let's see how many of them will show up. ========= Advert from here ============ This Saturday sees Hamilton's very own Software Freedom Day (SFD) event. An annual worldwide event since 2004, SFD is designed to be both a celebration of free software's successes and a public education effort to help further its acceptance. It has a fairly impressive sponsor and partner list, including Google, Canonical, Sun, the FSF, and more Organised by the Waikato Linux User Group (WLUG), the open day will feature volunteers showing visitors the extent of open source software and its capabilities. Internationally, the goal of Software Freedom Day is to educate the worldwide public about the benefits of using high quality Free and Open Source Software (FOSS / FLOSS) in education, in government, at home, and in business. In Hamilton this event was once held at Waikato University in 2008, and this year we will be at Centreplace near Whitcouls all this Saturday from 9am to 5pm. We will have a couple tables w/ 4-5 workstations setup running all the popular programs including GIMP/Inkscape. We will have a new “Kiaora DVD 10.09” which we will be giving out (a collection of Free software for Windows similar to The OpenDisc). We will also have some Ubuntu cds and some WLUG brochures. We may possibly have some demonstrations about how general public can make use of FLOSS in their daily life. For further information regarding SFD, please see the attached poster and the SFD website: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ Please feel free to stop by, try out, hang out and talk to people about FLOSS. ========== to here ============= Regards, Sam

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Software Freedom Day 2010... advertisement?
by Sam Lin 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

Now that it's 2 days left to Software Freedom Day 2010, are there any flyer from the user group to provide so that I could inform my friends of SFD? (Am I wrong or there just isn't any advertisement regarding SFD in Hamilton city or even in the university? Even I am not quite sure what exactly will be happening through that day...) Regards, Sam

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Cairo cross compile
by Giriprasad Deviprasad 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Hi All, I configured cairo successfully, but when I do make, it gives the foll errors : cairo-scaled-font-subsets.c: In function '_cairo_scaled_font_subset_create_glyph_names': cairo-scaled-font-subsets.c:1015: error: implicit declaration of function '_cairo_utf8_to_utf16' cairo-scaled-font-subsets.c:1015: warning: nested extern declaration of '_cairo_utf8_to_utf16' make[3]: *** [cairo-scaled-font-subsets.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/playhome/cairo-1.8.10/src' Any ideas why? Thanks & Regards, D.Giriprasad

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A new distro for those that can't help tinkering - Peppermint
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

http://peppermintos.com/ It has some lineage with Linux Mint http://linuxmint.com/ Peppermint is linux distro aimed at those users who like to use web apps and 'the cloud' for more of their computing needs. I've had a little play with it in a virtual machine and it boots pretty fast. Those with netbooks might like it Chris.

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Linux installation server
by Narender 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Hi i want to setup a linux installation server for quick build of linux machines in network. what i found on google was Kickstart and cobbler. https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6747/ Can someone please suggest best way to automate the installation. Have anyone test cobbler, please give reviews. Best Regards --N

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Software Freedom Day 2010
by John Billings 11 Sep '10

11 Sep '10

SFD is one week away. You are invited to come visit us next Saturday at Centreplace. Just stop by and say hi, or stay awhile and talk to the public about why you use Free and Open Source Software. We have most things sorted for our demonstration, but could use one or two more workstations w/ LCD or Laptops. I've updated the page here with where we are at so far: http://wlug.org.nz/sfd Feel free to update the wiki, or let me know if you can loan us anything for the day. Also if you plan to attend, you can register at the Software Freedom Day NZ site here: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org.nz/Hamilton That's another way we will know who's coming. See you there. Best, John

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Cairo cross compile
by Giriprasad Deviprasad 11 Sep '10

11 Sep '10

Hi All, I am trying to cross compile GTK+ in hawkboard (www.hawkboard.org) I have already cross compiled the following successfully for hawkboard: atk fontconfig freetype glib libxml2 pixman Now when I try to cross compile cairo, configure gives the following error: configure: error: Cairo requires at least one font backend. Please install freetype and fontconfig, then try again: But, I have already installed both freetype and fontconfig for this architecture. ls -l /opt/asdlab/freetype/lib total 2640 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2688158 2010-09-03 20:08 libfreetype.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 764 2010-09-03 20:08 libfreetype.la drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-09-03 20:08 pkgconfig [root(a)localhost cairo-1.6.4]# ls -l /opt/asdlab/freetype/include total 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-09-03 20:08 freetype2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3890 2010-09-03 20:08 ft2build.h ls -l /opt/asdlab/fontconfig/lib/ total 776 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 778546 2010-09-04 19:28 libfontconfig.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 922 2010-09-04 19:28 libfontconfig.la drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-09-04 19:28 pkgconfig Any ideas why cairo is not cross compiling? Thanks & Regards, D.Giriprasad

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Any one advise on SOx handsets
by Gregory Machin 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Hi I have been give a bunch of Tennyson SOX model 370 handsets to figure out how they work..... lol ... Does anyone have a manual for them or any technical info ? Thanks Gregory Machin -- - TLA - three letter acronym ... - We are loosing the art of comunication through progress.. Proverbs 27:17 (New International Version) 17 As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 230, Issue 13
by Sam Lin 06 Sep '10

06 Sep '10

Perhaps we can arrange a computer or two to demonstrate (or even tutor) how general public can make use of FLOSS in their daily life/work? For instance, use the GIMP or Inkscape to draw some pictures/icons and edit their photographs (somewhat like street performance so as to attract people to come over SFD). Regards, Sam > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:24:38 +1200 > From: John Billings <john(a)nimhq.net> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Software Freedom Day progress > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikEWc+f0rT=RALSarX_EsYT89PhAOMCNdsWCoMh(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I've restored this page from what I found in the google cache: > > http://wlug.org.nz/sfd > > I'm assuming we have a workshop on 4th September, might be good to > post something on the new wiki about it, and use that day to plan for > SFD. > > Best, > John >

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Saturday Workshop 2010-09-04
by Bruce Kingsbury 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

Saturday 4th September SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, light lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment. Also we're paying a little extra for hall and internet now, so a gold coin donation to help cover these costs would be greatly appreciated.

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Software Freedom Day progress
by Bruce Kingsbury 28 Aug '10

28 Aug '10

We need to update the information on softwarefreedomday.org and softwarefreedomday.org.nz We've still got a bit of organising to do regarding tables, displays, things to hand out. kiaora dvd is mostly done using the same system-browser autorun as the 2006 cd. I'd still like to clean up the html templates a lot and use the k-meleon cd browser kit, but if we had to it's nearly good enough to hand out as-is. Just a few zips still need to be converted to exe installers and a bit of general tidy-up. 1.7GB of software, plenty of room to add more. Here's the program list. Let me know of anything you think should be added. Office OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 OpenProj 1.4 Scribus 1.3.8 gnucash 2.2.9 Internet firefox 3.6.8 thunderbird 3.1.2 filezilla 3.3.4 emule 0.50a winhttrack 3.43-9C pidgin 2.7.3 Graphics The GIMP 2.6.10 Inkscape 0.47 Pencil 0.4.4b Blender 2.49b Media audacity 1.2.6 Camstudio 2.0 cdEX 1.70b4 DVD slideshow GUI 0.9.3.8 DVD Styler 1.8.1 Handbrake 0.9.4 VirtualDub 1.9.9 VLC media player 1.1.2 Education Alice 2.0 stellarium 0.10.5 Utilities SciTE 2.20 osebox 3.0.0 Toys flightgear 2.0.0 Frets on Fire 1.3.110 The Battle for Wesnoth 1.8.4 tuxpaint 0.9.21 supertux 0.1.3 Lincity NG 2.0 Yo Frankie 1.1b LAN winscp 4.2.8 PuTTY 0.60 -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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KPPP and modems
by Chris O'Halloran 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access. To be fair, I didn't actually try the modem since I was just running the live CD of a USB stick. Cheers, Chris

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 230, Issue 8
by Eric Light 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

We're still here, everyone! :) Robert - I've sent you an email. Looks like we had a bit of dropped communication. Cheers, - Eric Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:35:21 +1200 > From: Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Gravity Computing gone to ground again > > Hi Bruce, > > Gravity Computing have gone all quiet again. Do you think there is any > chance of you having a look at the Merlin Macro anytime soon? > > > Cheers > > > Robert >

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OpenSUSE 11.3 DVDs
by Graham Lauder 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

All Woohoo, The 200 openSUSE 11.3 DVDs I ordered in anticipation of SFD arrived yesterday. I'll be at the meeting on Mon night if anyone wants one. They're very cool, Dual sided, 64 bit one side and 32 bit the other. Two live environments, KDE and Gnome so people can check out each DE. Of course the DVD comes with XFCE, LXDE and Windowmaker desktops as well if the two big boys are not your cup of tea, just not as live. cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Meeting Monday Aug 23rd.
by Bruce Kingsbury 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Monday night's meeting will be a social night and planning for the upcoming "Software Freedom Day" event on Saturday 18th September. The WLUG website is currently down and this announcement has been make a bit late, so of you know someone who isn't on the mailing list please let them know about this meeting. August 23rd 7:30pm at Waikato University, MS4.G.02

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wiki down
by John Billings 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

As you might have noticed the wiki has been down. The switch failed that we have at Orcon. No one really wants to manage the equipment at Orcon anymore anyway, and we have a VPS donated by Rimuhosting where some backups are stored. If anyone wants to work on restoring these backups just send me an email off list and I can get you the access you need. I'm on holiday right now, and don't have time to look at it. I installed the Postgres database server on the VPS but it's a newer version than what the wiki was using before, so there may be some issues with that. I'll be back in another week, and can look at it more then if needed. Best, John

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Nerds in Crisis: using technology to respond to disasters
by Peter Reutemann 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

Hi there I thought, some people here on the list might be interested in the talk by Craig (google.org) outlined below. Here's the link to the official announcement: http://unipr.waikato.ac.nz/nerdsincrisis.htm Cheers, Peter ==== Craig Nevill-Manning Engineering Director, Google.org Nerds in Crisis: using technology to respond to disasters Public Lecture Earthquakes, cyclones, tsunamis, fires and military action regularly take a terrible toll on people around the world. Technology has always been used to respond in times of crisis, but in the last decade internet access has enabled new approaches to saving lives and reducing misery. Several organizations, including Google, are developing systems to help disaster responders and people affected by a disaster. Detailed aerial and satellite imagery is accelerating disaster response, and SMS and internet-based systems improve communication allowing victims of a disaster to request help. This talk will describe specific responses to disasters this year such as the earthquakes in Haiti, Chile and China, and man-made disasters like the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Craig received his PhD in Computer Science from the University of Waikato in 1996. He moved to the US and founded Google’s first remote engineering centre in New York. He led the development of 'Froogle', played a key role in developing Google Maps, and Google in Māori. He will be honoured this year by the University of Waikato with its Distinguished Alumni Award. Date: Thursday 26 August 2010 Time: 6.30-7.30pm Venue: University of Waikato WEL Energy Trust Academy of Performing Arts Gallagher Concert Chamber Parking: Gate 2b, Knighton Rd, Hamilton -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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Re: [wlug] Slingshot dialup not authenticating
by GJB 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

IIRC ... that unintelligble stuff is most likely something to do with the ppp pap/chap authentication dialogue ... > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Slingshot dialup not authenticating > From: Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sat, August 07, 2010 1:06 pm > To: jaytee(a)clear.net.nz, Waikato Linux Users Group > <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > On 7 August 2010 09:46, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had tried "stupid mode" with wvdial, both under Lighthouse Puppy and > > Suses 11.3. It worked with Xtra but not Slingshot. Minicom is > > indicating a much deeper problem ... almost looks like send/receive > > formats are not matching ... nothing "legible" comes back! When I get > > time I'll post info from minicom - but I've got other things to right > > at the moment. > > Back home ... Here's the output from minicom. As you can see, Xtra > (the first attempt) responded with a login prompt. Slingshot (second > dial) responded with an unintelligible request. Any ideas? I've a > suspicion one of the modem options may need tweaking ,,, but since > this is only for a temporary solution, I don't want to spend too long > trying them all. > > > Welcome to minicom 2.3 > > OPTIONS: I18n > Compiled on Jul 5 2010, 13:36:15. > Port /dev/modem > > Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys > > AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0 > OK > atdt087303030 > CONNECT 57600 > > login: > OK > atdt087308880 > CONNECT 57600 > ~�}#�!}!.} }8}"}&} }*} } }#}$�#}%}&[c}9/}'}"}(}"��~~�}#�!}!.} }8}"}&} > }*} } }#}~NO CARRIER > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Need to download my development evironment.
by Gregory Machin 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

Hi I need to download my Endian Firewall development environment from my VPS in the US. I'm having platform issues with the cross compiling, so want to move it to my desktop thats running 32 bit Fedora. I'm in a rural area in Hamilton and having connectivity issues. The devel env is about 8Gb if tar gziped. At the moment my work goes to my Sourceforge project Endian Toolbox<http://sourceforge.net/projects/efw-toolbox/> . If you have access to bandwidth and can help please email me off the list. Regards Gregory Machin http://www.linuxpro.co.nz/

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks
by David Hallett 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks 19 August 2010: 12:00 pm - 1:30 pm Events Room 2, Gallagher Hub Wintec City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton Continuing a security theme, in the latest National Series event NZCS is proud to bring one of the country's experts in application and web security to Hamilton. NB: Due to the NZCS 50th Anniversary Conference ( http://www.innovation.org.nz) there will be no National Series event next month. Hacked: Teaching the Good Guys Bad Tricks You can't fight a war that you don't know you're waging. You can't defend your website against attack unless you know the tricks that the bad guys will use. Join Andy Prow, Managing Director of Aura Software Security, as he demonstrates and discusses attacks and defences in action. By the end of this session you'll have an understanding of some of the common attacks such as Cross-Site Scripting (XSS), Cross-Domain Request Forgery (CDRF), and will have an appreciation of how layering your defences (defence-in-depth) can help protect you from exploit chaining. The session will also give you some practical tips that you can apply straight away to help you design, build and manage more secure websites. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/204-Hacked Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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Slingshot dialup not authenticating
by Michael McDonald 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

Just been tearing my hair out with trying to set up a temporary system (using Suse!! - also Lighthouse Puppy) for a friend on dialup. Couldn't get wvdial to work, kppp was doing some strange things (including query modem not talking to the modem!). Eventually discovered minicom which enabled me to talk to the modem manually. Dialled Xtra ... fine and clear prompts coming back. Dialled slingshot ... couldn't make head or tail of what came back - reminded me of the results of mismatched send/receive speeds. Anyone got any clues. MS Windows connects fine, so that might be the only answer. Michael

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Saturday workshop
by John 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

This Saturday???

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Re: [wlug] pcmcia network card
by Glenn Morrissey 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Harry and Donna Wieldraayer wrote: > I know the one you mean pbtech in hamilton has them I seen them there Dlink as well > Cheers mate good luck Try Trademe? > > Cheers > Harry > > On 2/08/2010, at 6:46 PM, Glenn Morrissey wrote: > > >> Harry and Donna Wieldraayer wrote: >> >>> Got one here D-Link DWL-G50 pcmcia >>> >>> 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless I also have a 10/100 pcmcia network card >>> >>> If you are interested make a offer I do not need them anymore I bought a Macbook >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >> The slot in my notebook is one of those 34 mm express slots. I haven't encountered them before this, the older PCMCIA cards wont fit (or doesn't look like they will). >> >> Glenn. >> > > Had a look on Tradme last night, didn't see any. Jaycar has them, but at $83.00, I can wait a week or three before picking one up. I still get plenty out of the Linux box, the only toy I haven't got on there is GIMP image software. I downloaded the binary but there is a whole bunch of dependencies I need to have first. Im patient, I can wait a wee while. Glenn.

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Network
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hey All, after all that hoo ha, its my network on my Laptop that is faulty. Im on the lookout now for a cheap PCMCIA express network card to bypass the onboard chip. Glenn.

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route table
by Glenn Morrissey 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

I formatted and reinstalled Linux this morning, so as to remove the possibility I have accidently changed a file. Here is the result of changing my route table: route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 [169.254.214.162 is the IPv4 address of my windows machine.] glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.43.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ sudo route -F add default gw 169.254.214.162 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.43.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 default 169.254.214. 162 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ Does that look in order? Glenn.

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output
by Glenn Morrissey 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Id love to come down but I'm stuck in Auckland for the moment. My OS is: Ubuntu Version 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx 64 Bit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IPv4 method options: Automatic (DHCP) Automatic (DHCP) Addresses only Manual Link-local only Shared to other computers. IPv6 method Options: Ignore Automatic Automatic, Addresses only Link-local only Shared To other computers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the output from /sbin$./route -n command: glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ ./route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.42.44.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 eth0 glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/sbin$ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- IPv4 Windows Box: 10.42.44.10. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the output from /etc$ cat hosts glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/etc$ cat hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 glenn-desktop # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts glenn(a)glenn-desktop:/etc$ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I type in: glenn(a)glenn-desktop:-$ host Google.com ;;connection timed out; no servers could be reached glenn(a)glenn-desktop:-$ Interesting question: why when I run ifconfig in Windows does the IPv4 default gateway show as my Linux box's IP address??? That's surely not right. And when I have my network plugged in sometimes my mail fails to send, as in cant reach server. I wonder if the windows box is looking at the Linux box as a server. I can't imagine why though. What ever it is its playing mary hell with my dialup connection. Glenn.

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Modem
by Glenn Morrissey 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

Just got the word from the people at linmodems that dialup modems are not supported on 64 bit versions of linux. Thats not catastrophic, I can use my Windows laptop to connect to the net and internet share across my home network, until I can get ADSL. Now all I have to do is make my Linux system communicate with my windows laptop. I have manually configured my networking settings on my Linux system, and can ping both ways, but cant get internet sharing up and running. I think the problem is with settings on my windows laptop. GLENN.

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Switch
by Glenn Morrissey 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

Hi all, would the fact that I am using a switch with regular network cables make a difference? Im not using a crossover cable. Glenn.

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Network Details
by Glenn Morrissey 25 Jul '10

25 Jul '10

OK here is the technical stuff: On my Linux System, Under the edit Connections Tab, I have the following entered: Connection Name: Affordable Wired Network Tab Mac Address: Empty MTU: Automatic 802.1x Security Value: not checked IPv4 Settings: Method: manual Address: 192.168.0.2 Netmask: 255.255.0.2 Gateway: 0.0.0.0 IPv6 Settings: Method: Ignore. Interesting note: whatever value I add in the IPv4 Gateway, always ends up as 0.0.0.0. Shouldn't it be 192.168.0.1? I have turned my PC's Firewall Off (the default firewall for Vista Home Premium). MY PC Network Connection Details: Connection-Specific DNS: no value Description: Atheros L2 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-T Controller Physical Address: 00-1F-C6-ED-C2-10 DHCP Enabled: Yes Autoconfiguration IPv4... 169.254.214.162 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0 IPv4 Default Gateway: no value IPv4 DNS Server: no value IPv4 WINS Server: no value NetBIOS over TCP En.. Yes Link Local IPv6 Address: fe80::cb2:5cf7:71e2:d6a2%10 IPv6 Default Gateway: IPv6 DNS Servers: fec0:0:0.:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0.:ffff::2%1 fec0:0:0.:ffff::3%1 MY Kiwi Online Connection Details: Connection-Specific DNS: no value Description: Kiwi Online Physical Address: no value DHCP Enabled: NO Autoconfiguration IPv4... 202.150.121.52 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255 IPv4 Default Gateway: no value IPv4 DNS Server: 210.55.12.1 210.55.12.2 IPv4 WINS Server: no value NetBIOS over TCP En.. No In the sharing tab I have ticked Enable Internet Connection Sharing Home Networking Connection is ticked in the box under properties of local area network. If, in my Linux system, if I set the IPv4 settings to DHCP, the connection doesn't happen and the system remains disconnected. If I open the connection information box, I get the following: ACTIVE NETWORK CONNECTIONS Affordable Interface: eth0 Hardware Address: 00:26:55:37:81:53 Driver: Forcedeth Speed: 100MB/s Security: None IP Address: 192.168.0.2 Broadcast Address: 192.168.0.3 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.254. Although the connection says established, whenever I ping 169.254.214.162 or 192.168.0.1 from my Linux system, it doesn't ping. Whenever I ping 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3 from my Windows system, it says connection timed out. I have set my Linux System Network Proxy Settings to Direct Internet Connection. Glenn.

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Monday night meeting
by Bruce Kingsbury 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Monday night WLUG meeting will be a film screening; US NOW - http://www.usnowfilm.com/ A film project about the power of mass collaboration, government and the internet Us Now follows the fate of Ebbsfleet United, a football club owned and run by its fans; Zopa, a bank in which everyone is the manager; and Couch Surfing, a vast online network whose members share their homes with strangers. The founding principles of these projects -- transparency, self-selection, open participation -- are coming closer and closer to the mainstream of our social and political lives. Us Now describes this transition and confronts politicians George Osborne and Ed Milliband with the possibilities for participative government as described by Don Tapscott and Clay Shirky amongst others. "Linus likes to joke that the official project goal is world domination, possibly there is some truth in that. It would nice to get to the situation where we have democratised knowledge and the ability to actually contribute and change, particularly information technology, across the entire world." Alan Cox July 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02

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WLUG Blade Server
by John Billings 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

There is a problem with the switch connected to the WLUG Blade server. We are not sure what the problem is, other than some IPs are not working. We possibly need a new switch. Does anyone have one? I'm able to schedule a call-out, if someone is able to go to the data center and replace the switch. A call out will cost us $50 for every 30 min. Is anyone able to help with this? Thanks, John Billings Treasurer WLUG Committee

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Kiwi PyCon 2010 Registrations now OPEN
by Tim Knapp 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Hi all, FYI this email announcement went out a few days ago: ---------------------------------------------------------- The time has come - online registrations for Kiwi PyCon 2010 are now open! Registration fees are as follows: **Regular NZD100** Earlybird: if registered before 01 Sep: NZD80 **Student/Unwaged NZD60** Earlybird: If registered before 01 Sep: NZD40 This year we have a limit of 180 participants. Given the demand and huge success of 2009 you better be quick! Just head over to Registrations (http://nz.pycon.org/registrations/) to secure your seat. Please note that the Paihia/Waitangi area is a very popular spot for both domestic and international visitors, so also make sure to secure accommodation (http://nz.pycon.org/2010/about/accommodation/) before it gets expensive. "What am I getting for this?" - A nice venue - Morning tea, lunch and afternoon tea on both days - A Kiwi PyCon 2010 t-shirt - A lanyard with the conference schedule - Wifi access to Internet (separate from the hotel) See you there! Danny W. Adair President New Zealand Python User Group Incorporated

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Ubuntu Lucid
by Glenn Morrissey 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello everyone does anyone have a copy of the latest Ubuntu Linux download? Its going to take a week or more to download it for me, if anyone has a copy, ill send you a reply paid box and a CD for a copy. Glenn.

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Kiwi PyCon 2010 Call for Participation
by Tim Knapp 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi, We have another Kiwi PyCon lined up, and we're all expecting it to be as good as last year's event. This year it will be staged in lovely Paihia/Waitangi in the sunny Bay of Islands. It is on the weekend 20-21 November. Find a link below to the "Call for Participation". We are encouraging everybody to come and to participate. Do not feel intimidated, this is a community conference, and we are hosting talks and sessions for all knowledge levels. Be it a tiny demo or show and tell (by doing a 5 minute Lightning Talk), or up to running an hour long tutorial. Or are you interested in the dynamic evolution of a session? Then the unconference like Open Spaces will give you just the platform for interaction. Also ... make sure to spread the word. Tell everybody else about it. Blog about it, post it on Twitter/Identi.ca, etc. http://nz.pycon.org/2010/talks-cfp/call-for-papers/ ... Code and enjoy, The Kiwi PyCon Committee

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New DVD drive unusable in Lucid...
by Chakat Sandwalker 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

I got hold of an old computer, and managed to put Lucid on it. At the time, it had an old CD-RW drive in it. Now it's got a brand new DVD +/- RW drive, and Lucid can show me that it exists, but it can't mount any discs. In XFCE, it shows the error 'Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist'. The problem is pretty much as described on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1509538. I would have installed Windows, but I didn't have any working Windows XP discs (or a valid key), and even installing Lucid was rather hit and miss. I can't reinstall Lucid to see if that fixes the problem as I'm not at home, and I didn't bring my Lucid disc (or if I did, it's corrupt). If anyone has idea of how to fix this problem (the computer's for my parents, aren't they're not exactly computer savvy, even with Windows XP), I would very much appreciate a solution. If worst comes to worst, would a complete reinstall work (even if I have to download the ISO again, although I'm not sure I have access to a spare CD). I have until Saturday, which is when I have to go home. Sandy (rather desperate)

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HP dx2355 MT (KM421 AV)
by Glenn Morrissey 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hey all does anyone know if I can run the latest incarnation of Ubuntu on my desktop machine? Do I need to get drivers for the motherboard or is that included in the distribution? The motherboard is a HP dx2355 MT. Cheers Glenn Morrissey.

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computer bits
by John 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

Hi All, I have been asked to build-up a couple of secondhand computers (for free) by my work colleagues. I have a couple of boxes and other peripherals but am in need of a main-board with processor and an optical drive (at least dvd read) If anyone is able to donate towards these projects please contact me. Secondary question in case I am overwhelmed with gear. Is there an E-Day in NZ this year?

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Xubuntu disc...
by Chakat Sandwalker 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Would anyone here have an Xubuntu disc I could borrow? Preferably a text-mode install, I think. I've just got hold of an old Dell Latitude with a 600MHz Celeron and 128MB RAM (4MB given to video), and I can't put anything on it except Puppy Linux (which I don't much like) and Damn Small Linux (which can't properly deal with the USB flash drives I tried with it). Sandy

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rpm build errors - checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
by Gregory Machin 04 Jul '10

04 Jul '10

Hi I have a 32 build build environment on fedora 12 64bit. The build environment is a complete system (unless the provider has missed something) .. I chroot into the build environment. When I run rpmbuild on any of the provided sources / spec files they exit with " checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables " Or similar. eg : bash-3.00# rpmbuild -ba -v ./SPECS/expat.spec Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76344 + umask 022 + cd /root/rpmbuild/BUILD + cd /root/rpmbuild/BUILD + rm -rf expat-1.95.7 + /bin/gzip -dc /root/rpmbuild/SOURCES/expat-1.95.7.tar.gz + tar -xf - + STATUS=0 + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' + cd expat-1.95.7 + echo 'Patch #0 (expat-1.95.7-xmlcall.patch):' Patch #0 (expat-1.95.7-xmlcall.patch): + patch -p1 -b --suffix .xmlcall -s + echo 'Patch #1 (expat-malloc-failure.diff):' Patch #1 (expat-malloc-failure.diff): + patch -p0 -b --suffix .malloc -s + exit 0 Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76344 + umask 022 + cd /root/rpmbuild/BUILD + cd expat-1.95.7 + export 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC' + CFLAGS='-O2 -g -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC' + CFLAGS='-O2 -g -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC' + export CFLAGS + CXXFLAGS='-O2 -g -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables' + export CXXFLAGS + FFLAGS='-O2 -g -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables' + export FFLAGS + ./configure --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --target=i386-pc-linux --program-prefix= --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/usr/com --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info configure: loading cache /dev/null /dev/null: line 1: ./configure:: No such file or directory checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... no checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76344 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76344 (%build) bash-3.00# Any suggestions ? Greg Regards Gregory Machin Phone: +64 78 525 380 a/h Mobile: +64 211 844 347 Chat Google Talk: clubbing80s(a)gmail.com Skype: clubbing80s MSN: clubbing80s(a)hotmail.com Y! messenger: clubbing80s(a)ymail.com Contact Me [image: Linkedin]<http://za.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-machin/8/310/8ab>[image: Twitter] <http://twitter.com/clubbing80s>

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Jul '10

02 Jul '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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OO.o 10th year anniversary on Oct 13 this year!
by Sam Lin 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

Dear WLUG fellows, OO.o is planning to celebrate its 10th year anniversary on Oct 13 this year, and asking for some idea on how the community should celebrate it: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=30242 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/10YearsOOo Will there be any celebration/event for the anniversary from WLUG or in NZ? Regards, Sam

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Saturday Workshop this Saturday...
by Bruce Kingsbury 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

As John has pointed out to me, the Saturday workshop is in fact the Saturday coming up. (the 3rd of July) I have no idea why I thought it was still another week away!! http://wlug.org.nz/SaturdayWorkshop.2010-07-03 Sorry about any confusion. Hope to see you there. -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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NZ Computer Society National Series: The Latest in Digital Forensics and e-Crime
by David Hallett 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: The Latest in Digital Forensics and e-Crime 22 July 2010: 12:30 pm - 2:00 pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub Wintec City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton In the latest National Series event, NZCS is proud to bring the head of the NZ Police's National eCrime Group to Hamilton to present the latest in digital forensics and eCrime. This is not one to be missed! The Latest in Digital Forensics and e-Crime Digital Forensics and e-Crime is a rapidly developing and cutting edge discipline of ICT, contributing more and more significantly to crime investigations in New Zealand and globally every year. The NZ Police e-Crime Group is responsible for managing the digital forensics for the NZ Police via three e-Crime Labs throughout the country. In this presentation Maarten Kleintjes, head of the NZ Police National Electronic Crime Group, will give an update on the latest local and international work in digital forensics and e-Crime including recent examples of high profile cases where digital forensics played a key part in cracking the case. As the devices on which people process and store information have become more sophisticated, more widespread and more interconnected, the role of the E-Crime Lab has grown considerably. These days there are very few crimes committed that don’t have an electronic component to evidence and the number of exhibits have increased from around 40 a year in 1985 to over 16,000 in recent years. This ranges from people using their computer to research how to commit a crime (or ironically how to get away with it!), or emails or text messages which often unknowingly give the game away, through to more complicated analysis. Maarten will also outline EVE, the Environment for Virtualised Evidence, the world-leading system created by the NZ e-Crime Group and launched last year to revolutionalise the efficient and timely collection, indexing and analysis of electronic evidence. This system dramatically changed the turnaround of a Detective submitting a computer for analysis and access to files and information from many months or years to several days. The NZ Police e-Crime Group is leading the world in the area of digital forensics, and this presentation will provide significant insight into this fascinating area. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/171-Digital-Forensics Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Jun '10

27 Jun '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting things to do with OpenOffice Basic Ian Stewart has been doing some fun and interesting things with the built in Basic in OpenOffice, and has offered to do a presentation on this and talk about some of the things he's discovered along the way. June 28th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting things to do with OpenOffice Basic Ian Stewart has been doing some fun and interesting things with the built in Basic in OpenOffice, and has offered to do a presentation on this and talk about some of the things he's discovered along the way. June 28th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Jun '10

20 Jun '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting things to do with OpenOffice Basic Ian Stewart has been doing some fun and interesting things with the built in Basic in OpenOffice, and has offered to do a presentation on this and talk about some of the things he's discovered along the way. June 28th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Fix it meeting tomorrow.
by Ron Dean 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

Is the Fixit meeting being held tomorrow . I would like to come if it is -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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job vacancy - Software Developer (Linux)
by John McPherson 31 May '10

31 May '10

Global-Pix.com runs several websites, including the Marathon-Photos.com site. In 2009 we photographed more than 400 events through 30 countries - taking more than 4 million images and recording over a thousand hours' worth of video footage. We are looking for another Programmer to join our small development team based at our offices in Hamilton. We want someone with a minimum of 3 years' programming experience, particularly with the Python programming language. In this position you would help maintain and program both customer-facing and internal/back-end systems, reporting to the team lead. You will be responsible for implementing feature and change requests as well as developing new projects. Most of our projects are written in python, but you have some latitude to use other technologies where appropriate. Any expertise in the following areas would be an advantage: * HTML, CSS and jQuery * Cheetah templating system * SQL databases * SMTP, IMAP Experience in system administration would also be a distinct advantage, especially: * Server internals (eg RAID, SATA, UPSes) * Debian GNU/Linux administration experience * LAN management (configuration, DNS/bind, diagnostics, etc) * Centralised account management - LDAP, SMB, SSH Salary is negotiable based on skillset and experience. Our office has a small and friendly atmosphere near the middle of the Hamilton CBD. Please send email to vacancies(a)global-pix.com to apply or request further information. (If you reply to this email, please ensure that your reply stays off-list) -- John McPherson

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Shared authentication, 2010 style
by Craig Box 27 May '10

27 May '10

Back in the day (a Wednesday, for those who remember it) us WLUG/NZLUG folks were pretty clued up when it came to things like connecting Linux machines to Active Directory using SAMBA [1]. However, kids these days just don't know what kind of crap we had to go through back then, and while I haven't done the testing myself, I'm pretty sure that today you just type 'apt-get install likewise-open', and you don't have to know any magic incantations at all. How about if you want to run a central directory on Linux, not on Windows? You could look at the Ubuntu guide [2]. Or "LDAP for the Lazy Sysadmin" [3]. Do go check that last one out - you don't have to read it all. Just scroll through it for a second. I'll wait. <<taps toes>> That isn't lazy at all! Lazy is paying Microsoft for Active Directory. Unfortunately, due to one complexity or another, it seemed AD often won out for a situation where you had to have some Windows machines as well as your Linux hosts. I remember thinking it strange back when Windows was supposed to be all about the desktop and Linux was supposed to be all about the server, that you got a better client experience on Linux and server experience on Windows. It's 2010 now. Flying cars, etc. I want central authentication across a small network of Ubuntu machines - no Windows machines are expected. Ultimately I'd like multi-master (I believe 389, formerly Fedora DS/Netscape Directory Server does this; and OpenLDAP does not?) so I don't have to think too much about failover/redundancy. Please, someone, tell me there is a better solution? Is there a turn-key method for this? Craig [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/SambaAsPDC?action=PageHistory and http://www.wlug.org.nz/LDAPAuthentication?action=PageHistory for some examples. Look at the dates. [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html [3] http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/LDAP/LazySysadmin

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Re: [wlug] [nzlug] Shared authentication, 2010 style
by Craig Box 25 May '10

25 May '10

> You'll want an LDAP server, a Kerberos server, NTP server, pam_ldap and pam_krb5. You can auth against ldap if you don't want kerberos, but I think krb is a much better solution. > > Setting up ldap will be the most pain, Active Directory and Open Directory come with schemas set up, but you'll have to figure out what you want yourself. I believe there are some gui tools for this these days, but last I checked it wasn't much better than 2002. See, that's the point. I /don't/ want any of that. I want to apt-get install --jfdi ubuntu-directory-server. Then I want to apt-get install ubuntu-managed-client. If I have to figure out what I need, the problem isn't solved. (Personally, I hate LDAP, but it is what it is.) Interestingly, there are blueprints and specs for almost every Ubuntu release in the last 2 years suggesting they should implement this, but there doesn't seem to be any movement. There is a guy working on a bunch of Puppet recipes, and should I end up using LDAP and automating deployment, I will probably end up contributing to this. </rant> Good news though, I did have another look at the eBox website today [1], and it seems they have a potential turn-key-esque answer. (Dagan, Apache Directory Studio looks quite good - I will check it out. Unfortunately it doesn't solve the "which schema do I choose" problem any.) Craig [1] http://www.ebox-platform.com/

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NZ Computer Society National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone
by David Hallett 24 May '10

24 May '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone 9 June 2010: 12:00pm - 1:30pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS is proud to bring you the next of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on ICT in a disaster zone and the role technology plays in saving lives. National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone As we know, ICT has transformed everyday life and changed the way we do things. As well as this, technology now plays a pivotal role in the global humanitarian and rescue response when disaster strikes around the world. The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies have established a number of IT & Telecommunications Emergency Response Units (ERUs) to help in the response to disasters and emergencies around the world. New Zealand's ERU was the 5th such unit and consists of a team of 20 with diverse backgrounds in telecommunications and ICT. The Emergency Response Units are charged with putting in place emergency telecommunications infrastructure to support the rescue effort. Ongoing power and internet outages as well as IT system software and hardware failures within the country create significant difficulties for Red Cross to maintain ongoing contact with key partners, field staff and external contacts, making this role essential. As an active member of the NZ Red Cross IT&T ERU, Steve Davis will outline the impact greater use of telecommunications and IT infrastructure has had on the rescue efforts in disaster-hit areas such as Haiti, Tonga and the Solomon Islands, the challenges faced, as well as some of the background to the Red Cross IT&T team. About The Speaker Steve Davis has a background in Radio Communications and IT spanning more than 25 years and has been putting this to use in the fields of Emergency Management and Disaster Response through a number of agencies over the past 18 years. Through an early interest in electronics and radio Steve obtained his amateur radio license in 1980, soon after becoming a member of the New Zealand Association of Amateur Radio Transmitters (NZART) and later joining the Amateur Radio Emergency Communications group (AREC). Steve has served as a member of the National Council for NZART, various offices for the local NZART branch and as Section Leader for the local AREC Section. Through AREC Steve became involved in Land Search and Rescue in New Zealand and has responded to many searches to provide communications and IT support at the Incident Control Point. Steve has also participated in local, regional and national roles of the Land SAR organisation over many years. In more recent times Steve has become a member of NZ Red Cross’s first International Emergency Response Unit, providing IT & Telecommunications support to International and Local Red Cross in times of a major disaster. Steve is currently self employed providing training, consulting and contracting services in a range of fields in the ICT and Emergency Management sectors, and is active in NZCS, Scouts NZ, and the Mountain Safety Council. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/152-National_Series_ICT_in_a_Disa… <http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio…> Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 May '10

23 May '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Update problem
by john 23 May '10

23 May '10

I have a very strange problem. I had Ubuntu 9.10 working well on my desktop - after updating to 10.04, it would not recognise my mouse or keyboard - they are not usb, they are the older plug in types (?ps2). When I plugged in a usb mouse, and rebooted, both the usb and old devices worked intermittently. I then plugged in a usb wireless keyboard and mouse and all was well for a while but now both have ceased to function - I just get a stationary arrow and no way of accessing anything. They all work perfectly if I boot into windows as this is a dual boot computer. Any ideas?

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Fixit Day Next month
by Ron Dean 23 May '10

23 May '10

Is it being held on the 5th of June as it's Queens Birthday Weekend. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 May '10

20 May '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Free registration for tomorrow's NZCS National Series Event!
by David Hallett 16 May '10

16 May '10

I've just come off the phone to the NZCS CEO. He said that due to the interest of this topic to members of the LUG, that NZCS will provide 5 free registrations to this event for members of WLUG. Please email me off-list and I will register you for this event. http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio… Be quick to secure your free lunch! Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Transformational ICT through Open Data
by David Hallett 16 May '10

16 May '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Transformational ICT through Open Data 18 May 2010: 12:00pm - 1:30pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS is proud to bring you the next of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on the concept of open data, and how it is transforming the ICT sector. Transformational ICT through Open Data Throughout Europe in the 18th Century the great Age of Enlightenment was born, a movement promoting the black arts of education, reason and logic in decision-making. In this entertaining and informative presentation popular ICT commentator and online strategist Paul Reynolds will shine light on the new Internet-driven "Age of Enlightenment" happening right now, and how individuals and organisations can cash in on the phenomena by building upon the growing wealth of publicly-available open data covering everything from map and geospatial information, through to the human genome itself. Exploring what is available and where is fascinating, and as Reynolds takes us through some of the more obscure and interesting datasets freely available, what we can do with it will surprise even the most data-aware information scientists amongst us. Reynolds will argue that with the age of the Internet and the new age of Cloud Computing now upon us, the revolution is already here, with levels of information and data never seen before at our fingertips and the type, nature and volume of open data expanding rapidly. Similarly, the scope and range of the tools being applied to open government and e-democracy are transforming the landscape we, as ICT professionals, operate in, also impacting on politicians, bureaucrats, citizens and business. But where does the ICT profession sit in relation to these double revolutions? Managing information and data has responsibilities attached, and is the profession really ready and open to always-on ubiquitous networks, or will risk aversion, and a craving for the old certainties of centralisation send the baby with the bathwater? In a truly inspired presentation designed to provoke discussion and debate Paul Reynolds's asks: Is the ICT profession ready for the 18th century? Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 May '10

16 May '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Grub boot problem, help please
by Cesar 16 May '10

16 May '10

Hi, I wonder if anybody could please advice me on a booting issue. I have double hard disk computer, which I was using with either Ubuntu or Windows depending on the need of the moment. I have been using the F10 option at start-up to select the Windows HD when needed. After upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu, I cannot boot in Windows any more. While I was upgrading, "Grub" software opened options, and I most likely selected the wrong ones. Now when the computer boots, only does it in Ubuntu, even if I select Windows option. Even selecting the HD of Windows with the F10 option, still doesn't boot on Windows, it just get stopped on a black screen. For the grub version : ada(a)ada-desktop:~$ dpkg -l grub\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==============-==============-============================================ un grub <none> (no description available) ii grub-common 1.98-1ubuntu5 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (common un grub-coreboot <none> (no description available) un grub-doc <none> (no description available) un grub-efi <none> (no description available) un grub-efi-amd64 <none> (no description available) un grub-efi-ia32 <none> (no description available) un grub-emu <none> (no description available) un grub-ieee1275 <none> (no description available) un grub-legacy <none> (no description available) un grub-legacy-do <none> (no description available) un grub-linuxbios <none> (no description available) ii grub-pc 1.98-1ubuntu5 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS un grub2 <none> (no description available) Here is a copy of the grub.cfg # # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub # ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then load_env fi set default="0" if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry} save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi function savedefault { if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then saved_entry=${chosen} save_env saved_entry fi } function recordfail { set recordfail=1 if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi } insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then set gfxmode=640x480 insmod gfxterm insmod vbe if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else # For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't # understand terminal_output terminal gfxterm fi fi insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale set lang=en insmod gettext if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then set timeout=-1 else set timeout=10 fi ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### set menu_color_normal=white/black set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-21-generic ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 ro single echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin } menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 } ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sdb1)" { insmod ntfs set root='(/dev/sdb,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set e29010fc9010d8bd drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} chainloader +1 } ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### Help will be very much appreciated. Regards Cesar Waksman

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Dell, ubuntu 10.4, Phillips 21"
by Andrew Crosby 08 May '10

08 May '10

Hi I am having trouble with a ubuntu 10.4 install, the problem is sometimes it detects the display, and changes to its native res (something like 2048x1560) however other times it doesn't and then default to 1024x768, this wouldn't be a problem if it just stuck with one all the time, but it seams to take liberties about when it chooses with res to go with, and as this is a pc for my parents, it is somewhat annoying, any ideas? Cheers Andrew (PS, its a fairly boring intel on board graphics chipset)

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Some cheap, good Linux games for you (DRM Free)
by Liz Quilty 07 May '10

07 May '10

This is the best promo ever, i thought the games were so good i ended up donating more money. 5 good Linux,Mac,Windows games for a donation. http://www.wolfire.com/humble Liz

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O'Reilly donation
by John Billings 06 May '10

06 May '10

We received a donation of 5 new books from O'Reilly: * Learning Perl http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=69 * Ubuntu Up And Running http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=68 * Version Control w/ Git http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=66 * The Ruby Programming Language http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=67 * Mastering Regular Expressions http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=65 Books will be available at our upcoming meetings. Thanks to O'Reilly for donating these books, Marsee and Kristin over there were very helpful getting these out to us. http://oreilly.com/ Check out their DRM free ebooks: http://oreilly.com/ebooks/ Cheers, John

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meeting topic this month.
by John Billings 05 May '10

05 May '10

A few people at the workshop last Saturday mentioned they might be interested in presenting at our regular meeting. Will be the 24th this month. AFAIK there is nothing planned, so anyone have any suggestions, want to follow up? Thanks, John

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Acer 5315 Laptop overheating with ubuntu 10.04 32 biit
by Ron Dean 04 May '10

04 May '10

One of the fixes I've found on the net is to edit the grub2 file which has a basic emacs editor they suggest we add a line acpi=off however I don't seem to be able to save it. What command should I use? cntrl + s doesn't seem to work Ron Dean

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Also since this will be shortly after the release of Lucid Lynx, we'll have a bit of party food and make this a Lucid Lynx Release Party. Special appearance from Tux the penguin (Cairo) who will be handing out little chocolate fish to anyone who wants them. http://softwarefreedomday.org/gallery/2007/newzealand/hamilton?action=Attac… Ubuntu ISOs wanted: * Kubuntu * DVD images zcat has; * ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso * ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso * ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso * ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso John has: * ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso * xubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso Download From: * Torrents, if you can (it helps keep the load down on the http/ftp mirrors) * http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/ * http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/

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Saturday workshop / Lucid Release Party TOMORROW!
by Bruce Kingsbury 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

I don't know what's happened to the Wlug Reminder Bot, but it doesn't seem to have picked up tomorrow's meeting. I've bought some party food already and just downloading the ISO's now. Saturday May 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Also since this will be shortly after the release of Lucid Lynx, we'll have a bit of party food and make this a Lucid Lynx Release Party.

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[OT] local support for small (Win) network
by Michael Doerner - TechnologyWise 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Apologies for this OT posting but I prefer and hope to find the right person or company through a local Linux user group rather searching through Yellow Pages or similar. I hope this is OK. We are a systems integrator in Tauranga. As much as we like to use Open Source (especially Linux based servers), real life means we often have to deal with the Windows world as well. For an existing customer from Tauranga, we will setup a new office in Hamilton, a small LAN with three Windows7 machines, a multifunction printer and one machine being the peer to peer server with a USB backup device. All pretty normal stuff. The only Open Source there, at least for the beginning will be OpenOffice, Thunderbird and Firefox. Ideally we are looking for a local company (or maybe single person) who wants to help us as their local support in case they need someone on-site. If there is any interest, please contact me directly (NO replies to this list please). Thank You. Michael Doerner TechnologyWise Ltd | Tauranga / NZ michael(a)tw.co.nz | www.technologywise.co.nz

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Software Patents
by John Billings 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Just following up on last nights meeting where we watched Patent Absurdity, I mentioned Andrew Tridgell's talk at LCA this year. You can get the video of it here: http://2009.r2.co.nz/20100118/50091.htm He has some no nonsense advice for Free Software developers in dealing with patents. Cheers, John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu desktop image feeds (Peter Reutemann)
by Eric Light 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

Hi Peter, Thanks for your response! I've tried Webilder, but there are no repositories for either Karmic or Jaunty. Your second link however guided me to "Drapes" which I'm putting through the paces now... Perhaps I'll just need to download a bunch of wallpapers and let it do the rest of the magic :-) Thanks again Cheers, - Eric Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:05:06 +1200 > From: Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Ubuntu desktop image feeds > Message-ID: > <j2k548e07051004221605gbdddbf53p2e433897b7b0e283(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > I'm looking for an app that will change my Ubuntu (Karmic) desktop image > > periodically, with images from Flickr. > > > > E.g. I'd like it to automatically flick through the photos here > > (http://www.flickr.com/photos/metservice-nz/) every hour or so. > > > > Any advice?? Does this exist yet? > > A quick search for "ubuntu desktop background image flickr changer": > > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-set-flickr-images-as-ubuntu-desktop-wallpap… > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-wallpaper-changer-apps-for-linux/ > > Webuilder seems to be closest to what you want. Only downside, you > need to trigger the download of the images manually. > > NB: haven't used any of these tools myself. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ > http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/<http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/%7Efracpete/> Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > > >

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 25 Apr '10

25 Apr '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Ubuntu desktop image feeds
by Eric Light 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Hi everyone, I'm looking for an app that will change my Ubuntu (Karmic) desktop image periodically, with images from Flickr. E.g. I'd like it to automatically flick through the photos here ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/metservice-nz/) every hour or so. Any advice? Does this exist yet? Cheers, - Eric

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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permission bit calculator script ???
by newbie01 linux 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Hi, Does anyone have a permission but calculator script that I can use or know any that I can get from somewhere? Currently Googling, and so far can't find one that is a script ... Thanks in advance.

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Seeking DDR Ram
by James Pluck 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Hi All! A friend has been given a desktop machine but it only has 512 meg of ram and is sluggish. He has asked me if anyone has some second hand DDR ram he might be able to purchase. Has anyone got any ram they want to sell? Cheers James. -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus

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Fwd: [nzlug] Cross-Post: PublicACTA Outputs: Wellington Declaration & Petition
by Bruce Kingsbury 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Just in case anyone missed this on the other lists ;) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> Date: 11 April 2010 22:01 Subject: [nzlug] Cross-Post: PublicACTA Outputs: Wellington Declaration & Petition To: nzlug(a)linux.net.nz, aucklug(a)linux.net.nz Cc: nzlug-announce(a)linux.net.nz Greetings everyone, and apologies for the cross-post. This issue bears some publicity! The Wellington Declaration generated by the folks who attended the PublicACTA event this weekend in Wellington, is something I believe we LUG'rs should be getting behind. Refer the following: http://publicacta.org.nz/wellington-declaration/ http://publicacta.org.nz/sign-the-wellington-declaration/ If you support the statements made in the URL above - and really, I'd be surprised if you don't - please sign the electronic petition at this URL: http://www.gopetition.com/online/35443.html All signatures added before Tuesday morning NZ Time will be appended to the Declaration when it is communicated to the NZ Government negotiators, who (it is hoped) will circulate it to all the ACTA delegations. Background: ACTA (the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement or ACTA) is a controversial international treaty being negotiated in a series of secret meetings. ACTA is proposed as a plurilateral trade agreement for establishing international standards on intellectual property rights enforcement. It is being negotiated between the US, Canada, Japan, the European Union, South Korea, Mexico, Switzerland, Australia and New Zealand. Unfortunately, the negotiations have extended beyond trade and physical counterfeiting to potentially cover non-commercial infringement of copyright material by ordinary citizens and issues of digital rights management. PublicACTA was organised by InternetNZ to give the public opportunity to critique the known and likely content of ACTA proposals. Several issues abound in ACTA; the scope of the agreement is much wider than simply an agreement around trade, and the ramifications should it come into force will be dire for New Zealanders. The NZOSS, which many of you will know of and know that I am also involved with, have taken their stance regarding ACTA to the Government: http://nzoss.org.nz/news/2010/nzoss-submission-acta Please be aware of ACTA, and if you support the position being taken by InternetNZ, NZOSS and many, many other groups and NGOs both in NZ and worldwide, show your support. Cheers Mark Foster Administrator - NZLUG, AuckLUG _______________________________________________ NZLUG mailing list NZLUG(a)linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nzlug -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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NZ Computer Society National Series: A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm (Plus Branch AGM)
by David Hallett 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm (Plus Branch AGM) 18 March 2010: 12:00pm - 1:45pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS are proud to kick off the new National ICT Series, beginning with well-known IT Skeptic Rob England presenting on what would appear to be regarded as the utopia of service management, RealITSM... A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm Idealised models such as ITIL®, COBIT and ISO20000 are all very well for theoretical discussions, but more and more people are discovering these models just don't fit the way we do things in the real world. Join the movement that is sweeping the ITSM community. Find out about Real ITSM, as it is done in the real world. Making IT Real. Get Real. RealITSM, that is... In this light-hearted and humorous presentation Rob England, the well known "IT Skeptic", introduces Real ITSM, as documented in the book "Introduction to Real ITSM" (see www.realitsm.com) RealITSM is the methodology of implementing IT service management as it is done now in the real world, thereby saving costs, minimising impact and ensuring acceptance. Realitsm (pronounced "realism" with a slight lisp) is the underlying philosophy of primarily ensuring a tranquil life for IT staff. After all, life is hard for us IT types! The main threats to IT stability, or at least the stability of the IT team, are change, accountability and reduced spending. Realitsm is about eliminating these threats from the IT environment, in the best interests of all in IT. A harmonious IT environment requires adherence to the following Realitsm principles: * Ensure a stable operating environment * Maximise adaptability to change * Promote involvement through collectivist decision-making * Maintain morale through reduced group accountability * Maximise revenue and funding for the IT department * Maximise benefit and value for the IT staff Realitsm may be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, however by reflecting on the motivations of teams and managers that unknowingly subscribe to some of its principles, a level of clarity on the importance of service management becomes apparent. This is a not-to-be-missed presentation for anyone in the Service Management space or those interested in a humorous presentation from one of the more colorful figures in New Zealand's IT scene. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/114-National_Series_A_Harmonious_… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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Re: [wlug] Ge Force FX 5200
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 05 Apr '10

05 Apr '10

Hi I have an agp card with "fx5200" written on the back however it only has a vga and a video out plug. I guess we are talking on different levels as I am not really a geek just trying to be helpful. If it is of some use to you just let me know regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hello, > > I am looking to build a MythTV box for a friend using a > satellite card to capture/watch/record Freeview. > > I've already got my own box working. > > Prior to HD, I understand the Nvidia GeForce FX5200 was > considered a good graphics card and is infact what I use > (more by luck than design). It has an TV-OUT RCA socket. > > Would anyone on the list have something like that spare > that they would be willing to sell? > > If you wish to reply, please reply to me off list. > > Cheers, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Batch renaming Photo's
by John 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

For those who were at the meeting today, I succeeded in getting a program that will batch rename my photos easily (K Rename) having had a couple of wee trial runs I am sure I can get what I need from this. Liz, Many thanks for your offer of a script. I am quietly thankful that I will not require it :) Regards John

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Internet problems
by Michael McDonald 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Was installing Ubuntu 9.10 on some relatively old hardware (c2002-2004) at SeniorNet this afternoon and had an unusual problem. I could ping google.com but could not go to Google site on Firefox. I could bring the router/modem status up on the browser. That page has an automatic refresh, and I got the impression that the transmission speed was slow. There was a brief (at least 0.5sec?) blank screen between successive frames - something I don't recollect having seen happening before. Computer has been fine in the past - used to run Windows XP - and had beta Windows 7 running for several months (after upgrading RAM and optical drive). Double-checked by running Puppy 4.3 ... no problems at all with the Internet. Tried, I think (there's no guarantee that what you've done is what you think you have done!) putting ISP DNS server address directly in eth0 settings, but it didn't appear to make a difference. Tried both auto DHCP and manual settings. Has anyone experienced this before and know how to get around the problem? Is there a problem with the NZ Ubuntu server? Was testing on a spare computer yesterday and wanted to add some software. Seems the NZ server wasn't playing ball and I only succeeded after changing to the main server. My main system is set to the NZ server and I've not noticed any problems!! Finally, getting back to the computer I was dealing with today ... installing Windows 7 beta several months ago was an interesting exercise. The installer was quite happy with the LCD screen plugged in at the time, but Windows 7 itself refused to display on it. It wasn't until I substituted an ancient CRT monitor that I discovered that Windows 7 had installed successfully. Michael

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 15
by stephen pearce 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

we have fedora 12 dvd for i386 and 64 bit .. I did not know 13 was available On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server > (Gregory Machin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:37:14 +1300 > From: Gregory Machin <clubbing80s(a)gmail.com> > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server > Message-ID: > <f26eca761003290237l2929f63dld6e45c4d46bf11aa(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > I if anyone has the ISO's for fedora 12 and 13 , and Ubuntu 9.10 and > won't mind copying them onto my usb drive please drop me an email. > > > Thanks > -- > Regards > Gregory Machin > +64211844347 > www.linuxpro.co.nz > www.linuxpro.co.za > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 15 > ************************************* > -- Stephen Pearce Critical Care Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server
by Gregory Machin 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

Hi I if anyone has the ISO's for fedora 12 and 13 , and Ubuntu 9.10 and won't mind copying them onto my usb drive please drop me an email. Thanks -- Regards Gregory Machin +64211844347 www.linuxpro.co.nz www.linuxpro.co.za

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability
by David Hallett 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability 14 April 2010: 12:00pm - 1:45pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS are proud to bring you the second of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on the paradigm shift required to develop for a mobile platform such as the iPhone. Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability Many believe that the introduction of the iPhone brought about a fundamental shift in the usability, functional abilities, and expectations of phone and PDA users. However along with this shift came a new challenge: how to develop for this revolutionary platform? Join John Ascroft, Chief Innovation Officer (CIO) of Jade Software Corporation, and Hadley Trounson, a member of Jade's development team as they take you through the iPhone environment and its focus on user-centric design and market driven innovation. The Jade team will also outline the total shift in developmental paradigm encountered, plus their experiences in introducing the new platform and the technical development challenges encountered along the way. This will be a thoroughly enthralling presentation and not one to be missed. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: https://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/124-National_Series_Developing_f… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] WLUG meeting is one week away (Meeting Reminder Bot)
by Wayne Grimsey 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi Team. Can some really nice person please give me a lift to the meeting next Monday? I live at 16A Abbotsford Street, Whitiora, Hamilton. If you can, text me on 021 1248 377 or ring/leave a message on 838 2007 or email me at wgrimsey(a)hotmail.com Thanks heaps. Wayne > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 11 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:00:06 +1300 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away (Meeting Reminder Bot) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:27:02 +1300 > From: Meeting Reminder Bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Cc: nzlug-announce <nzlug-announce(a)linux.net.nz>, nzlug > <nzlug(a)linux.net.nz> > Subject: [wlug] ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away > Message-ID: <E1Nqrag-0007bh-Cj(a)db.wlug.org.nz> > > The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. > > March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 11 > ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Singles online now! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/163036679/direct/01/

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] The dog ate my bootloader!
by Eric Light 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Thanks for your link, Gregory. Turns out I didn't give enough information in my original post - and after thinking of the right terms, a Google search found the problem. I was affected by bug 477104, fix and cause here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104 in case it will help someone. I was running Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 via Wubi (critical missing info in my original email). Wubi + kernel update = broken grub2 & left at bootloader. In the future, I'll need to follow any major updates by running sudo update-grub2. If this happens to anyone else, I fixed it by running: > set root=(hd0,1) > loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk > set root=(loop0) > linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic > boot Once Ubuntu booted successfully, I had to run sudo update-grub2 to prevent the issue from recurring at next boot. Obviously, the versioning will vary; I also had to rollback to the previous version of vmlinuz and initrd. I've seen comments that the first 2 lines aren't necessary, but I needed them on my system. Hope this helps someone out in the future! Cheers, - Eric

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Photo archives
by John 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Hi All, Due to some awful archiving. I have around 1500 digital still images that have been duplicated triplicated or more in a number of folders,C/D's and DVD's on a number of drives. I would like to know if there is a way I can dump ALL the directories into one folder then run a "find dupes" type program that would ensure that I did not delete any of my original photos. Regards John

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CLI help
by Cameron Rangeley 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Hi Guys Any idea what is wrong with this command?? find /home/path/* -name *.sql -exec mysql -p password -h < {} \; I am needing to import about 250 sql files. Cameron Rangeley Technical Director Phone: +64 9 970 5550 Direct: +64 9 970 5551 Mobile: +64 21 343 757 Email: cameron.rangeley(a)turnstone.co.nz <mailto:cameron.rangeley(a)turnstone.co.nz> Website: www.turnstone.co.nz <http://www.turnstone.co.nz>

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Wiki usage
by Glen Ogilvie 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

Hi, I am one of the members of Aucklug, and noticed the excellent wiki that the Waikato lug runs. Would you guys be open to us sharing the wiki, adding a few more pages that are Aucklug specific, linked from http://wiki.linux.net.nz/AuckLUG I don't see any point re-inventing the wheel, and the wiki already has many great references to things like Linux, NZLUG, etc. I want to put up a page for a start with some venue information on it, and a page for the next presentation where people can add ideas, RSVP, etc. Regards Glen Ogilvie

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Saturday Workshop - March 6th 10am-4pm
by Bruce Kingsbury 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

Saturday Workshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. http://wlug.org.nz/SaturdayWorkshop.2010-03-06

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Re: [wlug] C program.....
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 Feb '10

28 Feb '10

I missed the "f" out of if :( ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > Will someone please explain what I need to do to write and > run a C program in the bash terminal.I think I may need to > tell the terminal to run a c compiler. This is the outcome > of a program I copied from a tutorial. > john(a)sniffy:~$ #include <stdio.h> > john(a)sniffy:~$ int main() > bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' > I there is an easy to understand explanation I would like > to hear it please.. > Regards John > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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C program.....
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 Feb '10

28 Feb '10

Hi All, Will someone please explain what I need to do to write and run a C program in the bash terminal.I think I may need to tell the terminal to run a c compiler. This is the outcome of a program I copied from a tutorial. john(a)sniffy:~$ #include <stdio.h> john(a)sniffy:~$ int main() bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' I there is an easy to understand explanation I would like to hear it please.. Regards John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Brother printer stopped working
by Glenn Ramsey 18 Feb '10

18 Feb '10

Hi, My Brother HL-2140 printer which has been working perfectly has suddenly stopped working. I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 on amd64 which I keep up to date and I guess it was due to a recent update, but I don't use it all that much so I don't know exactly when it got broken. I enabled debug logging in cups and it shows that something is seg faulting. The log is posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8846976 Anyone have any advice about how to fix it? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Feb '10

18 Feb '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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The dog ate my bootloader!
by Eric Light 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

Hi everyone, Well the subject line says it all... There was an update yesterday that came in for Ubuntu Netbook Remix (9.10). Downloaded, installed, rebooted, and now I just get dumped into Grub. Immediately before the Grub screen comes up, it quickly flashes something that MAY be the words "Try hdd(0,0) NTFS". Then I get the sh:grub> prompt. OK So I don't know anything about Grub or what I'm doing in it. I've typed ls and I get: (loop0), (hd0), and (hd0,1). I tried boot /vmlinuz, and I get "Error: no loaded kernel"; tried linux /vmlinuz, and I get "Error: wrong magic number". Not sure what else I should try. Does anyone have any advice to get my netbook up and running again? I'm back to Windows 7 Starter! (argh, argh, argh) Thanks in advance! Cheers, - Eric

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Ge Force FX 5200
by Chris O'Halloran 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Hello, I am looking to build a MythTV box for a friend using a satellite card to capture/watch/record Freeview. I've already got my own box working. Prior to HD, I understand the Nvidia GeForce FX5200 was considered a good graphics card and is infact what I use (more by luck than design). It has an TV-OUT RCA socket. Would anyone on the list have something like that spare that they would be willing to sell? If you wish to reply, please reply to me off list. Cheers, Chris

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Linux Mint 8 (Helena) 32 bit tested
by Wayne Grimsey 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Hey guys. If anyone's interested, I've installed Linux Mint Helena (32 bit) on my Compaq Presario Notebook. Decided that, since my Gloria was getting a bit buggy in regards to updates and sound, it was time to take the plunge. Helena runs like a dream, drivers and wireless work fine with no fuss. They've improved the general aesthetics. Additionally, you can now do OEM installations. They've also improved the layout of many menu's. You can also choose to ignore certain updates. Be interesting to see what other goodies I discover over the next few weeks. If anyone wants the ISO, just give me a yell, at the next Fix-It day. Wayne. _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 14 Feb '10

14 Feb '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Feb '10

07 Feb '10

I am coming to add some dumb to the group Regards john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I'll be there with the library, and a freshly burned copy > of gobolinuxI'm wanting to try out.On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at > 1:41 PM, Liz Quilty <liz(a)velofille.com> wrote:>>> On 5 > February 2010 13:17, Ronnie Collinson > <notthinking(a)gmail.com> wrote:>>>> 44km, Liz are you > crazy? Hopefully theres others turning up, would be>> > rather boring if no one else did>>>> Clearly I am crazy. I > Signed upf ro the Oxfam 100km walk this year, its just> > training. DOing it as a part of a team. Incidentally feel > free to sponsor us> - need to make $2500 in donations to > just enter, its for a good cause though> :)>> > http://www.oxfam.org.nz/events/teams.asp?a=show_team_pages&eventid=24&teami…>> > Liz>>>>>> On 2/5/10, James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> > wrote:>> > I'm planning on being there. Â Have a hp/compaq > laptop that's been>> > loaned to me while my desktop is > kaputnik and I've installed Ubuntu>> > 9.10 on it. > Â Working well but I've no clue how to get the wifi > going>> > (or even if it can be got going - it's an HP > lappy after all!) >> >>> > This thing's a BRICK! Â Old > school 1440x1080 native res!>> >>> > J>> >>> > On 5 > February 2010 07:33, Rene Bartosh <kirjava(a)hblug.org.nz> > wrote:>> >> Morning folks,>> >>>> >> Is anyone planning to > attend this meeting? I have just moved to>> >> Hamilton > from the Hawkes Bay and wouldn't mind popping in to meet > a>> >> few WLUG people.>> >>>> >> Cheers,>> >>>> >> Rene>> > >>>> >> On 5 February 2010 06:27, Meeting Reminder bot > <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> wrote:>> >>> A reminder; the WLUG Fixit > Meeting is tomorrow.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > Â -------------------------------------------------------- > -------------->> >>> First Saturday workshop for 2010!!!>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau PÅ«tahi>> > >>> > (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ > ptahi/), the>> >>> community church at the end of Oxford > Street.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> We'll have the usual tables, > power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee,>> >>> BBQ>> >>> > lunch, etc.>> >>>>> >>> If there's something you > specifically want to work on please menti on>> >>> it>> > >>> on the mailing list in advance so we can study up > beforehand or bring>> >>> any>> >>> necessary equipment.>> > >>>>> >>> > _______________________________________________>> >>> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> >>> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -->> >> From Rene Bartosh (Gmail > account) <kirjava(a)gmail.com>>> >> Personal: > http://kirjava.net.nz/>> >> > _______________________________________________>> >> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>>> >>> > >>> >>> > -->> > James Pluck>> > A Cruce Salus>> >>> > Ted > Turner Â - "Sports is like a war without the killing." ->> > > > http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html>> > > _______________________________________________>> > wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>> > _______________________________________________>> wlug mai > ling list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>>> > _______________________________________________> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>>_______________________________________________wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nzUnsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First Saturday workshop for 2010!!! SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment.

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Self intro & Hamilton handmade Tux's
by Roger Sinel 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

Hiya, Just to introduce myself, I'm a expat Kiwi from Hamilton. I live and work in Stockholm Sweden with FOSS in a large RHEL environment. I'm also very involved in the FOSS community in Sweden. I'm back in Hamilton on Holiday and will come along to the fix it meeting tomorrow to show my face amongst the WLUG before we fly back next week. I've been luckily enough to get my mother to sew up a few soft toy Tuxes for me. And also a large on that I will use for Software Freedom Day 2010 and for other FOSS gatherings that I'm involved organizing. My mother is interested in sewing these Tuxes for the Linux community if there is any interest for them here. Please let me know if anybody is interested and keep it in mind as situations come up from time to time where tuxes really add that little bit extra to a FOSS event. Check out these pictures I just took of the two finished Tuxes. http://picasaweb.google.com/roger.sinel/KiwiTuxMadeInNewZealand?feat=direct… Looking forward to meeting some of you tomorrow. /roger -- Roger Sinel www.nordickiwi.com "The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." Frank Herbert (1920 - 1986)

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Linux/Tux Keyboard
by Liz Quilty 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

Heya Just letting you know im selling the Tux/Linux Keyboard i was given a few months back (i never used it) to fundraise for Oxfam. If you are interested have a looky at http://velofille.com/2010/02/05/linuxtux-keyboard-for-sale-oxfam-fundraiser/ Liz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First Saturday workshop for 2010!!! SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment.

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Benq Scanner s2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Before starting the procedure outlined on the WLUG webpages on how to install this scanner, I entered the first instruction into a terminal. The output was: zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ tail -f /var/log/messages Feb 2 14:31:51 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called Feb 2 14:31:51 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [zed] Feb 2 14:43:16 zed-desktop kernel: [201541.333127] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4 Feb 2 14:45:32 zed-desktop kernel: [201678.008023] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 Feb 2 14:45:33 zed-desktop kernel: [201678.222085] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 2 17:39:38 zed-desktop kernel: [212123.386301] scanimage[16779]: segfault at 68 ip 001e4852 sp bfd7afe4 error 4 in libpthread-2.10.1.so[1de000+15000] Feb 2 17:45:35 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called Feb 2 17:45:35 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [zed] Feb 2 17:45:56 zed-desktop kernel: [212501.455456] scanimage[16875]: segfault at 68 ip 00386852 sp bfbeb654 error 4 in libpthread-2.10.1.so[380000+15000] Feb 2 18:02:34 zed-desktop kernel: [213499.605729] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 5 I had just turned the scanner off. I have no idea what this means. Perhaps someone does! Zed -- Zed Clean your monitor, I can't see out

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Benq Scanner S2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Using LinuxMint v8.0 Helena. Some time go I purchased one of these scanners, after I found through http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/scanners-usb.html that they work with Linux, and downloaded and installed sane-backends-1.0.19 and sane-frontends-1.0.14 as suggested. Xsane is installed, also. However, when I clicked on XSane to launch the scanner the following error appeared: Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:001:002': Invalid argument. A search for snapscan:libusb:001:002 does not find it but a libusb command in the Terminal shows that it is installed. At that time, and this is over a year ago, I decided not to bother about it and abandoned the idea. However, I recently came back to the problem - after all why have a scanner sitting on the desk if it doesn't work :-). So, I downloaded the HowTo on your website http://www.wlug.org.nz/Benq3300/4300ScannerSetup and carefully followed the directions. Regrettably the scanner still does not work. When I first ran xSane, the window opened. Clicked on Preview and the scanner sprang into action - well, it made noises as if something was going to happen - and then the xSane window closed. Ran xSane again and got the error message: Failed to open device 'snapscan:lisusb:002:00': Error during device I/O Entered the Terminal and did lusb, with the following result zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04a5:20b0 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 3300U/4300U Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03f0:2f17 Hewlett-Packard EWS 2605dn Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ So, the Device is there but xSane is "throwing a wobbly" :( Opened the GIMP to use your suggestion that clicking on Acquire is the easiest way to get the scanner working but I cannot find Acquire in any of the menus in GIMP v2.6.7 >From time to time the scanner "chatters" to itself - the light comes on and flickers, becomes steady and then goes off. I don't know whether that is significant or not. I have searched Google for the error and although there are numerous entries none seem to apply to my problem. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Zed -- Zed Dogs crawl under Gates, software crawls under Windoze.

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Benq Scanner S2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Further to my earlier email, and the comments about the GIMP v2.6.7, a little further searching led me to the fact that it was necessary to go to File - Create - xSane - Device dialogue...snapscan:libusb:002:004. Clicking on this returns the I/O error. Zed -- Zed Diplomacy: The Vaseline of political intercourse

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Trouble printing to a Fuji Xerox Workcentre 220
by Eric Light 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Hi everyone, I've got a swanky new Fuji Xerox Workcentre 220. It's connected to my WinXP laptop via USB, which then shares it over Windows File & Print sharing to my network. For all connected Windows machines (x4) it's working fine. However for my EeePC (1005HA) running Ubuntu NBR 9.10, it won't print at all. There are no specific drivers for it. However the printer suggests that it does "PCL6/PostScript 3 Emulation", and I've tried both the Postscript and the PCL6 & PCL5e drivers. All of these choices make the printer warm up, but none of them actually end up in the printer printing anything. I've trawled the Internet, but may have been looking for the wrong thing. Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers, - Eric

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OpenSuSE DVDs
by Graham Lauder 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

I have some OpenSuSE 11.2 DVDs left over from the LCA Open Day if anyone wants one. They're dual layer DVD's and have both 64 and 32 bit versions and they can run both Gnome and KDE live sessions. As per usual for OpenSuSE DVDs it has Desktop, Server and Developer tools all on the DVD and no need for an internet connection to get a full production server or desktop or development environment up and running. (Nvidia Drivers for Compiz excepted) (Enlightment, XFCE and Windowmaker desktop environments also included) Put hand up and I'll bring some up to the next WLUG meeting, or I'll put them in the post if needed urgently! Cheers G -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz

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please remove
by Malcolm & Rosalie Heath 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Please remove Malcolm Heath's email address from your address book as he passed away just before Christmas.

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Re: [wlug] Anyone got blown AM2 motherboards going spare?
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

I have a "AN50R" board 750 socket cpu with heat sink and a TWO screw plastic clamp if you are able to modify you are welcome to it. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > My CPU heatsink clamp (the shield on the motherboard) has > snapped. I'm looking for a blown motherboard that I can > remove the heatsink clamp from to replace it. > > I need the style that is held down by 4 screws through the > board into a rectangular shield on the underside of the > board. > > Can anyone help? > > > > -- > James Pluck > A Cruce Salus > > Pablo Picasso - "Computers are useless. They can only > give you answers." - > http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Anyone got blown AM2 motherboards going spare?
by James Pluck 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

My CPU heatsink clamp (the shield on the motherboard) has snapped. I'm looking for a blown motherboard that I can remove the heatsink clamp from to replace it. I need the style that is held down by 4 screws through the board into a rectangular shield on the underside of the board. Can anyone help? -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus Pablo Picasso - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html

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Question-- Android LUG?
by Luke Hutchison 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Does anyone know if there is a Google Android User Group in NZ? I have been hacking on the Linux kernel and Java events framework for Android (for example, I got multi-touch scaling working on the original G1 Android phone: http://bit.ly/16VDI ). Android is a fun stack to hack on at the operating system level, the Java framework level, and the app level. By the way, sorry for the spam but I have a brand-new extra Google Nexus One cellphone (with 1GHz Snapdragon processor and high-res OLED screen) here in NZ, please reply to me directly off-list if you are interested. Thanks, Luke Hutchison luke.hutch(a)gmail.com

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LCA2010 live streams
by John Billings 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Some of us are down here at LCA, but you can also watch sessions on the site here: http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule/video Cheers, John

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Backports
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Hello All, I am running Karmic Kooala Kubuntu 9.10 Recently I added the back-ports repository to install the latest version of Digikam and Amajoke, I mean Amarok. Well they both installed and then the update manager told mean about all the latest KDE goodness I could install so I upgraded. Well KDE-plasma now likes to hit 80-90% CPU usuage and is wearing out my cooling fans. Can I go back to a non-backports version of my machine? I still want ultimately to have the latest version of Digikam but revert everthing else, including Amarok to version 1.4 again. Is it a matter of disabling the backport repo and doing 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ? Any thoughts? Chris

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Re: [wlug] Mint Updates
by Wayne Grimsey 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Happy new year John Here's the result of entering "cat /etc/apt/sources.list": (Hi Chris, ... and yes it does fail everytime.) ## LINUX MINT REPOSITORIES ## ----------------------- ## +++ Linux Mint 7 Gloria (stable) +++ deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria main upstream import ## +++ Backports (not as stable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria backport ## +++ Community (not as stable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria community ## +++ Romeo (unstable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria romeo ## +++ Source Repositories +++ # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria main upstream import # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria community # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria backport # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria romeo ## ------------------- ## UBUNTU REPOSITORIES ## ------------------- ## +++ Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty (stable) +++ deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted universe multiverse deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted universe multiverse ## +++ Backports & Proposed (not as stable) +++ # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ## +++ Source Repositories +++ # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ## ------------------ ## OTHER REPOSITORIES ## ------------------ ## +++ Canonical (stable) +++ deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ jaunty partner ## +++ Medibuntu (stable) +++ deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ jaunty free non-free deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu/ hardy main deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/amarok14/ubuntu jaunty main Also here's a sample of an error message when attempting to use mintUpdate via the GUI: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta… 404 Not Found > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:25:29 +1300 > From: Wayne Grimsey <wgrimsey(a)hotmail.com> > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Linux Mint Updates > Message-ID: <SNT124-W238FD21991A39BA12F307CC66C0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Team . > > Happy new year. > > Whenever I use the GUI screen to complete Mint Updates, I receive 404 messages relating to unable to find servers, links etc. I've managed a workaround by typing apt upgrade each time I need to install the updates. I'm currently using the 64 bit version of Gloria. I've tried refreshing the repositories etc, but there is obviously something else I need to do. > > Any ideas? > > Kind regards > Wayne > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to be a Space Travel Agent? If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639089/direct/01/ >

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Re: [wlug] LCA2010
by Eric Light 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

John - Yep I'll be there as well. Travelling down by car on Saturday after dinner, staying at ski club lodge in National Park, then leaving circa 8am Sunday morning for the newcomer's meet. Looking forward to catching up again! Liz - Definitely keen for a curry at some point too! :-) Cheers, - Eric On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LCA2010 (John Billings) > 2. Re: LCA2010 (Ronnie Collinson) > 3. Re: LCA2010 (Liz Quilty) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:22:06 +1300 > From: John Billings <john(a)nimhq.net> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] LCA2010 > Message-ID: <4B498E2E.5060500(a)nimhq.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hey, > > LCA2010 is almost here, I know Liz, Ronnie, Stephen and myself are > going. Anyone else going? Sometime during the week I thought it might > be nice to have an informal WLUG get together in Welly, and talk about > what we would like to accomplish in the next year. Specifically I'm > aiming this at the committee members, but anyone else is welcome to join > if you happen to be there. > > Best, > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:35:08 +1300 > From: Ronnie Collinson <notthinking(a)gmail.com> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] LCA2010 > Message-ID: > <2d52a3b41001100335m347fc8e4u5e095a4d8a51a756(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Would be good to have a meatup while down there, prehaps at the bar > mentioned on the LCA webpage one evening? >

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Linux Mint Updates
by Wayne Grimsey 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Hi Team . Happy new year. Whenever I use the GUI screen to complete Mint Updates, I receive 404 messages relating to unable to find servers, links etc. I've managed a workaround by typing apt upgrade each time I need to install the updates. I'm currently using the 64 bit version of Gloria. I've tried refreshing the repositories etc, but there is obviously something else I need to do. Any ideas? Kind regards Wayne _________________________________________________________________ Want to be a Space Travel Agent? If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639089/direct/01/

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LCA2010
by John Billings 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

Hey, LCA2010 is almost here, I know Liz, Ronnie, Stephen and myself are going. Anyone else going? Sometime during the week I thought it might be nice to have an informal WLUG get together in Welly, and talk about what we would like to accomplish in the next year. Specifically I'm aiming this at the committee members, but anyone else is welcome to join if you happen to be there. Best, John

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Rsync and Samba
by Cameron Rangeley 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

Hi Guys I am running two RHEL boxes, each day I am rsyncing some data from my primary server to my secondary server. I am rsyncing the entire /home partition. On my primary server there are about 8 samba shares for data that the clients can access all the samba shares point to various sub-directories within /home. My issue is that on my secondary server I cant connect to the shares from a windows workstation. My smb.conf file is exactly the same as my primary server and to test I have created a test mount in /mnt/test and I can connect to that fine. It appears that the issue is all around the fact that these directories that have been created with rsync. My rsync command is: rsync -arzgopulv --delete /home root(a)192.168.9.2:/ My smbd.log file says: '/home/folder/folder/folder does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [akemail] Error was Permission denied. I can see the folder in samba I have forced the user as root and I have chmodded the folder to 777. Access from the console to these files and folders works fine. Has anyone got any other ideas that I can try? Thanks Cameron

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Multi function scanner permissions
by Ron Dean 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

I have a Brother MFC-260c multifunction printer scanner fax It prints OK but the scanner only operates under root What steps do I take to alter the permissions on the scanner and how do I find out the correct path when I change permissions it is connected through usb -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Python syntax
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hello all, Here is a bit of code that I am getting my head around. It's out of a book that I am using to teach myself matplotlib, a python library for making graphs etc. The following code is using an object-orientated approach in preparation for embedding the graph within an GUI application. <code> #!/usr/bin/env python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import matplotlib.pyplot as plt import numpy as np x = np.arange(0, 10, 0.1) y = np.random.randn(len(x)) fig = plt.figure() ax = fig.add_subplot(111) l, = plt.plot(x, y) t = ax.set_title('random numbers') plt.show() </code> The line l, = plt.plot(x, y) has got me slighty confused because l = plt.plot(x, y) also works, without the trailing comma after the l I was wondering if any Python coders might comment to the comma's significance. I've scanned my four books on Python and can't find any reference. Cheers, Chris

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Knoppix
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hello all, Here is a question from another forum that no one seems to be able to answer. Does any of our know what can be done as I have had similar issues with knoppix of late. Tried no acpi with difference.. Regards John Hi, I've had a copy of Knoppix for years. I think it is version 3, anyway it is several years old and works well. I thought i'd update it and so downloaded 6.2 CD. When it booted up it goes to a text interface.I looked through the options and it had a graphical version of firefox listed so I tried that and it started loading but then the monitor went into standby. So I then downloaded the DVD. It started booting, started loading the interface and the same happened. The monitor went into standby. It loads the first screen with the linux logo in the top left and starts loading things like Hal and Sound with a green loading bar. Then it had a couple of lines of text (root(a)....) Then it goes to a black sreen with the cursor in the top left and after a couple of seconds the monitor turns off. The disk is still loading. I've had a surf and tried a few cheatcodes (screen=800x600, vga=0, vsync=60 etc) but i'm not really sure what i'm doing. Is it a known issue and does anyone know how to fix it? __________________ Cheers, Degs

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Openmoko Freerunner A6 for sale
by Matt Brown 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

Hi, Is anyone interested in buying one of the Openmoko open source phones to play with? I know they've been hard/expensive to get in NZ, so this may be your chance... I'm selling my Freerunner. I purchased it from Pulster over a year ago and used it for several months before I received an Android phone and sadly my Freerunner has been sitting gathering dust since then. I'd rather someone who had the time was using it for something useful, so I'm putting it on the market. It's in excellent condition: GTA02 A6 - Serial 8A8810247 - Original box - Charger with foreign adaptors - 512MB microSD card and SD card adapter No USB cable (missing in shipment from Pulster) No Stylus/Laser pen (lost) I purchased the phone for around 400 euro a year ago, and have barely used it. I'll consider any reasonable NZD offer for it. I'm in Hamilton until the end of the year and can deliver to the local area or arrange for you to pick up the phone. Replies by private mail please. -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +353 86 608 7117 www.mattb.net.nz

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HP laptop power socket needed
by Bryce Utting 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Hi all, Finally got around to poking around in my dead nx5000. just a wild guess here, but I kinda suspect that if a plug has 18+V on it yet the socket only meters at 0.56V across its terminals when the plug's in it, then there's possibly a -slight- chance the socket needs replacing... (especially since I noticed arcs from the socket shortly before it stopped booting) Anyone have any useful parts? should be able to get a photo up once I've charged some batteries. would prefer not to drop a DSE part in, since while the plug's a standard 2.5mm-ish one, the socket's got two ground lugs to each side, and are probably needed for structural reasons. (yep, will stop by Jaycar. would like to close it all back up reasonably soonish though so I can get my table back!) ta, butting

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Digital Cameras and Linux
by Chris O'Halloran 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hello all, I know there are some photography enthusiasts on this list. I am considering purchasing a digital SLR camera. I bought a film based SLR camera about 6 years ago but it would seem it is time to move on. The previous camera was a Nikon F55 and I had purchased a few filters and a 300mm telephoto lens. Even though it was an entry level camera, I was generally happy with the quality of the images. In previous reading on this topic, I understand the opinion varies amongst manufacturers on the various file formats and how well they allow the RAW file formats to be extracted from the camera. The two brands I am mostly considering at this stage are Nikon and Canon. Would anyone care to comment if a Linux user is likely to have a preference for either and/or if there is another brand that is very Linux friendly? I like the idea of a camera that uses SD cards and possibly conventional batteries but that requirement isn't hard n fast. Additionally if there is some way to use my legacy 300m telephoto lens, that would also be cool but I'm resigned to it being incompatible. Thanks for any thoughts offered, just thought I'd ask. Cheers, Chris

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performance difference between a swap partition vs a swap file >>>>>
by Narender 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

I have done a lot of research, but I do not have any real world experience so I'm hoping you can help me understand the real world differences in performance. The research tells me that if you create a swap file on an empty disk and on a OS using kernel 2.6 then the performance differences are minor, but that the swap partition is a slight favorite in terms of pure performance. Our Scenario: Raid 1 146GB partition 33GB Swap File created on / (Note: the swap file was created when the OS was built, so the hard drives were not full and they were very empty) Kernel 2.6 Best Regards N

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Newbee near the university with vanishing XP cursor needs help
by Robert D Davidson 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Hi Wlug, A computer newbee with XP who lives in Hillcrest and runs a property development business needs computer help. From an initial consultation with him, at my local cafe in Morrinsville, he seems like a canditate of a simple port to Lynix on his existing hardware. He is prepared to format his hardrive to solve his problems. Anyone interested please contact me for his details. I haven't discussed costs with him but I guess this would be a paying job at his expense as he wants a speedy response. Cheers Robert

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of year BBQ and saturday workshop SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since this is the last workshop of the year we're also going to make this the end of year BBQ We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc.

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WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by Bruce Kingsbury 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Sorry for the short notice, but I didn't realise I hadn't put this on the Wiki already; The WLUG annual BBQ and get together will be on Saturday at Te Whanau Putahi (at the end of Oxford St), along with the regular Saturday Workshop. workshop is 10am-4pm, BBQ will be somewhere around 12-1pm. This will be the last meeting for the year, and a good time to renew your membership for next year! Hope to see you there.. Bruce

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AJAX and jQuery help please?
by James Pluck 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Hi all! Is there anyone out there who is adept with jQuery, javascript and AJAX? I have an ajax call in the application that I am working on that is the root of a Heisenbug that is causing me some grief! I have pruned the call to the collowing code: <code> function addPublication ( pubID, pubName, pubCategories ){ alert ( "in addPublication" ); var xhr = $.ajax ({ url: "/publisher/ajax/addpub.php", type: "POST", data: ({ id: pubID, name: pubName, "categories[]": pubCategories }), success: function(){ alert ( "We're Back from addpublication" ); } }); alert ( "*" + xhr.responseText + "*" ); }; </code> The post that is generated from this is correct and if I manually send that post data to the php script I get the expected results (at the moment all the script does is generate an empty page with a "print_r" of the post data. However, the ajax call randomly returns correctly or returns with "error - undefined error." Firebug is distressingly unhelpful in that all it does is show the url in red in the console and no errors or anything! I have found on occasion that erasing the url and retyping it exactly will cause the bug to disappear but any editting of the js file after that will cause the bug to return. The ironic thing is that when I have the full function of the php script activated it actually does the task that it is supposed to do correctly - except that I have to refresh the page to see the result instead of the ajax refreshing the page properly. Argh! can anyone shed some light? -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus Charles de Gaulle - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 26 Nov '09

26 Nov '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of year BBQ and saturday workshop SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since this is the last workshop of the year we're also going to make this the end of year BBQ We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc.

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Re: [wlug] WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Nov '09

25 Nov '09

I will do some head poking also. Regards John > > Speaking of turnout, who's coming? > I will poke my head in - but I'm helping a friend move > house so I don't know when. I won't be there for the BBQ > but I'll be there at some point :) > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by Sam Lin 24 Nov '09

24 Nov '09

Ouch... I'll be away for attending a conference in Wellington for the rest of this week. Leave some meat for me~~

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Nov '09

22 Nov '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) 2009 AGM Agenda Approval of 2008 AGM minutes President's Report Treasurer's Report Election of Officers (Don't forget to do CommitteeHandover this year) General Business

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WLUG meeting jan/feb
by Roger Sinel 22 Nov '09

22 Nov '09

Hi, I'm an expat living in Stockholm Sweden. Coming back home to Hamilton for a month and are interested in coming alone to a meeting if your having one between 10jan-10feb 2010. Anything else happening around regarding FOSS in NZ during this time? /Roger Sinel http://www.nordickiwi.com --

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[OT] kiwicon - ride
by Brad Cowie 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Hello list, Is anyone off to kiwicon this year and has room for another person in their car? Need a lift from Hamilton this year. Email me offlist. Thanks.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) 2009 AGM Agenda Approval of 2008 AGM minutes President's Report Treasurer's Report Election of Officers (Don't forget to do CommitteeHandover this year) General Business

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Access brothers computer?
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Hi All, Is there a simple way for me to access my brothers windows vista computer in Wanganui from my Ubuntu box? I have access to his internet account and can get my sis in law to change the windows permissions if need be... Regards John..

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Re: [wlug] FreeGeek
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 17 Nov '09

17 Nov '09

Hi John, I would be a starter for that Free Geek thing. As you well know I am not a Geek but am trying hard to become a "g." I can mess around with things under someones guidance and come up with positive results most times ( I own a hammer for those other times <g> ) any how. For what it is worth, my hand is up. All the best John........

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Bad move!
by Michael McDonald 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

When my Linksys router/modem failed, I bought an Asus DSL-G31 router/modem. It's quite a nice unit and has wireless. In my naivety I thought a router/modem was a router/modem! Not so, it seems - I have a problem. I also have Linksys PAP2T telephone adapter connecting to a VOIP connection at Xnet. However, the Asus router seems to blocking the VOIP connection. Checking back on the Xnet website, I see that the only router/modems listed as being compatible with Xnet's service are Linksys models. The Asus has SIP enabled, but I presume that the PAP2T is not using SIP. Xnet tech suggested unlocking the PAP2T, going back to factory default settings, and re-provisioning the PAP2T. It seems that the re-provisioning has taken place as Line 1 has the correct telephone number. Does anyone have any suggestions? The simplest way out may to just to buy a Linksys router/modem. I notice that Xnet seems to have support for Asterisk (but there are no instructions for it). I've got a spare computer, so downloaded and installed AsteriskNOW. That was the easy part. I am completely bewildered about getting it configured! Michael

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Fwd: [NZOSS-Openchat] Invitation to complete IT Vendor Capability Survey
by Bruce Kingsbury 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

Not sure if this already got crossposted, and I suspect most of us are also on the NZLUG list.. but ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brenda Chawner <Brenda.Chawner(a)vuw.ac.nz> Date: 2009/11/13 Subject: [NZOSS-Openchat] Invitation to complete IT Vendor Capability Survey To: NZOSS Open Discussion List <openchat(a)lists.nzoss.org.nz> I would like to invite you to complete an online survey designed to find out what services New Zealand IT vendors can offer to support a free software desktop. Free software is software released under a license that supports the four essential software freedoms, which allow users to * run the program for any purpose (Freedom 0) * study the source code, and improve it to better meet their needs (Freedom 1) * distribute copies of the software to others (Freedom 2) * distribute modified versions of the software to others (Freedom 3) For more information about free software, please see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The survey is being conducted by the New Zealand Open Source Society and the School of Information Management at Victoria University of Wellington as part of the Public Sector Remix project, which seeks to demonstrate the viability of free software for use by New Zealand government agencies. It includes questions about your current services, including * end user support and training, * desktop configuration management, and * server integration You are also asked to provide information about which free software packages are used within your organisation, and how people from your organisation contribute to free software projects. Before starting to complete the survey, you may find it useful to find out what free software packages other staff within your organisation use, and whether they contribute to the projects in any way. It should take you up to 45 minutes to complete the survey. The data you provide will be stored securely in a password-protected file for up to two years, and only the researchers will have access to it. The aggregated results will be shared with the government agencies who are participating in the Public Sector Remix project, and they may be presented at conferences such as GOVIS, or published in academic, professional, or industry journals. No organisations or individuals will be named in any presentations or publications that report on the results of this survey. A summary of the results will be published on the New Zealand Open Source Society website once the data is analysed; this is likely to be in early 2010. The survey starts at http://survey.publicsectorremix.org.nz/index.php?sid=87388&lang=en If you have any questions about the survey, please contact: Brenda Chawner brenda.chawner(a)vuw.ac.nz. For more information about the Public Sector Remix project, please contact: John Rankin john.rankin(a)affinity.co.nz. -- Brenda Chawner Senior Lecturer School of Information Management Victoria University of Wellington P O Box 600, Wellington NEW ZEALAND (04) 463 5780 | fax (04) 463 5446 | Room EA201 | brenda.chawner(a)vuw.ac.nz _______________________________________________ Openchat mailing list Openchat(a)lists.nzoss.org.nz http://lists.nzoss.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/openchat -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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windows thru Linux
by David Giles 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

Hi, I run Mandriva as my main operating system, but on a second computer I have windows 98 to run a small [windows only] accounting program. Can I join the computers together and operate the accounts program through Linux? The program will run on a Mack using virtual PC. Does linux have a similar program and would windows have to be loaded onto the computer? Regards, David

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) 2009 AGM Agenda Approval of 2008 AGM minutes President's Report Treasurer's Report Election of Officers (Don't forget to do CommitteeHandover this year) General Business

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Karmic review
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Karmic review, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/29/ubuntu_9_10_review/

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Sendmail + catchall account
by Narender 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hi Is there any way of creating a 'catchall' or a default account that all undelivered mail can go to ? eg if we have 3 user accounts (user1, user2, admin) already set up, but someone sends an email to user3(a)mydomain.com, can sendmail figure out that it doesn't match any existing users and deliver it to admin(a)mydomain.com ? I am using sendmail-8.13.1-3.RHEL4.5 Best Regards N

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday November 7th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Getting the keyboard and mouse back after a power cut
by Glenn Ramsey 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Hi, I have a Dell laptop in a docking station running Kubuntu 8.10. After a short power cut the keyboard and mouse (ps/2) do not work. I can ssh into it but I'm not sure how to reinitialise the kdb and mouse. Have tried restarting kdm, restarting udev and removing and reloading the psmouse module (couldn't see a module that looked like it might have something to do with the keyboard), but that doesn't fix it. The only way I can currently do it is to reboot. Anyone know how to do this? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Fwd: [nzlug] Dialup on Slingshot
by Bruce Kingsbury 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Can't remember who was having problems with dialup a couple of meetings back, but a similar issue has come up on the nzlinux mailing list so this information may be useful to someone. Or you can bring it along (again) to the saturdayworkshop end of year BBQ Nov 28th and we'll take another look at it. (useful ppp options down the bottom of the following mail) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Graham Lauder <gl(a)openopportunities.co.nz> Date: 2009/10/22 Subject: Re: [nzlug] Dialup on Slingshot To: NZLUG Mailing List <nzlug(a)linux.net.nz> On Wednesday 21 October 2009 08:58:39 Mark Foster wrote: [...] > > Having been on the other side (Helpdesk'r for several years - including > for Slingshot ironically enough (though a very long time ago) - try it > from a helpdesk's POV. > > - Probably nil experience with Linux and linux software. > - Fault unable to be duplicated from a windows box? (I think that's what I > read). > - Working from one OS and not another would point to an OS specific fault, > not an ISP specific fault. I would doubt that many ISPs actually provide > helpdesk services with Linux in mind. > [....] Yep all of the above, interestingly, I'll give them ups for one thing the first guy I talked to had a pretty good shot at trying to help which was very good considering that he was probably doing it blind not being able to pull up an OpenSuSE desktop in front of him. > > Have to say that my answer would've been similar at any of the three ISP's > I performed tech support for. > > Unfortunately while there's essentially one way to configure dialup under > Windows, Linux offers too many gotchas around modem drivers, dialup > software, GUI vs CLI, for support staff to be proficient with the > environment (Unless, somehow, they have both time and inclination to > fiddle with many of these.) > > Most helpdesk'rs I have known are afforded precious little professional > development time, so what they know = what they are experienced with. > > (The social win, as it were, would be to improve linux experience levels > amongst those who work on helpdesks. This will have a flow-on effect to > the capabilities the ISPs provide). Agreed, toward that, I'm going to email the fix to them and the ppp/options file, you never know it may be useful to them. > > Anyone know any ISPs who explicitly provide Linux tech support? (And more > importantly, where that offer is not tied to the skills of one or two > individuals (aka SPOF's))? I'm not sure here but is /etc/ppp/options common to all distros and/or Desktop Environments. I'm using KDE and Kinternet and the assumption is that all distros running KDE should be the same. Does the Gnome desktop use the same location and options file? That's obviously significant because of Ubuntu's position in the market. If I'm going to help the Helpdesk'rs that would be useful for them to know. One of the advantages of course is that we're dealing with a text file. A text file looks the same in windows or whatever. Of course there are certain questions here, Does the user know how to open a terminal and run it as a superuser/root ? Does the user know how to use a text editor? Does the user know what KDE or Gnome is? Given that there are more and more "less than technical" endusers of Linux out there, affirmative answers to all of the above are not so much a given any more However assuming a reasonable level of knowledge a process could be: What's your Desktop environment: Gnome or KDE KDE: Open Konsole Do su Enter super-user password at request type kate at the prompt in the address field type /etc/ppp/options Gnome : Open terminal do sudo gedit Enter password at request in the address field type /etc/ppp/options then it's simply a matter of stepping through the text file. >From Johns mail In KDE on OpenSuSE > ============= lock (This one was already set) noauth (same here) defaultroute (wvdial does this by default in any case) ipcp-max-configure 65 (This doesn't appear to be necessary) ipcp-accept-local (uncomment this line) ipcp-accept-remote (uncomment this one as well) idle 600 (already set) > ============= So then, at least in my system receive-all (add this line) ipcp-accept-local (uncomment this line) ipcp-accept-remote (uncomment this one as well) That's a relatively easy fix. The question is, is /etc/ppp/options the same on other distros, particularly Ubuntu. It would be good to know before I ping this off to the Slingshot helpdesk. Any other comments? Cheers GL -- Open Opportunities Ltd http//:www.openopportunities.co.nz Open Technologies Migration and Change Management Consultants Front Office ICT Training and Certification Web Presence Management Consultancy SuSE Linux Enterprise and OpenOffice.org specialists _______________________________________________ NZLUG mailing list NZLUG(a)linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nzlug -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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Karmic Koala
by Chris O'Halloran 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hi guys, I tried to be sensible and wait for other online reviews first but in the end I couldn't resist and just hit upgrade to Karmic Koola for a Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope machine. The process worked flawlessly and I am impressed. It upgraded my virtual Windows XP machine (running on VirtualBox), keep Amarok 1.4 and didn't break Wine. Skype still works and the wireless configuration dialog is much improved. The Nvidia drivers were updated for the new kernel. And a few annoying bugs in Kontact are gone! That was the most painless update I've experienced. It still took about an hour a 800Kb/s ADSL connection and I had to answer a few questioned along the way but otherwise very impressed. Just though I'd share that. Cheers, Chris

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Re: [wlug] Karmic Koala
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hi Folks, Looks pretty good but I will be patient as I have promised myself a brand new box for after Christmas ( if too long after might be in time for lts release Hee Hee) Regards John. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi guys, > > I tried to be sensible and wait for other online reviews > first but in the end I couldn't resist and just hit > upgrade to Karmic Koola for a Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope > machine. > > The process worked flawlessly and I am impressed. It > upgraded my virtual Windows XP machine (running on > VirtualBox), keep Amarok 1.4 and didn't break Wine. Skype > still works and the wireless configuration dialog is much > improved. The Nvidia drivers were updated for the new > kernel. And a few annoying bugs in Kontact are gone! > > That was the most painless update I've experienced. It > still took about an hour a 800Kb/s ADSL connection and I > had to answer a few questioned along the way but otherwise > very impressed. > > Just though I'd share that. > > Cheers, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Oct '09

30 Oct '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 31st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since Karmic will have been released only days before, we're going to count this is as Karmic ReleaseParty We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 29 Oct '09

29 Oct '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 31st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since Karmic will have been released only days before, we're going to count this is as Karmic ReleaseParty We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, light lunch, etc.

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Fwd: RE: BADSIG... again different box
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

Sorry forgot add all. What happened to the auto munging thingy?? ----- Message Forwarded on Mon 26/10/2009 ----- From: "" <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> To: Steve Lisson <SteveL(a)dedicatedservers.net.au> Subject: RE: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:45:30 +1300 Fixed.... Thank you much Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Try this: > http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2009/04/hidden_linux_cant_up > grade_to_u.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaytee(a)clear.net.nz [mailto:jaytee(a)clear.net.nz] > Sent: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:43 PM > To: Steve Lisson > Subject: RE: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box > > Sun 25 Oct 1042 pm at the time of writing.. > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > Out of interest could you check the date/time on your > > system is correct? > > >

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is labour day, no meeting scheduled.

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Fwd: RE: BADSIG... again different box
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

----- Message Forwarded on Sun 25/10/2009 ----- From: "" <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> To: Steve Lisson <SteveL(a)dedicatedservers.net.au>,Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: RE: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:33:20 +1300 OK I did that and here is that output; Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com>" 9 new signatures gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: new signatures: 9 john(a)scratchy:~$ However the end result is the same. Did I make an error in the command?? Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi, > > Probably don't have the package installed that contains > the signing keys for the packages, do a search for > 'keyring', can't tell you the exact package for Ubuntu (as > run debian) but to give you an example this is the one > required for my system: > > debian-archive-keyring - GnuPG archive keys of the Debian > archive > > If you have added any repositories there is likely a > package specifically for that repository. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > [mailto:wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz > Sent: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:11 PM > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box > > Hi All, > Does anyone know why this is happening and what action I > can take to fix the problem? > Regards John > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_NZ > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse > Translation-en_NZ > Get:4 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates > Release [51.2kB] > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates/multiverse Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/multiverse Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe > Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse > Packages > Fetched 380B in 5s (71B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The > repository is not updated and the previous index files > will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com > intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were > invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic > Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> > > W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures were > invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic > Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> > W: Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/Release > > > W: Some index files failed to download, they have been > ignored, or old ones used instead. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

OK I did that and here is that output; Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com>" 9 new signatures gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: new signatures: 9 john(a)scratchy:~$ However the end result is the same. Did I make an error in the command?? Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi, > > Probably don't have the package installed that contains > the signing keys for the packages, do a search for > 'keyring', can't tell you the exact package for Ubuntu (as > run debian) but to give you an example this is the one > required for my system: > > debian-archive-keyring - GnuPG archive keys of the Debian > archive > > If you have added any repositories there is likely a > package specifically for that repository. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > [mailto:wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz > Sent: Sunday, 25 October 2009 7:11 PM > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box > > Hi All, > Does anyone know why this is happening and what action I > can take to fix the problem? > Regards John > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_NZ > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted > Translation-en_NZ > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse > Translation-en_NZ > Get:4 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates > Release [51.2kB] > Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates/multiverse Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe > Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > hardy-backports/multiverse Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe > Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid/restricted Packages > Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse > Packages > Fetched 380B in 5s (71B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The > repository is not updated and the previous index files > will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com > intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were > invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic > Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> > > W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com > intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures were > invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic > Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> > W: Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/Release > > > W: Some index files failed to download, they have been > ignored, or old ones used instead. > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] BADSIG... again different box
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

Thanks Steve, I will try the "keyring" Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi, > > Probably don't have the package installed that contains > the signing keys for the packages, do a search for > 'keyring', can't tell you the exact package for Ubuntu (as > run debian) but to give you an example this is the one > required for my system: > > debian-archive-keyring - GnuPG archive keys of the Debian > archive > > If you have added any repositories there is likely a > package specifically for that repository. > > Steve

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BADSIG... again different box
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Oct '09

25 Oct '09

Hi All, Does anyone know why this is happening and what action I can take to fix the problem? Regards John Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Get:4 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release [51.2kB] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports Release Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/universe Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/multiverse Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/restricted Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/multiverse Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Packages Fetched 380B in 5s (71B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster(a)ubuntu.com> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/Release W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

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25+ Useful Linux and Unix Cheat Sheets
by Peter Reutemann 23 Oct '09

23 Oct '09

These cheat sheets should be useful, not just for newbies: http://www.techieblogger.com/2009/10/linux-unix-ubuntu-solaris-cheat-sheets… Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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Upcoming Fixit Meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 23 Oct '09

23 Oct '09

The WLUG Fixit Meeting is 1 week away. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 31st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since Karmic will have been released only days before, we're going to count this is as Karmic ReleaseParty We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, light lunch, etc.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Oct '09

22 Oct '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is labour day, no meeting scheduled.

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Personalising Learning Environments with Quick Response (QR) Codes
by John Billings 20 Oct '09

20 Oct '09

Hi, There will be an interesting meeting next month presented by NZCS, Tuesday evening from 5:30 to 7pm, 10th November. WLUG members are invited to attend: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/87-Personalising_Learning_Environ… It's a free event but please register. I originally approached Dr. John Clayton to give a talk to WLUG about the work he's done with Moodle in the past. I also asked if I could interview him for community radio, which we did last week. In the course of the interview, he told me his new work involves researching QR Codes in education, and we thought that might be an interesting topic for a presentation. Since we are having an AGM next month and it was too late to organize it this month, I pitched the talk over to David at NZCS and he's organized that now. The first part of my interview with John is available here, where he does talk about Moodle: http://newitmake.org.nz/podcasts/audio/show/21-episode-15-dr-john-clayton The second part, where he talks about QR Codes will be played on Community Radio Hamilton this Thursday, at 2pm and the podcast will be available soon. Cheers, John

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Oct '09

18 Oct '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is labour day, no meeting scheduled.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Oct '09

18 Oct '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Social Night JohnBillings will make a presentation about FreeGeek and show a couple short videos about the project. The library will be on hand, and we will have the usual tea and biscuits and friendly chatter. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 15 Oct '09

15 Oct '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Social Night JohnBillings will make a presentation about FreeGeek and show a couple short videos about the project. The library will be on hand, and we will have the usual tea and biscuits and friendly chatter. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Sendmail help
by Narender 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Dear All we have a test mail server for QA team. we use this for internal purpose and it does not send any email to outside world. but now want to do the below things 1. We require a default forwarding of domain *(a)bugtest.abc.local mapped to email_id emailsuite(a)bugtest.abc.local - So from now on all the mails sent to any unknown address *(a)bugtest.abc.local will be sent to emailsuite(a)bugtest.abc.local 2. A script to cleanup emailsuite(a)bugtest.abc.local emails on every 5 hours interval so that we don’t run out of space. >> 3. A cleanup script for mitesting(a)bugest.abc.local to clean data of last 5 days. Many many thanks in advance --N

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Seagate USB External Hard Drive
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hello Chaps I have a non responsive Seagate USB Hard Drive that I am trying to rescue. Under windows, the error message appears that the drive does not have a valid Partition Table. I have tried to get it to be recognized under Linux: glenn(a)glenn:$ mount /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755) glenn(a)glenn:~$ cd /proc/bus/usb glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ ls 001 devices glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ cat devices T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.12-9-386 uhci_hcd S: Product=Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB S: SerialNumber=0000:00:07.2 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 11 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0bc2 ProdID=3000 Rev= 0.00 S: Manufacturer=Seagate S: Product=FreeAgentDesktop S: SerialNumber= 5RY0MBXS C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms glenn(a)glenn:/proc/bus/usb$ Any tips as to how I can mount the drive so I can reformat it with a NTFS file system? Cheers Glenn.

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yourname@linux.com?
by Peter Reutemann 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi there If you feel like having a life-time email address @linux.com and a spare 250USD (150USD for the email address, 99USD/a for the Linux Foundation membership), then have a look here: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/biz-enterprise/127569-new-benefits-off… Student memberships are cheaper, only 25USD/a. Apparently, you do get cheaper deals at Lenovo, Dell and HP with that membership and also some other discounts. Check out the website mentioned above. Disclaimer: I'm not associated with the Linux Foundation. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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IP range + port blocking
by Narender 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi I need some help in IP/Port blocking as below:- All machines with IP range 10.10.10.x should have access to Port 80 on (Machine 10.10.10.xx). and rest all should be blocked. Could someone suggest how to use hosts.deny/hosts.all for port blocking Many thanks in advance. Best Regards --N

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Social Night JohnBillings will make a presentation about FreeGeek and show a couple short videos about the project. The library will be on hand, and we will have the usual tea and biscuits and friendly chatter. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Kiwi PyCon Media Statement - "How a programming language is changing the Web"
by Tim Knapp 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

NEW ZEALAND PYTHON USER GROUP Media Statement October 5, 2009 IMMEDIATE RELEASE "How a programming language is changing the Web" The main keynote speaker at Kiwi PyCon 2009, Joel Burton, an internationally recognised trainer and presenter, will explain how the programming language Python is becoming the language of choice for developing websites due to its simplicity and flexibility. The conference will be held at the Canterbury Innovation Incubator in Christchurch on November 7th and 8th. Other tracks at the conference will include: GUI, Science & Math, Game, and Applications. The conference will also have a dedicated Web track, which will include presentations about many Python web technologies, such as: Django, Twisted, Zope 3, Grok, and Plone. The conference has attracted a lot of interest from many universities throughout the country and staff and students from Auckland, Massey, Canterbury, and Otago universities will be presenting regarding how they've used Python in their research. “As Christchurch has the reputation of being the Silicon Valley of New Zealand, its been really great to see a number of electronics companies in Christchurch support the event”, said Tim Knapp, the conference Director. Tait Electronics, a radio communications manufacturer, is a Gold sponsor for the event. “The positive response we've received from the IT community in New Zealand has been really encouraging” commented Mr. Knapp. “Really, no matter what industry your business is in, this conference will be of benefit to you.” Registration closes on October 23rd and registrations are limited. For more information visit nz.pycon.org. -------------------------------Ends------------------------------- For media or conference enquiries please contact: Tim Knapp, NZ Python User Group Vice President and Event Director Phone: 021 156 6405 Email: kiwipycon(a)nzpug.org Website: nz.pycon.org

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GUI frontend for pypdf
by Peter Reutemann 04 Oct '09

04 Oct '09

Hi there A couple of weeks ago, I needed to join two PDFs together into a single one on my Ubuntu box. Problem was, that I could only find command-line tools like pdftk to do the job, but no GUI frontend like pdftk_builder or guipdftk, which are only available for Windows. When I happened to come across the pypdf Python library (http://pybrary.net/pyPdf/) I told myself, maybe a little bit of Python-hacking could fill the void. Well, there you have it... pyPdf-GUI, a little pygtk and glade based Python frontend, released under the BSD license. And, since I thought this software might be useful to other people as well, you can find it here available for download: http://pypdfgui.fracpete.de/ On that (rather basic) website, you can download an Ubuntu 9.04 .deb package and a source archive (for other Linux flavors or older Ubuntu versions). One final note: this is the absolute first release, so expect some bugs to be lurking in the code. :-) Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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Re: [wlug] Abandonware..Noctropolis
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 04 Oct '09

04 Oct '09

Hi All For your information I managed to get the game to run in my linux dosbox (minus sound) I now claim the world record for taking 12 years to complete the game :-) Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > There are lots of different files in each directory; > I took some time to recap and I think I may have caused > the problem. I downloaded something called: > Noctropolis_English_Uncensored. The download contained: > Noctropolis_English_Uncensored.ccd 2.7kb

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wlug server status
by John Billings 03 Oct '09

03 Oct '09

To anyone using the WLUG server, Hoiho the blade hosting the home directory for user accounts, has a failing hard drive. Please don't keep any important data here, and if you do have something there now, this would be a good time to back it up. Today I was informed there is only about 600 MB of space left there. Most of the space is taken by some database backups, and I don't really see the point in removing them, when no one should be using this drive anyway. We have a replacement blade for hoiho installed which has a larger drive, but it's not plugged into the right port on the switch or something. Someone has to go to the datacenter to sort it out. Hopefully this month we will get someone up there, but we can't guarantee the drive won't fail before then. Just an FYI we are having an AGM 23rd Nov., and we will be proposing to add a sysadmin role in Rule 7 of the charter. This person would just be required to keep up with whats going on with the server, coordinate things, and make sure people are abiding the AUP. http://wlug.org.nz/WlugCharter http://wlug.org.nz/HoihoAcceptableUsePolicy Best, John

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Starting this month we're also going to have a regular FreeGeek build. We'll sort out a computer from parts and install Ubuntu on it, ready for donation to whoever Nettie decides will most benefit from being given a computer.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday October 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Starting this month we're also going to have a regular FreeGeek build. We'll sort out a computer from parts and install Ubuntu on it, ready for donation to whoever Nettie decides will most benefit from being given a computer.

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Reminder to register for Kiwi PyCon 2009
by Tim Knapp 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Dear Fellow Pythonistas, With the new month upon us and about a month to go til 'D-Day' (well KPC Day), we just wanted to post a friendly reminder to register[1] as soon as you can for Kiwi PyCon 2009. Here at Kiwi PyCon '09 HQ we've set the date that we will have the T shirts to the printer by as **Friday, October 23rd** so if you haven't registered by that time you'll miss out on your correct T shirt size! We've also already sold about half of our available conference tickets and almost 3/4 of our Pre-Conf Party tickets so get in quick to secure your place at the party/conference. Too, remember your registration (for both the party and conference) isn't confirmed until you've paid your admission fee so please ensure you pay these as soon as you can after registering. It'll also help us to pay the conference expenses :) Yours, Kiwi PyCon 2009 HQ [1] http://nz.pycon.org/submit-registration

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Sep '09

27 Sep '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This meeting cancelled. We suggest instead that you attend Richard Stallman's presentation at Wintec, 12pm Sept 30th. This event is hosted by NZCS and they ask that everyone please register in advance. http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/70-Richard_Stallman_on_Software_P…

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 26 Sep '09

26 Sep '09

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A meeting is scheduled for this date, but you haven't told us what you want it to be yet. If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 219, Issue 17
by Sam Lin 25 Sep '09

25 Sep '09

Would they be selling Emacs manual as well? On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday (Meeting Reminder Bot) > 2. Re: REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday (Roderick Aldridge) > 3. Re: REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday (Liz Quilty) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:27:10 +1200 > From: Meeting Reminder Bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> > Subject: [wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Cc: nzlug-announce(a)linux.net.nz > Message-ID: <E1Mqt26-0005pS-Mj(a)db.wlug.org.nz> > > There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > A meeting is scheduled for this date, but you haven't told us what you want it to be yet. > > If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:15:02 +1200 > From: Roderick Aldridge <rod-a(a)hnpl.net> > Subject: Re: [wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4ABBE156.90201(a)hnpl.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Meeting Reminder Bot wrote: >> There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> A meeting is scheduled for this date, but you haven't told us what you want it to be yet. >> >> If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start. >> _______________________________________________ >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > Due to the other recent events such as SFD2009 we have decided to cancel > this meeting, we do recommend that you attend the Richard Stallman talk > being organised by the NZCS, you must register for the event, here. > <http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/70-Richard_Stallman_on_Software_P…> > > Roderick Aldridge > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:12:56 +1200 > From: Liz Quilty <liz(a)velofille.com> > Subject: Re: [wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <4a011c400909241512icd95eb2ye0551218edd0afaf(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> >> >> Due to the other recent events such as SFD2009 we have decided to cancel >> this meeting, we do recommend that you attend the Richard Stallman talk >> being organised by the NZCS, you must register for the event, here. >> < >> http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/70-Richard_Stallman_on_Software_P… >> > >> >> Roderick Aldridge >> >> > Its well worth going to see too, even if its just for the funny bits :) > > Q&A was most amusing last year! > > Liz >

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Update problem solved
by john 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Thanks Peter. sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf sorted out my problem Cheers John

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Help with update manager please
by john 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Hi guys My update manager is stalled - every time I try to update I get 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.aarnet.edu.au_pub_ubuntu_archive_dists_jaunty_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.' How do I get around this? Cheers John

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slashdot: Forkable Linux Radio Ad Now On the Air In Texas
by Peter Reutemann 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

Just came across this post on slashdot (I know, Richard Stallman will cringe when hearing only "Linux" and not "GNU/Linux"): http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/09/20/209211/Forkable-Linux-Radio-Ad-Now… Maybe an idea to promote Linux here in NZ as well? Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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Software Freedom Day roundup
by Bruce Kingsbury 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

My first impression was that SFD was a disaster (entirely my fault of course!) because quite a few things went wrong and we were fairly disorganized, but others have told me I'm just being a pessimist and looking back it actually seems to have been pretty successful. We gave away 130 OpenDisc-lite CDs on eday, and at least another 100 OpenDisk-plus DVDs on SFD (I'm not sure how many we started with but over 100 and we've got very few left), about 60 Ubuntu CDs, we've got 38 feedback forms, Liz's photos look great, still waiting for others to get photos uploaded, and the video looks pretty good too (yay kino and being able to adjust the gamma). So a big thanks and well done to everyone who came along (and if you didn't, how about getting involved next year?!)

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A meeting is scheduled for this date, but you haven't told us what you want it to be yet. If you're seeing this message, feel free to suggest or offer to present a meeting topic - the MeetingTopics page might be a good place to start.

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Committee meeting, location yet to be decided. Agenda: followup to SFD, things we got right and need to do again, things we got wrong and need to improve on. Graham has made some excellent suggestions for how we can do the event next year which we should discuss. Desperate need to get more students involved in WLUG. The "annual" WlugSurvey needs to be done again.

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