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Dick Smith Acer Aspire 5315 NoteBook
by Ron Dean 15 Aug '08

15 Aug '08

Has anybody had experience in setting this up with Ubuntu 8.04 The full Model Number is AS5315-201G08Mi I am thinking of buying one . I found on the web information about Aspire 5315 that it could be got to work but when I searched with the whole model number couldn't find any information. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman Interview on TV]
by Ian McDonald 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman Interview on TV From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Sat, August 9, 2008 1:50 pm To: cs-staff(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AltTV (channel 65 on Sky) Wednesday, on the programme Greencore. The show is 8pm - 8.30 but not sure when the interview will show precisely. Its about 10 mins. Steve -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Aritcle on why OLPC has failed (so far)
by Ian McDonald 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

Very interesting read here: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4472654.ece -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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[Fwd: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom?]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Here is the answer to the question regarding distribution of the RMS interview file, from the Radio NZ Webmaster. /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Webmaster <Webmaster(a)radionz.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom? Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:41:01 +1200 Hello Roger, It is covered by our standard terms of use, which essentially allows for personal use only. You can link to the audio though, provided credit of the source is given (the link is not going to expire). regards, Richard Hulse Webmaster >>> rsinel(a)bredband.net 08/09/08 8:55 PM >>> Hello, Is the interview file from the Richard Stallman freely distributable? http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20080809-0845-Richard_Stallman_Freedom… -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am]]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Bruce, I forwarded your question to Simon Bridge. See his answers below. I see that all the audio files from the saturday program http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday are in Ogg Vorbis format... but does that mean that all the files are freely distributable or just the RMS interview? /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: simon <simonbridge(a)ihug.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am] Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:26:54 +1200 Roger Sinel wrote: > Hi Simon, a few of us from WLUG are wondering if Radio NZ meant that the > interview Ogg Vorbis files will be freely distributable? > > I just thought you might be in the know about this. > > Simon Bridge wrote: that's our understanding. > /Roger Sinel > > > Mvh > Roger Sinel > roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com > www.nordickiwi.com > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Reply-To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at > 8.12am > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:27:10 +1200 > > >> Hi there, >> >> FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow >> morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. >> >> Saturday Morning >> with Kim Hill >> Saturday, 8am - Midday >> > > Just finished listening to this (via a propriatory MS streaming format ;) > > Not a bad interview, and at the end they mentioned it will also be > available as an Ogg Vorbis file. They didn't mention if it would be > freely re distributable though, which I think would be just as > important as the format it's released in. > Simon Bridge wrote: Yes - rms was clear about this. The website should be specifying a cc licence > _______________________________________________ > > + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc > + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7 > > -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am
by Peter Reutemann 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marieke Boleyn <mboleyn(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:36 PM Subject: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am Hi there, FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. Saturday Morning with Kim Hill Saturday, 8am - Midday Guest details for Saturday Morning 9 August 2008 8:12 Richard Stallman Richard Stallman is a software freedom activist and developer. In 1983 he announced the project to develop the GNU operating system, a Unix-like operating system meant to be entirely free software, and has been the project's leader ever since. He is visiting New Zealand for a range of engagements and events from 6 to 12 August to help promote the use, dissemination and ideals of free software.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5
by Jaco van der Merwe 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

I have some mates in SA, some with a bit of Linux experience, but more the C's, who are looking to come here. If you don't find somebody, pm me - Jaco > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C) > 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (Peter Reutemann) > 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (James Pluck) > 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200 > From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi there > > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? > > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… > > Thanks for your time :) > > Marcela > _________________________________________________________________ > Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7… >

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Re: [wlug] Job description
by Marcela Sierra C 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Hi Sorry, Shannon, I can't discuss the job here for business reasons but I am happy to discuss who the role is with if you call me on 09 302 7023 or 0212733300; if you send through your CV (whether you ultimately decide to ask us to put you forward or not), I can send you the job description and discuss the pay rate with you. Unfortunately, we have been experiencing technical difficulties with our email at the moment, which is why I have subscribed to the mailing list through my hotmail address, but you can either apply directly through www.seek.co.nz or send your CV to me at marcela(a)absoluteit.co.nz or ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com. Thanks for your interest; I appreciate you taking the time to consider the role. Kind regards, Marcela> From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200> > Send wlug mailing list submissions to> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > You can reach the person managing the list at> wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C)> 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (Peter Reutemann)> 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (James Pluck)> 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200> From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com>> Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hi there> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> > Thanks for your time :)> > Marcela> _________________________________________________________________> Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/8b06e689/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:59:16 +1200> From: "Peter Reutemann" <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz>> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <548e07050808062059p5bbef080lde597b8b9cc47164(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Hi there> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> > Cheers, Peter> > ---------------------------------------------------> SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> ----------------------------------------------------> Title: Copyright vs Community> Speaker: Richard Stallman> > Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> > Abstract:> Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> direction.> > Biography:> Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> > -- > Marieke Boleyn> Academic Support Officer> Department of Computer Science> The University of Waikato> Phone: 07 838 4911> Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:32:06 +1200> From: "James Pluck" <papabearnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <69dff2130808062132t30acecf0y3173995ef3e8fbb5(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I've printed several of these out to pin up round the noticeboards at the> Hospital.> > J> > > On 8/7/08, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:> >> > Hi there> >> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> >> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> > taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> > http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> >> > Cheers, Peter> >> > ---------------------------------------------------> > SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> > ----------------------------------------------------> > Title: Copyright vs Community> > Speaker: Richard Stallman> >> > Seminar Flyer:> > http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> >> > Abstract:> > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> >> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> > suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> > serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> > for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> > direction.> >> > Biography:> > Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> > founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> > and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> > several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> >> > --> > Marieke Boleyn> > Academic Support Officer> > Department of Computer Science> > The University of Waikato> > Phone: 07 838 4911> > Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> > > > -- > James Pluck> PalmOS Ergo Sum> "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription.> Please remove my name from your mailing list..."> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/60308c84/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:23:51 +1200> From: "Shannon Skinner" <shannonsnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <d0b0f8450808070323h42122625hba6dbf3bfa9e5d51(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > This is just a stab in the dark here, but is that job for Fonterra?> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Hi there> >> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript> > experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally> > negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd> > love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates> > in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> >> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate.> > Please take a look at my ad for more info:> >> > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> >> > Thanks for your time :)> >> > Marcela> >> > ________________________________> > MSN NZ Travel Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next> > holiday online with> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> wlug mailing list> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> ************************************ _________________________________________________________________ Buy, rent, invest property online today. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eallrealestate%2Eco%2E…

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$250 Reward offered
by Marcela Sierra C 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… Thanks for your time :) Marcela _________________________________________________________________ Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…

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Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community
by Peter Reutemann 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university. Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is taking place in room 01 on the ground floor): http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/ Cheers, Peter --------------------------------------------------- SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01 ---------------------------------------------------- Title: Copyright vs Community Speaker: Richard Stallman Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf Abstract: Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress, for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other direction. Biography: Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received several awards and honorary doctorates for his work. -- Marieke Boleyn Academic Support Officer Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Phone: 07 838 4911 Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz

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OpenOffice 2.4 review
by Ian McDonald 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/applications/soa/OpenOffice-org-2-… After last time commenting on OO I will refrain from it this time... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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RMS in the press.
by Bruce Kingsbury 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0064FE274A08BA2CCC25749A00383CB3 Richard Stallman will be speaking at Waikato University, 6pm Aug 20th. No idea where yet, but I've been told Marieke is onto it so hopefully I'll know soon. Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright -- to promote progress, for the benefit of the public -- then we must make changes in the other direction.

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NZCS Innovators Series Lunch: Rod Drury (Hamilton) - 11 August 2008
by David Hallett 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

The NZ Computer Society (NZCS) is proud to announce a new monthly series of events from August to December 2008 in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Dunedin and Hamilton, bringing some of the true "Innovators of ICT" to a city near you. Register at http://nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/event.asp?SECT=waikato_bop&ID=3131 First up on the 11th of August is the Society's newest Honorary Fellow (HFNZCS) and well known ICT entrepreneur Rod Drury, his presentation entitled: "Succeeding in NZ - What is Innovation, anyway?" Rod really needs no introduction. He exploded onto the ICT scene in New Zealand in 1995 when he founded Glazier Systems, which was subsequently bought by Advantage Group to become well-known ICT solutions company Intergen. He then created AfterMail, an Exchange product later sold to American company Quest Software for an 8-figure sum and judged the "Best Exchange Product" at TechEd 2006 in Boston. Not yet done, he then created well-known NZX-listed Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) accounting company Xero which is changing the way small businesses do accounting in New Zealand Free for NZCS members and inexpensive for non-members. Light Lunch Included Date: 11 August 2008 Time: 12:00 PM - 1:30 PM Venue: The Hub at Wintec, City Campus, Gate 5, Tristram Street, Hamilton REGISTRATION IS ESSENTIAL: http://nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/event.asp?SECT=waikato_bop&ID=3131 This event will sell out in most areas, hence registration is essential. Best Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256 Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz

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Theme deletion...
by Chakat Sandwalker 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Is it possible to delete appearance theme customisations (i.e. icons, controls, window border, etc.) that the user has installed manually (say, from www.gnome-look.org) but the Appearance applet refuses to delete? I've installed a number of themes/customisations that I can't delete because the 'Delete' button is greyed out. As a result I have a glut of entries to choose from, most of which I don't want any more. Sandy

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday August 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Converting a hard drive from ext3 to fat32
by Ron Dean 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Is it possible to convert the above. I have already backed it up to another drive. After I format it in Partition Magic What commands do I issue to re mount it . -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday August 2nd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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KDE 4.1 released
by Ian McDonald 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Starting to look better. Have a look at: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up?
by Bruce Kingsbury 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Anybody want to organise a carpool to Auckland? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Apperley <m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: 2008/7/21 Subject: Re: Stallman stalling - do we give up? To: Steve Reeves <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>, Bruce Kingsbury < zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz>, Tony McGregor <tonym(a)waikato.ac.nz> I've notified Simon Bridge that we are unable to host a Stallman talk on the Saturday, as we would not be able to raise a credible audience. Disappointed fans will have to go to the Auckland talk. Mark ======================================================== Professor Mark Apperley m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Department of Computer Science University of Waikato phone: +64 7 838 4528 NEW ZEALAND fax: +64 7 838 4155 ======================================================== -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Jul '08

27 Jul '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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Re: [wlug] Geek meets closer to home
by David Bowen 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi Jaco Check out the Aucklug http://auckland.linux.net.nz/ and the mailing list http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aucklug I am on their mailing list but haven't managed to catch them in the flesh yet. Cheers David

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NZ mirrors
by Jaco van der Merwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Hi folks, Couple of questions: 1. I'm on the WorldExchange/XNet network. Traffic local to the XN nw does not count towards my (75G) cap. Are there any Uni's or FTP mirors available for Ubuntu/Deb & other distro's on the XN new? 2. I live & work in Auckland City & travelling out to Waikato on a scooter is problematic, to say the least. Are there any other geek-meets closer to home? Thanks - Jaco _________________________________________________________________ Tired of having no room left in your inbox? Windows Live Hotmail now gives you 5GB of FREE storage! Get your free Windows Live Hotmail account here! http://get.live.com/mail/overview

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 205, Issue 17
by Jaco van der Merwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Thanks for the info, Lindsay, but I already use citylink as a tries & tested source. The problem is that xnet traffic does not count towards my cap, so any resources on the 'local network' is 'free' I've already put in a request to the sysadmin for ftp.wicks.co.nz, but he's indicated that he simply doesn't have the space. Uni's seem my best bet Thanks anyhow -J > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 205, Issue 17 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:00:06 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NZ mirrors (Jaco van der Merwe) > 2. Re: NZ mirrors (Lindsay Druett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:11:14 +0200 > From: Jaco van der Merwe <freakalad(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] NZ mirrors > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY116-W48D9A47146095A55CCD7B1BC850(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi folks, > > Couple of questions: > 1. I'm on the WorldExchange/XNet network. Traffic local to the XN nw does not count towards my (75G) cap. > Are there any Uni's or FTP mirors available for Ubuntu/Deb & other distro's on the XN new? > 2. I live & work in Auckland City & travelling out to Waikato on a scooter is problematic, to say the least. > Are there any other geek-meets closer to home? > > Thanks > > - Jaco > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of having no room left in your inbox? Windows Live Hotmail now gives you 5GB of FREE storage! Get your free Windows Live Hotmail account here! > http://get.live.com/mail/overview >

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up?
by rsinel＠bredband.net 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Sad to here that Richard Stallmans offer to speak in Hamilton was not taken up. I've must have missjudged amount of "Free Software" user's in my old hometown when i talked to Richard about the possabilaty of doing a talk in Hamilton. /Roger Sinel ---- Original message ---- From: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> Sent: 20 Jul 2008 14:58 -07:00 To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: Stallman stalling - do we give up? Anybody want to organise a carpool to Auckland? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Apperley <m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: 2008/7/21 Subject: Re: Stallman stalling - do we give up? To: Steve Reeves <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>, Bruce Kingsbury < zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz>, Tony McGregor <tonym(a)waikato.ac.nz> I've notified Simon Bridge that we are unable to host a Stallman talk on the Saturday, as we would not be able to raise a credible audience. Disappointed fans will have to go to the Auckland talk. Mark ======================================================== Professor Mark Apperley m.apperley(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Department of Computer Science University of Waikato phone: +64 7 838 4528 NEW ZEALAND fax: +64 7 838 4155 ======================================================== -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them. ----  Sent using a Sony Ericsson mobile phone

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Opensource, GNU/Linux, and why those things are important for FX Networks." Opensource thinking and technology permeates the Network Operations Centre at FxNetworks. FX rely on a number of Opensource packages to run both the network and the business. The open and adaptable model also extends to how they engage with other network operators and service providers. Jamie Baddeley will speak how things come together at FX, and why GNU/Linux is important to them

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RMS visit. Who would turn up?
by Bruce Kingsbury 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

Just wondering. If CompSci were to host a talk by Richard Stallman (proposed Sat 9th August, early evening) who would definitely turn up for it? WLUG cannot organise this. RMS refuses to have anything to do with LUGS. CompSci are considering it, but don't think that 100 or more people will turn up. I have no idea how much (or how little) interest there actually is in this presentation. Show of hands? -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Useful blogs/websites
by Daniel Lawson 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hey guys Thought I'd point out a couple of useful websites that have been collecting in my rss reader http://www.debian-administration.org/ often has some useful posts on it. Yes, it's Debian focussed, which also means it mostly applies to Ubuntu as well, but a lot of the stuff that comes up applies to all distros just as readily. For example, the author is currently trying to run a daily series of "Commands you might have missed", covering off simple utilities like pstree and watch that a lot of people don't know about. http://debaday.debian.net/ tries to cover off a Debian Package of the Day, however the author struggle for content to keep it going at that rate. Still comes up with some useful entries at least twice a week. http://www.debuntu.org/ is a Debian and Ubuntu tips and tricks page. The OpenSource Toolbox at http://ostoolbox.blogspot.com/ covers a wider range of projects and platforms than the above http://www.linuxdevices.com/ is a site dedicated to embedded devices and platforms that interoperate or run linux (and other free or open platforms I think) If you're interested in following kernel developments, then www.kerneltrap.org and www.kernelplanet.org might be interesting to you. The former is a meta-discussion of what's going on in the linux kernel mailing list, and the latter is an aggregation of various kernel developers blogs, so quite often has a lot of other random stuff in it. And of course, there's the WLUG wiki at http://www.wlug.org.nz and Planet WLUG at http://planet.wlug.org.nz/, if you didn't know about them already :) Daniel

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Laptop Query
by James Pluck 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi all! Does anyone know if the below laptop will work ok under Linux (I'm thinking Ubuntu Hardy) I am looking for a lappy to use as a general portable workhorse for checking mail and a LAMP/AJAX/Ruby etc coding platform. I'm keeping the desktop as a games machine but want something I can take with me to the library, etc for quiet time coding or whatever. J -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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Big Buck Bunny builds a better Blender
by Bruce Kingsbury 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Thought this might be of interest to the list, particularly after covering the Blender software and BBB movie at John's presentation. *Big Buck Bunny* is the colorful product of the Peach<http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/>open movie project: an animated short released online and on DVD. But in addition to the 'toon itself, Peach has produced an altogether different yield: improvements to the Blender <http://www.blender.org/> 3-D modeling application. Like its predecessor Project Orange<http://orange.blender.org/>, Peach pushed the open source tool forward with the demands of a real-world media production, in a way that hobbyist usage cannot. http://www.linux.com/feature/139454 -- This email is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient you must burn your computer, while standing on one foot and chanting the entire jabberwocky. The opinions expressed here are not necessarily the opinions of the person who expressed them.

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Open-source laptop tracking system for laptops
by Michael McDonald 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Interested to see this open source solution being promoted ... New service tracks missing laptops for free Researchers have developed a free open-source laptop tracking system for laptops By Robert McMillan San Francisco | Tuesday, 15 July, 2008 Lose your laptop these days and you lose part of your life: You say good-bye to photos, music and personal documents that cannot be replaced, and if it's a work computer, you may be the source of a very public data breach. http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/EC980DF9A9B079E6CC257486006F02AC Michael

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waikato imap
by Justin Hyde 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

I had similar problems and only got it to work after changing the password. AFAIK this is only possible from off-campus, blocked ports on-campus and can't go through proxy server. Cheers > hey, it works ;) the problem was the synchronisation of password. I > changed it, went to the UnlockChapta Link. And that's it! > Big Thanx to everyone for your support. > > Colin Palmer wrote: > >* On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:53 +1200, Ivo Senner wrote: > *>* > *>>* So this is my first question: I've tried to setup an imap account for > *>>* my university address at thunderbird. But everytime I trying to > *>>* connect to imap.gmail.com i get the message "Invalid credentials > *>>* (Failure)". While searching in google for a solution I can only find > *>>* the notice to activate IMAP at webmail. That was the first thing i've > *>>* done. Does anyone know something about this behaviour? or how to setup > *>>* the imap-account correctly? > *>>* > *>* > *>* The ITS service desk are the best people to ask about this, since some > *>* of the details are UoW specific. However most of what you need to know > *>* is here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662 > *>* > *>* Things to note: > *>* > *>* - SSL/port 993 is compulsory, standard IMAP won't work. > *>* - Your IMAP username is <user>@students.waikato.ac.nz > *>* - Your password should be the same as your UoW one, but may not be > *>* sychronised, especially if you've never used > *>* https://tools.its.waikato.ac.nz/cgi-bin/changepw so go there and set a > *>* new password. > *>* - It's easy to lock yourself out by entering the wrong password too many > *>* times, so you may need to visit > *>* https://www.google.com/a/students.waikato.ac.nz/UnlockCaptcha before > *>* trying again. This will confirm the new password you just set works. > *>* > *>* > * > >

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waikato imap
by Ivo Senner 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

hey guys, I'm new at the UoW and also at this mailinglist ;) If someone is interested in this: I'm from Germany, 22 years old, using archlinux and (at my workstation at home) gentoo. So this is my first question: I've tried to setup an imap account for my university address at thunderbird. But everytime I trying to connect to imap.gmail.com i get the message "Invalid credentials (Failure)". While searching in google for a solution I can only find the notice to activate IMAP at webmail. That was the first thing i've done. Does anyone know something about this behaviour? or how to setup the imap-account correctly? Thanx and greatz, Ivo

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SA govt to rig buses for free internet
by Michael McDonald 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

Interesting plans for buses in South Australia ... SA govt to rig buses for free internet The South Australian Government is planning to offer free internet on the state's public transport system to make it more appealing to use — but it needs to find a hardware vendor and ISP willing to install the technology first. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/SA-govt-to-rig-buses-for-free-int… Michael

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Fwd: FW: Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington]
by Chris O'Halloran 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

-----Original Message----- From: Roger Sinel [mailto:roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com] Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 6:54 a.m. To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] Richard Stallman has already offered to come to Waikato University during his August visit to NZ and do a talk, I talked to him in the 26th of febuary this year in Stockholm Sweden about it. http://nordickiwi.no-ip.com/blog/?p=109 I'd like to know if the arrangements where ever finalized? I posted this offer from Richard on this list. Does anyone know if Richard Stallman will actually talk in Hamilton? /Roger -----Original Message----- From: Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Reply-To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:23:27 +1200 Please see below - hopefully someone will pick this up from the committee. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ian McDonald <iam4(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:21 AM Subject: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman visiting Wellington From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Wed, July 9, 2008 12:29 pm To: cs-lecturers(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if he's got time to come up here again? Would someone in WLUG be able to get something arranged? Steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Green Party <greenparty(a)greens.org.nz> > Date: 9 July 2008 12:10:46 GMT+12:00 > To: "dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz" <dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz>, IT Commitee <IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > >, nandor(a)greens.org.nz > Subject: [IT] [Fwd: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington] > Reply-To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz, Information Technology <it(a)lists.greens.org.nz > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:09:24 +1200 > From: Peter Lambrechtsen <plambrechtsen(a)gmail.com> > To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > CC: don(a)catalyst.net.nz > > Hello > > As per our conversation, Richard Stallman who is the founder of GNU > (www.gnu.org) and the GPL License, and is the authority on Free > Software and is a passionate speaker on such topics. He will be in > Wellington from the 13th until the 17th of August. > > A brief bio of Richard Stallman: > > Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system > (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the > freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes > either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU > operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of > computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a > MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's > Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic > Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates. > > > I know Nandor Tanczos had an interest about Linux and Free Software > and was interested in contacting him directly. > > I will be organising his itinerary and main point of contact during > his visit to Wellington and was interested in if the Greens were > interested in a meeting / presentation or some media event with him. > > Please either e-mail me back, or call me on 04 470 5540 or 0272 905 > 735 and we can talk further. > > Kind regards. > > Peter Lambrechtsen > > -- > Michael Pringle > National Administrator > Green Party > PO Box 11 652 > Wellington > Phone 04 801 5102 > Fax 04 801 5104 > Mobile 021 119 6714 > greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > www.greens.org.nz > > _______________________________________________ > IT mailing list > IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > http://tui.greens.org.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/it ******************************************************** Professor Steve Reeves Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Hamilton 3240 New Zealand Tel: +64 7 838 4398 Fax: +64 7 858 5095 Email: stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Web: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~stever -- ?Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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Fwd: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington]
by Ian McDonald 09 Jul '08

09 Jul '08

Please see below - hopefully someone will pick this up from the committee. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ian McDonald <iam4(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:21 AM Subject: [Fwd: Stallman visiting Wellington] To: ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stallman visiting Wellington From: "Steve Reeves" <stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Wed, July 9, 2008 12:29 pm To: cs-lecturers(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz cs-grads(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if he's got time to come up here again? Would someone in WLUG be able to get something arranged? Steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Green Party <greenparty(a)greens.org.nz> > Date: 9 July 2008 12:10:46 GMT+12:00 > To: "dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz" <dd(a)lists.greens.org.nz>, IT Commitee <IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > >, nandor(a)greens.org.nz > Subject: [IT] [Fwd: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington] > Reply-To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz, Information Technology <it(a)lists.greens.org.nz > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Richard Stallman visiting Wellington > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:09:24 +1200 > From: Peter Lambrechtsen <plambrechtsen(a)gmail.com> > To: greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > CC: don(a)catalyst.net.nz > > Hello > > As per our conversation, Richard Stallman who is the founder of GNU > (www.gnu.org) and the GPL License, and is the authority on Free > Software and is a passionate speaker on such topics. He will be in > Wellington from the 13th until the 17th of August. > > A brief bio of Richard Stallman: > > Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system > (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the > freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes > either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU > operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of > computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a > MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's > Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic > Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates. > > > I know Nandor Tanczos had an interest about Linux and Free Software > and was interested in contacting him directly. > > I will be organising his itinerary and main point of contact during > his visit to Wellington and was interested in if the Greens were > interested in a meeting / presentation or some media event with him. > > Please either e-mail me back, or call me on 04 470 5540 or 0272 905 > 735 and we can talk further. > > Kind regards. > > Peter Lambrechtsen > > -- > Michael Pringle > National Administrator > Green Party > PO Box 11 652 > Wellington > Phone 04 801 5102 > Fax 04 801 5104 > Mobile 021 119 6714 > greenparty(a)greens.org.nz > www.greens.org.nz > > _______________________________________________ > IT mailing list > IT(a)lists.greens.org.nz > http://tui.greens.org.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/it ******************************************************** Professor Steve Reeves Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Hamilton 3240 New Zealand Tel: +64 7 838 4398 Fax: +64 7 858 5095 Email: stever(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Web: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~stever -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Jul '08

04 Jul '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday July 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Ubuntu 8.10 features
by Ian McDonald 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

Good article here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080629-horny-for-ubuntu-8-10-first-l… I also like the links to NetworkManager blogs - looks like it will finally be useful, rather than annoying. I like the idea of sharing your 3G card easily.... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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hugin panoramas
by John Billings 28 Jun '08

28 Jun '08

I posted my slides and the panorama image I created from the pictures I took at the meeting last week: http://wlug.org.nz/JohnBillings The Hugin interface is pretty easy to use. I added the two pictures and it assembled them and ouput a .tif image. I opened that up in GIMP and cropped it a bit, there were some gray areas that hugin left around the sides. Then used GIMP to convert it to a .jpg image. If you want to see the full size image it's at: http://nimhq.net/wlug-hugin-example.jpg You can see the seam where the two images were joined by the exit sign, but I thought it did a pretty good job. Think it is really best for scenery shots of course, so I dug through some old photos, and found a couple shots out at Maunganui I could join: http://nimhq.net/maunganui-1.jpg http://nimhq.net/maunganui-2.jpg Resulting in: http://nimhq.net/maunganui-hugin.jpg Thought I'd share my experiment. Best, John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Jun '08

22 Jun '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) "Gnu/Linux Graphics Software Roundup" John Billings will talk about some of the graphics software available in Linux, including (but not limited to) the GIMP, Inkscape, and Blender.

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In the news today
by Ian McDonald 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Someone from Microsoft says that ODF has won: http://www.osnews.com/story/19892 and that Java is now available 100% free (with help of RedHat/IcedTea): http://www.osnews.com/story/19892 -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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WINE is 1 yo - Happy Birthday Wine!
by James Pluck 18 Jun '08

18 Jun '08

(I'm probably out of date with this...) http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147212/wine_pops_its_cork_aft… -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."

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fedora 9 and -lglib
by stephen pearce 16 Jun '08

16 Jun '08

Hi I'm trying to compile the source version of Lazarus .. which is a gui ide for the free pascal compiler (object pascal which is almost identical to delphi) ... on a fedora 9 installation. FPC compiles ok .. you have to get the binary initially to bootstrap compile the source distro of the fpc compiler) ... lazarus compiles ok but aborts on linking with a message saying it cannot link to -lglib. I got the source for glib and compiled and installed this .. but lazarus gave the same error. I was originally running the amd 64 bit version of fedora .. x86-64 .. but reinstalled the i386 version .. with no change (rather frustrated by now) ...I then tried seaching the makefiles and other installation stuff looking for libglib references .. without any luck to date ... though libglib v 2 is in /usr/lib I am vaguely aware that the fedora library comformation is a bit differenct to debian but don't know the details nor of a simple way to spoff software looking in the debian places to cope with the fedora conformation .. has anyone any experience along these lines or other thoughts on this Thanks -- Stephen Pearce Whangarei

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Topic to be announced.

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Mail client difficulty
by Graham Lauder 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

This one is driving me a bit batty at the moment. I've been using KMail up till now but the addressbook has a flaky UI which is frustrating and nonintuitive to say the least and there are one or two other issues that have caused me problems with lost mails and such. Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed? -- Graham Lauder, ******************************************** The Best things come in 3 http://why.openoffice.org ******************************************** OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org

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help testing the Māori language spell checker for thunderbird and firefox
by Stuart A. Yeates 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Hello everyone It's not linux, but Kiharoa, who puts together the Māori language spell checker for thunderbird and firefox, needs some urgent testing and feedback so it makes the grade for getting into the next release. The URL is: http://kiharoa.dear.maori.nz/2008/06/still-looking-for-volunteers/ cheers stuart

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 08 Jun '08

08 Jun '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters # Server status # General business

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Acer pushing Linux on laptops
by Ian McDonald 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9960210-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=254… I know that for quite some time you have been able to buy Linux only notebooks from them easily. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 7, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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app for drawing database data models
by Brenda Wallace 06 Jun '08

06 Jun '08

any recommendations for an app? I've been using dia - anything better out there?

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Google Gadgets open sourced for Linux
by Ian McDonald 05 Jun '08

05 Jun '08

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080605-google-gadgets-open-sourced-f… -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Jun '08

05 Jun '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 7, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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RimuHosting Hiring Linux Gurus
by Peter Bryant 05 Jun '08

05 Jun '08

Hi all. It's been about 6 months since I last posted here looking for more staff. But we keep growing, and we keep needing more staff. So here goes again... I'm looking for one or two more full time people to do Linux support and sysadmin work for RimuHosting: setup people's Linux servers, install Linux apps, troubleshoot problems, help manage the few thousand Linux servers we run, and the like. It can be very interesting, challenging work. You get to play with _lots_ of servers, distros and get exposure to just about every app that runs on Linux. I'd also consider uni students on a part time (evenings, weekends?) basis. For those that don't know, RimuHosting is based in Cambridge, down the road from Hamilton, and we provide Linux VPS and dedicated server hosting and support to customers dotted all around the world. More info (and application procedures) is over at: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Jobs/IT-Jobs/Networking-systems/auction-1… If you had any questions just reply off list to me. Cheers, Peter http://rimuhosting.com PS: The link on http://www.wlug.org.nz/WlugMailingList to http://www.wlug.org.nz/archive/mailing-list-aup.txt gives a 403 Forbidden...

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Features for Ubuntu 8.10 / dev model
by Ian McDonald 05 Jun '08

05 Jun '08

Interesting article here: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18482/1141/ (originally found on http://lwn.net) -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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midnight commander q
by stephen pearce 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

Hi Does anyone know how toconfigure midnight commander so that on closing it down you stay in the directory you have navigated to .. rather than ending up back in the directory you were in when you started it? On one of my installations this works ... on a newer one it does not .. and I cannot see the difference .. nor can I see how to do it from the mc documentation Tnx -- Stephen Pearce Critical Care Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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Flash in firefox v2 and v3
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

Hi All, Does anyone know why some flash movies in Firefox do not work but seem ok in Epiphany and Sea monkey Clear.net.nz news/videos are an example. In Firefox they start to load then fail after 3 seconds Some U tube movies do a similar thing. Regards John..

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ATM running Windows
by Chris O'Halloran 29 May '08

29 May '08

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taniwha/2530125783/

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KDE 4.1 Beta
by Ian McDonald 28 May '08

28 May '08

Some nice screen shots and info here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-beta1.php -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Fedora project and FreeIPA
by Ian McDonald 26 May '08

26 May '08

Just reading an interview with Fedora project leader. Quite interesting. Also saw mention of FreeIPA project that Fedora/RedHat have started that is tying together Kerebos/Samba etc to compete with Active Directory. Quite interesting. Also mentions speed up of X http://news.softpedia.com/news/Exclusive-Fedora-Interview-86401.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeIPA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OneSecondX -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 25 May '08

25 May '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- May 26th, 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Graham Lauder will be speaking about the INGOTS (http://theingots.org.nz/index.html) (and OpenOffice.org (http://openoffice.org.nz/) if we have time)

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Microsoft plans to natively support ODF
by Ian McDonald 24 May '08

24 May '08

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080521-office-2007-to-gain-native-od… As I keep saying I think Microsoft is heading down a more open path. Sure they're not there yet but this is a good move. It wasn't that long ago that Sun was a closed source company (think Solaris, Java). -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 May '08

22 May '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- May 26th, 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Graham Lauder will be speaking about the INGOTS (http://theingots.org.nz/index.html) (and OpenOffice.org (http://openoffice.org.nz/) if we have time)

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 May '08

18 May '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- May 26th, 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Graham Lauder will be speaking about the INGOTS (http://theingots.org.nz/index.html) (and OpenOffice.org (http://openoffice.org.nz/) if we have time)

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Essay on OLPC
by Ian McDonald 16 May '08

16 May '08

Interesting (long) read: http://radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi Found at lwn.net -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Re: [wlug] Top 5 tiny distros
by Michael McDonald 15 May '08

15 May '08

2008/5/15 Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz>: > Haven't read yet myself... > > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/26480 Looks like there's a few interesting distros to try there ... always useful when a friend a needs a computer in a hurry and you've only got old and ancient computers around that are spare. Seems impressed with Puppy ... and I was when I tried it and had no problems connecting to the Internet with an internal fax/modem. (note ... copy to WLUG) Michael

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 11 May '08

11 May '08

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Previous Minutes # Treasurers report # Correspondence # Matters -Sign up for SFD, what quantity of supplies do we require? -Contact Canonical and get 8.04 CD order underway. (Bruce has put in an order for 100 freebies from shipit, not sure how many we'll get) - Bryce Utting nominated as 'temporary committee member' to replace Simon, as allowed for in the constitution.. no SGM required (it's a lot of hassle for a minor committee position and also Bruce forgot to announce one..) Approved by email vote, but should probably be recorded in some minutes somewhere. - Fund raising.. bank balance is distressingly low. Bruce intends to remind members to pay fees at next meeting. Is there anything else we could do to raise funds? Trust applications? # Server status # General business

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Good Ubuntu 8.04 review
by Ian McDonald 09 May '08

09 May '08

I didn't post all the other reviews but I think Ars did a great job here: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/hardy-heron-review.ars/1 They took about the good things, the bad things and how to fix some of the bad things... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Open Office 3 beta out now
by Ian McDonald 08 May '08

08 May '08

http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-9938521-12.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=… -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Re: [wlug] Upgrading Kubuntu Feisty Fawn to Hardy Heron
by GJB 07 May '08

07 May '08

If you upgrade turn off the lock screen on Xscreensaver (if you use it). If the screen locks during the upgrade the system will not let you back in even with your own password, it does something screwy with PAM modules and locks everybody out whilst waiting for reply to numerous .config replace confirmation prompts. You'll probably have to re-install anyway. Wasn't there just a discussion that it screws around with sudo also ... probably same thing as with PAM module frigging around? > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Upgrading Kubuntu Feisty Fawn to Hardy Heron > From: "David Hallett" <david(a)pulsar.net.nz> > Date: Wed, May 07, 2008 11:05 pm > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Glyn Webster <glyn(a)wave.co.nz> wrote: > > > I'm thinking of upgrading the Kubuntu on my PC from Feisty Fawn to Hardy > > Heron, is there anything special I have to consider? > > > You need to read this: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion > > -- > David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS, MNZSA > Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd > P.O. Box 15-516 > Hamilton, New Zealand > > Mob: +64-21-802 256 > Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Upgrading Kubuntu Feisty Fawn to Hardy Heron
by Glyn Webster 07 May '08

07 May '08

I'm thinking of upgrading the Kubuntu on my PC from Feisty Fawn to Hardy Heron, is there anything special I have to consider? -- Glyn Webster.

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Undersized DVD-ROMs?
by Glyn Webster 07 May '08

07 May '08

I've bought 10 Dick Smith DVD-R's, and they only have 1,852,960 blocks available on them, not the full 2,298,496 (3.5GiB of data, not 4.4GiB). At least that's what K3B and GnomeBaker both claim. It might be my DVD burner at fault, I haven't tried other disks yet. I can't find any explanation of what's going on here, does anyone know? This is K3B's debugging output: System ----------------------- K3b Version: 1.0 KDE Version: 3.5.6 QT Version: 3.3.7 Kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic Devices ----------------------- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4160B A300 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite] Burned media ----------------------- DVD-R Sequential K3bIsoImager ----------------------- mkisofs print size result: 2267770 (4644392960 bytes) Pipe throughput: 20480 bytes read, 0 bytes written. Used versions ----------------------- mkisofs: 1.1.2 growisofs: 7.0.1 growisofs ----------------------- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0' :-( /dev/hdd: 1852960 blocks are free, 2267770 to be written! growisofs command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2267770 -dvd-compat -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m mkisofs ----------------------- 2267770 I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale settings) Using HOOTING_YARD_ON_THE_AIR_000.MP3;1 for HootingYard/Hooting_Yard_On_the_Air_-_November_8th_2007_fixed.mp3 (Hooting_Yard_On_the_Air_-_November_8th_2007.mp3) [snip] Using HOOTING_YARD___OCTOBER_6000.MP3;1 for HootingYard/Hooting_Yard_-_October_6th_2007.mp3 (Hooting_Yard_-_October_6th_04.mp3) mkisofs calculate size command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid HootingYard -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bfCW2Fb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bzHHBec.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3brwA0uc.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bveJ6fa.tmp mkisofs command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -volid HootingYard -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bzbwN7a.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3b0quX9a.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bNHqsoa.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-glyn/k3bhKcH7b.tmp

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Computer Manufactures push for open source compatiable hardware
by Ian McDonald 03 May '08

03 May '08

http://www.linux.com/feature/134125 -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Microsoft working on opensource management tools
by Ian McDonald 03 May '08

03 May '08

http://lwn.net/Articles/280495/rss -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Meeting Video
by Shannon Skinner 03 May '08

03 May '08

Now that the meetings are started to be video'ed, where will they end up? Will there be an announcement to the list when they're ready?

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workshop
by Bruce Kingsbury 02 May '08

02 May '08

Hello, where is everybody?

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 May '08

02 May '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. This is BruceKingsbury's birthday, so there could also be birthday cake.

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 01 May '08

01 May '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 3rd, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm We will be holding our SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. This is BruceKingsbury's birthday, so there could also be birthday cake.

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sudo broken after upgrade from gutsy to hairy^Whardy
by Glenn Ramsey 01 May '08

01 May '08

I just upgraded a spare box, to see if it's safe to upgrade my main machine, and the upgrade has broken sudo. When I try to use sudo it says: sudo: unable to resolve host calc calc being the hostname of this machine. How do I fix this? I guess adding the hostname to /etc/hosts would fix it but I can't do that because sudo is broken. Also I haven't set up a root account on this machine. Aside from booting from a rescue disk is there any other way to fix this? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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Re: [wlug] sudo broken after upgrade from gutsy to hairy^Whardy
by GJB 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Aren't we whistling past the graveyard here? Why the hell should a system upgrade cause a sudo failure?? Or am I an idiot for wondering why the adminsitrator should be locked out of his system because he was bold enough to upgrade? Has any one bugged this? Or asked why even? > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] sudo broken after upgrade from gutsy to > hairy^Whardy > From: "James Pluck" <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, April 30, 2008 3:12 pm > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> wrote: > > > > > > > 2008/4/30 James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *brain-break* Shouldn't that be 127.0.0.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. 127.0.1.1 > > > > > > > > Why is Localhost 1.1 in Ubuntu instead of 0.1 as is the norm? > > > > > > Enquiring minds and all that :) > > > > > > > localhost is still 127.0.0.1, the name of the machine is 127.0.1.1 > > > > Ahh! I wasn't aware of that. I learned something today *grin* > > And I have no idea why. Googling only comes up with problems caused by it.. > > no explanation of why they set things up this way. > > > > Hmmm - interesting. > > > -- > James Pluck > PalmOS Ergo Sum > "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. > Please remove my name from your mailing list..."<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Video card fun
by Bryce Utting 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Hi all, Recently purchased a Gigabyte nVidia from PB Tech, hit problems with it (google "8800gt black screen" if interested), and have effectively been told by them to sod off. So, three questions: 1. Anyone got a spare 550W+ ATX supply I could borrow for a few days for last-ditch troubleshooting? (nothing on the web suggests it'll make a difference, but it doesn't hurt to demonstrate that, yes, I've done -everything- to narrow it down to the card.) 2. Once a letter quoting the Consumer Guarantees Act has obtained a refund -- any recommendations on anyone to buy from who -isn't- a thorough fscktard? 3. Thoughts on reasonably-priced preferably non-nVidia cards suitable for gaming? (PCIe, 512MB, etc. the 8800GT was.... -ouch-... $380) ('tis a Windows box -- sigh -- so driver support is a low priority.) ta, Bryce -- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Robert O'Callahan (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/) will talk about Firefox 3 development FOXHOLES: News From The Front Line Of The Browser Wars Web browsers have become a primary application platform, arguably more important than traditional client operating systems. They are also a key security frontier, a vigorously competitive market, and a crucial front in the battle for free software and open standards. For these and other reasons, browser development is both extremely challenging and extremely important. As a core Firefox developer, I will discuss challenges facing our project: competition from Internet Explorer and other browsers; changes to fundamental assumptions about code-level security vulnerabilities; sustaining and evolving a complex and fragile codebase; and the successes and failures of our tools and processes as one of the world's flagship open source projects. Looking forward, I will discuss our efforts to keep the Web vital, in concert with like-minded browser vendors and standards organizations, by enhancing the Web platform with vector and 3D graphics, offline Web applications, accessibility, ric her typography and layout, enhancements to the Javascript language, efforts to improve cross-browser compatibility, and more. I will talk about why everyone should care and what people can do to help --- which includes joining Mozilla to hack on Gecko with my team!

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The Heron has landed: Ubuntu 8.04 officially released
by Peter Reutemann 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

Probably old news to most of you, but I'll post it anyway (while I'm downloading the CD images)... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080424-the-heron-has-landed-ubuntu-8… I'm especially intrigued by the new sound architecture and kernel. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ +64 (7) 838-4466 Ext. 5174

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Robert O'Callahan (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/) will talk about Firefox 3 development FOXHOLES: News From The Front Line Of The Browser Wars Web browsers have become a primary application platform, arguably more important than traditional client operating systems. They are also a key security frontier, a vigorously competitive market, and a crucial front in the battle for free software and open standards. For these and other reasons, browser development is both extremely challenging and extremely important. As a core Firefox developer, I will discuss challenges facing our project: competition from Internet Explorer and other browsers; changes to fundamental assumptions about code-level security vulnerabilities; sustaining and evolving a complex and fragile codebase; and the successes and failures of our tools and processes as one of the world's flagship open source projects. Looking forward, I will discuss our efforts to keep the Web vital, in concert with like-minded browser vendors and standards organizations, by enhancing the Web platform with vector and 3D graphics, offline Web applications, accessibility, ric her typography and layout, enhancements to the Javascript language, efforts to improve cross-browser compatibility, and more. I will talk about why everyone should care and what people can do to help --- which includes joining Mozilla to hack on Gecko with my team!

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linkies
by Bruce Kingsbury 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Good News; http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080421091129596 "Word documents generated by today's version of Microsoft Office 2007 do not conform to ISO/IEC 29500," said Brown in a blog post recounting the process of testing a document against the "strict" and "transitional" schema defined in the standard. Let's all make sure governments mandating 'software that conforms to ISO standards' are aware of this, mmmk? Bad news; http://opensource.org/node/328 OLPC to use Windows XP instead of Linux? WTF? Epic fail! "I have no idea what pressures Negroponte is under. I have no idea what failures of leadership, vision, or courage have occurred, are occurring, or are at risk of occurring at the OLPC project today. It would be irresponsible to jump to too many conclusions based on a single article. But if OLPC abandons its open source roots, then I do not see the project accomplishing any of its goals."

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) Robert O'Callahan (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/) will talk about Firefox 3 development FOXHOLES: News From The Front Line Of The Browser Wars Web browsers have become a primary application platform, arguably more important than traditional client operating systems. They are also a key security frontier, a vigorously competitive market, and a crucial front in the battle for free software and open standards. For these and other reasons, browser development is both extremely challenging and extremely important. As a core Firefox developer, I will discuss challenges facing our project: competition from Internet Explorer and other browsers; changes to fundamental assumptions about code-level security vulnerabilities; sustaining and evolving a complex and fragile codebase; and the successes and failures of our tools and processes as one of the world's flagship open source projects. Looking forward, I will discuss our efforts to keep the Web vital, in concert with like-minded browser vendors and standards organizations, by enhancing the Web platform with vector and 3D graphics, offline Web applications, accessibility, ric her typography and layout, enhancements to the Javascript language, efforts to improve cross-browser compatibility, and more. I will talk about why everyone should care and what people can do to help --- which includes joining Mozilla to hack on Gecko with my team!

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Kernel based video mode setting
by Ian McDonald 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

http://www.osnews.com/story/19661 Shows where graphics is going in Linux at a low level.. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Open sourcing web video
by Ian McDonald 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9918865-16.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=254… Haven't actually checked out the project fully but sounds interesting. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Thrusday Night Curry
by Lindsay Druett 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

Hey Guys, Further to Friday's email... I can believe the week is going so fast. I absolutely must now by tomorrow lunch time who's coming so that I can book a place, hopefully Little India. Please email me off list if you're attending or place your name on the wiki. http://hamilton.thursdaynightcurry.com/index.php/Next_event Please pass this around other lists... nznog, wand, wellyLug, Auckland, Wellington TNC.

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Fwd: Waikato Committee Meeting
by David Hallett 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

Peter has the following dates available this month: 16,22,28,29 & 30. The last 3 subject to change at short notice. Do these correlate with any dates you have available? If so, please let us know on list which days. (ASAP!) Otherwise, May 1st or May 8th are the next Thursdays on which we can meet. Thanks, David Unfortunately we had too many last minute cancellations to ensure that we met quorum for our committee meeting. We need to have one this month! Can people please advise on list what dates they can attend. We need attendance commitment from committee members otherwise we end up wasting each other's time. Apologies to Ivan who didn't get my email and was the only person who turned up to the last scheduled committee meeting. I have also received an email from Paul Matthews (CEO) who informed me that we need to appoint a Branch Secretary (it's an "officer" of the branch, and hence a constitutional requirement). Can someone willing to perform this role please volunteer - that last thing we want to do is draw straws for the position!

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Fwd: [NGNOPS'08] CFP: IEEE Workshop on Open Source and Next-Generation Networking, Applications and technologies
by Ian McDonald 12 Apr '08

12 Apr '08

This might be of interest to some who are studying?? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <cbalakri(a)glam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:33 PM Subject: [NGNOPS'08] CFP: IEEE Workshop on Open Source and Next-Generation Networking, Applications and technologies To: Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> Call for Papers, Workshop. ========================== The IEEE NGNOPS'08 workshop is colocated with the IEEE NGMAST'08 conference and scheduled on the Sep 18, 2008, Cardiff, Wales, UK. http://www.comp.glam.ac.uk/NGMAST08/workshops/ngnops/index.htm IMPORTANT DATES: Paper Submission: 30 April 2008 Notification of Acceptance: 30 May 2008 Camera Ready 22 June 2008 Author/Early Registration 22 June 2008 Workshop 18 September 2008 Exhibition 17-18 September 2008 Conference Dates 17–19 September 2008 Objective of the workshop =================== The objective of the NGN-OPS workshop is to discuss the open source activities contributing to aspects Next Generation Networking (NGN), mobile devices, development environment and open source technologies enabling in creating an open ecosystem. We are inviting both theoretical, developmental and experimental papers as well as work-in-progress research projects. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Open Source software development projects and community efforts relating to o Next Generation Networking o Mobile Devices o Mobility Technologies o Pervasive Networking o Mobile Applications Development Frameworks and Tools o Deployment of Community Networks using Open Source software and tools * Open Standards efforts relating to o Next Generation Networking o Mobile Applications and Web 2.0 o Network Management for NGNs * Open Source based o NGN Services prototypes o NGN Services test beds * Community based efforts in Wireless Networking PAPER SUBMISSION: ================= Full papers reporting original and unpublished research results on NGMAST topics are solicited. Submissions must not be under consideration for publication elsewhere while being evaluated for this conference. * FORMATTING: The proceedings will be published by the prestigious IEEE Computer Society Press. Submissions must be in IEEE two-column format and must not exceed 6 pages, including figures, tables and references. The cover page should contain title, author names, affiliations, and email addresses. Please indicate clearly the corresponding author. Include up to five keywords from the above list and an abstract of no more than 300 words. * HOW TO SUBMIT: The paper submission for IEEE NGNOPS 2008 will only be accepted through the EDAS Paper Submission System accessible from the link on the website. Only papers in PDF will be accepted for reviewing. Submissions as e-mail attachment will not be accepted. * REVIEWING: Consistent with standard practice, each submitted paper will receive rigorous peer reviewing. Papers will be selected based on their originality, timeliness, significance, relevance and clarity of presentation. Selection will be based on full papers. Submission implies the willingness of at least one of the authors to register and present the paper, if accepted. All accepted papers of the conference are expected to be presented and will be included in the conference proceedings. * CAMERA READY MANUSCRIPT: Accepted papers will need to be formatted in IEEE format (see publication guidelines on the conference website). Camera ready papers must be submitted directly to IEEE through a link that will be activated on the conference website. Again: Only PDF files will be accepted! -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Cisco allowing people to use Linux on ISR
by Ian McDonald 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/04/cisco-set-to-dominate-linux-ma… http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3740106 I don't know enough about Cisco routers to know which series this applies to. Maybe Lindsay might like to comment? -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Hamilton Curry - 17th April 2008 - upcoming to the Hamilton 400 V8 Supercars
by Lindsay Druett 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Yes, we're definitely well overdue for a Thursday night curry in H'tron. And with geeks coming to the tron to watch the V8 supercars in action, well, what's a better time to get together and have a curry ? So far, I have got 4 people keen for an early curry, personally 6:30pm onwards would suit me. Because of the nature of the upcoming event, the Hamilton 400 V8 Supercars, I really need to get firm numbers so that I can book ahead At this stage, I'm looking at Little India in Alexandra St which is in Hamilton CBD. On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 17:57 +1200, David Hallett wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Shane Hobson > <shane(a)velocitynetworks.co.nz> wrote: > > > > I'm keen, but would prefer an earlier start. > Any thoughts on 6:00 pm ? > Leave from work, goto to TNC ? > > > I like your thinking Shane. I'm keen on that suggestion. > Especially makes life easier for those of us who live rurally. > Otherwise it's an hour-round trip! > > -- > David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS, MNZSA > Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd > P.O. Box 15-516 > Hamilton, New Zealand > > Mob: +64-21-802 256 > Email: david(a)pulsar.net.nz > > _______________________________________________ > Hamilton mailing list > Hamilton(a)list.thursdaynightcurry.com > http://list.thursdaynightcurry.com/mailman/listinfo/hamilton

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hamiltron V8s
by Brenda Wallace 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hi folks i'm heading to tron for the V8 races. Are there any WLUG gatherings around this time? i'm in town from afternoon on 17th, leaving on the 21st. -Brenda

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wtb .. pci serial card
by stephen pearce 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

Hi Wanted to buy or beg pci serial card .. preferably 2 ports Tnx -- Stephen Pearce Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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HP jump in on Linux sub-notebook
by Ian McDonald 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Competition is great. Linux is great for this too, given their (lack of) horsepower and the licensing cost (basically zero). http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/04/08/new-hp-education-subno… I see Microsoft is extending XP Home/Starter - just for this category only though. Again a healthy sign of competition. -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 202, Issue 8
by Jaco van der Merwe 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

must....remember....to.....omit....body...of...old...text...... > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 202, Issue 8 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:00:08 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mac limitations (Jaco van der Merwe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:59:47 +0200 > From: Jaco van der Merwe <freakalad(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] Mac limitations > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY116-W340DB336492747EEB258A3BCF30(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > Hi folks, > > I've moved on to a new job now, doing more hard-core networking & security, and I'm running into a 'glass wall' in terms of functionality & performance. I bought my MacBook pro because it's really good hardware & nice & portable, not to mention it looks really slick. > > I want bump up the memory to the max 4GB & to load on Ubuntu, and then run OS/X & windoze in VMWare. > But I need to set up a recovery system so that I can get back to 'normal' in a pinch if all goes wrong. Unfortunately I did not bring my original OEM OS disks with me. > > Could anyone please assist me or give some advice. I'll scour the ubuntuforums for more info > > Thanks > > - J _________________________________________________________________ Messenger likes to chat, one on one..or to everyone! Welcome to the Family – Download the Windows Live Messenger now http://get.live.com/messenger/overview/

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