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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting things to do with OpenOffice Basic Ian Stewart has been doing some fun and interesting things with the built in Basic in OpenOffice, and has offered to do a presentation on this and talk about some of the things he's discovered along the way. June 28th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 Jun '10

20 Jun '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting things to do with OpenOffice Basic Ian Stewart has been doing some fun and interesting things with the built in Basic in OpenOffice, and has offered to do a presentation on this and talk about some of the things he's discovered along the way. June 28th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Fix it meeting tomorrow.
by Ron Dean 04 Jun '10

04 Jun '10

Is the Fixit meeting being held tomorrow . I would like to come if it is -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday June 5th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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job vacancy - Software Developer (Linux)
by John McPherson 31 May '10

31 May '10

Global-Pix.com runs several websites, including the Marathon-Photos.com site. In 2009 we photographed more than 400 events through 30 countries - taking more than 4 million images and recording over a thousand hours' worth of video footage. We are looking for another Programmer to join our small development team based at our offices in Hamilton. We want someone with a minimum of 3 years' programming experience, particularly with the Python programming language. In this position you would help maintain and program both customer-facing and internal/back-end systems, reporting to the team lead. You will be responsible for implementing feature and change requests as well as developing new projects. Most of our projects are written in python, but you have some latitude to use other technologies where appropriate. Any expertise in the following areas would be an advantage: * HTML, CSS and jQuery * Cheetah templating system * SQL databases * SMTP, IMAP Experience in system administration would also be a distinct advantage, especially: * Server internals (eg RAID, SATA, UPSes) * Debian GNU/Linux administration experience * LAN management (configuration, DNS/bind, diagnostics, etc) * Centralised account management - LDAP, SMB, SSH Salary is negotiable based on skillset and experience. Our office has a small and friendly atmosphere near the middle of the Hamilton CBD. Please send email to vacancies(a)global-pix.com to apply or request further information. (If you reply to this email, please ensure that your reply stays off-list) -- John McPherson

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Shared authentication, 2010 style
by Craig Box 27 May '10

27 May '10

Back in the day (a Wednesday, for those who remember it) us WLUG/NZLUG folks were pretty clued up when it came to things like connecting Linux machines to Active Directory using SAMBA [1]. However, kids these days just don't know what kind of crap we had to go through back then, and while I haven't done the testing myself, I'm pretty sure that today you just type 'apt-get install likewise-open', and you don't have to know any magic incantations at all. How about if you want to run a central directory on Linux, not on Windows? You could look at the Ubuntu guide [2]. Or "LDAP for the Lazy Sysadmin" [3]. Do go check that last one out - you don't have to read it all. Just scroll through it for a second. I'll wait. <<taps toes>> That isn't lazy at all! Lazy is paying Microsoft for Active Directory. Unfortunately, due to one complexity or another, it seemed AD often won out for a situation where you had to have some Windows machines as well as your Linux hosts. I remember thinking it strange back when Windows was supposed to be all about the desktop and Linux was supposed to be all about the server, that you got a better client experience on Linux and server experience on Windows. It's 2010 now. Flying cars, etc. I want central authentication across a small network of Ubuntu machines - no Windows machines are expected. Ultimately I'd like multi-master (I believe 389, formerly Fedora DS/Netscape Directory Server does this; and OpenLDAP does not?) so I don't have to think too much about failover/redundancy. Please, someone, tell me there is a better solution? Is there a turn-key method for this? Craig [1] http://www.wlug.org.nz/SambaAsPDC?action=PageHistory and http://www.wlug.org.nz/LDAPAuthentication?action=PageHistory for some examples. Look at the dates. [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html [3] http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/LDAP/LazySysadmin

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Re: [wlug] [nzlug] Shared authentication, 2010 style
by Craig Box 25 May '10

25 May '10

> You'll want an LDAP server, a Kerberos server, NTP server, pam_ldap and pam_krb5. You can auth against ldap if you don't want kerberos, but I think krb is a much better solution. > > Setting up ldap will be the most pain, Active Directory and Open Directory come with schemas set up, but you'll have to figure out what you want yourself. I believe there are some gui tools for this these days, but last I checked it wasn't much better than 2002. See, that's the point. I /don't/ want any of that. I want to apt-get install --jfdi ubuntu-directory-server. Then I want to apt-get install ubuntu-managed-client. If I have to figure out what I need, the problem isn't solved. (Personally, I hate LDAP, but it is what it is.) Interestingly, there are blueprints and specs for almost every Ubuntu release in the last 2 years suggesting they should implement this, but there doesn't seem to be any movement. There is a guy working on a bunch of Puppet recipes, and should I end up using LDAP and automating deployment, I will probably end up contributing to this. </rant> Good news though, I did have another look at the eBox website today [1], and it seems they have a potential turn-key-esque answer. (Dagan, Apache Directory Studio looks quite good - I will check it out. Unfortunately it doesn't solve the "which schema do I choose" problem any.) Craig [1] http://www.ebox-platform.com/

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NZ Computer Society National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone
by David Hallett 24 May '10

24 May '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone 9 June 2010: 12:00pm - 1:30pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS is proud to bring you the next of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on ICT in a disaster zone and the role technology plays in saving lives. National Series: ICT in a Disaster Zone As we know, ICT has transformed everyday life and changed the way we do things. As well as this, technology now plays a pivotal role in the global humanitarian and rescue response when disaster strikes around the world. The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies have established a number of IT & Telecommunications Emergency Response Units (ERUs) to help in the response to disasters and emergencies around the world. New Zealand's ERU was the 5th such unit and consists of a team of 20 with diverse backgrounds in telecommunications and ICT. The Emergency Response Units are charged with putting in place emergency telecommunications infrastructure to support the rescue effort. Ongoing power and internet outages as well as IT system software and hardware failures within the country create significant difficulties for Red Cross to maintain ongoing contact with key partners, field staff and external contacts, making this role essential. As an active member of the NZ Red Cross IT&T ERU, Steve Davis will outline the impact greater use of telecommunications and IT infrastructure has had on the rescue efforts in disaster-hit areas such as Haiti, Tonga and the Solomon Islands, the challenges faced, as well as some of the background to the Red Cross IT&T team. About The Speaker Steve Davis has a background in Radio Communications and IT spanning more than 25 years and has been putting this to use in the fields of Emergency Management and Disaster Response through a number of agencies over the past 18 years. Through an early interest in electronics and radio Steve obtained his amateur radio license in 1980, soon after becoming a member of the New Zealand Association of Amateur Radio Transmitters (NZART) and later joining the Amateur Radio Emergency Communications group (AREC). Steve has served as a member of the National Council for NZART, various offices for the local NZART branch and as Section Leader for the local AREC Section. Through AREC Steve became involved in Land Search and Rescue in New Zealand and has responded to many searches to provide communications and IT support at the Incident Control Point. Steve has also participated in local, regional and national roles of the Land SAR organisation over many years. In more recent times Steve has become a member of NZ Red Cross’s first International Emergency Response Unit, providing IT & Telecommunications support to International and Local Red Cross in times of a major disaster. Steve is currently self employed providing training, consulting and contracting services in a range of fields in the ICT and Emergency Management sectors, and is active in NZCS, Scouts NZ, and the Mountain Safety Council. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/152-National_Series_ICT_in_a_Disa… <http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio…> Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 May '10

23 May '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Update problem
by john 23 May '10

23 May '10

I have a very strange problem. I had Ubuntu 9.10 working well on my desktop - after updating to 10.04, it would not recognise my mouse or keyboard - they are not usb, they are the older plug in types (?ps2). When I plugged in a usb mouse, and rebooted, both the usb and old devices worked intermittently. I then plugged in a usb wireless keyboard and mouse and all was well for a while but now both have ceased to function - I just get a stationary arrow and no way of accessing anything. They all work perfectly if I boot into windows as this is a dual boot computer. Any ideas?

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Fixit Day Next month
by Ron Dean 23 May '10

23 May '10

Is it being held on the 5th of June as it's Queens Birthday Weekend. -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 20 May '10

20 May '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Free registration for tomorrow's NZCS National Series Event!
by David Hallett 16 May '10

16 May '10

I've just come off the phone to the NZCS CEO. He said that due to the interest of this topic to members of the LUG, that NZCS will provide 5 free registrations to this event for members of WLUG. Please email me off-list and I will register you for this event. http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio… Be quick to secure your free lunch! Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Transformational ICT through Open Data
by David Hallett 16 May '10

16 May '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Transformational ICT through Open Data 18 May 2010: 12:00pm - 1:30pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS is proud to bring you the next of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on the concept of open data, and how it is transforming the ICT sector. Transformational ICT through Open Data Throughout Europe in the 18th Century the great Age of Enlightenment was born, a movement promoting the black arts of education, reason and logic in decision-making. In this entertaining and informative presentation popular ICT commentator and online strategist Paul Reynolds will shine light on the new Internet-driven "Age of Enlightenment" happening right now, and how individuals and organisations can cash in on the phenomena by building upon the growing wealth of publicly-available open data covering everything from map and geospatial information, through to the human genome itself. Exploring what is available and where is fascinating, and as Reynolds takes us through some of the more obscure and interesting datasets freely available, what we can do with it will surprise even the most data-aware information scientists amongst us. Reynolds will argue that with the age of the Internet and the new age of Cloud Computing now upon us, the revolution is already here, with levels of information and data never seen before at our fingertips and the type, nature and volume of open data expanding rapidly. Similarly, the scope and range of the tools being applied to open government and e-democracy are transforming the landscape we, as ICT professionals, operate in, also impacting on politicians, bureaucrats, citizens and business. But where does the ICT profession sit in relation to these double revolutions? Managing information and data has responsibilities attached, and is the profession really ready and open to always-on ubiquitous networks, or will risk aversion, and a craving for the old certainties of centralisation send the baby with the bathwater? In a truly inspired presentation designed to provoke discussion and debate Paul Reynolds's asks: Is the ICT profession ready for the 18th century? Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/139-National_Series_Transformatio… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 May '10

16 May '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Software Freedom Day 2010 A presentation and summary of previous SFD events that WLUG has run, and our plans for http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 May 24th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Grub boot problem, help please
by Cesar 16 May '10

16 May '10

Hi, I wonder if anybody could please advice me on a booting issue. I have double hard disk computer, which I was using with either Ubuntu or Windows depending on the need of the moment. I have been using the F10 option at start-up to select the Windows HD when needed. After upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu, I cannot boot in Windows any more. While I was upgrading, "Grub" software opened options, and I most likely selected the wrong ones. Now when the computer boots, only does it in Ubuntu, even if I select Windows option. Even selecting the HD of Windows with the F10 option, still doesn't boot on Windows, it just get stopped on a black screen. For the grub version : ada(a)ada-desktop:~$ dpkg -l grub\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==============-==============-============================================ un grub <none> (no description available) ii grub-common 1.98-1ubuntu5 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (common un grub-coreboot <none> (no description available) un grub-doc <none> (no description available) un grub-efi <none> (no description available) un grub-efi-amd64 <none> (no description available) un grub-efi-ia32 <none> (no description available) un grub-emu <none> (no description available) un grub-ieee1275 <none> (no description available) un grub-legacy <none> (no description available) un grub-legacy-do <none> (no description available) un grub-linuxbios <none> (no description available) ii grub-pc 1.98-1ubuntu5 GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS un grub2 <none> (no description available) Here is a copy of the grub.cfg # # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub # ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then load_env fi set default="0" if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry} save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi function savedefault { if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then saved_entry=${chosen} save_env saved_entry fi } function recordfail { set recordfail=1 if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi } insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then set gfxmode=640x480 insmod gfxterm insmod vbe if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else # For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't # understand terminal_output terminal gfxterm fi fi insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale set lang=en insmod gettext if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then set timeout=-1 else set timeout=10 fi ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### set menu_color_normal=white/black set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-21-generic ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 ro single echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin } menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 8af1e583-20e8-459f-94b6-2e1c12a7e952 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 } ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sdb1)" { insmod ntfs set root='(/dev/sdb,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set e29010fc9010d8bd drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} chainloader +1 } ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### Help will be very much appreciated. Regards Cesar Waksman

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Dell, ubuntu 10.4, Phillips 21"
by Andrew Crosby 08 May '10

08 May '10

Hi I am having trouble with a ubuntu 10.4 install, the problem is sometimes it detects the display, and changes to its native res (something like 2048x1560) however other times it doesn't and then default to 1024x768, this wouldn't be a problem if it just stuck with one all the time, but it seams to take liberties about when it chooses with res to go with, and as this is a pc for my parents, it is somewhat annoying, any ideas? Cheers Andrew (PS, its a fairly boring intel on board graphics chipset)

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Some cheap, good Linux games for you (DRM Free)
by Liz Quilty 07 May '10

07 May '10

This is the best promo ever, i thought the games were so good i ended up donating more money. 5 good Linux,Mac,Windows games for a donation. http://www.wolfire.com/humble Liz

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O'Reilly donation
by John Billings 06 May '10

06 May '10

We received a donation of 5 new books from O'Reilly: * Learning Perl http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=69 * Ubuntu Up And Running http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=68 * Version Control w/ Git http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=66 * The Ruby Programming Language http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=67 * Mastering Regular Expressions http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=65 Books will be available at our upcoming meetings. Thanks to O'Reilly for donating these books, Marsee and Kristin over there were very helpful getting these out to us. http://oreilly.com/ Check out their DRM free ebooks: http://oreilly.com/ebooks/ Cheers, John

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meeting topic this month.
by John Billings 05 May '10

05 May '10

A few people at the workshop last Saturday mentioned they might be interested in presenting at our regular meeting. Will be the 24th this month. AFAIK there is nothing planned, so anyone have any suggestions, want to follow up? Thanks, John

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Acer 5315 Laptop overheating with ubuntu 10.04 32 biit
by Ron Dean 04 May '10

04 May '10

One of the fixes I've found on the net is to edit the grub2 file which has a basic emacs editor they suggest we add a line acpi=off however I don't seem to be able to save it. What command should I use? cntrl + s doesn't seem to work Ron Dean

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday May 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Also since this will be shortly after the release of Lucid Lynx, we'll have a bit of party food and make this a Lucid Lynx Release Party. Special appearance from Tux the penguin (Cairo) who will be handing out little chocolate fish to anyone who wants them. http://softwarefreedomday.org/gallery/2007/newzealand/hamilton?action=Attac… Ubuntu ISOs wanted: * Kubuntu * DVD images zcat has; * ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso * ubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso * ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso * ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso John has: * ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso * xubuntu-10.04-alternate-i386.iso Download From: * Torrents, if you can (it helps keep the load down on the http/ftp mirrors) * http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/ * http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/

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Saturday workshop / Lucid Release Party TOMORROW!
by Bruce Kingsbury 30 Apr '10

30 Apr '10

I don't know what's happened to the Wlug Reminder Bot, but it doesn't seem to have picked up tomorrow's meeting. I've bought some party food already and just downloading the ISO's now. Saturday May 1st, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. Also since this will be shortly after the release of Lucid Lynx, we'll have a bit of party food and make this a Lucid Lynx Release Party.

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[OT] local support for small (Win) network
by Michael Doerner - TechnologyWise 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Apologies for this OT posting but I prefer and hope to find the right person or company through a local Linux user group rather searching through Yellow Pages or similar. I hope this is OK. We are a systems integrator in Tauranga. As much as we like to use Open Source (especially Linux based servers), real life means we often have to deal with the Windows world as well. For an existing customer from Tauranga, we will setup a new office in Hamilton, a small LAN with three Windows7 machines, a multifunction printer and one machine being the peer to peer server with a USB backup device. All pretty normal stuff. The only Open Source there, at least for the beginning will be OpenOffice, Thunderbird and Firefox. Ideally we are looking for a local company (or maybe single person) who wants to help us as their local support in case they need someone on-site. If there is any interest, please contact me directly (NO replies to this list please). Thank You. Michael Doerner TechnologyWise Ltd | Tauranga / NZ michael(a)tw.co.nz | www.technologywise.co.nz

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Software Patents
by John Billings 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Just following up on last nights meeting where we watched Patent Absurdity, I mentioned Andrew Tridgell's talk at LCA this year. You can get the video of it here: http://2009.r2.co.nz/20100118/50091.htm He has some no nonsense advice for Free Software developers in dealing with patents. Cheers, John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu desktop image feeds (Peter Reutemann)
by Eric Light 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

Hi Peter, Thanks for your response! I've tried Webilder, but there are no repositories for either Karmic or Jaunty. Your second link however guided me to "Drapes" which I'm putting through the paces now... Perhaps I'll just need to download a bunch of wallpapers and let it do the rest of the magic :-) Thanks again Cheers, - Eric Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:05:06 +1200 > From: Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Ubuntu desktop image feeds > Message-ID: > <j2k548e07051004221605gbdddbf53p2e433897b7b0e283(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > I'm looking for an app that will change my Ubuntu (Karmic) desktop image > > periodically, with images from Flickr. > > > > E.g. I'd like it to automatically flick through the photos here > > (http://www.flickr.com/photos/metservice-nz/) every hour or so. > > > > Any advice?? Does this exist yet? > > A quick search for "ubuntu desktop background image flickr changer": > > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-set-flickr-images-as-ubuntu-desktop-wallpap… > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-wallpaper-changer-apps-for-linux/ > > Webuilder seems to be closest to what you want. Only downside, you > need to trigger the download of the images manually. > > NB: haven't used any of these tools myself. > > Cheers, Peter > -- > Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ > http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/<http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/%7Efracpete/> Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 > > >

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 25 Apr '10

25 Apr '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Ubuntu desktop image feeds
by Eric Light 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Hi everyone, I'm looking for an app that will change my Ubuntu (Karmic) desktop image periodically, with images from Flickr. E.g. I'd like it to automatically flick through the photos here ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/metservice-nz/) every hour or so. Any advice? Does this exist yet? Cheers, - Eric

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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permission bit calculator script ???
by newbie01 linux 22 Apr '10

22 Apr '10

Hi, Does anyone have a permission but calculator script that I can use or know any that I can get from somewhere? Currently Googling, and so far can't find one that is a script ... Thanks in advance.

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Film screening: Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system Against the backdrop of of the current Bilski case in the US Supreme Court, the film features a series of interviews explaining the absurdity of software patents and how we got into this mess. In light of the recent decision by a select committee that software should NOT be patentable in New Zealand, the WLUG committee decided that this would be a good time to screen this film, and discuss some of the issues surrounding software patents. Patentable Inventions: We Recommend amending clause 15 to include computer programs among inventions that may not be patented. We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs. Under the Patents Act 1953 computer programs can be patented in New Zealand provided the produce a commercially useful effect. Open Source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting is inconsistent with the open source model, and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argued that there is no "inventive step" in software development, as 'new' software invariably builds on existing software. They felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition. In general we accept this position. http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B6E4F834-C47A-426A-86B8-F573ED4F5E04/… April 26th 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Seeking DDR Ram
by James Pluck 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Hi All! A friend has been given a desktop machine but it only has 512 meg of ram and is sluggish. He has asked me if anyone has some second hand DDR ram he might be able to purchase. Has anyone got any ram they want to sell? Cheers James. -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus

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Fwd: [nzlug] Cross-Post: PublicACTA Outputs: Wellington Declaration & Petition
by Bruce Kingsbury 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

Just in case anyone missed this on the other lists ;) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> Date: 11 April 2010 22:01 Subject: [nzlug] Cross-Post: PublicACTA Outputs: Wellington Declaration & Petition To: nzlug(a)linux.net.nz, aucklug(a)linux.net.nz Cc: nzlug-announce(a)linux.net.nz Greetings everyone, and apologies for the cross-post. This issue bears some publicity! The Wellington Declaration generated by the folks who attended the PublicACTA event this weekend in Wellington, is something I believe we LUG'rs should be getting behind. Refer the following: http://publicacta.org.nz/wellington-declaration/ http://publicacta.org.nz/sign-the-wellington-declaration/ If you support the statements made in the URL above - and really, I'd be surprised if you don't - please sign the electronic petition at this URL: http://www.gopetition.com/online/35443.html All signatures added before Tuesday morning NZ Time will be appended to the Declaration when it is communicated to the NZ Government negotiators, who (it is hoped) will circulate it to all the ACTA delegations. Background: ACTA (the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement or ACTA) is a controversial international treaty being negotiated in a series of secret meetings. ACTA is proposed as a plurilateral trade agreement for establishing international standards on intellectual property rights enforcement. It is being negotiated between the US, Canada, Japan, the European Union, South Korea, Mexico, Switzerland, Australia and New Zealand. Unfortunately, the negotiations have extended beyond trade and physical counterfeiting to potentially cover non-commercial infringement of copyright material by ordinary citizens and issues of digital rights management. PublicACTA was organised by InternetNZ to give the public opportunity to critique the known and likely content of ACTA proposals. Several issues abound in ACTA; the scope of the agreement is much wider than simply an agreement around trade, and the ramifications should it come into force will be dire for New Zealanders. The NZOSS, which many of you will know of and know that I am also involved with, have taken their stance regarding ACTA to the Government: http://nzoss.org.nz/news/2010/nzoss-submission-acta Please be aware of ACTA, and if you support the position being taken by InternetNZ, NZOSS and many, many other groups and NGOs both in NZ and worldwide, show your support. Cheers Mark Foster Administrator - NZLUG, AuckLUG _______________________________________________ NZLUG mailing list NZLUG(a)linux.net.nz http://www.linux.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nzlug -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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NZ Computer Society National Series: A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm (Plus Branch AGM)
by David Hallett 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm (Plus Branch AGM) 18 March 2010: 12:00pm - 1:45pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS are proud to kick off the new National ICT Series, beginning with well-known IT Skeptic Rob England presenting on what would appear to be regarded as the utopia of service management, RealITSM... A Harmonious IT Environment through Realitsm Idealised models such as ITIL®, COBIT and ISO20000 are all very well for theoretical discussions, but more and more people are discovering these models just don't fit the way we do things in the real world. Join the movement that is sweeping the ITSM community. Find out about Real ITSM, as it is done in the real world. Making IT Real. Get Real. RealITSM, that is... In this light-hearted and humorous presentation Rob England, the well known "IT Skeptic", introduces Real ITSM, as documented in the book "Introduction to Real ITSM" (see www.realitsm.com) RealITSM is the methodology of implementing IT service management as it is done now in the real world, thereby saving costs, minimising impact and ensuring acceptance. Realitsm (pronounced "realism" with a slight lisp) is the underlying philosophy of primarily ensuring a tranquil life for IT staff. After all, life is hard for us IT types! The main threats to IT stability, or at least the stability of the IT team, are change, accountability and reduced spending. Realitsm is about eliminating these threats from the IT environment, in the best interests of all in IT. A harmonious IT environment requires adherence to the following Realitsm principles: * Ensure a stable operating environment * Maximise adaptability to change * Promote involvement through collectivist decision-making * Maintain morale through reduced group accountability * Maximise revenue and funding for the IT department * Maximise benefit and value for the IT staff Realitsm may be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, however by reflecting on the motivations of teams and managers that unknowingly subscribe to some of its principles, a level of clarity on the importance of service management becomes apparent. This is a not-to-be-missed presentation for anyone in the Service Management space or those interested in a humorous presentation from one of the more colorful figures in New Zealand's IT scene. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: http://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/114-National_Series_A_Harmonious_… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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Re: [wlug] Ge Force FX 5200
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 05 Apr '10

05 Apr '10

Hi I have an agp card with "fx5200" written on the back however it only has a vga and a video out plug. I guess we are talking on different levels as I am not really a geek just trying to be helpful. If it is of some use to you just let me know regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hello, > > I am looking to build a MythTV box for a friend using a > satellite card to capture/watch/record Freeview. > > I've already got my own box working. > > Prior to HD, I understand the Nvidia GeForce FX5200 was > considered a good graphics card and is infact what I use > (more by luck than design). It has an TV-OUT RCA socket. > > Would anyone on the list have something like that spare > that they would be willing to sell? > > If you wish to reply, please reply to me off list. > > Cheers, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Batch renaming Photo's
by John 03 Apr '10

03 Apr '10

For those who were at the meeting today, I succeeded in getting a program that will batch rename my photos easily (K Rename) having had a couple of wee trial runs I am sure I can get what I need from this. Liz, Many thanks for your offer of a script. I am quietly thankful that I will not require it :) Regards John

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 02 Apr '10

02 Apr '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Internet problems
by Michael McDonald 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Was installing Ubuntu 9.10 on some relatively old hardware (c2002-2004) at SeniorNet this afternoon and had an unusual problem. I could ping google.com but could not go to Google site on Firefox. I could bring the router/modem status up on the browser. That page has an automatic refresh, and I got the impression that the transmission speed was slow. There was a brief (at least 0.5sec?) blank screen between successive frames - something I don't recollect having seen happening before. Computer has been fine in the past - used to run Windows XP - and had beta Windows 7 running for several months (after upgrading RAM and optical drive). Double-checked by running Puppy 4.3 ... no problems at all with the Internet. Tried, I think (there's no guarantee that what you've done is what you think you have done!) putting ISP DNS server address directly in eth0 settings, but it didn't appear to make a difference. Tried both auto DHCP and manual settings. Has anyone experienced this before and know how to get around the problem? Is there a problem with the NZ Ubuntu server? Was testing on a spare computer yesterday and wanted to add some software. Seems the NZ server wasn't playing ball and I only succeeded after changing to the main server. My main system is set to the NZ server and I've not noticed any problems!! Finally, getting back to the computer I was dealing with today ... installing Windows 7 beta several months ago was an interesting exercise. The installer was quite happy with the LCD screen plugged in at the time, but Windows 7 itself refused to display on it. It wasn't until I substituted an ancient CRT monitor that I discovered that Windows 7 had installed successfully. Michael

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 15
by stephen pearce 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

we have fedora 12 dvd for i386 and 64 bit .. I did not know 13 was available On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server > (Gregory Machin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:37:14 +1300 > From: Gregory Machin <clubbing80s(a)gmail.com> > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server > Message-ID: > <f26eca761003290237l2929f63dld6e45c4d46bf11aa(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > I if anyone has the ISO's for fedora 12 and 13 , and Ubuntu 9.10 and > won't mind copying them onto my usb drive please drop me an email. > > > Thanks > -- > Regards > Gregory Machin > +64211844347 > www.linuxpro.co.nz > www.linuxpro.co.za > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 15 > ************************************* > -- Stephen Pearce Critical Care Whangarei ph 021 390 997

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Require iso's - fedora 12 & 13 , and Ubuntu server
by Gregory Machin 29 Mar '10

29 Mar '10

Hi I if anyone has the ISO's for fedora 12 and 13 , and Ubuntu 9.10 and won't mind copying them onto my usb drive please drop me an email. Thanks -- Regards Gregory Machin +64211844347 www.linuxpro.co.nz www.linuxpro.co.za

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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NZ Computer Society National Series: Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability
by David Hallett 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

NZ Computer Society National Series: Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability 14 April 2010: 12:00pm - 1:45pm Events Room 1, Gallagher Hub City Campus, Gate 5 Tristram Street, Hamilton NZCS are proud to bring you the second of the National ICT Series, this month focusing on the paradigm shift required to develop for a mobile platform such as the iPhone. Developing for the iPhone: Innovation and Usability Many believe that the introduction of the iPhone brought about a fundamental shift in the usability, functional abilities, and expectations of phone and PDA users. However along with this shift came a new challenge: how to develop for this revolutionary platform? Join John Ascroft, Chief Innovation Officer (CIO) of Jade Software Corporation, and Hadley Trounson, a member of Jade's development team as they take you through the iPhone environment and its focus on user-centric design and market driven innovation. The Jade team will also outline the total shift in developmental paradigm encountered, plus their experiences in introducing the new platform and the technical development challenges encountered along the way. This will be a thoroughly enthralling presentation and not one to be missed. Note: Light lunch provided. Free for NZCS members, inexpensive for others. Registration required at the following URL: https://www.nzcs.org.nz/events/waikato_bop/124-National_Series_Developing_f… Regards, David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS ITCP P.O. Box 15-516 Hamilton, New Zealand Phone: +64-7-210 5520 Mobile: +64-21-802 256

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] WLUG meeting is one week away (Meeting Reminder Bot)
by Wayne Grimsey 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi Team. Can some really nice person please give me a lift to the meeting next Monday? I live at 16A Abbotsford Street, Whitiora, Hamilton. If you can, text me on 021 1248 377 or ring/leave a message on 838 2007 or email me at wgrimsey(a)hotmail.com Thanks heaps. Wayne > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 11 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:00:06 +1300 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away (Meeting Reminder Bot) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:27:02 +1300 > From: Meeting Reminder Bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Cc: nzlug-announce <nzlug-announce(a)linux.net.nz>, nzlug > <nzlug(a)linux.net.nz> > Subject: [wlug] ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away > Message-ID: <E1Nqrag-0007bh-Cj(a)db.wlug.org.nz> > > The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. > > March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 11 > ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Singles online now! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/163036679/direct/01/

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BruceKingsbury will review some of the new features and goals of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be released at the end of April. March 22nd 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] The dog ate my bootloader!
by Eric Light 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Thanks for your link, Gregory. Turns out I didn't give enough information in my original post - and after thinking of the right terms, a Google search found the problem. I was affected by bug 477104, fix and cause here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104 in case it will help someone. I was running Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 via Wubi (critical missing info in my original email). Wubi + kernel update = broken grub2 & left at bootloader. In the future, I'll need to follow any major updates by running sudo update-grub2. If this happens to anyone else, I fixed it by running: > set root=(hd0,1) > loopback loop0 /ubuntu/disks/root.disk > set root=(loop0) > linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-generic root=/dev/sda1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-17-generic > boot Once Ubuntu booted successfully, I had to run sudo update-grub2 to prevent the issue from recurring at next boot. Obviously, the versioning will vary; I also had to rollback to the previous version of vmlinuz and initrd. I've seen comments that the first 2 lines aren't necessary, but I needed them on my system. Hope this helps someone out in the future! Cheers, - Eric

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Photo archives
by John 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Hi All, Due to some awful archiving. I have around 1500 digital still images that have been duplicated triplicated or more in a number of folders,C/D's and DVD's on a number of drives. I would like to know if there is a way I can dump ALL the directories into one folder then run a "find dupes" type program that would ensure that I did not delete any of my original photos. Regards John

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CLI help
by Cameron Rangeley 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

Hi Guys Any idea what is wrong with this command?? find /home/path/* -name *.sql -exec mysql -p password -h < {} \; I am needing to import about 250 sql files. Cameron Rangeley Technical Director Phone: +64 9 970 5550 Direct: +64 9 970 5551 Mobile: +64 21 343 757 Email: cameron.rangeley(a)turnstone.co.nz <mailto:cameron.rangeley(a)turnstone.co.nz> Website: www.turnstone.co.nz <http://www.turnstone.co.nz>

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Wiki usage
by Glen Ogilvie 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

Hi, I am one of the members of Aucklug, and noticed the excellent wiki that the Waikato lug runs. Would you guys be open to us sharing the wiki, adding a few more pages that are Aucklug specific, linked from http://wiki.linux.net.nz/AuckLUG I don't see any point re-inventing the wheel, and the wiki already has many great references to things like Linux, NZLUG, etc. I want to put up a page for a start with some venue information on it, and a page for the next presentation where people can add ideas, RSVP, etc. Regards Glen Ogilvie

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday Mar 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://www.wlug.org.nz/TeWhanauPutahi) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc.

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Saturday Workshop - March 6th 10am-4pm
by Bruce Kingsbury 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

Saturday Workshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi, the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. http://wlug.org.nz/SaturdayWorkshop.2010-03-06

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Re: [wlug] C program.....
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 Feb '10

28 Feb '10

I missed the "f" out of if :( ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi All, > Will someone please explain what I need to do to write and > run a C program in the bash terminal.I think I may need to > tell the terminal to run a c compiler. This is the outcome > of a program I copied from a tutorial. > john(a)sniffy:~$ #include <stdio.h> > john(a)sniffy:~$ int main() > bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' > I there is an easy to understand explanation I would like > to hear it please.. > Regards John > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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C program.....
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 Feb '10

28 Feb '10

Hi All, Will someone please explain what I need to do to write and run a C program in the bash terminal.I think I may need to tell the terminal to run a c compiler. This is the outcome of a program I copied from a tutorial. john(a)sniffy:~$ #include <stdio.h> john(a)sniffy:~$ int main() bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' I there is an easy to understand explanation I would like to hear it please.. Regards John

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Brother printer stopped working
by Glenn Ramsey 18 Feb '10

18 Feb '10

Hi, My Brother HL-2140 printer which has been working perfectly has suddenly stopped working. I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 on amd64 which I keep up to date and I guess it was due to a recent update, but I don't use it all that much so I don't know exactly when it got broken. I enabled debug logging in cups and it shows that something is seg faulting. The log is posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8846976 Anyone have any advice about how to fix it? Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is on Monday
by Meeting Reminder Bot 18 Feb '10

18 Feb '10

There's a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting on Monday: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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The dog ate my bootloader!
by Eric Light 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

Hi everyone, Well the subject line says it all... There was an update yesterday that came in for Ubuntu Netbook Remix (9.10). Downloaded, installed, rebooted, and now I just get dumped into Grub. Immediately before the Grub screen comes up, it quickly flashes something that MAY be the words "Try hdd(0,0) NTFS". Then I get the sh:grub> prompt. OK So I don't know anything about Grub or what I'm doing in it. I've typed ls and I get: (loop0), (hd0), and (hd0,1). I tried boot /vmlinuz, and I get "Error: no loaded kernel"; tried linux /vmlinuz, and I get "Error: wrong magic number". Not sure what else I should try. Does anyone have any advice to get my netbook up and running again? I'm back to Windows 7 Starter! (argh, argh, argh) Thanks in advance! Cheers, - Eric

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Ge Force FX 5200
by Chris O'Halloran 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Hello, I am looking to build a MythTV box for a friend using a satellite card to capture/watch/record Freeview. I've already got my own box working. Prior to HD, I understand the Nvidia GeForce FX5200 was considered a good graphics card and is infact what I use (more by luck than design). It has an TV-OUT RCA socket. Would anyone on the list have something like that spare that they would be willing to sell? If you wish to reply, please reply to me off list. Cheers, Chris

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Linux Mint 8 (Helena) 32 bit tested
by Wayne Grimsey 15 Feb '10

15 Feb '10

Hey guys. If anyone's interested, I've installed Linux Mint Helena (32 bit) on my Compaq Presario Notebook. Decided that, since my Gloria was getting a bit buggy in regards to updates and sound, it was time to take the plunge. Helena runs like a dream, drivers and wireless work fine with no fuss. They've improved the general aesthetics. Additionally, you can now do OEM installations. They've also improved the layout of many menu's. You can also choose to ignore certain updates. Be interesting to see what other goodies I discover over the next few weeks. If anyone wants the ISO, just give me a yell, at the next Fix-It day. Wayne. _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com

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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 14 Feb '10

14 Feb '10

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux.conf.au 2010 Over 600 Linux geeks gathered for LinuxConfAu (http://www.lca2010.org.nz/) down in Wellington last month. Four WLUG members were among them, and will be giving short talks/presentations about what was cool and interesting at the conference. Attendees were LizQuilty, JohnBillings, StephenHeywood and RonnieCollinson. 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4)

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Re: [wlug] WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 07 Feb '10

07 Feb '10

I am coming to add some dumb to the group Regards john ----- Original Message Follows ----- > I'll be there with the library, and a freshly burned copy > of gobolinuxI'm wanting to try out.On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at > 1:41 PM, Liz Quilty <liz(a)velofille.com> wrote:>>> On 5 > February 2010 13:17, Ronnie Collinson > <notthinking(a)gmail.com> wrote:>>>> 44km, Liz are you > crazy? Hopefully theres others turning up, would be>> > rather boring if no one else did>>>> Clearly I am crazy. I > Signed upf ro the Oxfam 100km walk this year, its just> > training. DOing it as a part of a team. Incidentally feel > free to sponsor us> - need to make $2500 in donations to > just enter, its for a good cause though> :)>> > http://www.oxfam.org.nz/events/teams.asp?a=show_team_pages&eventid=24&teami…>> > Liz>>>>>> On 2/5/10, James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> > wrote:>> > I'm planning on being there. Â Have a hp/compaq > laptop that's been>> > loaned to me while my desktop is > kaputnik and I've installed Ubuntu>> > 9.10 on it. > Â Working well but I've no clue how to get the wifi > going>> > (or even if it can be got going - it's an HP > lappy after all!) >> >>> > This thing's a BRICK! Â Old > school 1440x1080 native res!>> >>> > J>> >>> > On 5 > February 2010 07:33, Rene Bartosh <kirjava(a)hblug.org.nz> > wrote:>> >> Morning folks,>> >>>> >> Is anyone planning to > attend this meeting? I have just moved to>> >> Hamilton > from the Hawkes Bay and wouldn't mind popping in to meet > a>> >> few WLUG people.>> >>>> >> Cheers,>> >>>> >> Rene>> > >>>> >> On 5 February 2010 06:27, Meeting Reminder bot > <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> wrote:>> >>> A reminder; the WLUG Fixit > Meeting is tomorrow.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > Â -------------------------------------------------------- > -------------->> >>> First Saturday workshop for 2010!!!>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau PÅ«tahi>> > >>> > (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ > ptahi/), the>> >>> community church at the end of Oxford > Street.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> We'll have the usual tables, > power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee,>> >>> BBQ>> >>> > lunch, etc.>> >>>>> >>> If there's something you > specifically want to work on please menti on>> >>> it>> > >>> on the mailing list in advance so we can study up > beforehand or bring>> >>> any>> >>> necessary equipment.>> > >>>>> >>> > _______________________________________________>> >>> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> >>> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -->> >> From Rene Bartosh (Gmail > account) <kirjava(a)gmail.com>>> >> Personal: > http://kirjava.net.nz/>> >> > _______________________________________________>> >> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>>> >>> > >>> >>> > -->> > James Pluck>> > A Cruce Salus>> >>> > Ted > Turner Â - "Sports is like a war without the killing." ->> > > > http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html>> > > _______________________________________________>> > wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>> >>> > _______________________________________________>> wlug mai > ling list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>>> > _______________________________________________> wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>>_______________________________________________wlug > mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nzUnsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First Saturday workshop for 2010!!! SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment.

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Self intro & Hamilton handmade Tux's
by Roger Sinel 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

Hiya, Just to introduce myself, I'm a expat Kiwi from Hamilton. I live and work in Stockholm Sweden with FOSS in a large RHEL environment. I'm also very involved in the FOSS community in Sweden. I'm back in Hamilton on Holiday and will come along to the fix it meeting tomorrow to show my face amongst the WLUG before we fly back next week. I've been luckily enough to get my mother to sew up a few soft toy Tuxes for me. And also a large on that I will use for Software Freedom Day 2010 and for other FOSS gatherings that I'm involved organizing. My mother is interested in sewing these Tuxes for the Linux community if there is any interest for them here. Please let me know if anybody is interested and keep it in mind as situations come up from time to time where tuxes really add that little bit extra to a FOSS event. Check out these pictures I just took of the two finished Tuxes. http://picasaweb.google.com/roger.sinel/KiwiTuxMadeInNewZealand?feat=direct… Looking forward to meeting some of you tomorrow. /roger -- Roger Sinel www.nordickiwi.com "The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." Frank Herbert (1920 - 1986)

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Linux/Tux Keyboard
by Liz Quilty 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

Heya Just letting you know im selling the Tux/Linux Keyboard i was given a few months back (i never used it) to fundraise for Oxfam. If you are interested have a looky at http://velofille.com/2010/02/05/linuxtux-keyboard-for-sale-oxfam-fundraiser/ Liz

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First Saturday workshop for 2010!!! SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc. If there's something you specifically want to work on please mention it on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring any necessary equipment.

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Benq Scanner s2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Before starting the procedure outlined on the WLUG webpages on how to install this scanner, I entered the first instruction into a terminal. The output was: zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ tail -f /var/log/messages Feb 2 14:31:51 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called Feb 2 14:31:51 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [zed] Feb 2 14:43:16 zed-desktop kernel: [201541.333127] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4 Feb 2 14:45:32 zed-desktop kernel: [201678.008023] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 Feb 2 14:45:33 zed-desktop kernel: [201678.222085] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 2 17:39:38 zed-desktop kernel: [212123.386301] scanimage[16779]: segfault at 68 ip 001e4852 sp bfd7afe4 error 4 in libpthread-2.10.1.so[1de000+15000] Feb 2 17:45:35 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: Called Feb 2 17:45:35 zed-desktop sudo: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [zed] Feb 2 17:45:56 zed-desktop kernel: [212501.455456] scanimage[16875]: segfault at 68 ip 00386852 sp bfbeb654 error 4 in libpthread-2.10.1.so[380000+15000] Feb 2 18:02:34 zed-desktop kernel: [213499.605729] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 5 I had just turned the scanner off. I have no idea what this means. Perhaps someone does! Zed -- Zed Clean your monitor, I can't see out

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Benq Scanner S2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Using LinuxMint v8.0 Helena. Some time go I purchased one of these scanners, after I found through http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/scanners-usb.html that they work with Linux, and downloaded and installed sane-backends-1.0.19 and sane-frontends-1.0.14 as suggested. Xsane is installed, also. However, when I clicked on XSane to launch the scanner the following error appeared: Failed to open device 'snapscan:libusb:001:002': Invalid argument. A search for snapscan:libusb:001:002 does not find it but a libusb command in the Terminal shows that it is installed. At that time, and this is over a year ago, I decided not to bother about it and abandoned the idea. However, I recently came back to the problem - after all why have a scanner sitting on the desk if it doesn't work :-). So, I downloaded the HowTo on your website http://www.wlug.org.nz/Benq3300/4300ScannerSetup and carefully followed the directions. Regrettably the scanner still does not work. When I first ran xSane, the window opened. Clicked on Preview and the scanner sprang into action - well, it made noises as if something was going to happen - and then the xSane window closed. Ran xSane again and got the error message: Failed to open device 'snapscan:lisusb:002:00': Error during device I/O Entered the Terminal and did lusb, with the following result zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04a5:20b0 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) S2W 3300U/4300U Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05e3:0702 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Adapter Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03f0:2f17 Hewlett-Packard EWS 2605dn Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub zed(a)zed-desktop ~ $ So, the Device is there but xSane is "throwing a wobbly" :( Opened the GIMP to use your suggestion that clicking on Acquire is the easiest way to get the scanner working but I cannot find Acquire in any of the menus in GIMP v2.6.7 >From time to time the scanner "chatters" to itself - the light comes on and flickers, becomes steady and then goes off. I don't know whether that is significant or not. I have searched Google for the error and although there are numerous entries none seem to apply to my problem. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Zed -- Zed Dogs crawl under Gates, software crawls under Windoze.

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Benq Scanner S2W 4300U...
by Zed 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

Further to my earlier email, and the comments about the GIMP v2.6.7, a little further searching led me to the fact that it was necessary to go to File - Create - xSane - Device dialogue...snapscan:libusb:002:004. Clicking on this returns the I/O error. Zed -- Zed Diplomacy: The Vaseline of political intercourse

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Trouble printing to a Fuji Xerox Workcentre 220
by Eric Light 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Hi everyone, I've got a swanky new Fuji Xerox Workcentre 220. It's connected to my WinXP laptop via USB, which then shares it over Windows File & Print sharing to my network. For all connected Windows machines (x4) it's working fine. However for my EeePC (1005HA) running Ubuntu NBR 9.10, it won't print at all. There are no specific drivers for it. However the printer suggests that it does "PCL6/PostScript 3 Emulation", and I've tried both the Postscript and the PCL6 & PCL5e drivers. All of these choices make the printer warm up, but none of them actually end up in the printer printing anything. I've trawled the Internet, but may have been looking for the wrong thing. Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers, - Eric

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OpenSuSE DVDs
by Graham Lauder 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

I have some OpenSuSE 11.2 DVDs left over from the LCA Open Day if anyone wants one. They're dual layer DVD's and have both 64 and 32 bit versions and they can run both Gnome and KDE live sessions. As per usual for OpenSuSE DVDs it has Desktop, Server and Developer tools all on the DVD and no need for an internet connection to get a full production server or desktop or development environment up and running. (Nvidia Drivers for Compiz excepted) (Enlightment, XFCE and Windowmaker desktop environments also included) Put hand up and I'll bring some up to the next WLUG meeting, or I'll put them in the post if needed urgently! Cheers G -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz

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please remove
by Malcolm & Rosalie Heath 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Please remove Malcolm Heath's email address from your address book as he passed away just before Christmas.

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Re: [wlug] Anyone got blown AM2 motherboards going spare?
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

I have a "AN50R" board 750 socket cpu with heat sink and a TWO screw plastic clamp if you are able to modify you are welcome to it. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > My CPU heatsink clamp (the shield on the motherboard) has > snapped. I'm looking for a blown motherboard that I can > remove the heatsink clamp from to replace it. > > I need the style that is held down by 4 screws through the > board into a rectangular shield on the underside of the > board. > > Can anyone help? > > > > -- > James Pluck > A Cruce Salus > > Pablo Picasso - "Computers are useless. They can only > give you answers." - > http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Anyone got blown AM2 motherboards going spare?
by James Pluck 30 Jan '10

30 Jan '10

My CPU heatsink clamp (the shield on the motherboard) has snapped. I'm looking for a blown motherboard that I can remove the heatsink clamp from to replace it. I need the style that is held down by 4 screws through the board into a rectangular shield on the underside of the board. Can anyone help? -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus Pablo Picasso - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html

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Question-- Android LUG?
by Luke Hutchison 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

Does anyone know if there is a Google Android User Group in NZ? I have been hacking on the Linux kernel and Java events framework for Android (for example, I got multi-touch scaling working on the original G1 Android phone: http://bit.ly/16VDI ). Android is a fun stack to hack on at the operating system level, the Java framework level, and the app level. By the way, sorry for the spam but I have a brand-new extra Google Nexus One cellphone (with 1GHz Snapdragon processor and high-res OLED screen) here in NZ, please reply to me directly off-list if you are interested. Thanks, Luke Hutchison luke.hutch(a)gmail.com

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LCA2010 live streams
by John Billings 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

Some of us are down here at LCA, but you can also watch sessions on the site here: http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule/video Cheers, John

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Backports
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Hello All, I am running Karmic Kooala Kubuntu 9.10 Recently I added the back-ports repository to install the latest version of Digikam and Amajoke, I mean Amarok. Well they both installed and then the update manager told mean about all the latest KDE goodness I could install so I upgraded. Well KDE-plasma now likes to hit 80-90% CPU usuage and is wearing out my cooling fans. Can I go back to a non-backports version of my machine? I still want ultimately to have the latest version of Digikam but revert everthing else, including Amarok to version 1.4 again. Is it a matter of disabling the backport repo and doing 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ? Any thoughts? Chris

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Re: [wlug] Mint Updates
by Wayne Grimsey 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Happy new year John Here's the result of entering "cat /etc/apt/sources.list": (Hi Chris, ... and yes it does fail everytime.) ## LINUX MINT REPOSITORIES ## ----------------------- ## +++ Linux Mint 7 Gloria (stable) +++ deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria main upstream import ## +++ Backports (not as stable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria backport ## +++ Community (not as stable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria community ## +++ Romeo (unstable) +++ # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria romeo ## +++ Source Repositories +++ # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria main upstream import # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria community # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria backport # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ gloria romeo ## ------------------- ## UBUNTU REPOSITORIES ## ------------------- ## +++ Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty (stable) +++ deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted universe multiverse deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted universe multiverse ## +++ Backports & Proposed (not as stable) +++ # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ## +++ Source Repositories +++ # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ## ------------------ ## OTHER REPOSITORIES ## ------------------ ## +++ Canonical (stable) +++ deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ jaunty partner ## +++ Medibuntu (stable) +++ deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ jaunty free non-free deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu/ hardy main deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/amarok14/ubuntu jaunty main Also here's a sample of an error message when attempting to use mintUpdate via the GUI: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.6.dfsg.4~beta… 404 Not Found > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:25:29 +1300 > From: Wayne Grimsey <wgrimsey(a)hotmail.com> > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Linux Mint Updates > Message-ID: <SNT124-W238FD21991A39BA12F307CC66C0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Team . > > Happy new year. > > Whenever I use the GUI screen to complete Mint Updates, I receive 404 messages relating to unable to find servers, links etc. I've managed a workaround by typing apt upgrade each time I need to install the updates. I'm currently using the 64 bit version of Gloria. I've tried refreshing the repositories etc, but there is obviously something else I need to do. > > Any ideas? > > Kind regards > Wayne > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to be a Space Travel Agent? If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639089/direct/01/ >

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Re: [wlug] LCA2010
by Eric Light 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

John - Yep I'll be there as well. Travelling down by car on Saturday after dinner, staying at ski club lodge in National Park, then leaving circa 8am Sunday morning for the newcomer's meet. Looking forward to catching up again! Liz - Definitely keen for a curry at some point too! :-) Cheers, - Eric On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LCA2010 (John Billings) > 2. Re: LCA2010 (Ronnie Collinson) > 3. Re: LCA2010 (Liz Quilty) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:22:06 +1300 > From: John Billings <john(a)nimhq.net> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] LCA2010 > Message-ID: <4B498E2E.5060500(a)nimhq.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hey, > > LCA2010 is almost here, I know Liz, Ronnie, Stephen and myself are > going. Anyone else going? Sometime during the week I thought it might > be nice to have an informal WLUG get together in Welly, and talk about > what we would like to accomplish in the next year. Specifically I'm > aiming this at the committee members, but anyone else is welcome to join > if you happen to be there. > > Best, > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:35:08 +1300 > From: Ronnie Collinson <notthinking(a)gmail.com> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] LCA2010 > Message-ID: > <2d52a3b41001100335m347fc8e4u5e095a4d8a51a756(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Would be good to have a meatup while down there, prehaps at the bar > mentioned on the LCA webpage one evening? >

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Linux Mint Updates
by Wayne Grimsey 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Hi Team . Happy new year. Whenever I use the GUI screen to complete Mint Updates, I receive 404 messages relating to unable to find servers, links etc. I've managed a workaround by typing apt upgrade each time I need to install the updates. I'm currently using the 64 bit version of Gloria. I've tried refreshing the repositories etc, but there is obviously something else I need to do. Any ideas? Kind regards Wayne _________________________________________________________________ Want to be a Space Travel Agent? If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639089/direct/01/

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LCA2010
by John Billings 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

Hey, LCA2010 is almost here, I know Liz, Ronnie, Stephen and myself are going. Anyone else going? Sometime during the week I thought it might be nice to have an informal WLUG get together in Welly, and talk about what we would like to accomplish in the next year. Specifically I'm aiming this at the committee members, but anyone else is welcome to join if you happen to be there. Best, John

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Rsync and Samba
by Cameron Rangeley 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

Hi Guys I am running two RHEL boxes, each day I am rsyncing some data from my primary server to my secondary server. I am rsyncing the entire /home partition. On my primary server there are about 8 samba shares for data that the clients can access all the samba shares point to various sub-directories within /home. My issue is that on my secondary server I cant connect to the shares from a windows workstation. My smb.conf file is exactly the same as my primary server and to test I have created a test mount in /mnt/test and I can connect to that fine. It appears that the issue is all around the fact that these directories that have been created with rsync. My rsync command is: rsync -arzgopulv --delete /home root(a)192.168.9.2:/ My smbd.log file says: '/home/folder/folder/folder does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [akemail] Error was Permission denied. I can see the folder in samba I have forced the user as root and I have chmodded the folder to 777. Access from the console to these files and folders works fine. Has anyone got any other ideas that I can try? Thanks Cameron

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Multi function scanner permissions
by Ron Dean 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

I have a Brother MFC-260c multifunction printer scanner fax It prints OK but the scanner only operates under root What steps do I take to alter the permissions on the scanner and how do I find out the correct path when I change permissions it is connected through usb -- Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Python syntax
by Chris O'Halloran 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hello all, Here is a bit of code that I am getting my head around. It's out of a book that I am using to teach myself matplotlib, a python library for making graphs etc. The following code is using an object-orientated approach in preparation for embedding the graph within an GUI application. <code> #!/usr/bin/env python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import matplotlib.pyplot as plt import numpy as np x = np.arange(0, 10, 0.1) y = np.random.randn(len(x)) fig = plt.figure() ax = fig.add_subplot(111) l, = plt.plot(x, y) t = ax.set_title('random numbers') plt.show() </code> The line l, = plt.plot(x, y) has got me slighty confused because l = plt.plot(x, y) also works, without the trailing comma after the l I was wondering if any Python coders might comment to the comma's significance. I've scanned my four books on Python and can't find any reference. Cheers, Chris

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Knoppix
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Hello all, Here is a question from another forum that no one seems to be able to answer. Does any of our know what can be done as I have had similar issues with knoppix of late. Tried no acpi with difference.. Regards John Hi, I've had a copy of Knoppix for years. I think it is version 3, anyway it is several years old and works well. I thought i'd update it and so downloaded 6.2 CD. When it booted up it goes to a text interface.I looked through the options and it had a graphical version of firefox listed so I tried that and it started loading but then the monitor went into standby. So I then downloaded the DVD. It started booting, started loading the interface and the same happened. The monitor went into standby. It loads the first screen with the linux logo in the top left and starts loading things like Hal and Sound with a green loading bar. Then it had a couple of lines of text (root(a)....) Then it goes to a black sreen with the cursor in the top left and after a couple of seconds the monitor turns off. The disk is still loading. I've had a surf and tried a few cheatcodes (screen=800x600, vga=0, vsync=60 etc) but i'm not really sure what i'm doing. Is it a known issue and does anyone know how to fix it? __________________ Cheers, Degs

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Openmoko Freerunner A6 for sale
by Matt Brown 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

Hi, Is anyone interested in buying one of the Openmoko open source phones to play with? I know they've been hard/expensive to get in NZ, so this may be your chance... I'm selling my Freerunner. I purchased it from Pulster over a year ago and used it for several months before I received an Android phone and sadly my Freerunner has been sitting gathering dust since then. I'd rather someone who had the time was using it for something useful, so I'm putting it on the market. It's in excellent condition: GTA02 A6 - Serial 8A8810247 - Original box - Charger with foreign adaptors - 512MB microSD card and SD card adapter No USB cable (missing in shipment from Pulster) No Stylus/Laser pen (lost) I purchased the phone for around 400 euro a year ago, and have barely used it. I'll consider any reasonable NZD offer for it. I'm in Hamilton until the end of the year and can deliver to the local area or arrange for you to pick up the phone. Replies by private mail please. -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +353 86 608 7117 www.mattb.net.nz

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HP laptop power socket needed
by Bryce Utting 05 Dec '09

05 Dec '09

Hi all, Finally got around to poking around in my dead nx5000. just a wild guess here, but I kinda suspect that if a plug has 18+V on it yet the socket only meters at 0.56V across its terminals when the plug's in it, then there's possibly a -slight- chance the socket needs replacing... (especially since I noticed arcs from the socket shortly before it stopped booting) Anyone have any useful parts? should be able to get a photo up once I've charged some batteries. would prefer not to drop a DSE part in, since while the plug's a standard 2.5mm-ish one, the socket's got two ground lugs to each side, and are probably needed for structural reasons. (yep, will stop by Jaycar. would like to close it all back up reasonably soonish though so I can get my table back!) ta, butting

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Digital Cameras and Linux
by Chris O'Halloran 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Hello all, I know there are some photography enthusiasts on this list. I am considering purchasing a digital SLR camera. I bought a film based SLR camera about 6 years ago but it would seem it is time to move on. The previous camera was a Nikon F55 and I had purchased a few filters and a 300mm telephoto lens. Even though it was an entry level camera, I was generally happy with the quality of the images. In previous reading on this topic, I understand the opinion varies amongst manufacturers on the various file formats and how well they allow the RAW file formats to be extracted from the camera. The two brands I am mostly considering at this stage are Nikon and Canon. Would anyone care to comment if a Linux user is likely to have a preference for either and/or if there is another brand that is very Linux friendly? I like the idea of a camera that uses SD cards and possibly conventional batteries but that requirement isn't hard n fast. Additionally if there is some way to use my legacy 300m telephoto lens, that would also be cool but I'm resigned to it being incompatible. Thanks for any thoughts offered, just thought I'd ask. Cheers, Chris

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performance difference between a swap partition vs a swap file >>>>>
by Narender 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

I have done a lot of research, but I do not have any real world experience so I'm hoping you can help me understand the real world differences in performance. The research tells me that if you create a swap file on an empty disk and on a OS using kernel 2.6 then the performance differences are minor, but that the swap partition is a slight favorite in terms of pure performance. Our Scenario: Raid 1 146GB partition 33GB Swap File created on / (Note: the swap file was created when the OS was built, so the hard drives were not full and they were very empty) Kernel 2.6 Best Regards N

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Newbee near the university with vanishing XP cursor needs help
by Robert D Davidson 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Hi Wlug, A computer newbee with XP who lives in Hillcrest and runs a property development business needs computer help. From an initial consultation with him, at my local cafe in Morrinsville, he seems like a canditate of a simple port to Lynix on his existing hardware. He is prepared to format his hardrive to solve his problems. Anyone interested please contact me for his details. I haven't discussed costs with him but I guess this would be a paying job at his expense as he wants a speedy response. Cheers Robert

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of year BBQ and saturday workshop SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since this is the last workshop of the year we're also going to make this the end of year BBQ We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc.

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WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by Bruce Kingsbury 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Sorry for the short notice, but I didn't realise I hadn't put this on the Wiki already; The WLUG annual BBQ and get together will be on Saturday at Te Whanau Putahi (at the end of Oxford St), along with the regular Saturday Workshop. workshop is 10am-4pm, BBQ will be somewhere around 12-1pm. This will be the last meeting for the year, and a good time to renew your membership for next year! Hope to see you there.. Bruce

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AJAX and jQuery help please?
by James Pluck 27 Nov '09

27 Nov '09

Hi all! Is there anyone out there who is adept with jQuery, javascript and AJAX? I have an ajax call in the application that I am working on that is the root of a Heisenbug that is causing me some grief! I have pruned the call to the collowing code: <code> function addPublication ( pubID, pubName, pubCategories ){ alert ( "in addPublication" ); var xhr = $.ajax ({ url: "/publisher/ajax/addpub.php", type: "POST", data: ({ id: pubID, name: pubName, "categories[]": pubCategories }), success: function(){ alert ( "We're Back from addpublication" ); } }); alert ( "*" + xhr.responseText + "*" ); }; </code> The post that is generated from this is correct and if I manually send that post data to the php script I get the expected results (at the moment all the script does is generate an empty page with a "print_r" of the post data. However, the ajax call randomly returns correctly or returns with "error - undefined error." Firebug is distressingly unhelpful in that all it does is show the url in red in the console and no errors or anything! I have found on occasion that erasing the url and retyping it exactly will cause the bug to disappear but any editting of the js file after that will cause the bug to return. The ironic thing is that when I have the full function of the php script activated it actually does the task that it is supposed to do correctly - except that I have to refresh the page to see the result instead of the ajax refreshing the page properly. Argh! can anyone shed some light? -- James Pluck A Cruce Salus Charles de Gaulle - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 26 Nov '09

26 Nov '09

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of year BBQ and saturday workshop SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. Since this is the last workshop of the year we're also going to make this the end of year BBQ We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee, BBQ lunch, etc.

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Re: [wlug] WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 25 Nov '09

25 Nov '09

I will do some head poking also. Regards John > > Speaking of turnout, who's coming? > I will poke my head in - but I'm helping a friend move > house so I don't know when. I won't be there for the BBQ > but I'll be there at some point :) > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] WLUG End of year BBQ / Get together Saturday 28th Nov
by Sam Lin 24 Nov '09

24 Nov '09

Ouch... I'll be away for attending a conference in Wellington for the rest of this week. Leave some meat for me~~

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 22 Nov '09

22 Nov '09

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7:30pm MS4.G.02 (http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map?MS4) 2009 AGM Agenda Approval of 2008 AGM minutes President's Report Treasurer's Report Election of Officers (Don't forget to do CommitteeHandover this year) General Business

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WLUG meeting jan/feb
by Roger Sinel 22 Nov '09

22 Nov '09

Hi, I'm an expat living in Stockholm Sweden. Coming back home to Hamilton for a month and are interested in coming alone to a meeting if your having one between 10jan-10feb 2010. Anything else happening around regarding FOSS in NZ during this time? /Roger Sinel http://www.nordickiwi.com --

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[OT] kiwicon - ride
by Brad Cowie 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

Hello list, Is anyone off to kiwicon this year and has room for another person in their car? Need a lift from Hamilton this year. Email me offlist. Thanks.

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