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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 208, Issue 15
by Ronnie Collinson 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

>I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >because Linux seems so attractive. >Glenn. I thin you will find that once you start using linux, that you will pick up the basics quicker then you think, but unfortunately without net access its a major pain, unfortunately more and more pcs are coming without serial ports any more (I bought a USB > Serial adapter of trademe the other day for $10 inc postage). Fortunately ethernet is plug and play, and wireless is getting pretty good. I doubt "win-modem support will ever get better as fewer and fewer people are using it. On 10/30/08, wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: slamr architecture error (GJB) > 2. Re: slamr architecture error (Glenn Stuart Morrissey) > 3. Re: slamr architecture error (Roger Searle) > 4. Re: slamr architecture error (Daniel Lawson) > 5. Re: slamr architecture error (Bruce Kingsbury) > 6. Re: slamr architecture error (Chris O'Halloran) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:46:14 -0700 > From: "GJB" <balle(a)auspira.com> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <20081029024614.82ec331de94f1c4494241ee0c8bc5dda.51721241e1.wbe(a)email.secu…> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > I think slamr is a dodgy package ... I've gotten the same errors on > Tosh. A-106 laptop running Xubuntu. It's got its knickers in a twist > trying to work with some level stuff Windows uses for the software > modem. > > Thank the lord I don't need to use my modem very much anymore, I can't > believe such a simple device evades a software fix ... but hey, you get > what you pay for! > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [wlug] slamr architecture error >> From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> >> Date: Wed, October 29, 2008 10:10 pm >> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >> >> >> After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied >> down the output of the setup.sh. >> >> >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup >> installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic >> driver=slamr >> >> Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading >> *dpkg: error processing >> sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): >> package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb >> >> Copying over newer files >> Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra >> Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra >> Checking driver install >> slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko >> Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ >> Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 >> ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found >> Finished installs. >> Informing the System >> >> Starting function tests, loading drivers: >> FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem >> (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid >> module format >> FATAL: Error inserting slamr >> (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format >> Running diagnostic: >> >> >> ports should be created by: >> slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 >> ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found >> Checking for success >> Port creation with slmodemd failed. >> Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . >> >> glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ >> >> Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to >> compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the >> modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for >> 32 bit systems. >> >> Glenn.<hr>_______________________________________________ >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:44 +1300 > From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4908344C.1060102(a)kol.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices > like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up > and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it > is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced > computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame > because Linux seems so attractive. > > Glenn. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:11:34 +1300 > From: Roger Searle <woja(a)paradise.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <49089946.6000006(a)paradise.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Glenn I think you're right to a certain extent and I have been where you > are. It is a steep learning curve but you don't need to move up it > particularly quickly. Part of the difficulty you have is that you > need/want to get a modem going as this can prove to be difficult - or > impossible - even for the gurus depending on the specific hardware. > Being on DSL or cable certainly makes things simpler, it will probably > "just work". I spent some years continually frustrated by one thing or > another, feeling incredibly stupid at times since so many little things > would baffle me, and I have a background of some years successfully > doing nearly any windows-based setup and networking I desired. However > when I look back at my early windows days, there was pain there too! > > I hung in there despite the setbacks, asked questions on linux lists, > googled, and didn't give up. Distros improved but so did my > understanding of linux administration. My path has taken me through > various distros as I've learnt, and my experience these days is that > nearly everything works out of the box (I'm generally talking kubuntu). > However there will be something that does/will not and I live with that > and look to the next release. Where something different will cause me > grief. But I hang in there, I'm looking forward to Intrepid Ibex's > release tomorrow or the next day and will give it a spin, perhaps this > will be the one where everything "just works" . . . > > Regards > Roger > > > Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. >> >> Glenn. >> _______________________________________________ >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:13:41 +1300 > From: Daniel Lawson <daniel(a)meta.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4908A7D5.9050700(a)meta.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. > > There's a large element of luck in it too, if you aren't already > familiar with linux. By that I mean that if you aren't planning on > buying hardware that is specifically compatible with linux, it's all > down to luck as to how well things will work or not :P > > Your problem in particular is made harder for me (and most others with > plenty of experience) to diagnose because, for the most part, we stopped > using dialup a long time ago. Linux support for the so-called winmodems > is far better than it used to be (they never used to work, and now, in > general, they do). > > I can probably dig up a *real* external serial modem for you to borrow > (or buy, if you like). No drivers needed. I see you're from New > Plymouth, so suggesting you come to the Saturday workshop probably > doesn't help a lot. > > Just a question though - you're managing to download files (and send > email)somehow, what computer and connection are you using for that? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:54:04 +1300 > From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: > <54e2f3c80810291154i1d3be6c2t6f88515843bcaa21(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > 2008/10/29 Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > >> I don't think linux has the advantage when It comes to complete novices >> like me. I think Windows, with all its faults, still is easier to set up >> and run out of the box than Linux. I think it has a way to go before it >> is serious competition with windows for anyone other than advanced >> computer users. The learning curve is very steep. Its such a shame >> because Linux seems so attractive. >> > > Windows has the advantage of being a monopoly, manufacturers have to write > Windows drivers or nobody will buy their hardware. Linux is starting to get > much better support in this area and you'll find where manufacturers have > fully embraced the 'open source' way of doing things, getting the hardware > to work requires nothing more than plugging it in. But unfortunately some > hardware still has little or no support in Linux. > > Two suggestions; > > External serial modems are cheap, about $15-$20 on Trademe. And people > keep giving me free ones which I give away so I can avoid solving problems > like this. Let me know if you'd like one. Serial modems 'just work' in any > mainstream Linux distro. > > If you're going to be compiling drivers or trying to run windows drivers > in some form of emulation wrapper, you'll find things are much more likely > to work in 32-bit linux. Getting winmodems to work is always difficult, > getting driver wrapper-glue and 32-bit binary blobs to build in 64-bit Linux > is much more difficult. >

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Re: [wlug] slamr architecture error
by GJB 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

I think slamr is a dodgy package ... I've gotten the same errors on Tosh. A-106 laptop running Xubuntu. It's got its knickers in a twist trying to work with some level stuff Windows uses for the software modem. Thank the lord I don't need to use my modem very much anymore, I can't believe such a simple device evades a software fix ... but hey, you get what you pay for! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] slamr architecture error > From: Glenn Stuart Morrissey <gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz> > Date: Wed, October 29, 2008 10:10 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied > down the output of the setup.sh. > > > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup > installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic > driver=slamr > > Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading > *dpkg: error processing > sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): > package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* > Errors were encountered while processing: > sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb > > Copying over newer files > Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra > Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra > Checking driver install > slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko > Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ > Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 > ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found > Finished installs. > Informing the System > > Starting function tests, loading drivers: > FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid > module format > FATAL: Error inserting slamr > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format > Running diagnostic: > > > ports should be created by: > slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 > ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found > Checking for success > Port creation with slmodemd failed. > Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . > > glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ > > Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to > compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the > modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for > 32 bit systems. > > Glenn.<hr>_______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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slamr architecture error
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

After downloading and unzipping slamr 2.6.24-19, I ran setup and copied down the output of the setup.sh. glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop$ cd slamr-2.6.24-19-generic glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo ./setup installing drivers for kernel version 2.6.24-19-generic driver=slamr Installing the Debian packages supporting autoloading *dpkg: error processing sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)* Errors were encountered while processing: sl-modem-daemon_2.9.10+2.9.9d+e-pre2-5ubuntu4_i386.deb Copying over newer files Making folder /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra Copying drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra Checking driver install slamr.ko slusb.ko ungrab-winmodem.ko Copying newer slmodemd to /usr/sbin/ Checking slmodemd version. Should be 2.9.11 ./setup: 51: slmodemd: not found Finished installs. Informing the System Starting function tests, loading drivers: FATAL: Error inserting ungrab_winmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/ungrab-winmodem.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/extra/slamr.ko): Invalid module format Running diagnostic: ports should be created by: slmodemd -c USA /dev/slamr0 ./setup: 70: /usr/sbin/slmodemd: not found Checking for success Port creation with slmodemd failed. Read the Slamr.txt record, other *.txt files and the sample wvdial.conf . glenn(a)glenn1:~/Desktop/slamr-2.6.24-19-generic$ Looks like im going to have to wait for someone with a AMD64 system to compile slamr, so it can run on my hardware. I don't think changing the modem will achieve anything since the modem driver itself is written for 32 bit systems. Glenn.

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Codeweavers giving away CrossOver
by Ian McDonald 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

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sudo apt-get install ls-modem-daemon sl-modem-source
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Hi Daniel I followed your instructions as per your email: glenn(a)glenn1:~$ sudo apt-get install ls-modem-daemon sl-modem-source [sudo] password for glenn: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package ls-modem-daemon glenn(a)glenn1:~$ When I went to read the readme file: glenn(a)glenn1:~$ cd /usr/share/doc glenn(a)glenn1:/usr/share/doc$ gedit sl-modem-source/README.Debian glenn(a)glenn1:/usr/share/doc$ I just had an empty screen. I ls'd the /usr/share/doc directory and I couldn't find any listing for sl-modem. Am I right to assume that this is not installed, and if so, how can I install the package from my install cd? Glenn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Stuart Morrissey 55 Poplar Grove Whalers Gate New Plymouth, 4310. New Zealand. 06 751 1293 021 022 402 01 gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz

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typo
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

i just realised i had a typo in the command (sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon sl-modem-source) but still got the same result Glenn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Stuart Morrissey 55 Poplar Grove Whalers Gate New Plymouth, 4310. New Zealand. 06 751 1293 021 022 402 01 gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz

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lspci output
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Daniel Here is the output you requested glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lspci -nn -v -s 03:00.0 03:00.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Conexant Unknown device [14f1:8852] (rev 02) Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Unknown device [0070:71d1] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fe600000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] Capabilities: <access denied> glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lspci -nn -v -s 06:06.0 06:06.0 Modem [0703]: Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem [1057:3052] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) Subsystem: Motorola Unknown device [1057:3020] Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21 Memory at febff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Capabilities: <access denied> glenn(a)glenn1:~$

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finding the modem
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Daniel, Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)glenn1:~$lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [IDE mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI2 Controller 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobilitiy Radeon HD 3450 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] 03:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Unknown device 8852 (rev 02) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) 05:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): JMicron Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 2380 06:06.0 Modem: Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem (rev 04) glenn(a)glenn1:~$ lsusb Bus 007 Device 003: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:0618 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 glenn(a)glenn1:~$

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SpeedCom HP156M3
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 25 Oct '08

25 Oct '08

Hi All I got it wrong, just did some reading at Wikipedia and I have got a PCI modem and not a serial modem..apologies. I have a SpeedCom HP156M3 Internal PCI 2 Wire ISDN Modem. I did a google search but couldnt find any drivers for Linux. Does anyone know where I might find some, or is the modem just a winmodem and thats all? Glenn Morrissey.

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Re: [wlug] Is anyone able to help me configure a USB modem in Ubuntu
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

hey all thanks for all the great information. I had a serial modem that came installed in the machine when I bought it a couple of months ago. Its a brand new computer and I couldnt get scanmodem to detect it, thats why I tried to install a USB modem instead. I can supply output of the scanmodem program if required. Thanks all Glenn.

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