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Getting broadband to work with a friends computer and my wired network in Ubuntu *.04
by Ron Dean 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Relevant output from dmesg 32.983930] 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28 [ 32.984043] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:05.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 32.984614] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:30:bd:b8:85:44, IRQ 16 [ 32.984618] eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' [ 32.991975] 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004) 57.927380] eth0: link down 143.296908] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:bd:b8:85:44 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:16 Base address:0xa000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3498 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) TX bytes:175148 (171.0 KB) Don't know if this information is any help it wasn't connected at the time if anyone is able to suggest commands to see if he has the appropriate hardware. Ron Dean 2 Shannon Place Nawton Hamilton Ph 8493904

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Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations
by GJB 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Linksys (CISCO) has a long history of conflicted emotions over OSS. Sveasoft and OpenWRT and others have provided work around firmwares for Linksys products. Interesting FSF should be doing it now after such a long period of abuse, I wonder why? > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit > Against Cisco For GPL Violations > From: "Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> > Date: Fri, December 12, 2008 11:12 am > To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > We'll see what Cisco comes up with but I think all the embedded router > people have an issue that work in the home market e.g. DLink, Linksys (which > is what this is about), etc. I know that I had to battle DLink to get code > out of them and until I threatened them with the GPL they wouldn't give it > to me. The thing is that the embedded market stands to gain a lot and they > should use it, rather than ignore it e.g. Nokia is going places with the > Maemo platform at present as they involve people, and Android is showing > potential also. > > I think Linksys will release code quickly. The far bigger vendor which has > got far more to lose on a case like this is VMWare - it seems almost certain > that they are running a Linux kernel and have modified it, but claim they > use modules in a way that doesn't break the GPL... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> wrote: > > > Oh dear. Any [CiscoNut]s want to comment on this? Linz? > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Brett Smith <brett(a)fsf.org> > > Date: 2008/12/12 > > Subject: [FSF] Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For > > GPL Violations > > To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org > > > > > > ## Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations > > > > BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, December 11, 2008 -- The Free > > Software Foundation (FSF) today announced that it has filed a > > copyright infringement lawsuit against Cisco. The FSF's complaint > > alleges that in the course of distributing various products under the > > Linksys brand Cisco has violated the licenses of many programs on > > which the FSF holds copyright, including GCC, binutils, and the GNU C > > Library. In doing so, Cisco has denied its users their right to share > > and modify the software. > > > > Most of these programs are licensed under the GNU General Public > > License (GPL), and the rest are under the GNU Lesser General Public > > License (LGPL). Both these licenses encourage everyone, including > > companies like Cisco, to modify the software as they see fit and then > > share it with others, under certain conditions. One of those > > conditions says that anyone who redistributes the software must also > > provide their recipients with the source code to that program. The > > FSF has documented many instances where Cisco has distributed licensed > > software but failed to provide its customers with the corresponding > > source code. > > > > "Our licenses are designed to ensure that everyone who uses the > > software can change it," said Richard Stallman, president and founder > > of the FSF. "In order to exercise that right, people need the source > > code, and that's why our licenses require distributors to provide it. > > We are enforcing our licenses to protect the rights that everyone > > should have with all software: to use it, share it, and modify it as > > they see fit." > > > > "We began working with Cisco in 2003 to help them establish a process > > for complying with our software licenses, and the initial changes were > > very promising," explained Brett Smith, licensing compliance engineer > > at the FSF. "Unfortunately, they never put in the effort that was > > necessary to finish the process, and now five years later we have > > still not seen a plan for compliance. As a result, we believe that > > legal action is the best way to restore the rights we grant to all > > users of our software." > > > > "Free software developers entrust their copyrights to the FSF so we > > can make sure that their work is always redistributed in ways that > > respect user freedom," said Peter Brown, executive director of the > > FSF. "In the fifteen years we've spent enforcing our licenses, we've > > never gone to court before. We have always managed to get the > > companies we have worked with to take their obligations seriously. But > > at the end of the day, we're also willing to take the legal action > > necessary to ensure users have the rights that our licenses > > guarantee." > > > > The complaint was filed this morning in United States District Court > > for the Southern District of New York by the Software Freedom Law > > Center, which is providing representation to the FSF in this case. > > The case is number 08-CV-10764 and will be heard by Judge Paul > > G. Gardephe. A copy of the complaint is available at > > <http://www.fsf.org/licensing/complaint-2008-12-11.pdf>. > > > > ### About the FSF > > > > The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to > > promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and > > redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and > > use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating > > system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free > > software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and > > political issues of freedom in the use of software, and its Web sites, > > located at fsf.org and gnu.org, are an important source of information > > about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at > > <http://donate.fsf.org>. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. > > > > ### About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) > > > > The GNU General Public License (GPL) is a license for software. When > > a program is released under its terms, every user will have the > > freedom to share and change it, no matter how they get it. The GPL is > > the most popular free software license in the world, used by almost > > three quarters of all free software packages. The FSF recently > > updated the license to address new concerns in the free software > > community; version 3 of the GPL (GPLv3) was released on June 29, 2007. > > > > ### About the GNU Operating System and Linux > > > > Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a > > free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only > > operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' > > freedom. See <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html>. > > > > In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for > > one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under > > the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux > > formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for > > the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination > > is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see > > <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html>. > > > > ### Media Contacts > > > > Brett Smith > > Licensing Compliance Engineer > > Free Software Foundation > > +1 (617) 542 5942 x18 > > <brett(a)fsf.org> > > > > ### > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > info-fsf mailing list info-fsf(a)gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf > > > > > > > > -- > > This email is for the intended recipient only. 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REMINDER: WLUG meeting tonight!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

There's a WLUG meeting tonight: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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WLUG Fixit Meeting is today!
by Meeting Reminder bot 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

A reminder, the WLUG Fixit Meeting is today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/hamilton/fairfield/-te+whanau+ptahi/) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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REMINDER: WLUG meeting is tomorrow!
by Meeting Reminder Bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

There is a Waikato Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This years WLUG Xmas BBQ Held in Cambridge at LizQuilty and http://www.wlug.org.nz/PaulQuilty's house. 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge 4pm until everyone has gone home. Food provided. If its sunny and you have children, bring togs. The road is so new that it isn't on the Wises map yet! http://www.wises.co.nz/l/cambridge/+tulip+drive/ http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/

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WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow
by Meeting Reminder bot 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday December 6th, 10:00 am to 4:00 pm Last SaturdayWorkshop for 2008 at Te Whanau Pūtahi (http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/hamilton/enderley/-te+whanau+ptahi/?place/full_map) the community church at the end of Oxford Street. We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee and light lunch, etc. WLUG BBQ (http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2008-12-06) afterwards at Paul and Liz's place, 4 Tulip Drive, Cambridge. (http://zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/waipa/cambridge/tulip+drive/4/)

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