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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu 8.10 failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi All My last action was to install 8.04 on the machine and it went in without error and seems to run well. Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did > report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was > corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? > John

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Re: [wlug] Thank you
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

I am on the bludge for a pci video card and an agp video card. They do not have to be very upmarket I just want to get away from the shared memory on two of my old computers that I will ultimately be giving away Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > on that note, i have alot of old kit (i dont know if this > is the right place to say so, if not someone tell me > where) sort of pentium 1ish some newer some older, more > keyboards then you can shake a stick at (over every > flavour, mostly ps2) and a hord of jsut other general junk > , i am happy to give it away to anyone who wants it, > either as a whole big pile, or piece meal if there is > something specific you are hunting for, all tallied up > there is easy a big van full.. (i mean hord) so, if anyone > out there is keen, let me know, also if you contact me i > can give you a better idea what is there > > Cheers > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Darryn Brooking > <gible(a)gible.net> wrote: > > > EDay = BAD. > > This is the 3rd? time since that I could have passed on > something I tossed. > > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Lawson > <daniel(a)meta.net.nz>wrote: > > >> Glenn Stuart Morrissey wrote: > >> > Hey Daniel > >> > > >> > Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had > my old win 98 >> > machine that I do my maths work on and > it had a modem, so i thought id >> > give it a bash with > your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a >> > > website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns > out that I had >> > to install netBEUI and install ICS > from the win 98 add new programs >> > menu, but once that > was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had >> > > good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in > my Vista >> > machines network card settings, but once i > had, it connected too. >> > So thank you for all your help > , and to the other members of WLUG who >> > helped me out. > >> > > >> > >> That's ok. > >> > >> As a suggestion for a future project, you could install > linux on an >> older computer (probably best to not > install X, and you might take it as >> a chance to try a > different distribution), and set it up as a router and >> > firewall. Some of the "magic" has gone from this these > days, as there >> are plenty of distributions that are > oriented towards doing this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my > old Dell 133 >> > Laptop, or a serial network connection > if there is such a thing >> > >> $20 on trademe will get you a pcmcia 10/100 ethernet > card. Be careful of >> what you get, a lot of them need a > small custom cable (commonly called a >> dongle) that > connects to the card and provides a physical RJ45 port, > and >> these can either be missing completely, or damaged > - so get a card that >> has a built-in rj45 port > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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Junkj
by gmorrissey＠kol.co.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Andrew, Let us know if your going to chuck anything out. Im a real steptoe. Glenn.

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Thank you
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hey Daniel Thanks for the great advise on ic/ppp settings. I had my old win 98 machine that I do my maths work on and it had a modem, so i thought id give it a bash with your instructions in your emails. I had to consult a website http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics98, turns out that I had to install netBEUI and install ICS from the win 98 add new programs menu, but once that was done, my linux acer and my linux dell both had good connections. I had to remove the static IP address in my Vista machines network card settings, but once i had, it connected too. So thank you for all your help, and to the other members of WLUG who helped me out. Now I have to find an old PCMCIA network card for my old Dell 133 Laptop, or a serial network connection if there is such a thing Cheers all Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled?
by GJB 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

It could be something to do with setting the software repositories correctly before starting these managers up. I think there should be something called "Sources" or similar on the system menu. It may need these set right before first starting. Maybe just starting is sufficient to get some basic settings and repositories but needs to be restarted before they become effective. Just a theory. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [wlug] Administrative tasks crippled? > From: Chakat Sandwalker <sandwalker(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sun, November 09, 2008 8:32 pm > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > I've been using 8.10 since the second beta came out (I'd bought a new > laptop, and I didn't want to wait two weeks for the final version to be > released before I could install it), and it seems to be having some odd > issues. > > The first one is that Synaptic and related programs, such as the Update > Manager, stop responding when being started for the first time -- > Synaptic will load, but then stop responding before it can load the list > of packages. I have to force it to quit (either by clicking its Close > button, or killing the process). Starting Synaptic again will then > proceed normally. When the Update Manager is used, and 'Install' is > clicked, the download progress dialog is displayed, but is blank and > appears to have stopped responding. Again, clicking its Close button or > killing the process and trying again works. This hasn't happened on the > other computer I installed 8.10 on -- in fact, the other computer > started with Alpha 4. It's just my laptop having issues. > > The second oddity I have is that the first time I click on the Bookmarks > menu in Firefox on my laptop, it always brings up the 'save bookmark' > dialog. It's getting to be quite a nuisance. > > When headphones are plugged into the headphone jack, the main speakers > aren't muted -- both them and the headphones play sound. I'm not sure > if this is a quirk of my hardware or not. Perhaps I'll come to the next > workshop to have it looked at. > > And now my wireless isn't working -- it was when I installed 8.10 (after > I blacklisted the ath_pci driver to force it to use the ath5k driver), > but now it won't even show up as an interface. > > If anyone has any clues about these, I'd appreciate some help, otherwise > I'll wait for the next workshop. > > Sandy > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi All, Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a number of different c/d's First a rc then two final desktops including trying the live versions also an alternate install. They all have a common problem, booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or plain light brown blank screen The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this is particularly true of the alternate, the last few files take a long time to config/install. I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have installed puppy linux in two or three times without a problem. Knoppix live works just fine Any help would be appreciated. Regards John

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Re: [wlug] pppoe
by Glenn Stuart Morrissey 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Daniel Here is the output that you requested: glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo ./ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1c:25:e5:71:ee inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21c:25ff:fee5:71ee/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:498 (498.0 B) TX bytes:4301 (4.2 KB) Interrupt:17 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1476 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) TX bytes:74240 (72.5 KB) glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ sudo route -n [sudo] password for glenn: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 219.88.251.16 connect: Network is unreachable glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.2 PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=7.31 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.412 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.384 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.746 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.369 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.397 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.598 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.354 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.402 ms --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.354/1.137/7.310/2.061 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.3 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6.25 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.306 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.272 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.260 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.258 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.302 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.262 ms --- 192.168.0.3 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.258/0.873/6.250/1.792 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ ping 192.168.0.4 PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=6.26 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.383 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.366 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.374 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.385 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.400 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.375 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.372 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.393 ms --- 192.168.0.4 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.366/0.967/6.262/1.765 ms glenn(a)acer:/sbin$ Here is the output from ipconfig on my Windows Vista Laptop....... Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001] Copyright <c> 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Glenn\ipconfig Windows IP Configuration PPP adaptor Kiwi Online Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.150.120.140 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Wireless LAN adaptor Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Ethernet adaptor Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . . . : fe80::2143:794a:d1cb:f50d%8 IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 9: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 10: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 11: ntyMedia State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 12: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Tunnel adaptor Local Area Connection* 13: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv4 Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:ca96:788c:ca96:788c Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c58:6301 C:\Users\Glenn> Thanks for the help. How do I go about installing Samba on my Ubuntu machine? (what commands do I need to type in?) Glenn.

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hmmn! Linux mint installed without error though it did report the partition made by the Ubuntu install was corrupt. I wonder if this is a random bug??? John

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi Again I managed to get Ibex to install and run on an old amd duron with no real problems so maybe this latest Ubuntu IS a bit of a lottery with older machines. I will try to install Linux mint on the other machine just to see what happens... John -

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Re: [wlug] Ubuntu failing to install/work
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

sadly the bios memory setting is maxed out on my machine so am unable to alter memory allocation. John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > The only thing I can think of is that there isn't enough > video memory, or the video card is too old; I had similar > problems when trying to install an earlier version of > Ubuntu on a machine with a 32MB Riva TNT card -- it would > get as far as starting to load the GDM, then crash to > black/brown. > > Sandy > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 386 with a > > number of different c/d's First a rc then two final > > desktops including trying the live versions also an > > alternate install. They all have a common problem, > > booting to the welcome/login then crashing to a black or > > plain light brown blank screen > > The install appears to slow down as it progresses, this > > is particularly true of the alternate, the last few > > files take a long time to config/install. > > I thought that it may be a memory problem and increased > > the ram to 700+ however that made no difference at all. > > Someone suggested that my psu may be faulty but I have > > installed puppy linux in two or three times without a > > problem. Knoppix live works just fine > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards John > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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