July 2006 - wlug - list.wlug.org.nz

device order
by zcat 15 Aug '06

15 Aug '06

I ran into a very frustrating problem yesterday, hopefully someone in wlug knows the answer.. Verne has 4 sound devices; onboard sound, two PCI cards, and a USB transmitter. When I first set up breezy I had them loading as /dev/dsp onboard /dev/dsp1 first PCI /dev/dsp2 second PCI When he first got the USB transmitter it kept coming up as /dev/dsp1 and I managed to fix that by listing snd-intel8x0 and snd-ens1371 in /etc/modules, forcing the module for the onboard sound and two PCI cards to load earlier. Yesterday I upgraded to dapper and now all the sound devices come up in completely unpredictable order, not even the same on two consecutive boots. Even though the correct modules are still listed in /etc/modules. Is there a proper way to force devices to get detected in the order I want?

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Re: [wlug] device order
by Daniel Lawson 01 Aug '06

01 Aug '06

(brought back onlist) > Another example, USB again... > From http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7316 > >> A lot of devices are very difficult to distinguish from another, e.g. >> EPSON has the same USB ID's for a lot of printer models and you need to >> query the printer information with a vendor specific protocol >> > > Has the situation changed? Isnt the 'serial no.' you mention the same as the > USB ID discussed above? > Ok, so it doesn't work for all USB devices. Mice are probably the same. Anything with a filesystem or a unique serial, or MAC address, etc, however is fine. So, ok, multiple identical printers are probably a problem. At this point you might have to resort to "get different printers", or "leave them plugged into the same USB port, perhaps on an external HUB", or "buy an external print server that does ethernet -> USB. In terms of sound cards[1], you could use the PCI ID to define the order in which sound cards are brought up. This doesn't change - or it shouldn't change, unless you have faulty/crazy hardware - unless you shift the physical slot the device is plugged into. [1] or anything, even including USB devices as long as you are prepared to put them on the same port every time. Use the USB *bus* ID in that case, not the PCI ID, obviously :)

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31 Jul '06

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 31 Jul '06

31 Jul '06

Thank everyone Success! I started at the command line with the ip address but then I needed the subnet mask and the gateway so I took Ian's advise and used the gui. The plus is that I can switch back to DCHP really easily. Regards John > There are simpler ways to do this on Ubuntu. I can't > remember the exact menu location but on my Debian (which > is similar) it is Places, Administration, Networking and > you can do it all using the GUI with a minimum of fuss. > > -- > Ian McDonald > Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 > Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com > WAND Network Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Waikato > New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

I just googled and found: ifconfig eth0 <number provided> Is it as simple as just doing this?? If yes! do I need to undo this when I am finished?? John. > Hello all, > I am trying to update my system and went to an > internet cafe to use their network. However, they told me > I need to add their ip address (Which they gave to me on a > written note) I have never had to do this before and have > no idea how to do it in Ubuntu. > Will some one please help with this? > Regards John > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

I forgot to hit the reply all button.. Sorry:( ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Sorry, missed that bit... > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I need to: sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I need to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 Does this seem right to you?? John

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

Thank you I will try again tommorrow afternoon :) Regards John ----- Original Message Follows ----- > No. Leave the loopback interface alone. > > jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > >> Sorry, missed that bit...> > > > > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I > > need to: > > sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> > sudo ifconfig eth0 ... > > not ethconfig > > > > Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I > > need to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 > > Does this seem right to you?? > > John > > -- > Don Gould > www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - > www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: > ThinkDesignPrint > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] IP address entry
by Don Gould 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

No. Leave the loopback interface alone. jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote: > ----- Original Message Follows ----- >> Sorry, missed that bit...> > > I reread everything and I came to the conclusion that I need > to: > sudo ethconfig eth0 <number> sudo ifconfig eth0 ... not ethconfig > Then when I am finished I may have to check to see if I need > to reset my loopback number: 127.0.0.1 > Does this seem right to you?? > John -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: ThinkDesignPrint

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Web-based forums are here!
by Matthias Dallmeier 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group now has forums... http://forums.wlug.org.nz/ Everyone is welcome to register and start posting. Enjoy! -- Matthias

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IP address entry
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

Hello all, I am trying to update my system and went to an internet cafe to use their network. However, they told me I need to add their ip address (Which they gave to me on a written note) I have never had to do this before and have no idea how to do it in Ubuntu. Will some one please help with this? Regards John

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