November 2005 - wlug - list.wlug.org.nz

Cool process utility
by Craig Box 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hate having processes die because of kernel upgrades? The thought of losing your irssi scrollback just too much for you? http://cryopid.berlios.de/ Compile (I needed zlib1g-dev on my Ubuntu machine which had build-essentials installed) and then run 'freeze' to save processes to disk. You start the process again by executing the file that it saves - there is no 'thaw' utility It can't save a screen session, but you can save the processes inside them and rescreen. Craig

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Committee minutes
by Craig Box 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi everyone, Committee minutes are now up at http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2005-11-17. Our potential speaker for November is unavailable, so if anyone wants to present a topic or can suggest someone who might be able to present a meeting, please contact me off-list. Thanks Craig (P.S. earlybird registrations for linux.conf.au close today. Pay now if you're going.)

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NAT rule entry for DSL-302G modem
by Leslie Katz 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:40:06 +0000, Camster342 <camster342(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Although not exactly a solution to the problem you're having with the >CLI, did you remember to save & reboot or at least save after you'd >entered the NAT rule? Thats been my downfall _many_ a time. Many thanks! The D-Link document, "Opening Ports in DSL-302G Modem", makes no reference to doing a separate save, but implies that clicking on "submit" once you've added your rule equals saving. As a result of what you wrote, I went back and read the modem manual. It wasn't very clear either about what you do once you've created a NAT rule, but other parts of it led me to believe that, when I'd added my rule, I should go to "Administration", "Save & Reboot" and then press "Save". I did that and now my rule survives powering off. Thanks again.

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NAT rule entry for DSL-302G modem
by Leslie Katz 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

I'm sorry to bother people about this again. What I thought was a solution to an earlier problem turns out not to have been a permanent one. I wanted to open some ports in the above modem, but couldn't access the modem's internal web server using Firefox for Linux. I was, however, able to do so using Internet Explorer (on my dual-boot computer) and to create an appropriate NAT rule. Then, when I restarted the computer and booted into Linux, the rule I'd created in Windows persisted in Linux. However, when I later powered the computer (and modem) down and then powered up again, the rule I'd created was gone. Since the WLUG wiki page on the modem referred to using the CLI and to some material about doing so, I got that material and studied it. I then did the following: - booted into Windows; - (re)created my NAT rule via the Web interface; - restarted in Linux; - tested the rule, which worked; - opened the CLI and issued the command to get me the rule, which worked; - issued the command to delete the rule, which worked; - issued the command to (re)create the rule, which failed. Here's the output: ******************* Welcome to Titanium ******************* D-Link Corp., Software Release R2.01M.B34.AU(021206a/T93.3.44) Copyright (c) 2001-2002 by D-Link Corp. login: admin password: Login Successful $get nat rule entry ruleid 2 Rule Id : 2 Flavor : REDIRECTION Interface : ALL Protocol : ANY Local addr from : 10.1.1.3 Local addr to : 10.1.1.3 Dest addr from : 0.0.0.0 Dest addr to : 255.255.255.255 Global addr from : 0.0.0.0 Global addr to : 0.0.0.0 Dest port from : 5235 Dest port to : 5237 Local port : 0 $delete nat rule entry ruleid 2 Entry Deleted $create nat rule entry ruleid 2 rdr destportfrom 5235 destportto 5237 lcladdrfro m 10.1.1.3 lcladdrto 10.1.1.3 Error: Invalid command $ I then rebooted into Windows and tried to (re)create the rule via telnet. Again, I got the invalid command message. I then tried simply to create a rule which appeared in the material about using the CLI. It wouldn't work either. If anyone can give any suggestion about what I'm doing wrong, I'd be very grateful. Thanks. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

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Microsoft's marketing juggernaut
by Craig Box 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

How can we compete? I don't think I can ever advocate development on Linux again. http://www.microsoft.com/korea/events/ready2005/vs_song.asp Craig

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Fwd: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au 2006: REMINDER: Early bird registrations
by Ian McDonald 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lca-announce-admin(a)lists.linux.org.au <lca-announce-admin(a)lists.linux.org.au> Date: Nov 15, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [lca-announce] linux.conf.au 2006: REMINDER: Early bird registrations To: lca-announce(a)lists.linux.org.au 2006 - Dunedin, NZ! linux.conf.au is the annual Australian Linux technical conference, and is one of the largest gatherings of users and developers of Free and Open Source Software in the Southern Hemisphere. It is an opportunity for developers and groups to present their ideas amongst peers, and for the Free Software and Open Source communities to gather in general. Summary: Reminder: Early bird registrations close in 3 days! The 2006 conference is being held in Dunedin, New Zealand, at The University of Otago[1]. More information can be found on the conference website: http://lca2006.linux.org.au/ Early bird registrations for linux.conf.au 2006 close in 3 days! Hi folks, Just a quick reminder that early bird registrations for linux.conf.au 2006 close in just over three days, at midnight on Friday the 18th of November. Please be aware that this date and time is in NZDT, which is currently equivalent to UTC +1300. So, if you're keen to join us in January in Dunedin and wish to claim the early bird pricings on a Professional or Hobbyist registration, please head on over and register at: http://lca2006.linux.org.au/register/register.php If you've already registered, a reminder that to claim the early bird discount, your registration needs to be paid in full before midnight on Friday. See you in January! Please feel free to forward this announcement to your local LUG, or any other person or group that would be interested! [1]: http://www.otago.ac.nz/ Regards, Mike Beattie, linux.conf.au 2006 Organisers _______________________________________________ lca-announce mailing list lca-announce(a)lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lca-announce -- Ian McDonald http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 WAND Network Research Group University of Waikato New Zealand

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WLUG Committee Meeting To have something added to the agenda for this meeting, please email secretary @ wlug.org.nz. Provisional agenda: # Minutes from previous meeting # Matters arising # Correspondence # Treasurers report # General business

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Installing Skype on Ubuntu [Rant]
by Mathew Carley 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

It seems to be to have more "stuff" with it: which may or may not be a good thing, depending on your opinion. Apps and Eye candy are also a bit helpful in the choice: not just for me, either. I will put it this way... with the exception of MPlayer (matter of preference for media players) and programs like Skype, there is very little else that needs to be installed on a brand-spanking new install of SuSE, and most of the dependancies for these programs (except maybe the Win32 codecs for MPlayer) are already included and configured with the System. As I said, I still like Ubuntu, and am now considering running Ubuntu on my laptop (lightweight distro, at least, until I put some more RAM in it) and SuSE on my desktop (When I build it). It is possible that I am biased because I am more familiar with SuSE than I am with Ubuntu - it is the distro that rescued me from the "Red Hat = Linux" mindset (RH was what I had been using for most of my "Linux life"). It is also the distro of choice when I install Linux for other people (if not only for the eye candy. In saying that, though, I don't see why I can't resurrect some old hardware with the aide of Ubuntu, given that SuSE can be a heavyweight on old systems, if the people whom I am moving off of Windows don't want to buy a Mac Mini or something. So yeah: After using Breezy for a couple of days, I do now like Ubuntu as a distro; despite my being a sucker for eye-candy, though if I end up using it more than a week (quite likely at this point), then I'll start customizing Gnome with some themes and custom icons and all that. Consider my rant over. I now like Ubuntu more than I did the other day. But I still like KDE as well - I'm sure I can add it on somehow (I use both UIs... they both have certain features I like about each one, so...) When I have time... Mathew > > However, all is well now (until my hard drive and more RAM arrives), > > at which time it will be a tougher decision than originally anticipated > to > > choose between SuSE 10 and Breezy. It hasn't taken long (or much) > > to like Ubuntu so far, though as a "full featured" distro, I will probably > > > end up with SuSE. > > I'm interested to learn in which way Ubuntu is not "full featured"? > > Craig -- Regards Mathew Carley HostENZ Data Services A Carley Network Media Ltd. (NZ) Company http://www.hostenz.co.nz mathewc(a)hostenz.co.nz Office Phone (Helsinki): +358 9 2316 3712 Cell Phone (Finland): +358 4 0816 2816 Cell Phone (France): +33 6 1811 9475 Skype: mgcarley The information contained in this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential to Carley Network Media Ltd and it's subsidiaries, and may contain proprietary information or may be legally privileged. See http://www.cnmltd.net/email/ for our standard email disclaimer. Errors & Omissions Excepted. Prices in this email do not include GST unless stated otherwise.

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Linux for Grandmother
by Mathew Carley 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Going on from my previous post, would you all mind if I sent my grandmother to the next installfest and/or meeting? I threw together a SuSE 9.1 Personal system on an old box just before I left NZ, and they took the box home from my parents place the other day. What they seem to use the computer for is: Internet Email Office (Writer, Calc, Impress mostly). Is there a publisher equivalent that you would recommend? I hate publisher myself, but... yeah. Not a whole lot else. I don't mind whether you leave SuSE on the box or if you "upgrade" it to Breezy, I am happy to support either from the other side of the globe. It needs to have **A VNC server installed and configured for me to be able to do this as well, so... yeah. **A nice, easy, clean, pretty interface. **I don't think it would have to be too similar to Windows 98. Box specification is (as I said, old) Cel366/128/6GB/CD, Modem, Sound Blaster 16... Used to be in mums shop before she upgraded. I'm sure she wouldn't mind paying for some tuition as well, but I have made the suggestion that she might go there. -- Regards Mathew Carley HostENZ Data Services A Carley Network Media Ltd. (NZ) Company http://www.hostenz.co.nz mathewc(a)hostenz.co.nz Office Phone (Helsinki): +358 9 2316 3712 Cell Phone (Finland): +358 4 0816 2816 Cell Phone (France): +33 6 1811 9475 Skype: mgcarley The information contained in this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential to Carley Network Media Ltd and it's subsidiaries, and may contain proprietary information or may be legally privileged. See http://www.cnmltd.net/email/ for our standard email disclaimer. Errors & Omissions Excepted. Prices in this email do not include GST unless stated otherwise.

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Two new library books
by Craig Box 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hi everyone, Two new books arrived today, thanks to O'Reilly. Linux Desktop Pocket Guide: Advice for running five popular distributions (Fedora, Gentoo, Mandriva, SUSE and Ubuntu) on a desktop or laptop http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=47 Asterisk: The Future of Telephony: Join the Open Source PBX Revolution http://library.wlug.org.nz/show.pl?id=48 Please use either of the links above if you'd like to borrow either book. Regards, Craig

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