September 2003 - wlug - list.wlug.org.nz

2 hard drives
by Gene Smith 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi Guys. If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other? _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

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FW: Motherboards et al
by Lindsay Druett 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Hi All, Have any of you had and bad/good experiences with building a Linux Workstation using any of the following motherboards ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Garry Konings [mailto:Garry.Konings(a)nz.logical.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:41 > To: Lindsay Druett > Subject: RE: Motherboards et al > > > Thanks Lindsay > > I have been looking at some Intel P4 MoBO options:- > > Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 > Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 > Gigabyte GA-8INXP > Asus P4S8X > Asus P4C800 Deluxe, or P4C800-E Deluxe > Abit IC7, or IC7-G > Intel 865PERLL > AOpen AX4SPE > > Anybody you know used any of these for Linux before? Which distro? > > Cheers > > Garry >

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Testing
by Craig Mckenna 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Sorry to interrupt, just testing some changes to our mail server :) -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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Linux Kernel 2.6.0
by Daniel Lawson 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

The new linux kernel stable branch, 2.6.0, is nearly here. It is currently in the 2.6.0-test stage. I've been running a 2.6.0 test kernel on and off for a couple of weeks now, and thought I'd mention it on list to encourage those who feel up to it to try it out. Some new features that I've noticed: * Crypto API support, for encrypted filesystems and IPSec * (IPSec) * /sys filesystem - like the contents of /proc/sys * Much better ACPI support * STCP (Stream Control Transmission Protocol) * Improved networkin * IPv6, netfilter for IPv6 * netfilter for bridges? * ALSA sound drivers have been merged * ext2 / ext3 extended attribute and ACL support * (I think) better firewire / usb2 support * ATAPI cdwriting - no need for scsi emulation any more There's a whole lot more too, i'm sure -thats just what I can remember. It seems stable, although I have odd things happen every now and then (like, a segmentation fault when rmmod'ing a module - all subsequent module operations (lsmod, rmmod, modprobe) lock up. reboot needed. oops). Certainly, once the test kernels have finished and 2.6.0 is declared "stable", this should be a good kernel. On my gentoo box, the only thing I needed to upgrade was modutils. Your mileage may vary for other distros, so make sure to read the kernel changelog and update any packages required! I think some distros (RedHat ?) have binary kernel targets for 2.6.0 already Daniel

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Slackware 9.1
by S Swami 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

The latest version is now out. I'm thinking about subscribing to support my favourite linux distro: approx US$35 per release (includes postage) - 1 or 2 releases per year. If anyone wants to share in the subscription, please mail me offlist. Cheers, Sid Swami. (poor student)

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by Jodi Thomson 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

It's been a while since I've played with it but Peanut linux may do the job. Can be installed on an existing windows partition http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/ Jodi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Jodi W. Anderson, Mr (BA, A+, MCP) - Computer Systems Consultant Waikato University Library - Computing Operations Group Ph: +64 7 838 4323 email: jodi(a)waikato.ac.nz "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before." > -----Original Message----- > From: John R. McPherson [mailto:jrm21(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz] > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 1:10 p.m. > To: wlug > Subject: Re: [wlug] linux within windows > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 01:05:35PM +1200, David Nicholls wrote: > > Basically my problem is this: > > I have an academic who is running win2k. He also has just > purchased a > > scientific program that runs in linux. However he also > does not want > > to have to dual-boot or purchase anthing more. Thinking > along these > > lines > > > as far as both he and I could remember, mandrake allowed > you to create > > an image that you could load to from within windows and was doing a > > lot of marketing on this ability a while back. I haven't seen > > anything more about this on their site, so I don't know about this > > anymore. In the end I just need to know if it can be done > with any of > > the distros rather than a VM of some sort. > > Ah, academics eh? > > an early way to run linux was to run it from dos, using the > loadlin.exe program. However, that is pretty much equivalent > to dual booting. > > I would suggest that he runs the linux software remotely on > linux machine and use an X server for windows to access the > remote machine and view the result. > > The cygwin xfree86 port works very well. > > John >

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by David Nicholls 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Basically my problem is this: I have an academic who is running win2k. He also has just purchased a scientific program that runs in linux. However he also does not want to have to dual-boot or purchase anthing more. Thinking along these lines as far as both he and I could remember, mandrake allowed you to create an image that you could load to from within windows and was doing a lot of marketing on this ability a while back. I haven't seen anything more about this on their site, so I don't know about this anymore. In the end I just need to know if it can be done with any of the distros rather than a VM of some sort. Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: mglb1-forwarding Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 12:51 pm If you want a real virtual machine that allows you to install anything you might want to look at something like VMware. It's not free in any sense of the word but it works really well and allows you to play with a lot more than just linux. You can download a 30 day evaluation copy from their website.

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RE: [wlug] linux within windows
by David Nicholls 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

I have a question as a follow on from my mandrake one... Is there any distro that can be installed into an image within windows and then run like an emulator I guess. Ie run it and it opens up the image of a linux drive from within windows, you have your filesystem/partitions created etc. all within the image. Hope this makes sense. Cheers... david

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yoper ok
by Gene Smith 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi guys, I ran the yoper installation disk last night.... it's not to bad. But I can't seem to get the sound card to work .... it says its not configured. how do you configure it? (sound blaster live 5.1). and cd won't mount with an audio cd in it. thanks Gene _________________________________________________________________ Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

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graphics speed
by Glenn Ramsey 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi, I have a scientific visualisation app (cgui from http://www.bioeng.auckland.ac.nz ) that I have tested on 3 different machines and I have found that the graphics performance is opposite to what I expected. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers about how to figure out what might be causing the slowness on 2 of the machines. The machines are: 1. Compaq Presario 2100 series laptop. Athlon XP 2400, 512Mb Ram, Ati Radeon IGP320M. The accelerated features of this graphics chipset are not supported by XFree86. 2. PC with AMD Duron 900 + Matrox GA400 graphics adpator. 3. PC with Athon XP 1800, running Xvnc 3.3.6. Viewed across 100 Mbit ethernet from vncviewer on Windows. The thing that is confusing me is that when viewing a shaded bezier surface the best performance is on machine 3 - using vnc. I would have expected machine 1 at least to have equivalent performance to machine 3 given that the rendering is being done in software in both cases. But it is noticably a lot slower on machine 1, any ideas why that might be? I haven't done any framerate measurements, the "test" I used was to load a human torso model and rotate it with the mouse. Machine 2 was the slowest at this task, so apparently there is no hardware support for shading in the mga driver or the driver doesn't like my hardware. Machine 2 does however run glxgears the fastest. Any suggestions appreciated. g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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